She's strong, she's smart, she's edgy, she's contained -- she's great at her job. She's

the person who is giving the technical data to the people that are out on the field. It's

awesome -- it's awesome to play this amazingly strong woman.

With Grim and Sam, there's a pretty detailed history, but talk to me about the relationship

specifically in Blacklist, how Sam and Grim get along, or maybe don't.

In a way, I feel like Grim is kind of a goody-goody. Sam, you know, doesn't necessarily play by

the same rules. And of course, that's where you're going to butt heads. Sam and Grim go

back, you know, over 10 years, so the history is - as you know - very convoluted. I think

that there is a definite mutual respect. I know that Sam is darn good at what he does.

I also know that there are logistical ways to do things that make sense. To me, I'm very

analytical: it's no, this plus this equals this. This is what we've been instructed to

do, so therefore we must do this. This is the highest risk, so no, we shouldn't do that,

we should do this. And Sam seems to operate more from an instinctual place.

You give the signal, my contact departs the safehouse, it'll be a clear run at Kobin.

It always looks easy on the screen, Grim. To be clear, Sam, we are talking about an

extraction -- not killing him. Grim has that real little-sister scrappiness

that -- no, I'm going to be heard, and this is what it is. Now that comes out in full

force a lot with Charlie. She doesn't think she needs him, she doesn't think that Fourth

Echelon needs him. Charlie operates very much from his heart -- he kind of isn't quite as

familiar with this kind of environment as the rest of the team, so there's that sort

of mothering thing going on. You know, it's: "Charlie, no -- get to work, go, stop thinking,

stop feeling, go and get your job done." With Briggs, there's just a basic mutual respect.

You know -- I've got his back, I know he's got my back.

Don't pat yourself on the back, Charlie -- we got lucky. He slapped together a mission based

on hunches. Right! That's why we won't waste time playing

defense. We have another option?

This is - I would imagine - pretty surreal of an experience. Talk to me about the theatrics

of being in a game of this extent. The first time I walked into the volume, I

was quite intimidated because these really big things are happening: high stakes, lives

at risk, people you care about are in danger and you're on this mission to sort of save

the world, and yet there's nothing here except you and your fellow actors. You become completely

unaware that there's 80 mo-cap cameras that are following every move that you make. Playing

Grim has been the highlight of my career.