At least 19 people have died.

至少有 19 人死亡。

The Czech Republic, Romania, Austria, and Poland have over 5,000 troops deployed to support people there.

捷克共和國、羅馬尼亞、奧地利和波蘭部署了 5000 多名軍人，為當地人民提供支持。

The mayor of Nyssa in southern Poland called on 40,000 residents to evacuate to higher ground.

波蘭南部尼薩市市長呼籲 4 萬居民撤離到地勢較高的地方。

Heavy downpours have caused a lot of damage across the huge area where Storm Boris, bringing vast amounts of rain and snow over the weekend, has hit.

上週末，暴風雪 "鮑里斯 "帶來了大量雨雪，暴雨給受災地區造成了巨大損失。

There have been a lot of dramatic rescues.

有很多戲劇性的營救。

This was the moment that one person was banks flooding the area.

就在這個時候，一個人被銀行淹沒了。

And Polish police shared this footage on social media of one of their helicopters involved in a rescue, winching residents to safety.

波蘭警方在社交媒體上分享了他們的一架直升機參與救援、將居民送往安全地帶的畫面。

The rescues, the response, the clear-up, the preparations for more flooding continue.

救援、救災、清理和應對更多洪災的準備工作仍在繼續。

The storms are now also reaching Italy, where warnings for heavy rain, strong winds, and floods have been issued for much of the country.Well, I'm joined by Dr. Jean-Luc Pescaroli, Associate Professor in Disaster Resilience at University College London.

現在，風暴也波及到了意大利，該國大部分地區都發布了暴雨、強風和洪水預警。現在與我連線的是倫敦大學學院抗災能力副教授讓-呂克-佩斯卡羅利博士。

Thank you for joining us.What do you attribute to the damage that we're seeing here in Europe and indeed across Myanmar?

您認為我們在歐洲乃至整個緬甸看到的破壞是什麼造成的？

Obviously, climate change behind it, but could more be done to protect people?Yeah, absolutely.

顯然，氣候變化是幕後推手，但是否可以採取更多措施來保護人們？

Thank you very much for your time.

非常感謝你抽出時間。

So, we see that there are different dimensions in how these events unfold.

是以，我們看到這些事件的發展有不同的層面。

One is the dimension of hazard, the other one is the dimension of vulnerability.So, in terms of hazard, we are seeing compared to before, a different level or a different pattern of recombination.

是以，在危害方面，與以前相比，我們看到了不同程度或不同模式的重組。

And we see that to some extent in both events.We see, for example, that the low probability high impact determinants that, for example, there were in the flooding in Europe, certain particular weather conditions, or the interdependencies between what is happening in Myanmar, like flood causing mudslides, are becoming the norm, are becoming something we need to consider on the hazard dimension.So, the way the climate is impacting the hazard is recombining them together.

例如，我們看到，歐洲洪災中的低概率高影響決定因素、某些特定的天氣條件，或者緬甸發生的洪水導致泥石流等事件之間的相互依存關係，正在成為常態，成為我們在災害層面需要考慮的問題。

So, what we perceive as low probability is becoming something different.

是以，我們所認為的低概率正在變得不同。

It's like giving us a new recombination, something that we need to consider in the planning process.On the other dimension, we see between these events in a completely different context, that there are some common vulnerabilities, or what we call in some of my projects, like Agile or is a multi-hazard, this common point of failure on which we need to prepare.So, this common vulnerability includes the vulnerability of critical infrastructure, that when it's disrupted, affects the recovery efforts and affects everything in society from the capacity later on of enterprises and the private sector to recover, and the capacity of dealing with effective evacuation and effective delivery.Sorry to interrupt.

在另一個層面上，我們在完全不同的背景下看到這些事件之間存在著一些共同的脆弱性，或者我們在我的一些項目中所說的，如敏捷或多重災害，這種共同的故障點是我們需要做好準備的。是以，這種共同的脆弱性包括關鍵基礎設施的脆弱性，當其受到破壞時，會影響到恢復工作，影響到社會的方方面面，包括企業和私營部門日後的恢復能力，以及有效疏散和有效交付的能力。

We're looking, obviously, at established places where people live and where people work.

顯然，我們正在研究人們居住和工作的固定場所。

So, what should governments and communities be doing now changing weather patterns that we're seeing all over the world?Thank you for this question.

那麼，政府和社區現在應該做些什麼來改變我們在世界各地看到的天氣模式呢？

Look, this is very critical.

聽著，這非常關鍵。

We need to move.

我們需要行動。

We were used to think of this as medium term.

我們習慣將其視為中期目標。

This is not medium term.

這不是中期計劃。

This is happening now.

這種情況正在發生。

So, we need to proceed in different ways, and some of that are actually starting to be activated.One, we need to understand how to integrate better technology within an organization.

是以，我們需要以不同的方式開展工作，其中一些方式實際上已經開始啟動。第一，我們需要了解如何在組織內部更好地整合技術。

So, not just the technical part, but how to have procedures over which follows action. For example, we have a warning how this is going to be part of business continuity and organizational resilience.

是以，不僅僅是技術部分，而是如何制定行動程序。例如，我們有一個警告，這將如何成為業務連續性和組織復原力的一部分。

For example, the United Nations Office for Disaster Risk Reduction is going to release soon some universal KPIs to support the private sector on this.Other elements that we need to consider is new tools that start from the very basic exercise, like tabletop exercise done by.

例如，聯合國減少災害風險辦公室不久將發佈一些通用的關鍵績效指標，以支持私營部門在這方面的工作。我們需要考慮的其他因素是從最基本的演練開始的新工具，如桌面演練。

So, consider also the role of creativity in foreseeing the events that are going to come.Okay.

是以，在預見即將發生的事件時，也要考慮創造力的作用。

Well, obviously, it is a very urgent problem.

顯然，這是一個非常緊迫的問題。

We are seeing it, as I said, in so many different parts of the world in different forms.

正如我所說的那樣，我們在世界上許多不同的地方以不同的形式看到了這一點。

But for now, Dr. Jean-Luc Pescaroli, thank you very much.Thanks to you for your time.Around the world and across the UK, this is The World Today on BBC News.

但現在，讓-呂克-佩斯卡洛里博士，非常感謝你。