My full name is Kang Hong. Would you like me to spell it?

我的全名叫康紅要我拼一下嗎？

No, it's fine.

不，沒關係。

Are you working or are you a student?

您是在職還是在校學生？

I'm going to become a student next year.

明年我就要成為一名學生了。

I'm working on the process of attending university, the application process.

我正在研究上大學的程序和申請程序。

What major did you choose?

你選擇了什麼專業？

I think I'm going to go into pharmacy school, so like the pharmaceutical area.

我想我會進入藥學院，所以喜歡製藥領域。

Okay. And why did you choose this major?

好的你為什麼選擇這個專業？

I chose this major because I'm interested in the areas of biology and chemistry and pharmacy school is a way I can study that in depth.

我選擇這個專業是因為我對生物和化學領域很感興趣，而藥劑學校是我深入研究這些領域的一個途徑。

And also I want to be able to help other people through this process.

同時，我也希望能夠通過這個過程幫助其他人。

So I thought that was a good major to study for that.

是以，我認為這是一個很好的學習專業。

Great. And what do you like doing when you have some free time?

太好了。你空閒時喜歡做什麼？

One of the things I really enjoy doing in my free time is reading books.

我閒暇時最喜歡做的事情之一就是看書。

I read all different kinds of books and I just really enjoy it because I get to live another person's life.

我讀各種不同類型的書，我真的很喜歡，因為我可以過另一個人的生活。

I can see through other people's perspective, which I think is really valuable to me as well.

我能從別人的角度看問題，我認為這對我也非常有價值。

Okay. Now we're going to talk about your home.

好的現在我們來談談你的家。

So what kind of housing do you live in?

你住在什麼樣的房子裡？

I currently live in an apartment.

我目前住在公寓裡。

I think it's slightly different from other apartments in that it's only like six floors or something, but I think it's similar to other apartments as well.

我認為它與其他公寓略有不同，因為它只有六層樓之類，但我認為它也與其他公寓類似。

And what is your favorite room in your home?

您最喜歡家裡的哪個房間？

My favorite room is my bedroom just because there's a bed in it.

我最喜歡的房間是臥室，因為裡面有一張床。

And I sleep in the bed.

我睡在床上。

And also it's just my place to relax whenever I watch movies or read.

此外，每當我看電影或閱讀時，這裡就是我放鬆的地方。

I do it on the bed so it has nice memories attached to it as well.

我是在床上做的，所以也有美好的回憶。

And do you think you will live there for a long time?

您認為您會在那裡長期居住嗎？

Really, it's not up to me.

真的，這不是我能決定的。

I'm guessing it's going to be my parents and the contract of the housing.

我猜是我的父母和住房合同。

But if it were up to me,

但如果由我來決定

I think I would like to live there because I don't like moving.

我想我願意住在那裡，因為我不喜歡搬家。

Okay. And what's the difference between where you are living now and where you have lived in the past?

好的你現在住的地方和過去住的地方有什麼不同？

Yeah, so I have lived in different countries as I was growing up.

是的，在我成長的過程中，我在不同的國家生活過。

One country that I've lived in is India.

我曾經生活過的一個國家是印度。

And India is very different from Korea as well.

印度與韓國也有很大不同。

So just in the setting and the people, the culture, so that's very different as well.

是以，在環境、人和文化方面也有很大不同。

Now we're going to talk about meeting places.

現在我們來談談聚會地點。

So where is your favorite place to meet your friends?

您最喜歡在哪裡與朋友聚會？

One of my favorite places to meet my friends, though I haven't met many, is a place called Hyehwa Station.

我最喜歡去的一個朋友聚會地點是一個叫惠化站的地方，雖然我還沒有見過很多朋友。

I think I really enjoy that place because there's a lot of people, a lot of restaurants that we can hang out in.

我覺得我真的很喜歡那個地方，因為那裡有很多人，有很多餐廳，我們可以在那裡閒逛。

But also there are a lot of theaters there and I really enjoy watching musicals and plays as well.

不過，那裡也有很多劇院，我也非常喜歡看音樂劇和戲劇。

So by hanging out there, we have access to different kinds of theater, plays, restaurants, whatever that we can do, making it a great spot to hang out in.

是以，在那裡閒逛，我們可以接觸到不同類型的劇院、戲劇、餐館等任何我們可以做的事情，這讓那裡成為了一個非常適合閒逛的地方。

And do you think some places are more suitable for meeting than others?

您認為有些地方比其他地方更適合聚會嗎？

Definitely, because I meet my friends because I want to do something with them.

當然，我和朋友們見面是因為我想和他們一起做些什麼。

I want to pursue an activity with them.

我想和他們一起開展活動。

But if I go to places where there aren't a lot of choices that I can, or things that I can do with my friends, then it becomes less fun, I guess, to hang out with my friends.

但如果我去的地方沒有太多的選擇，也沒有太多可以和朋友一起做的事情，那麼我想，和朋友一起出去玩就變得不那麼有趣了。

And so it's better to meet in certain places where there are different kinds of things we can do, different activities that we can access.

是以，最好在某些地方聚會，在那裡我們可以做不同的事情，可以參加不同的活動。

And are there any differences between your favorite meeting places now and when you were a child?

您現在最喜歡的聚會地點和小時候有什麼不同嗎？

Yeah, I guess the main difference would be what I was doing in those meeting places.

是的，我想主要區別在於我在那些聚會場所做了什麼。

These days I would, again, watch movies or eat and hang out just generally with my friends.

這些天，我還是會和朋友們一起看電影、吃飯和閒逛。

But I would imagine that when I was younger,

但我年輕的時候也會這麼想、

I would go to playgrounds, perhaps, with my friends to hang out.

也許，我會和朋友們一起去遊樂場玩耍。

And that in itself, the activity is different.

這本身就是一項與眾不同的活動。

Therefore, the meeting place would also have to change as well, from playground to, I guess, popular street or a popular meeting place.

是以，聚會地點也必須改變，從操場變成，我猜，流行的街道或流行的聚會地點。

Perfect. All right, that will do for part one.

好極了好了，第一部分到此為止。

We'll go on to part two now.

現在開始第二部分。

Okay, so here is your question.

好吧，這就是你的問題。

Let's give you a pencil there as well.

我們也給你一支鉛筆吧。

So I'll give you one minute to take some notes, okay?

我給你們一分鐘做筆記，好嗎？

Okay. You can begin.

好了，你可以開始了

Okay, that's one minute.

好吧，就一分鐘

Okay, so your question.

好吧，你的問題是

Yes. Could you describe an important thing that you learned not in school or college?

是的。您能描述一下您在學校或大學裡沒有學到的重要知識嗎？

Yes. Throughout my life, an important saying that I've learned and stuck close to is to always be grateful with what I have and go based upon it.

是的，在我的一生中，我學到並堅持的一句重要箴言就是：對我所擁有的一切心存感激，並在此基礎上繼續前行。

And I learned this when I was living abroad.

這是我在國外生活時學到的。

And so I've lived in various countries.

是以，我在不同的國家生活過。

And so I've always had to move around in different places.

是以，我總是不得不在不同的地方奔波。

And because of that, I've always had a little bit of a disconnect with my friends because I had to move around.

正因為如此，我和我的朋友們總是有些隔閡，因為我不得不四處奔波。

Whenever I got close, I would have to change my country.

每當我接近時，我就不得不改變我的國家。

And so I would always, through that process, I learned to be grateful, to be positive in the current situation.

是以，在這個過程中，我學會了感恩，學會了積極面對現狀。

And I learned it by, I guess, trying to just evaluate the situation in a more positive mindset and look at things that I can gain from it instead of the things that I've lost.

我想，我是通過努力以一種更積極的心態來評估現狀，看看我能從中獲得什麼，而不是失去什麼，從而學會了這一點。

And it's really important because it gave me a more positive outlook on life.

這真的很重要，因為它讓我對生活有了更積極的看法。

And also, it allowed me to stay motivated to study or hang out with my friends or meet new people instead of dwelling on the things I've lost or the past.

此外，它還能讓我保持學習的動力，或與朋友一起玩耍，或結識新朋友，而不是沉浸在失去的東西或過去的回憶中。

So, yeah, the saying to always be grateful is what I've learned.

所以，是的，"常懷感恩之心 "這句話是我學到的。

And who taught you this skill?

這項技能是誰教你的？

Yeah, I think it's, I'm going to have to say my parents because I've talked to them a lot of times when I was struggling with my current situation.

是的，我想，我得說是我的父母，因為在我為目前的處境掙扎時，我和他們談過很多次。

For example, I remember on my first day back, I think second grade of my new school,

例如，我記得我回來的第一天，應該是新學校的二年級、

I really struggled because I was constantly reminded of my past school and my past friends.

我真的很掙扎，因為我總是想起過去的學校和過去的朋友。

I wasn't able to really focus on the current situation and just the present.

我無法真正專注於當前的情況，而只是專注於現在。

And by talking and conversing with my parents, I was able to learn.

通過與父母交談和對話，我學到了很多東西。

I can kind of get out of this dark spot or the slump, I guess, to by being grateful with what I have and focusing on the positive parts of the current situation rather than the negative parts.

我想，我可以通過對我所擁有的一切心存感激，專注於當前形勢的積極部分而不是消極部分，來擺脫這種陰霾或低迷。

And yeah, so my parents would be the answer.

是的，我的父母就是答案。

Great. Really nice.

好極了。真不錯

Okay, so now we'll go on to part three of the test.

好了，現在我們進入測試的第三部分。

Okay, so yeah, the first question, what can children learn from parents?

好吧，那麼第一個問題，孩子能從父母身上學到什麼？

Like I said, I think students or children can learn from their parents, their attitude in life, how they go about living their daily life, their mindset as well.

就像我說的，我認為學生或孩子可以從父母身上學到他們的生活態度、日常生活方式和心態。

And I guess that's one of the many things that they can learn from their parents.

我想這也是他們能從父母身上學到的許多東西之一。

And it's really important to learn that from their parents because the parents have lived many more years than the child, and so they have gone through that process of finding that right mindset or finding the positive outlook.

向父母學習這一點非常重要，因為父母比孩子多活了很多年，他們已經經歷了尋找正確心態或積極人生觀的過程。

And they can kind of pass it on to the child rather than the child having to go through trial and error to figure that out on their own, which is really important for the child in their life and going onwards.

他們可以把這些知識傳授給孩子，而不是讓孩子自己去摸索，這對孩子的一生和未來都非常重要。

And what other influences do children have when they're learning in their childhood?

兒童在童年學習時還會受到哪些影響？

Other than their parents, I think an important influence would be their friends.

除了他們的父母，我認為他們的朋友也會對他們產生重要影響。

Not just because, like for example, a lot of students go to school or academia and in that process, they meet a lot of friends and they hang out and spend a lot of time with them.

不只是因為，比如說，很多學生上學或做學問，在這個過程中，他們會認識很多朋友，他們會和他們一起玩，花很多時間在一起。

And therefore, it's inevitable that they start to, I guess, adopt a lot of their mindsets, their way of speech or things like that.

是以，我猜他們不可避免地開始採用他們的思維方式、說話方式或類似的東西。

And therefore, it's important to have good friends, I believe.

是以，我認為擁有好朋友很重要。

Because that can change your course of life or that can change your attitude, which can really alter your future as well.

因為這可以改變你的人生軌跡，也可以改變你的態度，從而真正改變你的未來。

So your friends can also have a big influence on you.

是以，你的朋友也會對你產生很大的影響。

Yes. And do you think some children are well-behaved because they are influenced by their parents?

是的。你認為有些孩子之所以乖巧是因為受到父母的影響嗎？

I guess this is a fundamental question in the discussion of nature and nurture, I believe.

我想，這是討論天性與教養的一個基本問題。

Part of it, I do believe, because I do study science and biology and things like that, part of it does come from genetics and their natural body, but also a lot of it does come from their parents and their surroundings.

我確實相信，因為我確實研究過科學和生物學之類的東西，其中一部分確實來自遺傳學和他們的天生體質，但也有很多確實來自他們的父母和周圍環境。

And so that part is the nurture aspect.

是以，這部分就是培養方面。

And so it's important that they have a positive influence from their parents so that they can grow to be more, I guess, well-behaved or fitting in society.

是以，重要的是，他們能從父母那裡得到積極的影響，這樣他們就能成長為更加，我想，更加乖巧或更加適應社會的人。

And how should parents handle a situation where their children are misbehaving in public?

如果孩子在公共場合行為不端，家長應該如何處理？

Right. So I think that's a question that a lot of parents would struggle with.

是的。所以我認為這是很多家長都會糾結的問題。

And I'm not sure I would have the answer because I'm not a parent.

我不知道自己能不能找到答案，因為我不是家長。

But if I put myself in the parents' shoes,

但是，如果我設身處地為父母著想、

I think one important step that I would take is to make sure that the parents choose, I think one important step is to first tell this child that it is not right to do this in a public setting.

我認為，我會採取的一個重要步驟是確保家長選擇，我認為一個重要步驟是首先告訴孩子，在公共場合這樣做是不對的。

And I guess give them a friendly reminder first instead of just going straight into scolding or being mad at them because that can start to have a negative impact on them and they can have a negative outlook on the whole situation.

我想先給他們一個友好的提醒，而不是直接責罵或對他們發火，因為這樣會對他們產生負面影響，他們會對整個情況產生消極的看法。

And rather than that, we can give them something positive to focus on and say, while this that you did was good,

與其這樣，我們還不如給他們一些積極的東西，讓他們關注並說，你做的這件事很好、

I think you should do this or kind of guide them in a certain way instead of scolding or even hitting or abusing your child, which is really important on the child's development as well.

我認為你應該這樣做，或者以某種方式引導他們，而不是責罵甚至打罵孩子，這對孩子的成長也非常重要。

And is it necessary for adults to learn new things?

成年人有必要學習新知識嗎？

Definitely. It's very important for adults to learn new things.

當然。對於成年人來說，學習新知識非常重要。

I think as human beings, we're constantly evolving, we're constantly adopting to new situations or new things.

我認為，作為人類，我們在不斷進化，不斷適應新環境或新事物。

And just because we're adults or past a certain age doesn't mean that we stop learning or stop gaining new things from life, especially attitudes, like I mentioned, but also skills or manners of behaving in certain situations.

雖然我們已經成年或過了一定的年齡，但這並不意味著我們不再學習或不再從生活中獲得新的東西，尤其是態度，就像我提到的，還有在某些情況下的技能或行為方式。

Like for example, I have always been in high school, for four years I've been in high school, but now I'm becoming a college student.

比如說，我一直在上高中，上了四年高中，但現在我成為了一名大學生。

That requires new skills, new things I need to learn, new attitudes, and therefore I guess I am an adult, technically, but I'm still growing and evolving and learning new things, which is important for any adult as well.

這需要新的技能、我需要學習的新東西和新的態度，是以我想，嚴格來說，我已經是一個成年人了，但我仍在成長、發展和學習新的東西，這對任何成年人來說都很重要。

And what kind of new things do you think elderly people should learn?

您認為老年人應該學習哪些新知識？

Elderly people. I think one important thing for elderly people to learn, though I don't want to sound condescending in any way, would be to, I guess, accept, or I guess go with the flow of the modern society.

老年人。我認為，老年人需要學習的一件重要事情是，我想，接受或者說順應現代社會的潮流。

I think a lot of people kind of get stuck in the past and thinking this is how it used to be and now we have to put that on our children and make sure they live a certain way as well.

我認為，很多人都停留在過去，認為過去就是這樣，現在我們必須把這種想法強加給我們的孩子，並確保他們也以某種方式生活。

I think it's important for them to learn and evaluate the current situation and see the course of history, I guess, and see how things are changing and kind of adopting to that and not restricting their children in any way of saying you have to sit in this tiny little box, but also allow them to try different things as well.

我認為，重要的是讓他們學習和評估當前的形勢，看看歷史的進程，我想，看看事情是如何變化的，並採取相應的措施，而不是以任何方式限制他們的孩子，說你必須坐在這個小盒子裡，但也允許他們嘗試不同的東西。

So that's a new skill, I guess, for them to learn.

是以，我想這是他們要學習的一項新技能。

Okay, perfect. That will do us. Thank you very much.

好，太好了這樣就可以了非常感謝

That's it. Alright, so now let's start with the feedback.

就是這樣。好了，現在讓我們從反饋開始。

I thought it was an excellent test. I think that's definitely enough for 9.0. Your fluency, pronunciation, grammar, vocabulary, all excellent, all at a very high level.

我認為這是一次出色的測試。我認為這絕對夠得上 9.0。你的流利程度、發音、文法、詞彙都非常出色，都達到了很高的水準。

One thing I would say in Part 2, you spoke for just over a minute, maybe a minute and ten, a minute and fifteen.

我想說的是，在第二部分中，你只說了一分多鐘，也許是一分十分，一分十五。

In the real exam, I would always say to students, try to keep speaking for the full two minutes and you don't really need to have a conclusion in this one, but you know, in the exam it says between one to two minutes, but I would usually say just try and keep speaking, but that was great. Yeah, and just want to point out some very positive things, like good expressions. I asked you one difficult question about how should parents handle a misbehaving student, and obviously you don't have that experience, but you said if I put myself in their shoes, in their situation, so that was a really nice expression. You used some nice phrasal verbs, nice idioms, nice expressions all the way throughout, so it was really clear, really good test, so thank you for your answers. Thank you so much.

在真正的考試中，我總是對學生說，儘量說滿兩分鐘，這次考試不需要總結，但你知道，考試說的是一到兩分鐘，但我通常會說，儘量說下去，但這很好。是的，我只想指出一些非常積極的東西，比如良好的表達。我問了你一個很難的問題，關於家長應該如何處理行為不端的學生，顯然你沒有這方面的經驗，但你說，如果我設身處地為他們著想，站在他們的立場上，這樣的表達非常好。你用了一些很好的短語動詞、很好的成語、很好的表達方式，所以整個過程非常清晰，考得很好，謝謝你的回答。非常感謝。

Thank you.

謝謝。