Our parents might be a little bit, our college teachers, et cetera, mentors, but generally we're on our own and it's a very, very difficult process.

我們的父母、大學老師等可能會給我們一點指導，但一般來說，我們只能靠自己，這是一個非常非常艱難的過程。

You wake up in the morning and you don't really know what you can do.

早上醒來，你真的不知道自己能做什麼。

You could choose 12 different paths.

你可以選擇 12 條不同的路徑。

It can be very confusing and very overwhelming.

這可能會讓人非常困惑，不知所措。

When you find that sense of purpose, when you find what I call your life's task, everything has a direction.

當你找到目標感，當你找到我所說的人生任務時，一切都有了方向。

Everything has a purpose.

萬事皆有目的。

Your energy is concentrated.

你的能量是集中的。

It's not like you're just going down a single narrow pathway.

你走的又不是一條狹窄的小路。

It's not like life becomes boring and it's just about discipline and solving problems.

這並不是說生活變得枯燥乏味，只是為了遵守紀律和解決問題。

It's actually the most exciting thing that can ever happen to you because you never have that lost feeling.

事實上，這是最令人興奮的事情，因為你永遠不會有那種失落感。

You wake up in the morning and you go, yeah, this is what I need to accomplish.

早上醒來，你會想，是啊，這就是我需要完成的任務。

People come at you with all kinds of distractions and boring and irritating things.

人們會帶著各種干擾、無聊和煩人的事情來找你。

You're able to cut it out.

你可以把它剪掉。

It's just the most marvelous piece of internal radar that you can have.

這是你能擁有的最神奇的內部雷達。

I genuinely wish that everybody can find that kind of internal radar.

我真心希望每個人都能找到這樣的內心雷達。

It's not easy and I understand that.

這並不容易，我理解。

There's no instant formula because we're all about instant formulas.

沒有立竿見影的公式，因為我們都在追求立竿見影的公式。

It's difficult and I want you to know that so it's not like Robert can give me the answer in three minutes.

這很難，我想讓你知道這一點，所以羅伯特不可能在三分鐘內給我答案。

No, I can't, but there's a process involved.

不，我不能，但這需要一個過程。

It's not a mystery.

這並不神祕。

You can follow a very singular process and the idea is you're talking about childhood.

你可以遵循一個非常單一的過程，而你的想法就是談論童年。

The way I like to frame it is when you were born, you are a phenomenon.

我喜歡的說法是，當你出生時，你就是一種現象。

You are unique.

你是獨一無二的。

Your DNA has never occurred in the history of the universe going back billions of years.

在數十億年前的宇宙歷史中，你的 DNA 從未出現過。

It will never occur in the future.

未來永遠不會發生。

Your life experience with your parents and everything that you experienced in your early years going on up is unique.

你與父母的生活經歷以及你早年經歷的一切，都是獨一無二的。

It's yours.

是你的了

You're one of a kind.

你是獨一無二的

That is your source of power.

這就是你的力量之源。

To waste that is just the worst thing you can do in your life.

浪費是一生中最糟糕的事情。

What the power is, is finding that uniqueness.

找到這種獨特性才是力量所在。

What makes you you and how you can mine that and how you can go deep into it and use that to create a career path.

是什麼造就了你，你如何才能挖掘出這一點，如何才能深入其中，並利用這一點開創出一條職業道路。

Right?

對不對？

And so I tell people when you're a child, when you're four or five or even younger, you have what the great psychologist Maslow called impulse voices, the little voices in your head that say, I love this.

所以我告訴人們，當你還是個孩子時，當你四五歲甚至更小的時候，你就會有偉大的心理學家馬斯洛所說的 "衝動的聲音"。

I hate that.

我討厭這樣。

I like this food.

我喜歡這種食物。

I don't like when mommy moves this way.

我不喜歡媽媽這樣動。

I like when daddy comes from here.

我喜歡爸爸從這裡來

You're very cued into who you are and what you like and what you don't like.

你很清楚自己是誰，喜歡什麼，不喜歡什麼。

And these voices kind of direct you in certain ways, right?

這些聲音會以某種方式引導你，對嗎？

And when you're very young, they direct you towards intellectual mental pursuits as well.

在你很小的時候，他們也會引導你進行智力方面的精神追求。

And there's a book I recommend for everybody.

我向大家推薦一本書。

It's Howard Gardner's Five Frames of Mind.

這是霍華德-加德納的 "五種思維框架"。

It's helped me immensely.

這對我幫助很大。

The idea is he talks about five forms of intelligence.

意思是他談到了五種形式的智能。

Our problem is we think of intelligence as mostly intellectual, but there are many forms of intelligence.

我們的問題是，我們認為智力主要是智力，但智力有多種形式。

There's the intelligence that has to do with words.

還有與文字有關的智慧。

There's abstract intelligence that has to do with patterns and mathematics.

抽象智能與模式和數學有關。

There's kinetic intelligence that has to do with the body.

還有與身體有關的動力智能。

There's social intelligence.

還有社交智慧。

He has five of them.

他有五個。

And the idea is your brain naturally veers towards one of them.

你的大腦會自然而然地偏向其中之一。

It can veer towards two of them.

它可能偏向於其中的兩種。

That happens.

這種情況時有發生。

But generally one of them kind of dominates, right?

但一般來說，其中一個會佔主導地位，對嗎？

And it's like a grain in your brain that's going in a certain direction.

它就像你大腦中的穀粒，朝著某個方向前進。

You want to go with that grain because that's where your power will lie.

你要順其自然，因為這才是你的力量所在。

So when you're young, if you go back and think about when you were four or five, you can maybe get a picture of some kind of direction or voice inside of you that was impelling you towards this.

所以，當你年輕的時候，如果你回想一下自己四五歲的時候，你也許能想象出你內心的某種方向或聲音，它在驅使你朝著這個方向前進。

I know for me, it was words.

我知道，對我來說，是文字。

I can remember when I was six years old, I was just obsessed with words, just the letters in words, almost like in this almost slightly schizophrenic way.

我還記得六歲的時候，我對單詞非常著迷，只是對單詞中的字母著迷，幾乎有點精神分裂的感覺。

I would spell words backwards.

我會倒著拼寫單詞。

I would take them apart.

我會把它們拆開。

I would do anagrams.

我會做字母組合。

I love palindromes, right?

我喜歡複韻母，對嗎？

So I had a thing about words and language.

是以，我對文字和語言情有獨鍾。

It's very primal.

這是非常原始的。

Some people, you know, Albert Einstein, when he was four years old, his father gave him a birthday gift of a compass.

有些人，你知道的，阿爾伯特-愛因斯坦，在他四歲的時候，他的父親送給他一個生日禮物--指南針。

And he was just mesmerized by this compass.

他被這個指南針迷住了。

The idea that there are invisible forces out there in the cosmos moving this needle.

宇宙中存在著無形的力量在推動這根指針。

And he's obsessed with the idea of invisible forces.

他痴迷於無形力量的概念。

Steve Jobs, when he was like seven or eight or maybe younger in Burlingame, California, his father, they passed by a store with technological devices in the window.

史蒂夫-喬布斯七八歲時，也許更小，在加利福尼亞州伯林根，他的父親和他路過一家櫥窗裡擺放著科技設備的商店。

And he was just hypnotized by the design of those devices and the glass tubes and everything.

他被這些設備的設計、玻璃管和一切催眠了。

So he wanted to go in that direction.

是以，他想朝這個方向發展。

You know, Tiger Woods saw his father hitting golf balls in the garage, and he was just like screaming with joy.

泰格-伍茲看到父親在車庫裡打高爾夫球，高興得大叫起來。

He had to do that, right?

他必須這麼做，對嗎？

You know, I could give you a million different examples of this.

我可以舉出無數個這樣的例子。

Of course, these are people who are famous, obviously.

當然，這些人顯然都是名人。

We can go back and find that.

我們可以回去找找看。

It's easier.

這更簡單。

But what happens to you, and please cut me off if I'm going on too long.

如果我說得太長，請打斷我。

No, please continue.

不，請繼續。

Please.

請。

What happens to you is you're seven, now you're getting older, and you're starting to not hear that voice anymore.

你七歲，現在你長大了，你開始聽不到那個聲音了。

You're hearing the voice of your teachers telling you, you're not good at this field.

你聽到老師的聲音告訴你，你不擅長這個領域。

You need to get better at math.

你需要提高數學成績。

You know, you shouldn't be interested in these sports or anything.

你知道，你不應該對這些運動或任何東西感興趣。

You should be going this way.

你應該往這邊走

Your parents are starting to tell you this is the career they want for you, or the direction they want you to go in, right?

你的父母開始告訴你，這就是他們希望你從事的職業，或者他們希望你走的方向，對嗎？

You start hearing that more than your own voice, and as you get older, it gets worse and worse and worse.

你開始聽得比自己的聲音還多，隨著年齡的增長，情況越來越糟。

Then when you're a teenager, it's all about what other people are doing, your peers, what's cool, what's not cool, you know?

到了青少年時期，你就會關注其他人在做什麼，你的同齡人在做什麼，什麼是酷的，什麼是不酷的，你知道嗎？

And that kind of is more...

這就更...

So all of this noise enters your brain, and you can't hear that anymore.

於是，所有這些噪音都進入了你的大腦，你再也聽不到了。

You don't know who you are.

你不知道自己是誰

And so you go to college, you kind of maybe choose a major that seems practical that your parents want you to go into.

上大學後，你可能會選擇一個父母希望你選擇的、看起來實用的專業。

Maybe you kind of wander around, you're not sure, and then you enter the work world without that inner radar that I'm talking about, and brother, you're lost, right?

也許你有點四處遊蕩，你不確定，然後你進入工作世界，沒有我所說的內在雷達，兄弟，你迷失了，對嗎？

Where should I go?

我應該去哪裡？

Well, I need to make money, right?

我需要賺錢，對吧？

And so you make a choice based on the need to make a lot of money.

於是，你根據賺大錢的需要做出了選擇。

Not everyone, but some people do that.

不是每個人都這樣，但有些人就是這樣。

And I understand that need, we all need to make a living, but that can set you off on a very bad path because you're not connected emotionally.

我理解這種需要，我們都需要謀生，但這會讓你走上一條非常糟糕的道路，因為你在情感上沒有聯繫。

The thing is when you figure out that primal inclination, that grain that's inside of you, then you have the energy to be disciplined, to go through boring tasks, to learn.

問題是，當你發現自己內心深處的原始傾向和穀物時，你就會有精力去嚴於律己，去完成枯燥的任務，去學習。

You learn at a faster rate because you're emotionally engaged.

因為情感投入，所以學習速度更快。

When you're emotionally engaged in a subject, the brain learns twice, three times, four times as fast as when you're not.

當你對某一主題投入情感時，大腦的學習速度是不投入情感時的兩倍、三倍、四倍。

I always give the example, in college I studied foreign languages, which was kind of a passion of mine.

我總是舉例說，大學時我學習外語，這是我的一大愛好。

For three or four years, I studied French and then I went to Paris and I couldn't speak a word.

我學了三四年法語，後來去了巴黎，卻一句話也不會說。

It was useless because it didn't teach me anything practical, right?

它沒有用，因為它沒有教給我任何實用的東西，不是嗎？

I was totally confused.

我完全糊塗了。

And then, but I was in Paris and I loved it and I wanted to live there, right?

然後，我去了巴黎，我喜歡那裡，我想住在那裡，對嗎？

And I had a girlfriend and I needed to speak French to her.

我有一個女朋友，我需要跟她說法語。

And I can tell you in one month, I learned more than those four years of university because I wanted to, because I was engaged, my emotions were there.

我可以告訴你，在一個月的時間裡，我學到了比大學四年還多的東西，因為我想這麼做，因為我參與其中，我的情感也在其中。

It was like I had to survive to learn French.

就好像我必須活下去才能學好法語。

So most of us, we don't have a need really to learn this subject.

是以，我們中的大多數人都沒有必要學習這門課程。

We're paying half attention.

我們只注意了一半。

But when you find that thing that really connects to you, you're paying deep attention.

但是，當你發現那件與你真正相通的事情時，你就在深度關注。

Your emotions are engaged.

你的情緒被調動起來了。

You're learning at a much faster rate, okay?

你學習的速度更快，好嗎？

And so the thing is, how do you find that when you're older?

那麼問題來了，當你老了，該如何找到這種感覺呢？

When you're 21, I give people a lot of help and it's usually not so difficult.

當你 21 歲的時候，我會給人們提供很多幫助，這通常並不難。

We can go through that process.

我們可以經歷這個過程。

It gets harder when you're 30 and you've been wandering around, but it's not impossible.

當你 30 歲時，四處漂泊的日子會變得更加艱難，但這並非不可能。

I didn't really start, find my exact path until I was 38, 39, to be honest.

老實說，我直到 38、39 歲才真正開始，找到了自己的確切道路。

So there's hope.

所以希望還是有的。

When you get 40 and you get 50, it gets more and more difficult, right?

當你到了 40 歲，再到 50 歲，難度會越來越大，對嗎？

And it's very sad if you wasted that seed of uniqueness that I'm talking about.

如果你浪費了我所說的獨一無二的種子，那將是非常可悲的。

And I tell people there are ways of going back and we go through a process like archeology.

我告訴人們有辦法回到過去，我們要經歷一個像考古一樣的過程。

We have to dig and dig and dig and find those bones from your childhood that indicated what you were meant to do.

我們必須挖啊挖啊挖，從你的童年中找到那些表明你註定要做什麼的骨頭。

But when you find your life's task, everything opens up.

但是，當你找到自己的人生任務時，一切都會豁然開朗。

It doesn't mean you figured out, okay, I've got to aim for this particular job when I'm 28.

這並不意味著你想明白了，好吧，我一定要在 28 歲時找到這份工作。

That's not how it works.

事情不是這樣的。

It gives you a sense of direction.

它給你一種方向感。

You can try different things.

你可以嘗試不同的方法。

You can experiment.

您可以進行試驗。

You can have fun when you're in your 20s.

20 多歲時，你可以盡情玩樂。

You're going to learn.

你將學會

You're going to learn skills.

你要學習技能。

But it gives you an overall framework instead of, oh, all of this confusion, this chaos, social media, the internet.

但它給了你一個整體框架，而不是，哦，所有這些混亂、混沌、社交媒體、互聯網。

I could go here, here, here.

我可以去這裡、這裡、這裡。

You're lost at sea.

你在海上迷失了方向

It gives you a very important sense of direction, a compass.

它給了你一個非常重要的方向感，一個指南針。

As you describe this, I have this image of, you know, you mentioned animals that presumably don't have a lot of flexibility in terms of the niches they can exist in.

在你的描述中，我有這樣的印象，你知道，你提到的動物在它們可以存在的壁龕方面可能沒有太多的靈活性。

But the way I imagine this process is that as a human, we're plopped into an environment.

但我對這一過程的想象是，作為人類，我們被扔進一個環境中。

And here I'm using an analogy where we don't really know if we are an aquatic animal, a amphibian, right?

我在這裡打個比方，我們並不知道自己是水生動物還是兩棲動物，對嗎？

Or an amphibian.

或者兩棲動物

Or an amphibian, for that matter.

或者兩棲動物。

And to make the wrong choice, to be an amphibian who's trying to fly, although I'm sure they're out there in the animal kingdom, it's not just a waste of time.

而做出錯誤的選擇，成為一隻試圖飛翔的兩棲動物，雖然我相信動物王國裡也有這樣的動物，但這不僅僅是浪費時間。

It's probably deadly.

這很可能是致命的。

And not to over-dramatize the failure of finding one's purpose, but I see it that way, whereas perhaps we could just say that the process of finding one's purpose is to realize, ah, you know, I'm an amphibian, I can go in and out of water, whereas a bunch of other creatures around me stop at the water's edge, right?

我並不是要過分誇大尋找目標的失敗，但我是這麼認為的，或許我們可以說，尋找目標的過程就是意識到，啊，你知道，我是兩棲動物，我可以在水裡進進出出，而我周圍的其他生物卻止步於水邊，對嗎？

And this is really cool.

這真的很酷。

And a bunch of these other things, like these flying things, they can't actually even go in the water.

還有其他一些東西，比如這些會飛的東西，它們其實根本不能下水。

Some of them might be on the surface or dive into it, but they can't do what I can do.

他們中的一些人可能會浮於表面或潛入其中，但他們做不到我能做到的。

So the process of self-discovery, it sounds like it's about restricting one's choices to a sort of wedge within the full landscape of options.

是以，自我發現的過程，聽起來就像是把一個人的選擇限制在一個完整的選擇範圍內。

And, you know, for me, I can certainly recall after reading Mastery, it helped me recall some early seed emotions that I experienced as a very distinct sensation in my body.

而且，你知道，對我來說，在讀了《掌握》這本書之後，我可以肯定地回憶起一些早期的種子情緒，這些情緒在我的身體裡是一種非常明顯的感覺。

Can you describe that?

你能描述一下嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

Well, without making it too specific to my unique tastes, you know, as a kid, I loved flora and fauna.

好吧，我不想說得太具體，我的口味很獨特，你知道，我小時候很喜歡動植物。

I loved learning about biology.

我喜歡學習生物學。

Sure.

當然。

I mean, no surprise there.

我的意思是，這並不奇怪。

But animals and how they move in particular, and fish, and going to a proper aquarium store for the first time for me, and going snorkeling for the first time was like, wow.

但是，動物和它們的活動方式，尤其是魚類，對我來說，第一次去正規的水族館，第一次浮潛，就像，哇。

And even as I describe it, it's almost like my body floats.

甚至在我描述的時候，我的身體就像漂浮在空中一樣。

I feel it in my left arm of all things.

我的左臂就有這種感覺。

And it feels like there's something to do about it.

而且感覺還能做些什麼。

It's not just that I'm in observation of things that delight me.

我不僅僅是在觀察令我欣喜的事物。

Right.

對

It's like there's something, there's an activation state created within me.

好像有什麼東西，在我體內產生了一種激活狀態。

Like I got to do something with this.

就像我得用這個做點什麼一樣。

And typically, it's tell everybody about it until they won't listen anymore.

典型的做法是告訴所有人，直到他們不再聽為止。

But oftentimes, it's to also draw those things, to think about them.

但很多時候，也是為了畫出這些東西，思考它們。

And I just delight in them.

我很喜歡它們。

It's a constant source of delight.

這讓我不斷感到欣喜。

And so seeds such as those, and there are a few other things in that landscape of flora and fauna, and learning about animals and biology, including the human animal, and then organizing information feels so satisfying to me.

是以，像這樣的種子，還有動植物景觀中的其他一些東西，學習動物和生物學，包括人類動物，然後整理資訊，讓我感到非常滿足。

It's like a drug.

這就像毒品一樣。

And so it just feels like this eternal spring of life.

是以，它給人的感覺就像是永恆的生命之泉。

And so for me, that's what it was.

是以，對我來說，這就是它。

And in 2015, when I was teaching that course, the course I loved, but I was feeling a little bit astray in my scientific career.

2015年，當我在教授那門課程時，我很喜歡這門課程，但我感覺自己的科學生涯有點誤入歧途。

And then I read Mastery.

然後我讀了《掌握》。

And I realized, yes, I love running a laboratory.

我意識到，是的，我喜歡經營實驗室。

I love teaching.

我熱愛教學。

But there's something else for me.

但對我來說，還有別的東西。

And it has to do not with a podcast.

這與播客無關。

I didn't even know what a podcast, I knew what a podcast was.

我甚至不知道播客是什麼，但我知道播客是什麼。

I was listening to podcasts at that time.

當時我正在聽播客。

But I wasn't on social media.

但我沒有上社交媒體。

I had no thoughts of having a podcast.

我沒想過要開播客。

But what I wanted was that feeling in its total number of forms.

但我想要的是這種感覺的全部形式。

That's the goal.

這就是我們的目標。

Get that feeling in as many forms as possible.