She does podcasts, she writes books, she's still active, all at 103 years old.

她做播客、寫書，103 歲高齡依然活躍。

Recently, I had the chance to sit down with Gladys and ask her a series of questions about how to live a long, healthy, and happy life.

最近，我有機會與格拉迪斯坐在一起，向她提出了一系列關於如何健康長壽、快樂生活的問題。

And today, I'm going to share her best lessons for living a more fulfilling life.

今天，我將與大家分享她為讓生活更充實而總結的最佳經驗。

How old are you?

你多大了？

103.

103.

What does it feel like to be 103?

103 歲是什麼感覺？

It's awesome.

太棒了

I never know what's going to happen.

我永遠不知道會發生什麼。

Things have happened that I could never have dreamed of.

發生了我做夢也想不到的事情。

And the most important moment of my life is this one.

我一生中最重要的時刻就是這一刻。

What do you think has contributed to you getting to almost 103 years old and still being as active and healthy as you are?

您認為是什麼原因讓您活到近 103 歲高齡，還能保持如此活躍和健康？

Being able to let go of the stuff that doesn't matter.

能夠放下那些無關緊要的東西。

My mother was, I guess, my greatest teacher.

我想，母親是我最偉大的老師。

My mother called it kuch perwani, doesn't matter.

我母親叫它 "kuch perwani"，無所謂。

You let it go.

你就讓它去吧。

You take what's coming towards you and just, you know, you can hang on to it and punch things around it or take it in your hand and just let it drop and say kuch perwani or it doesn't matter.

你可以抓住迎面而來的東西，然後，你知道，你可以緊緊抓住它，對著它周圍的東西猛擊一拳，或者把它拿在手裡，讓它掉在地上，然後說 kuch perwani，或者這並不重要。

What are some things that you think reduce our lifespan?

您認為哪些事情會縮短我們的壽命？

It's getting stuck and not having some sleep to get up for, not reaching for life.

它被困住了，睡不著覺，起不來床，無法達到生活的目標。

If you're reaching for life, life reaches back to you.

如果你向生活伸手，生活也會向你伸手。

But if you're not, you're stuck.

但如果你不這樣做，你就會陷入困境。

Every day having something to reach for is so important.

每天都有所追求是非常重要的。

That's powerful, right?

很強大吧？

Because a lot of us have dreams but don't place importance on it inside of us.

因為我們很多人都有夢想，但內心並不重視它。

A lot of us don't have any meaning or purpose attached to what we're doing.

我們中的很多人對自己所做的事情沒有任何意義或目的。

We have chosen to do certain things for miscellaneous reasons, none of which, for the most part, have anything to do with purpose or meaning.

我們出於各種原因選擇做某些事情，其中大部分都與目的或意義無關。

And so we're kind of sifting through life and we're not happy.

是以，我們在生活中摸爬滾打，並不快樂。

And that's the reality that we have.

這就是我們的現實。

So you say that an answer to this could be in community.

所以你說，答案可能就在社區裡。

It's important for me to have a close community who are the ones that we can share our dreams with.

對我來說，擁有一個親密的社區非常重要，因為我們可以與他們分享夢想。

The one we can really reach to our true humanity with.

我們才能真正接觸到真正的人性。

We're not alone in this world of ours.

在這個世界上，我們並不孤單。

We're not alone and we recognize that.

我們並不孤單，我們認識到這一點。

There are people who are suffering.

有些人正在遭受痛苦。

You can get caught up with the suffering, but you can also be a light for that person that is suffering and do something that might make them laugh.

你可以沉浸在苦難中，但也可以為苦難中的人點亮一盞燈，做一些可能會讓他們開懷大笑的事情。

Or, I don't know, it's not my job to tell you what to do.

或者，我不知道，我的工作不是告訴你該做什麼。

It's your job to find out what to do.

你的工作就是找出該怎麼做。

Because you have it within you what gives you your juice.

因為你體內有它，它能給你帶來活力。

You found it because you connected with other people and you're doing the thing that makes you.

你找到了它，因為你與其他人建立了聯繫，而且你正在做的事情讓你成為了自己。

You wouldn't be doing this if you weren't in bliss when you're doing it.

如果你在做這件事時不感到幸福，你就不會這樣做。

Yeah, but why work so much doing something that you're not passionate about?

是啊，但為什麼要花那麼多精力去做自己並不熱衷的事情呢？

I mean, I guess that's the eternal question that everyone's asking themselves.

我的意思是，我想這是每個人都在問自己的永恆問題。

The people who are suffering with that, my heart aches for them.

我為那些是以而痛苦的人們感到心痛。

That they are stuck, but you don't need to be stuck.

他們被困住了，但你不需要被困住。

You know, you just have to have somebody that can reach out to you or you could reach out to somebody who's finding something that makes your heart sing, that will allow another person's heart to sing.

你知道，你只需要有一個人可以向你伸出援手，或者你可以向某個人伸出援手，讓他找到能讓你的心歌唱的東西，讓另一個人的心也能歌唱。

I'm curious on your thoughts.

我很想知道你的想法。

Why do you think that so many people in their 20s are so stressed and unhappy?

你認為為什麼很多 20 多歲的人壓力如此之大，如此不快樂？

Because we, in our older years, are looking at life as something that you have to get over.

因為上了年紀的我們，把生活看成是你必須克服的事情。

It's a drag.

真煩人

It's hard.

這很難。

And we present life to our younger people as drudgery.

我們向年輕人展示的生活是苦役。

And then we wonder why the children are really hurting so badly.

然後我們就會想，為什麼孩子們真的會受到如此嚴重的傷害？

Because we've dropped the ball.

因為我們掉鏈子了。

If we keep on understanding that life grows, you don't just get over life, you know.

如果我們能繼續理解生命的成長，你就不會輕易放棄生命。

If you live through it and understand the lesson that that particular process, then life becomes amazing.

如果你經歷了這一過程，並理解了其中的道理，那麼生活就會變得精彩紛呈。

But for example, when you graduate university now, the next step is get a job.

但舉個例子，現在大學畢業後，下一步就是找工作。

And basically, you're in your early 20s.

基本上，你才二十出頭。

You're tasked with getting a job.

你的任務是找到一份工作。

More often than not, you know, for most people, that job is a desk job.

要知道，對大多數人來說，那份工作往往是文職工作。

And so now you're spending the vast majority of your still youth, when your brain is still developing, you're spending most of that at a cubicle.

是以，當你的大腦還在發育的時候，你的絕大多數青春時光都是在格子間裡度過的。

How do we navigate that?

我們該如何應對？

I've kind of come up with five L's, okay.

我想出了五個 "L"，好吧。

First two are life and love.

前兩個是生命和愛。

They have to work together.

他們必須齊心協力。

They can't work without each other.

兩者缺一不可。

So life and love are essential.

是以，生命和愛是必不可少的。

And see, I think we've forgotten that.

你看，我覺得我們都忘了這一點。

And we have not taught our children about love.

我們沒有教給孩子愛。

And a lot of these kids just don't know anything about love.

很多孩子根本不懂愛。

The third L is laughter.

第三個 L 是笑。

That laughter is something that is inherent within us.

笑是我們與生俱來的。

And as we allow ourselves to laugh, we gain happiness and we gain joy.

當我們允許自己笑的時候，我們就會收穫幸福和快樂。

We find that.

我們發現

It's the love that brings that into it.

這就是愛的力量。

You know, when I grew up in the jungles of North India, the little Indian kids wanted to, they rubbed my arms because they wanted me to get that white stuff off.

你知道，當我在北印度的叢林中長大時，那些印度小孩想，他們搓我的胳膊，因為他們想讓我把那些白色的東西弄掉。

You know, so that I would look normal.

你知道，這樣我看起來才正常。

So laughter without love is cruel, it's mean.

所以，沒有愛的歡笑是殘酷的，是卑鄙的。

But with love, it's happiness and joy.

但有了愛，就有了幸福和快樂。

And the fourth L is labor.

第四個 L 是勞動力。

Labor without love, which is what you're talking about, is drudgery.

沒有愛的勞動，也就是你所說的勞動，是一種苦役。

You have to go to work.

你必須去工作。

You have to get yourself into that spot and become who and what you have to be.

你必須讓自己進入狀態，成為你必須成為的人。

But labor with love is bliss.

但有愛的勞動是幸福的。

It's why you do what you do.

這就是你為什麼要這麼做的原因。

It's why I do what I do.

這就是我為什麼要這麼做。

It's what makes the singer sing.

這是歌手歌唱的動力。

It's what makes the artist paint.

這就是藝術家作畫的動力。

It's that inner core of our being that knows what that is.

我們內心的核心知道那是什麼。

And then the fifth one is listening.

第五個是傾聽。

Listening without love is empty sound.

沒有愛的傾聽是空洞的聲音。

You can hear it and doesn't mean nothing.

你能聽到它，並不意味著什麼。

It's just ding dong, whatever.

這只是叮咚，管它呢。

But listening with love is understanding.

但是，用愛傾聽就是理解。

How do you have the instinct that when something negative happens to you, you do think positively?

當你遇到消極的事情時，你如何擁有積極思考的本能？

How do we make that a natural instinct?

我們該如何讓這成為一種自然本能？

We're looking over our shoulder into the darkness back there instead of forward into the light.

我們在黑暗中眺望，而不是在光明中前行。

And if we're going to keep looking that way, we're going to get a stiff neck.

如果我們繼續這樣看下去，我們的脖子就會僵硬。

And boy, it's going to be hard to see anything else.

而且，孩子們很難再看到其他東西了。

We need to keep moving and shifting and reaching for the light.

我們需要不斷前進，不斷轉變，不斷追求光明。

When I was just reaching 70 and my husband asked for a divorce, life had totally shattered at that point.

在我剛滿 70 歲的時候，我的丈夫要求離婚，生活在那一刻完全破碎了。

It was worth nothing.

它一文不值。

I grabbed the little glimpse of what was there.

我抓住了那一瞥。

There wasn't much light there, I'm telling you.

我告訴你，那裡沒有多少光亮。

It was darkness.

那是一片黑暗。

But all of a sudden, I paused long enough to take a deep breath and say, OK, I have to do something.

但突然間，我停頓了很久，深吸一口氣，說：好吧，我必須做點什麼。

Life is so amazing.

生命是如此奇妙。

Every day teaches me something new.

每天都有新的收穫。

Well, because you have that attitude, right?

因為你有這種態度，對嗎？

Yeah, I'm looking for it.

是的，我正在找。

If you could give one piece of advice to anybody younger than you on living a good life, a fulfilling, meaningful life, what would you say?

如果你能給比你年輕的人一個建議，讓他們過上美好的生活、充實而有意義的生活，你會說什麼？

Find what you love and love it to pieces.

找到你的所愛，並愛得死去活來。

If you have the dream of living a life as full and happy as that of Gladys's, we have something for you.

如果你夢想過上像格拉迪斯那樣充實而幸福的生活，我們為你準備了一些東西。

Over the last set of years, we've worked tirelessly to interview thousands of people older than us to try to figure out what all of the secrets and keys to living a more fulfilling life could be.

在過去的幾年裡，我們不知疲倦地採訪了成千上萬比我們年長的人，試圖找出讓生活更充實的祕訣和關鍵。

What I've learned personally is that the one thing everyone needs in order to live their best life is a strong community.

我個人的體會是，每個人要過上最美好的生活，都需要一個強大的社區。

So that is why we created a paid community called Sprout University, where like minded people of all ages from all over the world are meeting each other, making friends with each other and pushing each other to pursue their biggest dreams.

是以，我們創建了一個名為 "萌芽大學 "的付費社區，在這個社區裡，來自世界各地、不同年齡、志同道合的人們相互認識、相互交友，並推動彼此追求最大的夢想。

Inside this paid community, not only do you get a series of weekly live calls, you also get a set of courses, courses that will walk you through the exact steps that you need to take to go from where you are today to where you would like to be.

在這個付費社區中，你不僅可以獲得一系列每週一次的實時通話，還可以獲得一套課程，這些課程將指導你完成從現在的位置到你想要的位置所需要採取的確切步驟。

We only have a very limited spots available in this community, so if you're interested in being part of the community, click the link in the description to learn more.

我們的社區名額非常有限，如果您有興趣成為社區的一員，請點擊描述中的鏈接瞭解更多資訊。