Thank you guys so much for having me.

非常感謝你們邀請我。

Yeah, thank you so much for-

是的，非常感謝

I'm sorry, I just interrupted you.

對不起，我剛剛打斷了你。

No, it's fine. I don't know how to host anyway.

不，沒關係。反正我也不會主持。

My first time doing it in English-

我第一次用英語表演

Dude, shut the fuck up, man.

老兄，閉上你的臭嘴

Stop lying to- Where's my camera? Stop lying to your fans, man.

別再騙我了，我的相機呢？別再騙你的粉絲了

Do you have to be like- Like, every time I say a statement, you're like, shut the fuck- That's bullshit. You're, like, opposing every single one of my takes on the world.

你非得每次我說了什麼 你就閉上你的臭嘴，胡說八道你反對我對這個世界的所有看法

I'm sorry. Go, go, go, go. Say-

對不起走，走，走，走說

I think I'm a lousy host. You have a problem with that?

我覺得我是一個糟糕的主人。你有意見嗎？

Yes, that's bullshit. You brought the Tonight Show in Taiwan, and that's, like, the ultimate host thing.

對，胡說八道你把 "今夜秀 "帶到了臺灣 這就是主持人的最高境界了

The first season is so cringe. I go back and watch it.

第一季太噁心了。我回頭再看。

Like, I want to make reaction videos to my old, like-

比如，我想給我以前的作品製作反應視頻，比如--

Oh, you didn't do that?

哦，不是你乾的？

No, I wanted, because it's so good.

不，我想要，因為它太好吃了。

The only thing I find funny is not the jokes.

我唯一覺得好笑的不是笑話。

The thing that's funny is how bad I was, and still, like, pull off this confidence.

有趣的是，我以前是多麼的糟糕，但現在卻依然自信滿滿。

What do you think you did bad on the thing?

你覺得你在那件事上做得不好嗎？

Okay, so the year I started doing the Night Night Show was kind of like my first to second year in stand-up.

好吧，我開始做 "夜夜秀 "的那一年，算是我從事單口相聲表演的第一年到第二年。

I had no skill set whatsoever.

我沒有任何技能。

Oh, it was your first, second year?

哦，那是你的第一年還是第二年？

Yeah.

是啊

Bro, how-

兄弟，怎麼

I do not have jokes. I can't go off the cuff. I can't do anything.

我沒有笑話。我不能脫口而出。我什麼都不會。

I just want to let people know that it's impossible already to do, like, to organize a gathering, a family, but to have a band, and to have a space, and have, like-

我只是想讓人們知道，組織一次聚會，組織一個家庭，但要有一個樂隊，要有一個空間，要有

But that's on me. That's the producer.

但那是我的責任那是製片人的責任

Oh, but you still have to, like, get the people to, you know what I mean, say the things.

哦，但你還是得，比如，讓人們，你知道我的意思，說那些話。

I don't know. I feel like it's hard to, like, I guess approve things.

我不知道我覺得這很難，就像，我想準許的事情。

I feel like it's still impossible to get the thing and hosting it.

我覺得還是不可能拿到這個東西並寄存它。

Our guest today needs, like, a proper introduction.

我們今天的嘉賓需要好好介紹一下。

So Jason Chaney is the most successful Taiwanese comedian on this planet.

傑森-切尼是這個星球上最成功的臺灣喜劇演員。

Yes, you are.

是的，就是你。

And we have been graced by his presence in Taiwan.

他的到來讓我們在臺灣倍感榮幸。

That's fucking bullshit, man.

真他媽扯淡

He's come back and did, like, five smashing shows.

他回來後做了五場精彩的演出。

And what?

然後呢？

Nobody smashed anything, man.

沒人砸東西

Can you let me finish?

能讓我說完嗎？

Okay, man.

好吧，夥計。

Last night, I said something, like, from the bottom of my heart.

昨晚，我說了一句發自肺腑的話。

I do feel like I owe a lot, a huge part of my career, especially, like, my touring in the States to you, because you are the one of two recommendations.

我覺得我的職業生涯，尤其是我在美國的巡演，很大程度上要歸功於你，因為你是我的兩個推薦人之一。

Yeah, but you could have gotten-

是的，但你本可以

But what for you? No.

但對你來說呢？沒有

You could have asked another person.

你可以問另一個人。

No, I couldn't.

不，我不能。

Yeah, you could have asked, like, you know, like, I'm sure you have relatives in-

是啊，你可以問，就像，你知道的，就像，我敢肯定，你有親戚在 -

I don't, no.

我沒有，沒有。

No?

不是嗎？

They need someone, like, in the industry.

他們需要一個業內人士。

Yeah, I'm very important.

是的，我很重要

Yeah, you are.

是的，你是。

I was a key to all your things.

我是你所有東西的鑰匙。

You're the only reason.

你是唯一的理由

Can I tell you something?

我能告訴你一件事嗎？

I'm actually so happy that we went out and got really fucked up last night.

其實我很高興，昨晚我們出去玩得很開心。

Bowen got really fucked up last night.

鮑文昨晚真的搞砸了。

Yeah, I was slurring my words.

是的，我說話含糊不清。

I'm, like, trying so hard to keep it together.

我，就像，拼命想讓自己保持清醒。

I am, too.

我也是。

Articulate, yeah.

口齒清晰，是的。

I feel like every time, every interaction we had, it was, like, pretty, like, just like, hey, what's up?

我覺得我們的每一次交流都很愉快，就像，嘿，你好嗎？

You know what I mean?

你明白我的意思嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

That's why, like, I was, like, oh, I like to connect with people deeply because I think that makes me, I like to feel something.

這就是為什麼，比如，我當時想，哦，我喜歡與人深入交流，因為我覺得這讓我，我喜歡去感受一些東西。

That's not everybody.

這不是每個人都能做到的。

I know, usually, people, you know, they do the small talk and then they go deep, you know, but then I love to just jump into the deep end because it's, like, I know five, seven minutes or whatever is fine, but then, yeah, I never felt that with you and, or whenever

我知道，通常情況下，人們會先閒聊幾句，然後再深入探討，但我喜歡直接跳入深入的話題，因為我知道五、七分鐘或其他時間都沒問題，但和你在一起時，我從未有過這種感覺。

I make friends, I always love doing that so that I get to know the person, really, and I think yesterday was nice to do that.

我喜歡交朋友，我總是喜歡這樣做，這樣我才能瞭解對方，真的，我覺得昨天這樣做很好。

It makes me feel a little more comfortable, yeah, and I like it.

這讓我感覺更舒服一些，是的，我喜歡這樣。

I really appreciate it.

我真的很感激。

Like, last night, I felt like you were super, super honest and vulnerable at some times.

就像昨晚，我覺得你在某些時候表現得超級、超級誠實和脆弱。

I want to.

我想

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I told you immediately, like, I appreciate that so much.

是啊，是啊，是啊，然後我馬上告訴你，我非常感激。

Like, I live for these moments because these are the conversations that, like, I feel like everyone is striving to get, you know, like, when you chat, like, bullshitting and stuff is fun.

我為這些時刻而活，因為這些對話是我覺得每個人都在努力爭取的，你知道，就像，當你哈拉時，胡說八道什麼的很有趣。

Yeah, it's fun.

是的，這很有趣。

Yeah, but, like, apart from that, sometimes you also want to have, like, meaningful conversations, but, okay, on that note, I did save two questions for you last night.

是的，但除此之外，有時你也想進行一些有意義的對話，不過，好吧，關於這一點，我昨晚確實給你留了兩個問題。

I told you, like, I'm gonna hit you so hard with these two questions.

我告訴過你，我會用這兩個問題 狠狠地打擊你。

Yes, because, like, your one and a half week of being here, I've been observing you, Jason.

是的，因為你來這裡的一個半星期 我一直在觀察你，傑森

You've been observing me?

你一直在觀察我？

Yeah, like a bird.

對，就像鳥一樣

I've been watching.

我一直在看。

You're a good observer, though.

不過，你是個很好的觀察者。

Yeah, I am.

是的，我是。

Thank you.

謝謝。

That's my comedy.

這就是我的喜劇。

Observational.

觀察。

Observational.

觀察。

Very good.

非常好

Very good.

非常好

So, my first question is, are you lonely?

那麼，我的第一個問題是，你孤獨嗎？

Do you feel lonely?

你感到孤獨嗎？

I feel like you are, I feel like, like, you're very lonely.

我覺得你很孤獨。

Dude, first of all, do not fucking gaslight your guest, okay?

老兄，首先，別他媽對你的客人施壓，好嗎？

Second of all, what kind of shit is that?

其次，這是什麼鬼東西？

You know, you know how sometimes people would be like, this is what my friends would do, that they have a proper job, like, they're like a doctor or like a lawyer.

你知道，有時候人們會說，我的朋友就是幹這個的，他們有正當職業，比如醫生或律師。

They'll come and they'll go like, you're tired, right?

他們來了又走，就像你累了，對嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

Like, when they start like that, because if you go, oh boy, I'm not tired.

就像，當他們開始這樣，因為如果你走了，哦，孩子，我不累。

I'm not tired.

我不累。

Then they'll be like, yeah, but really?

然後他們就會說，是啊，但真的嗎？

And then you'll be, you'll have to go, but then if you're like,

然後你就得走了，但如果你想，

I guess, yeah, let me find something.

我想，是的，讓我找點東西。

Yeah, let me, yeah, right?

是啊，讓我，是啊，對不對？

So, there's no defense when it comes to that, but this is where I, no, no, no.

所以，說到這一點，我沒有任何辯解的餘地，但這就是我，不，不，不。

We can backtrack, we can backtrack.

我們可以走回頭路，我們可以走回頭路。

No, no, no, I love this, but I just, I know you, I don't give a fuck about that.

不，不，不，我喜歡這樣，但我只是，我知道你， 我不給他媽的。

When people who are acquaintances, when they'll go, oh, you're tired, right?

當熟人問你累了吧？

Like, you're exhausted.

比如，你累壞了。

And I go, yeah, I'm really, you know, like when you have a dream and a passion, yeah, you devote, you want to devote all of your energy into, so you get tired.

我說，是的，我真的，你知道，就像當你有夢想和激情時，是的，你會投入，你想投入所有的精力，所以你會累。

But that's if, if you have a dream, but some people just are very well rested because.

但這只是如果，如果你有一個夢想，但有些人只是很好的休息，因為。

Yeah, for instance, like people who like to ask these kind of questions.

是的，比如，喜歡問這類問題的人。

If you had a dream, you would not ask that.

如果你有夢想，你就不會這麼問。

Yeah, ask that question, yeah, yeah, yeah.

是啊，問這個問題，是啊，是啊，是啊。

Let me kind of explain how I came to that question.

讓我解釋一下我是怎麼想到這個問題的。

Yes, I was going to ask that.

是的，我正想問這個問題。

I was going to start this conversation by asking you, like, obviously you came back to Taiwan.

我本來想在談話一開始就問你，很明顯你回到了臺灣。

You got to see a bunch of like open mics and like meet with the comedians here.

在這裡，你可以看到很多開放式麥克風，還能與喜劇演員見面。

All, yeah, most of them, yeah.

全部，是的，大部分，是的。

Like we talk a lot.

就像我們經常哈拉一樣。

I want, I wanted to start with like, what are your impressions of the comedy scene in Taiwan?

我想先問一下，你對臺灣喜劇界的印象如何？

And like, because you came back, I feel like you really liked the sense of a community, like having people, and I was like.

因為你回來了，我覺得你很喜歡社區的感覺，就像有人在一起，我就想，

I love it.

我喜歡

Don't you have a community in the States?

你們在美國沒有社區嗎？

I do.

我是這麼想的。

Yeah.

是啊

And I'm so grateful.

我非常感激。

Okay, that's nice.

好的，很好。

Yeah.

是啊

Because I was really worried.

因為我真的很擔心。

I was like, you don't have like.

我當時想，你沒有喜歡。

Oh, I do.

哦，我知道。

Comrade, camaraderie, I don't know, yeah.

同志，友情，我不知道，是的。

But that took me like such a long time to find like the group of people who I love.

但我花了很長時間才找到我愛的那群人。

Yeah, the sense of community in the beginning, you go into any new city.

是啊，一開始的社區意識，你進入任何一個新城市都會有。

It's hard to like find because I feel like a lot of cities you go, it's kind of like high school, you know, like there's cliques and stuff.

這很難找到，因為我覺得你去的很多城市，都有點像高中，你知道，就像有小團體之類的東西。

But I've been doing it so long.

但我已經做了很久了。

And the people have been doing it just as long or like longer or maybe shorter.

而人們做這件事的時間也一樣長，或者更長，或者更短。

But you know who's like very passionate and like who's very serious about the craft.

但你要知道，誰對這門手藝充滿熱情，誰對這門手藝非常認真。

And also, at the same time, what their intention is.

同時，他們的意圖是什麼？

And if they're like more fake, like there's a saying, you know, there's a saying like, oh, don't just expect the snake to be a snake.

如果他們更像假的，就像有句話說的那樣，你知道，有句話說得好，哦，不要只指望蛇是蛇。

You know, like there's so many different.

你知道，有這麼多不同的東西。

And then not that they're bad.

也不是說他們不好。

It's just that maybe they value like the industry and a little bit more than friendship.

只是，也許他們更看重的是行業，而不是友誼。

And but you find you sift through it and you find like a group of people that you like.

但你會發現，通過篩選，你會找到一群你喜歡的人。

And I'm really grateful for that.

我真的很感激。

And I love comedians because you have something, you know, it's like any industry, you have something already.

我喜歡喜劇演員，因為你有一些東西，你知道，就像任何行業一樣，你已經有了一些東西。

So when I came to Taiwan, I or Taipei, I wanted to because I'm Taiwanese, too.

所以，當我來到臺灣時，我還是臺北人，因為我也是臺灣人。

A surprise.

一個驚喜

And so I also want to surprise.

是以，我也想給大家一個驚喜。

And I also wanted to find that.

我也想找到這一點。

I guess I have more questions.

我想我還有更多的問題。

So how long did it take for you to find like comedians that kind of had the same vision or that you vibe with?

那麼，你花了多長時間才找到與你有相同理念或共鳴的喜劇演員？

Until like there's like some two or three core people who I started with like 10, 11 years ago.

直到有兩三個核心成員和我在 10 年或 11 年前開始合作。

Those are like longtime friends.

這些就像是多年的朋友。

And we got each other's backs.

我們互相支持。

We have one of the guys that I got a matching tattoo with recently.

我們有一個人最近和我一起紋了一個匹配的紋身。

But the people who I love right now, I would say like probably the pandemic.

但我現在愛的人，我想說的可能是大流行病。

I think pandemic brought a lot of people together.

我認為大流行病讓很多人走到了一起。

And you kind of find like who really cares.

你會發現，誰真的在乎呢？

And like, yeah, after that.

之後就這樣了

So I maybe like six, seven.

所以我可能有六、七歲吧。

And I also moved.

我還搬了家。

I was in San Diego and I moved to L.A. like seven years ago.

我以前在聖地亞哥，七年前搬到洛杉磯。

And anytime you, you know, it's so competitive.

無論何時，競爭都是如此激烈。

And then, you know, it's really clicky in the beginning.

然後，你知道，剛開始的時候真的很卡。

But you find your friends slowly.

但你會慢慢找到你的朋友。

I feel like the comedy scene here right now, we don't really have those like little groups.

我覺得現在這裡的喜劇界，還沒有像這樣的小團體。

Right now, the community is so small that everyone is just this really small group.

現在，這個社區太小了，每個人都只是這個真正的小團體。

And we're pretty tight.

我們關係很好。

But I do think that in the past, I would say one or two years, it's grown to the point where we're starting to see smaller groups.

但我確實認為，在過去的一兩年裡，它已經發展到了我們開始看到小團體的地步。

So what I'm observing is like there are comedians that are trying to find people that view comedy the same way as they do.

是以，我觀察到的情況是，有些喜劇演員正試圖找到和他們一樣看待喜劇的人。

And then they form these little groups.

然後他們組成這些小團體。

But it's just starting.

但這才剛剛開始。

It's just starting.

才剛剛開始

It's so good to see.

真高興看到這一幕。

And like yesterday, Sam was-

和昨天一樣，薩姆

We were noticing like people dress up nicely.

我們注意到，人們打扮得很漂亮。

Really?

真的嗎？

For the shows.

演出方面

For the show?

為了演出？

Yeah, for your show.

是啊，為了你的節目

That's what I was-

這就是我

You did open mic.

你做過麥霸

Yeah.

是啊

And I love it because it's like-

我喜歡它，因為它就像--

Okay, that-

好吧

Oh, that-

哦，那--

I love it.

我喜歡

I didn't notice because my impression was kind of the opposite.

我沒有注意到，因為我的印象恰恰相反。

Oh, really?

哦，真的嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

So like when I was touring in the States, I would vividly see people dress up to come to these shows.

是以，當我在美國巡演時，我清楚地看到人們盛裝出席這些演出。

But when we do shows in Taipei, wherever, like the arena, I don't think people really dress up.

但當我們在臺北演出時，無論在哪裡，比如在競技場，我覺得人們不會真的盛裝打扮。

Oh, the crowd.

哦，人群。

No, I was talking about the comedians.

不，我說的是喜劇演員。

Oh, okay.

哦，好吧

Yeah, the performers.

是的，表演者。

Oh, yeah.

哦，是的

They dress up.

他們盛裝打扮。

They look nice.

它們看起來不錯。

I know.

我知道

And I-

而我

Go ahead.

說吧

I think he was talking about-

我想他說的是

Was he talking about Jason Huang?

他是在說黃傑森嗎？

Jason Huang.

黃傑森

But there's another guy with the bucket hat.

但還有一個人帶著斗笠。

Uh-huh.

嗯哼

And-

還有

Wasn't that me?

那不是我嗎？

I was wearing a bucket hat.

我戴著一頂斗笠。

No, you wasn't wearing a-

不，你沒有穿

No, there's another guy who wore a bucket hat.

不，還有一個人戴著斗笠。

It's like he had a black bucket hat.

他就像戴了一頂黑斗笠。

I forgot.

我忘了

I don't know his name.

我不知道他的名字。

The guy that went on After You.

那個參加 "你之後 "節目的人

He's like-

他就像

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

哦，是啊，是啊，是啊，是啊。

He's an engineer at Microsoft.

他是微軟公司的工程師。