Name: 萊昂納多-迪卡普里奧談《華爾街之狼》、喬納-希爾和鯊魚求生故事（完整訪談） (Leonardo DiCaprio on 'Wolf of Wall Street,' Jonah Hill, Shark Survival Story (Full Interview))
Uploaded: 2024-09-13T06:09:22.000Z
Duration: 11 min 55 s

All right, our first guest is one of the most famous actors in the world.

好了，我們的第一位嘉賓是世界上最著名的演員之一。

He's nominated for a Golden Globe for his brilliant performance in The Wolf of Wall Street.

他在《華爾街之狼》中的精彩表演獲得了金球獎提名。

First off, I gotta say, I saw some of you guys dancing there, and you guys were absolutely killing it.

首先，我得說，我看到你們中的一些人在那裡跳舞，你們跳得棒極了。

You, even if you haven't seen the movie, if you've seen the trailer, they show a little bit of him dancing.

即使你沒看過電影，如果你看過預告片，也會看到他在跳舞。

You actually, that little scene where you're dancing, you're a good dancer.

實際上，你跳舞的那場戲，你跳得很好。

I used to be a pop locker when I was in elementary school.

我上小學的時候曾經是一個流行鎖櫃。

It's actually one of the reasons why I didn't get an agent because I auditioned and I had, like, a punk rock haircut, and I dressed like a little, you know, street dancer, and they rejected me.

這其實也是我沒有找到經紀人的原因之一，因為我去試鏡的時候，留著朋克搖滾的髮型，穿得像個街頭舞者，結果他們拒絕了我。

I disagree with that because I met you, I think you were, like, 16 years old, and you had just done This Boy's Life, which was your first film, really.

我不同意這種說法，因為我認識你的時候，你好像才 16 歲，你剛剛拍完《男孩的生活》，那是你的第一部電影，真的。

Yes, we were at an after-party at, like, the Chinese Theater or something.

是的，我們當時在中國劇院之類的地方參加了一個餘興派對。

You told me, I just was listening to you talk, and I thought, you are so special and charming, and then you told me you just finished that film, and I had never seen you in anything, but I just knew you were gonna be somebody because you were so charming.

你告訴我，我只是在聽你說話，我想，你是如此特別和迷人，然後你告訴我，你剛剛完成了那部電影，我從來沒有見過你演任何東西，但我就是知道你會出人頭地，因為你是如此迷人。

Then you did What's Eating Gilbert Grape, and he was amazing in that.

然後你又拍了《吉爾伯特葡萄吃什麼》，他在裡面表現得非常出色。

我想我要為你的職業生涯負責。

Well, I've always been a big fan of yours.

Ever since I first met you, so thank you very much.

自從我第一次見到你，我就非常感謝你。

But really, you're, I mean, and this performance in this movie is, um...

但說真的，你，我是說，你在這部電影裡的表演，嗯...

I really want to say it's your best performance I've ever seen, and you've done some great movies, but in this movie, your performance is outstanding.

我真的很想說，這是我看過的你最好的表演，你也拍過一些很棒的電影，但在這部電影裡，你的表演非常出色。

And you're nominated for Gold Globes, well-deserved.

你還獲得了金球獎提名，實至名歸。

You were there, I hosted the Oscars in 2007, and you were there in the front row.

2007 年我主持奧斯卡頒獎典禮時，你就在前排。

I'm not, I'm hosting again this year, and I pray I'm looking out there and seeing you in the audience for this because you deserve to be there.

我沒有，今年我又是主持人，我祈禱我能在觀眾席上看到你們，因為你們理應到場。

Even if you don't get nominated, as a seat filler, I just want to see you there.

即使你沒有獲得提名，作為補位者，我也只想在現場看到你。

Literally, as soon as you leave the bathroom, somebody just scoots in and goes, excuse me, and they sit right down.

從字面上看，你一離開衛生間，就會有人溜進來，說 "對不起"，然後就坐下了。

All right, so tell everybody, this movie, you produced it as well, right?

好吧，告訴大家，這部電影也是你製作的，對嗎？

所以你花了很長時間才做出來。

I mean, Jordan Belfort looks at this as a cautionary tale.

喬丹-貝爾福特認為這是一個警世故事

He's sort of reflecting on his wild, debaucherous, hedonistic days on Wall Street where he was, you know, consumed by greed and excess.

他在反思自己在華爾街狂野、放蕩、享樂的日子，在那裡，他被貪婪和過剩所吞噬。

But he was so candid and honest about it and I really wanted to put this up on screen because in a lot of ways, it felt like a reflection of the time that we were living in.

但他對此非常坦率和誠實，我真的很想把它搬上銀幕，因為從很多方面來看，它都像是我們所處時代的寫照。

I mean, really anything goes in this film.

我的意思是，在這部電影裡，真的是什麼都可以做。

It is absolutely wild and, you know, Martin Scorsese and I decided to really pull no punches and really go for it.

這絕對是一部瘋狂的電影，你知道，馬丁-斯科塞斯和我決定不惜一切代價，全力以赴。

Yeah, it's, uh, but I can't believe that everything you see, and when you see this film, it's, first of all, it's so good and you and Jonah Hill are great together, but the scene when you take, uh, Kwaluud's and...

是的，這，呃，但我不能相信，你看到的一切， 當你看到這部電影，這是，首先，它是如此之好， 你和喬納-希爾是偉大的合作， 但當你的場景，呃，Kwaluud的和.

So when you take the Kwaluud's and you have to make your way down the steps to the car, it is genius how you do that.

是以，當你搭乘誇魯德的車時，你必須沿著臺階下到車上，這就是天才的做法。

Like, and how many takes did you have to do?

God, we worked on that whole sequence for a week.

天哪，我們為這整個序列工作了一個星期。

We want, uh, one of my favorite sequences in, uh, Goodfellas is where Ray Liotta's, like, spinning the, uh, mixing the marinara.

我們想，呃，《好傢伙》裡我最喜歡的片段之一，就是雷-利奧塔旋轉，呃，攪拌意大利麵的場景。

He's got the helicopters circling around him.

His nanny wants to take her hat, and the cops are coming after him.

他的保姆想拿走她的帽子，而警察正在追捕他。

We wanted to do kind of a film within a film, so we really worked really hard on this Kwaluud sequence where, essentially, Donnie has a botched money deal who's played by Jonah Hill, and to apologize for that, he gives me these incredibly powerful Kwaluud's.

我們想拍一部 "片中片"，所以我們非常努力地完成了這個 "Kwaluud "情節，在這個情節中，唐尼搞砸了一筆錢的交易，而唐尼的扮演者是喬納-希爾，為了表示歉意，他給了我這些非常有力的 "Kwaluud"。

I simultaneously find out that my house is being bugged by the FBI, and I got to get back home to him because he's on the phone with Switzerland, and it turns into this sort of insane sequence, and it was probably the most wild thing I've ever done in my entire life.

我同時發現我的房子被聯邦調查局竊聽了，我得回家找他，因為他正在和瑞士通電話，然後就變成了這種瘋狂的情節，這可能是我這輩子做過的最瘋狂的事情。

Jonah Hill and I looked at each other and said, how are we allowed to do this?

喬納-希爾和我面面相覷，說：我們怎麼能這樣做？

How are we allowed to get paid to do this for a living?

It was, and just to take that much time to try to crawl downstairs and to try to open a car door that opens up, and for your foot to get caught on that door, every single, I mean, that just was hilarious.

花那麼多時間爬下樓，打開一扇打開的車門，而你的腳卻被門夾住了，每一次都很滑稽。

I mean, I, you know, it all resulted in this insane sequence at the end where Jonah decides to stuff ham into his mouth as well, and he crashes into a plate glass table, and we were doing the CPR sequence, and, you know, the big challenge that day, we had to do 70 takes because they couldn't get this ham to stick on my face, and they had to put KY jelly, and there was literally a guy there behind this giant wheel with a plastic spoon just flicking ham on my face all day long as I'm doing this insane sequence, but it was almost, it was one of the most surreal things I've ever done in my entire career.

我的意思是，我，你知道， 這一切都導致了這個瘋狂的序列 在結束時，約拿決定 塞進他的嘴火腿， 他撞上一個平板玻璃表，他們不得不在我臉上塗上KY果凍 有個傢伙在這個巨大的輪子後面 拿著塑膠勺子整天在我臉上彈火腿 因為我正在拍這個瘋狂的鏡頭

You're both friends anyway, and there's a lot of improvisation in there, so that must have been, there must be takes where you just couldn't make it through.

無論如何，你們都是朋友，而且裡面有很多即興表演，所以一定會有你無法完成的鏡頭。

I mean, the whole film was like that, and he's one of the greatest improvisational actors I've ever gotten to work with.

我是說，整部電影都是這樣的，他是我合作過的最棒的即興演員之一。

He's a real genius and a good guy, and he really came to me and said, look, I know what this world is like.

他是個真正的天才，也是個好人，他真的來對我說，聽著，我知道這個世界是什麼樣的。

There's no one that should play this role except for me, and I immediately told Marty about that, and he hired him on the spot.

除了我之外，沒有人可以出演這個角色，我立刻把這個想法告訴了馬蒂，他當場就聘用了他。

His clothes, what he's wearing, his just teeth, everything.

他的衣服，他的穿著，他的牙齒，所有的一切。

I just, I really enjoyed the film, and I really enjoyed both of your performances, but I really think it's the best I've ever seen you be.

我真的很喜歡這部電影，也很喜歡你倆的表演，但我真的覺得這是我見過你表現最好的一次。

We'll take a break, and we'll talk about more with Leo after this.

我們先休息一下，之後再和利奧聊更多。

That looks like he was just coming off of Dallas Buyers Club, because he was still really thin.

這看起來像是他剛從 "達拉斯買傢俱樂部"（Dallas Buyers Club）裡出來，因為他還是很瘦。

而你，在過去的，怎麼，不是一年。

You did three, how many years did it take?

I did Gatsby, Django Unchained, and then went straight into this, yeah.

我拍了《蓋茨比》、《被解救的姜戈》，然後直接拍了這部電影，是的。