Who do you think is stronger, Captain America or Iron Man?

你認為美國隊長和鋼鐵俠誰更強大？

Well, I'm biased, so I'm going to say Cap.

好吧，我有偏見，所以我要說是 Cap。

But who's smarter? Who's richer? I'll give those to Tony.

但誰更聰明？誰更有錢？我把這些都給託尼

Fantastic Four.

神奇四俠

Now picture that, but everywhere.

現在想象一下，但是到處都是。

I wasn't a big comic book reader.

我不太喜歡看漫畫書。

I mean, I've read a lot now.

我是說，我現在讀了很多書。

But at the time, aside from the 80s and early 90s,

但在當時，除了 80 年代和 90 年代初、

Batman, Superman, things like that, that new wave of superhero films, the Spider-Man, the X-Men, they had just begun.

蝙蝠俠》、《超人》等超級英雄電影的新浪潮、《蜘蛛俠》、《X 戰警》才剛剛開始。

So it was really exciting.

所以這真的很令人興奮。

Marvel hadn't even kind of taken back their name yet, so that film was a fox.

驚奇公司甚至還沒有收回他們的名字，所以那部電影只是一隻狐狸。

It was one of the bigger movies I had done up until that point, so I was ecstatic, and it was a fun role to play.

這是我之前拍過的最大型的電影之一，所以我很高興，而且這個角色也很有趣。

He was full of life, and he reacted the way I probably would have reacted if I was given superpowers.

他充滿了生命力，他的反應就像我被賦予超能力時的反應一樣。

I'm so close to flying, guys, I can taste it.

我就快飛起來了，夥計們，我都能嚐到了。

You can't fly.

你不能飛

Yet.

然而

Johnny, can you put that napkin out?

約翰尼，你能把餐巾拿出來嗎？

Jesus.

天啊

Well, it was the first time doing those big action-y stunts.

嗯，這是第一次做那些大型動作特技。

You show up on a set that's two blocks long and these giant cables and explosions and green screens, and it's the stuff you see in the making-ofs on other films, and it's kind of like, wow, I make movies.

你出現在一個有兩個街區長的片場，這些巨大的電纜、爆炸和綠色螢幕，這些都是你在其他電影的製作花絮中看到的東西，讓人覺得，哇，我拍電影了。

This is great.

這太棒了。

And just having a good time with the cast.

和演員們一起度過美好時光。

We had a lot of fun.

我們玩得很開心。

This was in the early 2000s.

那是在 2000 年代初。

This is before social media.

這是在社交媒體之前。

I think everyone probably had a Nokia flip phone, so it still was a time where in between takes everyone's not buried in their phone.

我想當時每個人可能都有一部諾基亞翻蓋手機，所以在拍攝間隙，每個人都不會埋頭玩手機。

You're conversing, and at night you're socializing.

你們在交談，晚上你們在社交。

Yeah, it was my early 20s.

是啊，那是我二十出頭的時候。

It was a good time.

那是一段美好時光。

Captain America.

美國隊長

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You knew that Marvel had big plans, that the goal was to create this tapestry and integrate these worlds in a way that really hadn't been done prior.

你知道漫威公司有很大的計劃，目標是以一種前無古人的方式創造出這種掛毯並整合這些世界。

And I knew what the comic books offered me, you know, just about the character.

我知道漫畫書為我提供了什麼，你知道，只是關於這個角色。

With, like, most comics, there's a number of different writers who are writing for that character and a number of different storylines, so you're not quite sure which one they're going to follow.

就像大多數漫畫一樣，會有很多不同的編劇為這個角色創作，也會有很多不同的故事情節，所以你不太確定他們會遵循哪一個故事情節。

Yeah, it wasn't a whole lot about where the character was going to end up.

是的，這個角色的結局並不重要。

It was more about, you know, the burden of trying to create this universe.

更多的是關於，你知道，試圖創造這個宇宙的負擔。

But that didn't really fall in my lap.

但這並沒有落到我的頭上。

That was other people's responsibility.

那是其他人的責任。

And we had Downey driving the show, you know what I mean?

我們讓唐尼來主持節目，你明白我的意思嗎？

Like, he had already done so well with Iron Man, and it was such a phenomenon that you kind of felt like, okay, this is, we're off on the right foot.

就像《鋼鐵俠》一樣，他已經做得很好了，而且這部電影已經成為一種現象，你會覺得，好吧，這就是，我們的正確起點。

Before we get started, does anyone want to get out?

在我們開始之前，有人想出去嗎？

You want to see how the fans see him, you know what I mean?

你想看看球迷是怎麼看他的，明白我的意思嗎？

Anytime I've heard about movies that are being made or remade, something that's dear to me, you realize how protective and possessive you are over that role, and you want to make sure the person playing the character respects that perspective and isn't just like, well, you know,

每當我聽說有電影要製作或重拍時，我就會意識到自己對這個角色的保護欲和佔有慾有多強，你想確保飾演這個角色的人尊重你的觀點，而不是 "嗯，你知道的"、

I know they know the character, but this is my time, and I'm going to do my thing.

我知道他們瞭解這個角色，但這是我的時間，我要做我自己的事。

That's stumbling right out of the gate.

一出場就跌跌撞撞。

So first step, try to understand why other people like him and honor it as best you can.

所以第一步，要試著理解別人喜歡他的原因，並儘可能地尊重他。

Avengers!

復仇者聯盟

Assemble.

組裝。

There's a lot of fun moments in Endgame because it's a lot of moments that are servicing the fandom, but for a lot of those prep montage where we're about to go back and get the stones, it's kind of some of the original people, and we just got to be in this room for weeks.

在《終局》中有很多有趣的片段，因為很多片段都是為粉絲服務的，但在很多準備蒙太奇的片段中，我們要回去拿寶石，都是一些原班人馬，我們在這個房間裡待了好幾個星期。

I obviously really like the scene where I pick up Mjolnir for the first time.

顯然，我非常喜歡第一次拿起魔龍的場景。

It just felt good.

就是感覺很好。

Most of the scenes in Endgame, it just, you're fully aware of what you got to be a part of.

在《終局》中的大部分場景中，你都能充分意識到自己參與其中的意義。

You're really just kind of so grateful every day and just trying to absorb it all.

你每天都心懷感激，努力吸收這一切。

I think when you're in the middle of it, it's just always like, ah, there's another Marvel movie next year.

我認為，當你身處其中時，總會覺得，啊，明年還有一部漫威電影。

Not that you take it for granted, but it just doesn't resonate the same way when you know, wow, we're wrapping in a couple weeks, and I'm putting this shield down, and it's been such a big part of my life for a decade.

並不是說你認為這是理所當然的，只是當你知道，哇，我們還有幾周就要結束了，我就要放下這個盾牌，而它已經成為我生活中重要的一部分長達十年之久時，你就不會產生同樣的共鳴了。

So most of Endgame was a really, really lovely experience.

是以，《終局》的大部分內容都是一次非常非常美好的經歷。

How does it feel?

感覺如何？

Like it's someone else's.

就像它是別人的一樣。

It isn't.

不是這樣的。

That last day was, you know, emotional.

最後一天，你知道，很激動。

It's like graduating school.

就像學校畢業一樣。

I mean, like, you know the day's coming, and then it's all of a sudden here, and you feel like it went by way too quick, and I mean, it's life-changing.

我的意思是，就像你知道這一天即將來臨，然後它突然就來了，你會覺得時間過得太快，我的意思是，它改變了你的生活。

My life is forever not the same.

我的生活永遠不一樣了。

My family's life isn't.

我的家庭生活卻不是這樣。

I mean, you know what I mean?

我是說，你明白我的意思嗎？

The ripple effect of signing up for that role is kind of immeasurable, for me at least, and it was a beautiful time, full of gratitude.

至少對我來說，簽約擔任這個角色所產生的連鎖反應是無法估量的，那是一段充滿感激的美好時光。

Scott Pilgrim vs. The World

斯科特-皮爾格林大戰世界

You really don't know about the League?

你真的不知道聯盟？

Um...

嗯...

The seven evil exes coming to kill you, controlling the future of Ramona's love life?

七個邪惡的前男友來殺你，控制雷蒙娜愛情生活的未來？

No.

不

Oh, well, hey, listen, man, don't worry about it.

哦，好吧，聽著，夥計，別擔心。

Really?

真的嗎？

Yeah, let's go get a beer.

我們去喝啤酒吧

That's great.

好極了

Boom!

Boom！

The pitch for Scott Pilgrim was so strange, but he kind of said, you know,

斯科特-皮爾格林》的企劃非常奇怪，但他說，你知道的、

Lucas Lee is this movie star, but he really doesn't have much range, and he thinks he's great, but he's actually terrible, and I think you'd be perfect.

盧卡斯-李是個電影明星，但他其實沒什麼演技，他覺得自己很棒，但其實很糟糕，我覺得你很合適。

I said, okay.

我說，好吧。

They spent a lot of time trying to get me to look comfortable, but at the end of the day,

他們花了很多時間來讓我看起來舒服一些，但最終還是不行、

I'm still hanging off the cables and had a rig where my shoe was connected to the skateboard, so when I try and ollie, it comes up with me.

我仍然懸掛在纜繩上，而且我的鞋子和滑板連接在一起，所以當我嘗試滑行時，滑板就會跟著我一起飛起來。

You know, but you dive in because you're in this big warehouse, and Mary's in the corner working with swords, and Mike and Jason are over there doing this big action sequence, so, you know, you're just happy to be a part of it.

你知道，但你會投入其中，因為你在這個大倉庫裡，瑪麗在角落裡擺弄劍，邁克和傑森在那邊做大型動作戲，所以，你知道，你很高興能參與其中。

That's probably the most fun

這可能是最有趣的

I've had on a movie.

我看過一部電影。

Again, early in my career, 20s, but a big cast of people in the same place.

同樣，我的職業生涯才剛剛開始，20 多歲，但有一大群人在同一個地方。

All I want to have is adopted babies.

我只想生收養的孩子。

The cast was very connected.

演員們的關係非常密切。

Hey!

嘿！

Hey!

嘿！

I'm not stupid!

我又不傻！

Oh!

哦！

Looks like you're seeing double.

看來你看到的是雙重的。

He's good, right?

他很棒，對吧？

Leaving was heartbreaking.

離開讓人心碎。

It truly was, like, the first time I was like,

這真的是，就像，我第一次喜歡、

I mean, I can just hang out, guys, if you need me to, you know.

我的意思是，我可以只是掛出，夥計們， 如果你需要我，你知道的。

You don't want to miss a beat.

你不想錯過任何一個節拍。

Another film where there was a rehearsal period.

另一部有排練期的電影。

That was more physical based.

那更多的是基於身體。

You know, a lot of people had action sequences.

你知道，很多人都有動作戲。

I had to learn how to skateboard, but the rehearsal was so fun, then you leave and come back a month later to do your bit, and you just have such horrible FOMO.

我必須學會滑板，但排練非常有趣，然後你離開，一個月後再回來表演，你就會產生可怕的 "FOMO"。

You just, you know, what have you guys been doing?

你們在做什麼？

Have you been having fun?

你玩得開心嗎？

Send me pictures.

把照片發給我

Yeah, to this day, that email chain is still very active.

是啊，時至今日，這條郵件鏈依然非常活躍。

When I first saw it, after they finished the edit, before it had been released,

我第一次看到它的時候，是在他們完成剪輯之後，還沒上映之前、

I saw it and was just like, this movie is going to be huge, you know, and then, oddly, it kind of came and went.

我看了之後就想，這部電影一定會大火，然後，奇怪的是，它來得快去得也快。

The moons that have to align for a movie to not just be good, but find success, is a lot.

一部電影要想不僅好看，而且獲得成功，所需的月數是很多的。

But it's nice to know that that one continues to find new audiences, and it's kind of created a little bit of like a cult following.

但令人欣慰的是，這部電影仍在不斷吸引新的觀眾，併產生了一些追捧者。

That's why we're doing this animated series, and I've just never been a part of something where all Edgar had to do was say, hey, you guys want to do this?

這就是為什麼我們要做這個動畫系列，我從來沒有參與過這樣的事情，埃德加只需要說，嘿，你們想做這個嗎？

And it was a race to jump in.

大家爭先恐後地跳了進去。

Everyone, yes, of course, of course, no brainer.

每個人，是的，當然，當然，沒問題。

So yeah, it's a little family.

所以是的，這是一個小家庭。

Not another teen movie.

不是另一部青少年電影

At that point,

那時候

I would have taken any movie.

我願意接受任何一部電影。

But yeah, to be able to spoof some of those films that I grew up on was a treat.

不過是的，能夠惡搞一些我從小看大的電影也是一種享受。

Oh my God, it's Jake!

天啊，是傑克

Hi, Dad.

嗨，爸爸

Hi, Jake.

嗨，傑克

I love what he does with his eyebrows.

我喜歡他的眉毛。

There was Ferris Bueller elements.

還有布費利元素。

My dad in the movie was Ferris' dad.

電影裡我爸爸是費里斯的爸爸。

Just to be in any way somewhat adjacent to Ferris Bueller was pretty exciting at the time.

能以任何方式與布費利相提並論，在當時都是一件令人興奮的事。

Janie's got a gun.

珍妮有槍

Janie Briggs got a gun.

珍妮-布里格斯有槍

She's got a gun!

她有槍

Janie's got a gun!

珍妮有槍

Janie Briggs got a gun.

珍妮-布里格斯有槍

Comedy's more intimidating.

喜劇更有威懾力

Keeping things fresh on a film set is the biggest challenge.

在片場保持新鮮感是最大的挑戰。

Drama, you can always find something to make it feel honest.

戲劇，你總能找到讓人感覺誠實的東西。

Comedy, you know, when you tell a joke or you know the comedic rhythm that's coming, it's very easy to get stale.

喜劇，你知道，當你講一個笑話或你知道即將發生的喜劇節奏時，就很容易變味。

You've got to be really nimble and just intrinsically funny, which I don't know that I am.

你必須非常靈活，而且本質上很有趣，我不知道我是不是這樣的人。

So it's an uphill battle.

是以，這是一場艱苦的戰鬥。

Knives out.

拔刀

Stop! Stop!

停下！停下

Stop! Stop!

停下！停下

Hugh Drysdale.

休-德賴斯代爾

Ransom.

贖金

Call me Ransom.

叫我蘭森

It's my middle name.

這是我的中間名。

I mean, I love

我是說，我愛

A Murder Mystery.

謀殺之謎

I love an ensemble.

我喜歡合奏。

I love the majority.

我喜歡大多數人。

I mean, that cast is just phenomenal.

我是說，演員陣容實在是太強大了。

And Ryan Johnson, again, another director who really knows what he wants.

瑞安-約翰遜，又是一位真正知道自己想要什麼的導演。

And it was a role that I felt confident in.

我對這個角色充滿信心。

It was an intimidating role just because a lot of the characters are colorful and you don't quite know how far to go and how grounded do I make this.

這是一個令人生畏的角色，因為很多角色都是豐富多彩的，你不知道該走多遠，也不知道該如何讓這個角色更接地氣。

And again, you let Ryan guide you.

同樣，你也要讓瑞安來引導你。

But it was just a dream job.

但這只是一份夢寐以求的工作。

Just had a blast.

玩得很開心

With a good lawyer, which I have,

我有一個好律師、

I'll be out in no time.

我馬上就出來

And then you'll see just how much hell

然後你就會知道，地獄有多可怕

I can wreak on your life, you vicious little bitch.

我可以毀掉你的生活，你這個惡毒的小賤人。

Oh, that was a great scene.

哦，這一幕太精彩了

I didn't love getting the puke in my face.

我不喜歡把嘔吐物弄到臉上。

Oh!

哦！

Ah!

啊！

What the shit?

搞什麼鬼？

Oh!

哦！

That means she's lying!

這說明她在撒謊！

Yeah, man, we know.

我們知道

I have such a love for Michael Shannon.

我非常喜歡邁克爾-香農。

I just think he's the funniest guy.

我只是覺得他是最有趣的人。

I don't think anyone realizes how he's so dry and so sharp.

我想沒有人意識到，他是如此幹練，如此犀利。

And he knows he's funny, too.

他也知道自己很有趣。

He'll make these, like, you know, kind of quiet side comments and just have the littlest smirk on his face so that when we were doing that scene where he's shoving the cookies in my face and just screaming.

他會發表一些，你知道的，安靜的評論，臉上帶著最輕微的傻笑，所以當我們在拍他把餅乾塞到我臉上並尖叫的那場戲時。

How about some more cookies, you?

要不要再來點餅乾？

You want some more cookies?

還要餅乾嗎？

Great.

好極了

Hey, maybe Harlan left you a cold glass of milk in his will, asshole.

也許哈倫在遺囑裡給你留了杯牛奶 混蛋

Took all of me to not break.

我用盡全身力氣才沒摔倒。

He's just, he's very committed, absolutely hilarious, so that might be my favorite scene.

他非常投入，絕對搞笑，所以那可能是我最喜歡的一幕。

Snowpiercer.

冰雪奇緣

When I first read the script,

當我第一次讀劇本時

I didn't quite get it.

我不太明白。

I was like, so what's, you know, whenever it's a world, a movie that's world-building, you know, you're creating a completely separate environment, there's just kind of a conceit that you have to say, okay, so everyone just accepts this, this is just how it is, no one's kind of outraged that this is the structure, that's just the norm, okay.

我當時就想，那是什麼，你知道，每當一個世界，一部正在構建世界的電影，你知道，你正在創造一個完全獨立的環境，有一種自負，你必須說，好吧，所以每個人都接受這一點，這就是事實，沒有人會因為這是結構而感到憤怒，這就是常規，好吧。

You kind of have to decide what part of your brain do you spend time on wrapping your head around?

你必須決定把時間花在大腦的哪個部分？

Do you go the intimate road and just kind of make it about the character?

你會不會走親民路線，只是以角色為中心？

Do you try and make it about what it took for that society to level into that place?

你是否試圖讓它講述社會發展到這一地步所付出的代價？

It's a challenge, but you get to watch

這是一項挑戰，但你可以觀看

Tilda Swinton's in the movie, and you get to watch her approach to this larger-than-life character.

蒂爾達-斯文頓出演了這部電影，你將看到她如何演繹這個超凡脫俗的角色。

Precisely 74% of you shall die.

你們中將有 74% 的人死去。

My friend, you suffer from the misplaced optimism of the doomed.

我的朋友，你患上了註定要失敗的錯誤樂觀主義。

Again, we had some good rehearsal on that project as well, and Director Bong is such a visionary.

同樣，我們在這個項目上也進行了很好的排練，奉導演就是這樣一位有遠見的人。

When you're working with someone that knows exactly what they want, even if it's not exactly the way you saw it, it breeds trust, and as an actor, that's the most important thing, to trust the director.

當你與一個非常清楚自己想要什麼的人合作時，即使與你的想法不盡相同，也會產生信任感，而作為演員，最重要的就是要信任導演。

Otherwise, you're playing two different characters at the same time, and you're playing two different characters at the same time.

否則，你就會同時扮演兩個不同的角色，而且是同時扮演兩個不同的角色。

Otherwise, you're playing defense.

否則，你就是在防守。

Otherwise, you're like, all right, this first take,

否則，你就會想，好吧，這是第一次拍攝、

I'll do this, just so I can at least protect that.

我會這麼做的，這樣我至少可以保護它。

Then I'll try this, but I don't want to try that because I don't know if they know how to use that take, and any take I give them could be used against me.

那我就試試這個，但我不想試那個，因為我不知道他們是否知道如何使用這個方法，而我給他們的任何方法都可能被用來對付我。

When you have a director who is so convinced of what their vision is, that's when you say, great, when you say jump,

當導演對自己的願景深信不疑時，你就會說，太好了，你可以跳了、

I'll say how high.

我會說有多高。

We had those cars on gimbals, these little, they just do a subtle movement, so a lot of boat legs at the end of the day.

我們把這些車裝在萬向節上，這些小車只是做微妙的移動，所以一天下來有很多船腿。

You kind of are wobbly getting back to your hotel room.