We shop for partners like we shop for shit on Amazon.

我們尋找合作伙伴就像在亞馬遜上買東西一樣。

It's not like everybody's going to find somebody.

又不是每個人都能找到對象。

Is the design of the modern world making it more difficult, do you think, for us to find love?

您認為現代世界的設計是否讓我們更難找到愛情？

Well, simple answer is it's definitely added a layer of complication because now love is treated like shopping.

簡單地說，這無疑增加了一層複雜性，因為現在愛情就像購物一樣。

You know, we shop for partners like we shop for shit on Amazon.

要知道，我們在亞馬遜上選購合作伙伴就像選購大便一樣。

It's like you scroll through, you find one that looks good and you click like.

就像你滾動瀏覽，找到一個看起來不錯的，然後點擊 "喜歡"。

Good reviews.

好評。

And yeah, good reviews.

是的，好評如潮。

Look, it's definitely convenient and it's definitely made life a lot easier.

聽著，這確實很方便，也讓生活變得更輕鬆。

And you never have to deal with rejection because you don't know if they swiped left on you.

而且，你永遠不用擔心被拒絕，因為你不知道他們是否對你左顧右盼。

You just assume that they never saw your picture, right?

你只是假設他們從未見過你的照片，對嗎？

Like it doesn't actually say rejected, you know?

就像它實際上並沒有說被拒絕，你知道嗎？

I think the problem with it is grass is always greener because it's so easy, you know, to just go swiping and, you know, sometimes you treat it like Instagram.

我認為它的問題在於 "草總是更綠"，因為它太容易了，你知道，只是去刷刷，你知道，有時你會把它當成 Instagram。

I've done this where I've sat in my bed late at night.

我曾在深夜坐在床上這樣做。

Instead of looking at social media, I'm looking at a dating app and I'm swiping right.

與其說我在看社交媒體，不如說我在看交友軟件，我在向右滑動。

Like I'm clicking like on a post and then it says you're connected.

比如我點擊了某個帖子的 "贊"，然後它就會顯示你已連接。

I'm like, ah, damn it.

我想，啊，該死的。

Because I don't actually want to like go through the effort of like connecting.

因為我其實不想費力氣去聯繫。

I was just, I was just liking the post, you know?

我只是喜歡這個帖子，你知道嗎？

Scott Galloway talks about this.

斯科特-加洛韋談到了這一點。

I can't remember what the numbers are, but the point is, is there's a massive disparity of men that just don't ever connect.

我不記得數字是多少了，但問題是，男人們之間存在著巨大的差距，他們之間從來就沒有聯繫。

So I think, um, you know, the dating apps aren't necessarily there.

所以我覺得，約會軟件並不一定存在。

That's one thing, you know?

那是一回事，你知道嗎？

It's not like everybody's going to find somebody, but I do think that there's something wrong with shopping for people.

並不是每個人都能找到合適的人，但我確實認為，為人購物是有問題的。

Pre-dating apps, or let's not pre-dating apps, when there's no dating app being used, the way that we traditionally would meet somebody is you meet them at a party, at a dinner party, you meet them at the pub, you bump into them at a museum, you make small talk or you eye them from across the room and there's some attraction.

在使用約會軟件之前，或者說在沒有使用約會軟件之前，我們傳統上認識某人的方式是，在派對上認識，在晚宴上認識，在酒吧裡認識，在博物館裡偶遇，閒聊幾句，或者隔著房間打量對方，然後產生一些吸引力。

And then one of you musters up the courage to go up and start flirting and have a conversation.

然後，你們中的一個人鼓起勇氣走上前去，開始調情和交談。

And at some point you say, can I get your number?

然後你會說，能給我你的電話號碼嗎？

I'd love to continue this.

我很樂意繼續下去。

And they'll say yes or no.

他們會說是或不是。

And the flirting and the initial attraction has already happened.

而調情和最初的吸引已經發生。

And so the first date is actually the first date after the initial attraction and flirting.

是以，第一次約會實際上是在最初的吸引和調情之後的第一次約會。

Now with dating apps, the flirting, the initial attraction, the attempt to court someone is all happening simultaneously on the first date.

現在有了約會軟件，調情、最初的吸引、試圖追求某人都在第一次約會時同時發生。

And I think that there's nothing wrong with online, but I think that making an effort to do, you know, in real life things should be included, should be balanced.

我認為，在線交流沒有錯，但我認為，在現實生活中努力做到的事情也應該包括在內，應該保持平衡。

You know, it's like, like everything in the world, I'm a great believer in balance.

你知道，就像世界上的任何事物一樣，我非常相信平衡。

I'm not against it.

我不反對。

I'm talking about balance and it's out of balance.

我說的是平衡，而現在失去了平衡。