The topic of today is should you buy the TD-17 drum module or the Roland TM-6 Pro, and also another option for under $1000 which I'll talk about at the end of the video.

今天的主題是你應該購買 TD-17 鼓模塊還是羅蘭 TM-6 Pro，以及另一個低於 1000 美元的選擇，我將在視頻的最後介紹。

Now the reason why I want to bring up this topic is because a while ago I got a message from someone saying, hey Justin I've got a conversion drum set, I've already lined up the mesh heads, the shells, the cymbals, everything's good to go in the shopping cart but I want to know, what drum module should I buy?

我之所以要提出這個話題，是因為不久前有人給我發了一條資訊："嘿，賈斯汀，我有一套改裝鼓，我已經準備好了網頭、鼓殼和鑔片，一切都在購物車裡，但我想知道，我應該買什麼鼓模塊？

I know I can get the TD-17 for $600, or I can spend an extra $200 and get a drum module that's labeled Pro, it has individual inputs, multiple outputs, it's got sounds from the TD-50, it has all kinds of different things that I want out of a drum module for only an extra $200.

我知道，我可以花 600 美元買到 TD-17，也可以多花 200 美元買到一個標有 Pro 的鼓模塊，它有獨立輸入、多路輸出、TD-50 的音效，還有各種我想要的鼓模塊，只需多花 200 美元。

Should I go for the TM-6 or should I stick with the TD-17?

我應該選擇 TM-6，還是堅持使用 TD-17？

So that's what today's video is all about.

這就是今天視頻的主題。

These two drum modules, it's not really even like a sound comparison, unfortunately I don't have footage of both of these, I got plenty of footage of the TD-17, but I only have photos of the TM-6 Pro, I got to play it but I don't have any legit audio of it.

這兩個鼓模塊的聲音根本沒法比較，遺憾的是我沒有這兩個鼓模塊的視頻，我有很多 TD-17 的視頻，但我只有 TM-6 Pro 的照片，我玩過它，但我沒有它的任何合法音頻。

But the sounds aren't even really the big distinction between both of these drum modules.

但這兩種鼓模塊的最大區別並不在於音效。

Really it's the way they're built from the ground up.

真的，這就是它們從頭開始建造的方式。

It's the inputs and outputs on it, it's the way the interface is designed, and the type of sounds that are inside of the drum module.

這是輸入和輸出的問題，是接口的設計方式問題，也是鼓模塊內部音效的類型問題。

So starting off with the TD-17, it comes with about 310 multilayered samples.

從 TD-17 開始，它配備了約 310 個多層採樣。

That's not a huge number of sounds inside of a drum module, and not all of them are amazing, but there's enough really good sounds in there for the price tag of this drum module.

對於一個鼓模塊來說，音色的數量並不算多，而且並非所有音色都令人驚歎，但對於這個鼓模塊的價格來說，已經有足夠多的好音色了。

Meanwhile the TM-6 Pro only has 268 multilayered samples, they have an additional 501 shot samples.

與此同時，TM-6 Pro 只有 268 個多層採樣點，而它們卻有額外的 501 個鏡頭採樣點。

And these sounds are basically mixed to work well with acoustic mic'd drums.

這些音效基本上都是為了與原聲麥克風鼓完美配合而混合的。

The whole point of the TM-6 Pro is that you're supposed to use it in a hybrid setup.

TM-6 Pro 的關鍵在於它可以在混合設置中使用。

So you have an acoustic drum set, and then maybe you want to plug in a snare trigger, a kick drum trigger, so you can layer different samples that you recorded yourself.

是以，你有一套原聲鼓，然後也許你想插入一個小軍鼓觸發器和一個踢鼓觸發器，這樣你就可以將自己錄製的不同採樣分層。

Or you can use one of the 500 one shot samples that are specifically mixed and designed to help beef up your kick drum, your snare.

或者，你也可以使用 500 個一次性採樣，這些採樣經過專門混音和設計，可幫助你增強踢鼓、小軍鼓的效果。

And then of course there's lots of other sounds, you can have like an 808 snare, if you want to have a mesh pad to the left of your acoustic set, maybe an electronic cowbell.

當然，還有很多其他音效，比如 808 小軍鼓，如果你想在原聲樂器的左側加一個網狀墊子，或許還可以加一個電子牛鈴。

That's what this drum module is designed to do, and that's why the sounds reflect that.

這就是這款鼓模塊的設計初衷，也是其音效能反映出這一點的原因。

Moving over to trigger inputs, the TD-17 definitely wins right here, because it has 10 trigger inputs, the ability to handle 10 pads.

在觸發輸入方面，TD-17 絕對勝出一籌，因為它有 10 個觸發輸入，能夠處理 10 個焊盤。

And you can split all those pads with cable splitters, so basically you can double the amount of pads that are listed right there.

你還可以用電纜分線器將所有這些墊片分開，所以基本上你可以將這裡列出的墊片數量增加一倍。

Meanwhile, the TM-6, it has individual inputs, which is a big win for the TM-6 Pro, but unfortunately you only get 6 inputs.

與此同時，TM-6 具有獨立的輸入接口，這對 TM-6 Pro 來說是一大優勢，但遺憾的是，你只能獲得 6 個輸入接口。

You can split those to, you know, 12 pads, but that's 12 one zone pads.

你可以把它們分割成 12 個墊子，但那是 12 個單區墊子。

If you have a regular electronic drum set, that's probably not going to be enough for you.

如果您有一套普通的電子鼓，那可能就不夠用了。

Another really big difference between the modules is the outputs.

模塊之間的另一大區別在於輸出。

So the TD-17 has bare bones, exactly what you need and nothing more.

是以，TD-17 只能滿足基本需求，僅此而已。

Right and left outputs, and then of course the headphone jack.

左右輸出，當然還有耳機插孔。

Meanwhile, the TM-6 Pro gives you 4 direct outs, 2 master outs, and then a headphone jack.

與此同時，TM-6 Pro 提供 4 個直接輸出、2 個主輸出和一個耳機插孔。

This is designed to be used in live environments, and you have to have direct outs when you're using something in a professional situation.

這是專為在現場環境中使用而設計的，在專業環境中使用時必須有直接輸出。

That's why the drum module has that.

這就是為什麼鼓模塊有這個功能。

Okay, so the next feature is Bluetooth.

好了，下一個功能是藍牙。

The TD-17 has it, and the TM-6 Pro does not.

TD-17 有，而 TM-6 Pro 沒有。

Now, you can get this feature just if you go buy a Bluetooth receiver, and these are like $30 or $20 on Amazon or Best Buy.

現在，你只需購買一個藍牙接收器就能獲得這一功能，在亞馬遜或百思買上，這些接收器的價格大約為 30 或 20 美元。

I got this one from Best Buy.

我從百思買買的這個。

I made a whole video about this and how to use it if you want to go check that out.

如果你想看的話，我製作了一整段視頻，介紹如何使用它。

Just go search it.

快去搜索吧。

It's like just a couple of videos ago.

就像幾段視頻前一樣。

So yeah, this isn't a really huge feature, but it's one of those nice to have things.

所以說，這並不是一個真正的大功能，但也是很好的功能之一。

And the Roland TD-17 even has a slot to put your phone on the top of the drum module.

羅蘭 TD-17 甚至還在鼓模塊的頂部設計了一個可以放置手機的插槽。

Now you have to be careful whenever you're buying a TD-17 drum module, because there are versions with and without Bluetooth.

現在，您在購買 TD-17 鼓模塊時一定要小心，因為它有帶藍牙和不帶藍牙兩種版本。

If you buy them like new on Sweetwater or something, it probably does come with Bluetooth.

如果你在 Sweetwater 或其他網站上買的是全新的，可能會帶有藍牙功能。

But if you buy a used TD-17 drum module, you don't know where it came from.

但如果你買了一個二手 TD-17 鼓模塊，你就不知道它是從哪裡來的了。

If it came from a TD-17KL drum set, they just like removed it and then upgraded their drum module, that module, that version of the module doesn't have Bluetooth.

如果它來自 TD-17KL 架子鼓，他們只是把它拆下來，然後升級了鼓模塊，那個模塊，那個版本的模塊就沒有藍牙功能。

There's no Bluetooth icon on the front faceplate.

正面面板上沒有藍牙圖標。

Meanwhile, if someone took it from like a TD-17KV or KVX, it will have Bluetooth.

與此同時，如果有人從 TD-17KV 或 KVX 等設備上拆下來，它就會有藍牙功能。

So just make sure you look at the photo and make sure it actually has the Bluetooth icon on the front plate.

是以，請務必查看照片，確保前板上確實有藍牙圖標。

All right, so now that we've talked about the specs and the guts and the internals of these drum modules, I want to talk about the button placement, how these things are laid out.

好了，既然我們已經討論了這些鼓模塊的規格、內部結構和內部構造，我想談談按鈕的位置，以及這些東西是如何佈局的。

Now this TM-6 Pro and the TD-17, they don't even look like each other at all.

現在，TM-6 Pro 和 TD-17 看起來一點也不像。

Even though they're at a similar price point, they look like they were made by separate companies.

儘管它們的價位相近，但看起來卻像是由不同的公司生產的。

And the only thing that really says this is a Roland drum module, aside from the logo, is the tiny little screen that Roland loves using on all of its drum modules for some inexplicable reason.

除了徽標之外，唯一能說明這是 Roland 鼓模塊的是它的小螢幕，Roland 出於某些莫名其妙的原因，喜歡在其所有鼓模塊上使用這個小螢幕。

On the TD-17, it's got more of a classic drum module layout, and they've really started to refine this.

在 TD-17 上，它採用了更經典的鼓模塊佈局，而且他們已經開始真正完善這一佈局。

They've made so many drum sets that they've made it easy to get around.

他們生產了這麼多套架子鼓，讓人很容易就能找到。

You don't have to go through a ton of different menus.

您不必翻閱大量不同的菜單。

There's a level button, a user sample button, tuning button, muffling button.

有一個電平按鈕、一個用戶採樣按鈕、調諧按鈕和消音按鈕。

I like the way this is laid out.

我喜歡這樣的佈局。

And of course, a little slot up top for your smartphone.

當然，頂部還有一個小插槽，可以放置智能手機。

Meanwhile, on the TM-6, it's sort of trying to draw your attention to certain features that both the drum modules have, but the TM-6 makes it more obvious.

與此同時，在 TM-6 上，它試圖讓你注意到兩種鼓模塊都具有的某些功能，但 TM-6 使其更加明顯。

They want you to use these.

他們希望你使用這些。

So for example, they have three multipurpose knobs up here, so you can change the pitch in real time.

例如，這裡有三個多功能旋鈕，可以實時改變音高。

You can change the decay, the volume, transient, attack, release, and the multi-effects control.

您可以更改衰減、音量、瞬態、攻擊、釋放和多重效果控制。

You can still do stuff like that on the TD-17, and of course, you can import samples onto both of them.

你仍然可以在 TD-17 上做這樣的事情，當然，你也可以將採樣導入這兩個設備。

I want to make that pretty clear in the video.

我想在視頻中清楚地說明這一點。

I don't want to make it sound like the TM-6 is the only one that can do that.

我不想說得好像只有 TM-6 才能做到這一點。

But you can do those features on the TD-17, but it's less obvious.

但在 TD-17 上也可以實現這些功能，只是不太明顯。

Over here, you have all these 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 buttons right here.

這裡有 1、2、3、4、5、6 按鈕。

That's so you can assign sounds to the individual ports without having to plug in a drum trigger.

這樣你就可以將聲音分配到各個端口，而無需插入鼓觸發器。

If you're on the bus, on the way to a gig, and you want to change out some sounds, it's very easy to do that without actually having to plug anything in.

如果你在公共汽車上，在去演出的路上，你想更換一些音色，這是很容易做到的，而不需要實際插入任何東西。

And the funny thing is, you can do the exact same thing over on the TD-17, but it's way less obvious.

有趣的是，你也可以在 TD-17 上做同樣的事情，但卻不那麼明顯。

There's a little button right here in these little rows of lit up letters and numbers that let you change the sounds independently without actually having to plug in some pads.

在這一排亮著的字母和數字中，有一個小按鈕可以讓你獨立改變音效，而無需真正插入墊子。

But again, they're trying to make it more obvious on the TM-6 Pro because of the use case.

但同樣，由於 TM-6 Pro 的使用情況，他們正試圖讓它更加明顯。

Okay, so that's all well and good, talking about the theory and everything, but let's take it back to some real world use.

好了，說了這麼多理論，一切都很好，但讓我們回到現實世界的使用中來。

For the regular, everyday electronic drummer who has an older drum set, maybe something with like a Roland TD-3 drum module, a TD-4 drum module, and you want to make an upgrade.

對於那些擁有老式架子鼓的普通電子鼓手來說，他們可能會使用 Roland TD-3 或 TD-4 鼓模塊，然後想要進行升級。

You don't want to spend 2 grand on a TD-50 or a Pearl Mimic Pro, but you want something that sounds a little bit nicer.

你不想花 2,000 美元買 TD-50 或 Pearl Mimic Pro，但你想要聽起來更好一點的東西。

The TD-17 is the perfect drum module for that.

TD-17 是實現這一目標的完美鼓模塊。

Or even if you're making a conversion drum set, sort of like building a PC, you're buying all the components you need, mesh heads, triggers, the rubber cymbals, and you need a drum module, the TD-17 is a good drum module for that.

甚至如果你要製作一套改裝鼓，就像製作個人電腦一樣，你要購買你需要的所有組件、網狀鼓頭、觸發器、橡膠鈸，你需要一個鼓模塊，TD-17 就是一個很好的鼓模塊。

The only real gripe that I have with it is that it has a cable snake instead of individual inputs.

我對它唯一的不滿是，它有一條電纜蛇，而不是單獨的輸入端。

But again, it's a $600 drum module.

但是，這又是一個價值 600 美元的鼓模塊。

So the TM-6 Pro is really good for hybrid drumming if you want to add electronic elements to acoustic drums, the TD-17 is great for everything else.

是以，如果想在原聲鼓中加入電子元素，TM-6 Pro 真的非常適合混合鼓，而 TD-17 則非常適合其他用途。

Now moving on, I do want to talk about one other drum module for around this price range, and that is the Alisa Strike.

接下來，我想說說另一款同價位的鼓組件，那就是 Alisa Strike。

This might surprise a couple of people that think that I don't like the Alisa Strike.

這可能會讓一些認為我不喜歡 Alisa Strike 的人感到驚訝。

My gripes are more with the Alisa Strike drum set because you have to mod some of the pads just to make sure that they don't break in a few months.

我對 Alisa Strike 整套架子鼓的不滿更多一些，因為你必須對一些鼓墊進行改裝，以確保它們不會在幾個月內就壞掉。

If you do the mods, the drum set's okay, I guess.

如果你做了改裝，這套鼓應該沒問題吧。

And I'm not going to go into all the reasons right now, but I've always been a fan of the Alisa Strike drum modules because they keep updating these darn things.

我現在不想多說原因，但我一直是 Alisa Strike 鼓模塊的粉絲，因為他們一直在更新這些該死的東西。

They keep adding more sounds, they've upgraded the user interface, it's got faders on it.

他們不斷增加音效，升級用戶界面，還在上面安裝了推子。

Like this drum module is a powerhouse for the price that it's selling at.

就像這款鼓模塊的售價一樣，它是一款功能強大的產品。

Now the tricky thing about buying an Alisa Strike drum module is that it's not officially sold separately by most websites.

現在，購買 Alisa Strike 鼓模塊的一個棘手問題是，大多數網站都沒有正式單獨出售它。

You can buy it separately from like drumtech.com, but what I feel like they're doing over there is just buying entire Alisa Strike drum sets and then selling all the parts separately.

你可以從 drumtech.com 等網站單獨購買，但我覺得他們的做法是購買整套 Alisa Strike 鼓，然後將所有部件分開銷售。

They're not actually getting individual drum modules from Alisa's and then selling them on their website.

實際上，他們並沒有從 Alisa's 獲得單獨的鼓模塊，然後在自己的網站上銷售。

Most people, especially in the United States, you're probably going to buy one of these things off of eBay, and the prices range, obviously, but I've seen a brand new Alisa Strike module for $750, and I've seen it used for like $615 on eBay with an SD card and the latest firmware already installed for you.

大多數人，尤其是美國人，可能會從 eBay 上購買這種東西，價格顯然不等，但我見過全新的 Alisa Strike 模塊售價 750 美元，也見過二手的，在 eBay 上售價 615 美元，還附帶 SD 卡和已為你安裝的最新固件。

So the prices on these things are very, very good, and if you have somewhere around $600 to $800, you should take a look at the TD-17 drum module, but you should also take a look at the Alisa Strike drum module because it's a very, very good drum module, and it has the best sounds in the class.

如果你有 600 到 800 美元左右的資金，你應該考慮一下 TD-17 鼓模塊，但你也應該考慮一下 Alisa Strike 鼓模塊，因為它是一款非常非常好的鼓模塊，擁有同類產品中最好的聲音。

Okay, so that's it for the comparison.

好了，對比就到此為止。

I hope you guys enjoyed it.

希望你們喜歡。

By the way, just wanted to mention that I did start selling official 65 Drums t-shirts on Teespring, so if you want to go check those out, this is a brand new shirt design that I just made.

順便提一下，我已經開始在 Teespring 上銷售 65 Drums 的官方 T 恤，如果你想去看看的話，這是我剛剛設計的全新襯衫。

I'm really happy with it, and I've also got some other different 65 Drums stuff over there.

我對它非常滿意，而且我在那裡還有其他一些不同的 65 Drums 產品。

Go check out the link below.

請查看下面的鏈接。

Anyway, have an amazing day.

總之，祝你有美好的一天。

Thank you guys so much for watching, supporting the channel, and I'll see you in a few.

非常感謝你們的收看和對頻道的支持，我們稍後再見。