This is so hard because I'm such an honest person and it's so hard for me to do these kind of things because the answer is I probably take things off.

這太難了，因為我是個誠實的人，我很難做這種事，因為答案是我可能會不穿。

What's the one piece of advice you have for someone going through a hard time?

對於正在經歷困難的人，你有什麼建議？

Go right through it.

直接穿過它。

Like right through it.

直接穿過它就對了。

Feel it.

感受它。

Be in it.

融入其中。

Don't avoid it.

不要回避。

Go completely in it.

完全融入其中。

Feel everything and then go right through it and get out the other end.

感受一切，然後穿過它，從另一端出來。

Many of these things you don't have a choice.

很多事情你別無選擇。

You know, it's that expression, it's how well you walk through the fire, but you walk through it.

這就是那種表達方式，就是你在火中走得有多好，但你還是走過去了。

What's the one thing you do when you need strength?

當你需要力量時，你會做什麼？

I think I, well I probably, I spend time with my kids and just to be around them because they're the best of me and I've learned something from all of them differently and I think they're really interesting people, but I feel stronger when I'm with them.

我覺得我，我可能會花時間和我的孩子們在一起，就為了和他們在一起，因為他們是我最好的朋友，我從他們身上學到了不同的東西，我覺得他們真的是很有趣的人，但當我和他們在一起時，我覺得自己更強大了。

What's one piece of styling advice you've gotten from your kids?

孩子們給你的造型建議是什麼？

My daughter tells me I wear too many trench coats and I know there are certain things they wouldn't want me to wear.

我女兒說我穿太多風衣了，我知道有些東西他們不希望我穿。

I think I stopped wearing certain things when I had teenagers.

當我有了十幾歲的孩子後，我就不再穿某些衣服了。

Is there something they love seeing you in?

他們喜歡看你穿什麼衣服嗎？

You know the nicest thing is I've realized as my children have gotten older, when I put myself together nicely or when I'm creative and I'm doing something fun, they're so happy.

最棒的是，我發現隨著孩子們年齡的增長，當我把自己打扮得漂漂亮亮的時候，或者當我有創造力、做一些有趣的事情的時候，他們都會非常開心。

I think it's a way of seeing that their mother's being herself and feeling good.

我想這是一種看到母親做自己、感覺良好的方式。

Tell me about the one time your kids wore your old red carpet dresses.

跟我說說有一次你的孩子穿了你以前的紅地毯禮服。

What's the story behind that?

這背後有什麼故事？

That was just an experiment in here's some old clothes, here's some vintage, here's some things you can cut up, here's something you can do it all these different ways.

這只是一個實驗，我有一些舊衣服，有一些古董，有一些可以剪碎的衣物，有一些可以用各種不同方法做的衣服。

Who are you?

你是誰？

What do you want?

你想要什麼？

You know, I don't work regularly with a stylist.

你知道，我並不經常與造型師合作。

I don't like the idea of just somebody putting clothes on me or on my kids.

我不喜歡別人隨便給我或我的孩子穿衣服。

I don't think they like the idea of being styled by someone else.

我認為他們不喜歡由別人來設計造型。

So much of clothing is identity and if someone else is styling you and if someone else is dictating who you are and what you wear, especially as a mother, I want to know who my children are.

服裝在很大程度上是身份的象徵，如果由別人來為你設計造型，如果由別人來決定你是誰，你穿什麼，尤其是作為一個母親，我想知道我的孩子是誰，

And so I want to put things in front of them that help them question or break the box or say I don't like this or this doesn't feel right.

所以我想把一些東西擺在他們面前，幫助他們提出疑問或打破常規，或者說我不喜歡這個，或者這個感覺不對。

So you're always trying to just put different options in front of them and see where it takes them.

所以，你總是試圖在他們面前擺出不同的選擇，看看他們會怎麼做。

Tell me the one moment you knew you wanted to start a fashion business.

請告訴我，你是在什麼時候知道自己想做時裝生意的？

I was a punk.

我是個龐克。

So when I see very expensive corporate clothing that is made to look punk, it's the opposite of what punk is.

當我看到非常昂貴的企業服裝被做成龐克的樣子時，這與龐克的本質恰恰相反。

So one thing I was with my children and it wasn't a one moment,

我和我的孩子們在一起，這並不是一個瞬間，

but it was a series of moments with them realizing that the way young people decide clothing does not feed as much as it should into their individuality and creativity.

而是一系列的瞬間，他們意識到年輕人決定服裝的方式並沒有為他們的個性和創造力提供應有的養分。

What's the one focus of your new fashion business?

你的新時尚事業的重點是什麼？

The focus is about how we can contribute and how we can share our business with other people, how we can all work as a collective and make it nice for customers and for people to play.

重點是我們如何做出貢獻，如何與其他人分享我們的業務，我們如何作為一個集體開展工作，為客戶和人們創造良好的遊戲環境。

So we're very focused on that as our business model.

我們非常重視這種業務模式。

What's one piece of advice you'd give to somebody starting a business?

你對創業者有什麼建議？

I think you make something you truly enjoy and you hope that it brings the same level of interest and joy in someone else.

我認為，你要做自己真正喜歡的東西，並希望它能給別人帶來同樣的興趣和快樂。

So to try to be really bold in creating something that you actually really do stand behind.

要大膽嘗試，創造出自己真正支持的東西。

And understanding why you're doing it.

並理解你為什麼要這麼做。

Are you doing it for finances or are you doing it because you believe in something and you're creative and excited?

你這樣做是為了經濟，還是因為你相信某件事情，你有創造力並感到興奮？

And I think there's a difference.

我認為這兩者是有區別的。

What's the one trait you look for in a collaborator?

你在尋找合作者時最看重的特質是什麼？

I think someone who's bold and maybe a little mad, a little bit of madness.

我認為這個人要是一個大膽的人，也許有點瘋狂。

Why is that important?

為什麼這很重要？

I think while it's very important to be thoughtful and ethical and considerate,

我認為，深思熟慮、有道德感、考慮周到固然很重要，

it's also very important to have a little madness, have a little wild, get out of the box, get out of your head and be willing to make a fool of yourself, make a mess.

但有點瘋狂、有點野性、跳出框框、跳出思維定勢、願意出醜、把事情搞得一團糟也很重要。

What's one piece of advice you'd want to give your younger self?

你想給年輕的自己什麼建議？

Oh, so many things I'd like to warn her about.

我想提醒她的事情太多了。

I think it's taken me a long time to get back to her.

我想我花了很長時間才回到她身邊。

I didn't trust my madness.

我不相信我的瘋狂。

I didn't think it was a good thing when I was young and I think it's a part of me.

我年輕的時候不認為這是一件好事，我認為這是我的一部分。

It's important.

這很重要。

Would you say you're creating for her now?

你覺得你現在是在為她創作嗎？

I think that's a very nice way to put it.

我覺得這樣說很好。

I think, yeah, I'm trying to find her again.

我想，是的，我想再找到她。