Sad?

悲傷？

No, no, no.

不，不，不

We've known each other 35 years.

我們相識 35 年了。

No, I'm sad because I should give you more.

不，我很難過，因為我應該給你更多。

I should give you more.

我應該給你更多。

No, that's good.

不，這很好。

I like that.

我喜歡這樣。

I like that.

我喜歡這樣。

Because we're very good friends, and I passed your house again maybe two days ago, screaming out Conan.

因為我們是很好的朋友 也許兩天前我又經過你家 大聲叫著柯南

You always yell, I tell people this.

你總是大喊大叫，我是這麼跟別人說的。

It's a thing people don't, no one in LA, everyone lives near each other, but no one, everyone lives behind a hedge.

在洛杉磯，每個人都住得很近，但沒有人，每個人都住在樹籬後面。

Yes.

是的。

And everyone's real cool about where everyone else lives.

每個人對別人的住處都很淡定。

And one of my favorite things is this man, when he's outside your house, he'll go, Cody!

我最喜歡的一件事就是這個人 當他在你家門口的時候 他會說 科迪

Yeah.

是啊

Cody!

科迪

I do, and my kids wait for me to say it now.

我是這麼說的，我的孩子們現在就等著我說呢。

They just go, all right, he's going to do his thing.

他們只是去，好吧，他要做他的事。

I, Conan!

我，柯南

Conan!

柯南

And then they go back to telling me something of their life.

然後，他們繼續向我講述他們的生活。

And then the times that you've come over, when you come over to my house, the first thing you say is, I got to go.

你來我家的時候，第一句話就是：我得走了。

No one wants me here.

沒有人希望我在這裡。

I'm like, no, people are very happy to see you.

我想，不會的，大家見到你都很高興。

Everyone's happy to see you.

大家都很高興見到你

The party was great.

派對很棒。

It was nice.

很不錯

The Christmas bash.

聖誕狂歡

We had a good time.

我們玩得很開心。

Perfecto.

完美。

Yeah.

是啊

I saw your son is a big boy now.

我看到你兒子已經長大了。

Yeah, he grew fast.

是的，他長得很快。

I can't believe it.

我簡直不敢相信。

It all happened.

一切都發生了。

My son grew over COVID.

我兒子的成長超過了 COVID。

Is that what happened?

是這樣嗎？

And he went, when COVID started, he was this little boy.

當 COVID 成立時，他還是個小男孩。

And then a year later, it was time for him to go back to school.

一年後，他該回學校了。

And I remembered him.

我想起了他。

I dropped him off for the first day back in in-person school.

我把他送回了第一天的學校。

And he got out of the car and stood up.

他下了車，站了起來。

And all the teachers were there.

所有的老師都在那裡。

And he kept going and going and going.

他不停地走，不停地走，不停地走。

And they were all like, what the hell?

他們都在想，這到底是怎麼回事？

Like he had been irradiated with plutonium.

他就像被鈈照射過一樣。

He just got super tall.

他剛剛長高了。

Yeah.

是啊

What a nice guy, though.

真是個好人。

He's nice.

他是個好人

Sweet as hell.

甜得要命

He did good.

他做得很好。

Doesn't love his old man.

不愛他老爸

That's for sure.

這是肯定的。

No, no.

不，不

He's running away.

他在逃跑

He's running away from that.

他在逃避。

Oh, man.

天啊

I wish you had been here for, because a good friend of yours was on this podcast, Jim Downey.

我希望你能來參加，因為你的一位好朋友吉姆-多尼（Jim Downey）也參加了這次播客。

Oh, man.

天啊

And he did one of the funniest openings ever.

他還做了有史以來最有趣的開場白之一。

He did this opening where he said, you know, hi, I'm Jim Downey.

他在開場時說，嗨，我是吉姆-多尼。

This is the former head writer on Saturday Night Live.

這位是《週六夜現場》的前首席編劇。

All our favorite.

都是我們的最愛

Everybody.

每個人都是

We put him as the number one.

我們把他列為頭號人物。

He's the number one.

他是頭號人物

He's the king.

他是國王

He's the king.

他是國王

He's the funniest, crazy genius writer.

他是最有趣、最瘋狂的天才作家。

And Jim Downey's opening was, hi, I'm Jim Downey.

吉姆-多尼的開場白是： 嗨，我是吉姆-多尼。

And I'm defiantly proud to be Conan O'Brien.

我為自己是柯南-奧布萊恩而感到自豪。

And then he wanted this long thing about, like, I know people talk about Conan and there's the rumors and stuff, but people say bad stuff about Jeffrey Epstein.

然後他說了一大堆 我知道人們都在談論柯南 有謠言什麼的 但人們都說傑弗裡-愛潑斯坦的壞話

And I swear to God, so many people come up to you on the street with this opening.

我對天發誓，在大街上，很多人都會帶著這個口號來找你。

I was in Ireland.

我當時在愛爾蘭。

And people were like, oh, that Jim Downey opening was, you know, that was.

人們會說，哦，吉姆-多尼的開場白，你知道，就是這樣。

And so he said, I mean, they say bad things about Jeffrey Epstein.

所以他說 我是說 他們說傑弗裡・愛潑斯坦的壞話

And I say, wait a minute.

我說，等一下。

Well, no, Jeffrey.

不，傑弗裡

And he said, and nothing bad happened to Jeff Epstein.

他說，傑夫-愛潑斯坦並沒有遭遇什麼不測。

And I said, no, no, no.

我說，不，不，不。

He went to prison and then he killed himself.

他進了監獄，然後自殺了。

And he goes, Jeff Epstein?

然後他說，傑夫-愛潑斯坦？

He said, no, not.

他說，不，不行。

He said, I'm talking about the New York financier.

他說，我說的是那個紐約金融家。

Jeff Epstein, man.

傑夫-愛潑斯坦

Anyway, you know, we can straighten this out.

總之，你知道，我們可以解決這個問題。

What's called Ghislaine?

什麼叫吉斯蘭？

And you're like, Jesus, this is so dark.

你會想，天哪，這太黑暗了。

Now, but you were, when I was on the show, I was young.

現在，但你是，當我在節目中，我還年輕。

Yeah, I was there when you came in.

是啊，你進來的時候我就在那兒。

We started.

我們開始了。

We were together.

我們在一起

But you were already established as being great.

但你已經被公認為是偉大的。

But when I got, I was young and excited.

但當我得到它時，我還年輕，還很興奮。

And when Downey gave you a joke for one of your skits, for me, I was like, oh my God,

當多尼給你的一個小品講笑話時，對我來說，我就像，天哪、

Downey gave me gold.

多尼給了我金子

Were you like that too with Downey?

你和唐尼在一起時也是這樣嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

When he gave you something?

他給你東西的時候？

If you could get his attention.

如果你能引起他的注意

Yes.

是的。

Because he liked to stay in his office with the door shut.

因為他喜歡關上門待在辦公室裡。

Yeah.

是啊

And we'd all wait for him.

我們都在等他

Yes.

是的。

And Schneider was the most aggressive.

而施耐德是最積極的。

Remember when Schneider came on and he would, he would figure out a way to get into Downey's office and then get help on one of his sketches.

還記得施耐德上場的時候，他會想辦法進入多尼的辦公室，然後在他的一個草圖上尋求幫助。

Oh, the copy, making copy.

哦，複製，複製。

Oh, the stingerino, you know?

哦，stingerino，你知道嗎？

And he would get, he would get some help from him and he always figured out a way to get in there.

他會得到他的幫助，他總能想出辦法進去。

I don't know if it was because he's small or what, but he like went in through the keyhole.

不知道是因為他個子小還是什麼原因，他好像是從鑰匙孔鑽進去的。

But we were always mad.

但我們總是很生氣。

Like, God damn it.

該死的

How did Schneider get in there?

施耐德是怎麼進去的？

How did he get in there?

他是怎麼進去的？

They got good.

他們變得很好。

And then the door would open and Downey would come out and I'd go, oh, hey, Jim.

然後門會打開，多尼走出來，我就會說，哦，嘿，吉姆。

So I had this idea.

於是我有了這個想法。

And he'd be like, walk with me, Coney.

他會說，和我一起走吧，科尼。

Walk with me.

與我同行

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的

And walk with me meant follow him to the bathroom.

和我一起走，就是跟著他去衛生間。

He'd use the urinal and I'd stand next to him.

他用小便池，我就站在他旁邊。

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊，是啊。

And I'd be like, yeah, so anyway, it's a, it's a caveman and he finds a time machine and uh-huh, uh-huh, you know, flush, washing the hands.

我就會說，是啊，總之，這是一個穴居人，他找到了時光機，然後沖水、洗手。

Right, right.

對，對

And anyway, and he'd be like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.

總之，他會說，嗯，嗯，嗯，嗯，嗯。

Yep.

是的。

Yep.

是的。

Maybe, maybe.

也許，也許

Then door shut.

然後關門。

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊，是啊。

Ha, caveman.

哈，穴居人。

Where are we ordering in from?

我們從哪裡訂購？

Yeah, no.

是啊，沒有。

But I think back to those, I think back on those days a lot with a lot of, a lot of fondness because.

但我回想起那些日子，我對它們充滿了眷戀。

Yeah.

是啊

You came in and it's all these years later and you've conquered the world 75 times over.

你來了，這麼多年過去了，你已經征服了世界 75 次。

What I remember is you were such, you were the most enthusiastic person.

我記得你就是這樣的人，你是最熱情的人。

Back then, yes.

那時，是的。

You were so enthusiastic and your attitude was, this is, we are, we're at Saturday Night

你是如此熱情，你的態度是：這是，我們是，我們在週六之夜

Live.

現場

Yeah.

是啊

This is amazing.

太神奇了

Let's get milkshakes.

我們去喝奶昔吧

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的

You loved milkshakes.

你喜歡奶昔

Yes, yes.

是的，是的。

And then they'd bring food in.

然後他們會把食物帶進來。

They'd pay for them.

他們會付錢的。

You couldn't believe it.

你簡直不敢相信。

Yeah.

是啊

It's like.

這就像

You're, everything was so wondrous to you.

對你來說，一切都如此奇妙。

You know what I mean?

你明白我的意思嗎？

Yes, yes.

是的，是的。

And now it's like, okay, the Netflix jet is here, whatever.

現在好了，Netflix 的飛機來了，管它呢。

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

這就像，是啊，是啊，是啊。

There's a time when you're young.

年輕的時候也有這樣的時候。

Yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊。

I was only that young once.

我只年輕過一次

And I had the same thing too, which is, wait a minute.

我也有同樣的想法，那就是，等等。

They'd be like, yo, and here's where the snacks are.

他們會說，喲，零食在這裡。

Well, how do I pay for them?

那麼，我該如何支付呢？

Oh, you don't pay for them.

哦，你不用付錢。

Oh, man.

天啊

You can have those Oreos.

你可以吃那些奧利奧

What are you talking about?

你在說什麼？

I can have Oreos.

我可以吃奧利奧

That's so funny.

太有趣了

I can have as many as I want and it's because you're 23.

我想要多少就有多少，那是因為你才 23 歲。

Yeah.

是啊

Or I don't know how old you were.

或者我不知道你當時多大。

I was 23, yeah.

我當時 23 歲

Were you 23 when you got on that show?

你上節目的時候23歲嗎？

I think I was 20.

我想那時我 20 歲。

I went out to LA when I was 22.

我 22 歲時去了洛杉磯。

I think I would have been 24 when I got started.

我想我開始工作的時候應該是 24 歲。

That was a good, that was just.

很好，就是這樣。

And also, that was the era of kind of nervous, meek Chris Rock.

此外，那是克里斯-洛克緊張、溫順的時代。

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的

Because he wasn't getting sketches on.

因為他沒有畫素描。

He'd come by and go like, what are you guys thinking about?

他會過來問你們在想什麼？

Man.

人。

And we'd be like, oh.

我們會想，哦

He was just, he wasn't that Chris Rock yet, you know?

他只是，他還不是那個克里斯-洛克，你知道嗎？

Yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊。

And he was.

他確實是。

He became Chris Rock after he left.

他離開後就變成了克里斯-洛克。

Yeah.

是啊

After he left the show.

在他離開節目之後

Then he became, I'd call him up and I'd say, what are you doing?

然後他就變成了，我會給他打電話，問他你在幹什麼？

He'd be like, I'm working on my standup.

他會說，我正在練習段子。

Working on my standup.

練習站立

And I was like, oh.

我當時想，哦

He's like, I think I'm going to do a special.

他說，我想我要做一個特別節目。

And man, when that special came out, that was, we were all like, oh man.

天啊，當那個特輯出來的時候，我們都覺得，天啊。

He just whooped everybody.

他把所有人都打敗了。

Yeah.

是啊

And then it was so funny because you, I have this memory of, it's like high school of when the day people first showed up.

然後，這很有趣，因為你，我有這樣的記憶，這就像高中的時候，當一天的人第一次出現。

So, I remember you showing up.

我記得你出現過

You were very excited and very confident and happy.

你非常興奮，非常自信，非常開心。

And just joy was just coming off of you, which was really fun to be around.

你身上洋溢著快樂，與你相處真的很有趣。

I think Spade was nervous.

我覺得斯派德很緊張。

Schneider was like, I'm going to figure this out.

施耐德說："我一定要想出辦法來。

Oh, Downey's the key.

哦，多尼是關鍵。

All right.

好的

I'll get it.

我來接

He stayed up late though.

不過他還是熬到了很晚。

I remember Schneider used to always say to David about, you know, we're here all Tuesday night.

我記得施耐德以前總是對戴維說，你知道，我們整個週二晚上都在這裡。

Try to stick, try to stick around, you know, in Spade.

試著堅持，試著堅持下去，你知道，在斯派德。

Around 11, you'd see Spade like, my neck hurts, man.

11點左右，你會看到斯派德說 "我脖子疼"。

I'm going home.

我要回家了

But we did stay late.

但我們確實呆得很晚。

We stayed late.

我們呆得很晚。

You always stayed late.

你總是待到很晚。

I would sleep there.

我會睡在那裡。

Yeah.

是啊

Yeah.

是啊

We had the best.

我們有最好的。

Those mornings when you'd wake up nuts and your stomach hurt from a whole night of being, no sleep, but it was, and then read through was around three o'clock or four o'clock or something.

那些清晨，當你被堅果喚醒，你的胃因一夜未眠而疼痛，但那是，然後通讀是在三四點鐘左右或什麼的。

You were so off.

你太離譜了

Your brain was spinning around, but you were so excited.

你的腦子轉得飛快，但你是如此興奮。

Because you'd been up.

因為你一直沒睡。

We'd stay up.

我們會繼續前進

We'd get in early on a Tuesday.

我們會在週二一大早就進去。

I'd come in Tuesday.

我週二會來

I'd stay up all Tuesday night into Wednesday.

我整個週二晚上到週三都沒睡。

You were there late Wednesday night until your sketch got picked.

週三深夜，你一直在那裡，直到你的素描被選中。

And then you have to stick around and say, okay, well, this is what the place, this is how I pictured it looking.

然後，你必須留下來，說，好吧，這就是這個地方，這就是我想象中的樣子。

This is what the costumes, you had to talk to everybody.

這就是服裝，你必須和每個人交談。

That's right.

這就對了。

And then you'd get home kind of late on Wednesday night and you hadn't slept in 40 something hours.

然後你在週三晚上很晚才回到家，你已經有 40 多個小時沒有睡覺了。

And like an idiot, when you're that young, you think this is cool.

像個白痴一樣，當你那麼年輕的時候，你會覺得這很酷。

This is really like, I'm like a fighter pilot.

這真的很像，我就像個戰鬥機飛行員。

That's true.

沒錯。

Because I was, I was so in, I was so wanted to be, I want to be the fastest gun.

因為我，我太投入了，我太想成為，我想成為最快的槍手。

I want to be on the edge.

我想站在邊緣

I didn't sleep for two days.

我兩天沒閤眼。

I mean, I did these, these two women who are my roommates in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, Lynette and Anya.

我的意思是，我做了這些，這兩個女人是我在布魯克林威廉斯堡的室友，Lynette 和 Anya。

And I'd come in and I'd almost like bragging, like I haven't slept in 52 hours.

我一進來就像在吹牛，好像我已經52個小時沒睡了。

And they'd be like, oh my, you should just go to bed.