President Trump at Bedminster yesterday. It was wide-ranging, and he talked about what he's looking for in a VP, the state of the economy, and even reveals he plans to cut one federal department. Take a look. Let's talk about vice president. Pete and I have gone off the wall.

特朗普總統昨天在貝德明斯特發表講話。談話內容廣泛，他談到了他在尋找的副總統人選、經濟狀況，甚至透露了他計劃削減一個聯邦部門。請看我們來談談副總統。皮特和我的話題有點離譜

We've talked about historically presidents pick vice presidents based upon what states they can deliver. We've talked about the fact that you're looking for, it seems to be, that you might be looking for a fighter. Let's just ask you directly, what are you looking for in a vice president? So you always have to say, and I mean it, is if something should happen to the president, you have to get somebody who can be a good president, okay? And I think you have to say that.

我們說過，歷來總統挑選副總統，都是看他們能在哪些方面有所建樹。我們已經談到了一個事實，即你正在尋找，似乎是，你可能正在尋找一個鬥士。讓我們直接問你，你想找什麼樣的副總統？你總是說，我是認真的，如果總統出了什麼事，你必須找一個能當好總統的人，好嗎？我認為你必須這麼說。

Then the second thing, I want somebody that can selfishly help me to get elected.

其次，我希望有人能自私地幫助我當選。

But typically, if you look over the years, look back a hundred years, it's almost never that a vice president helps. I mean, you're out there all by yourself. You really are. There's a day or two of, you know, hoopla, you picked a vice president, then it goes back. But it's almost never, it's almost never helped. Actually, the one person that helped, I guess you could say, is Lyndon Johnson, because he was a political, real political animal, and he sort of helped a little bit politically with Daley, etc., etc., I guess. But, you know, that's a theory anyway.

但通常情況下，如果你回顧一下百年曆史，副總統幾乎從來沒有幫過忙。我的意思是，你一個人在那裡。你真的是。有一兩天，你知道，喧囂， 你選了一個副總統， 然後它回去。但它幾乎從來沒有， 它幾乎從來沒有幫助。事實上，林登-約翰遜（Lyndon Johnson）可以說是幫了大忙，因為他是個政治人物，真正的政治動物。不過，你知道，這只是一種理論。

But typically, a vice president doesn't help. So I would say somebody that you can get along with, somebody that can help you get elected, somebody that can be, and first is somebody that can be a very good president. Debates coming up on June 27th.

但通常情況下，副總統幫不上忙。所以我會說，你可以和某人相處融洽，某人可以幫助你當選，某人可以，首先是某人可以成為一個非常好的總統。6月27日即將舉行辯論

How do you prepare for that? And what's it, I mean, you've stated it, Joe Biden's in a different place. How do you, what's your strategy coming into it? So debates are interesting because I had never debated before. And then I debated a lot on the first, you know, in 2016, I had like 14 debates or something. And, and it's been good. I mean, it's been good for me. It's been worked.

你是如何準備的？我的意思是，你已經說過了，喬-拜登在不同的地方。你的策略是什麼？辯論很有趣，因為我以前從未辯論過。在2016年的第一次競選中，我進行了14場辯論。而且，這很好。我的意思是，這對我很好。很有效

I think I won every debate. But I never had, you know, it was very interesting. In 2016, I said, who are these people I'm debating? Half of them I never heard of, because, you know, they're governors from someplace or they're senators. I said, start with Ted Cruz. And they say, well, he's the national debate champion. He's the this, he's the that.

我想我贏得了每一場辯論。但我從來沒有，你知道，這非常有趣。2016年，我說，我辯論的這些人是誰？他們中的一半我都沒聽說過，因為，你知道，他們是某個地方的州長，或者是參議員。我說，從特德-克魯茲開始。他們說 他是全國辯論冠軍他是這個 他是那個

And I said, that's not good news. You know, that's not good. I mean, I could have done with a little bit less, maybe I should have started with somebody else. But they were all, you know, they're talented politicians. That's what I mean, for the most part, they're politicians.

我說，這可不是好消息。你知道，這不是好消息我的意思是，我可以做 少了一點， 也許我應該開始 與別人。但他們都是，你知道，他們都是有才華的政治家。這就是我的意思，在大多數情況下，他們是政治家。

Very interesting. In running for president, 92% were politicians and 8% were generals, not admirals, right? Generals. And that's it. So when, you know, all of a sudden I'm going in as a business guy and different kind of a guy. But we had great four years. We were very successful, very — I mean, the things, we had the largest tax cuts in history. We had the largest regulation cuts in history. We had the best economy in history. We rebuilt our military. We had no wars.

非常有趣在競選總統的候選人中，92%是政客，8%是將軍，不是海軍上將，對嗎？將軍就是這樣所以，當你知道，突然之間， 我作為一個商人和不同類型的傢伙。但我們度過了美好的四年我們非常成功，非常--我是說，那些事情，我們有了歷史上最大規模的減稅。我們有史上最大規模的法規削減。我們有了歷史上最好的經濟。我們重建了軍隊。我們沒有戰爭。

I defeated ISIS. But since you've been out of office, things have deteriorated. And we've talked a little bit about that. At a level that's not even believable. And I think most people agree with you on that. The amount of money, which in terms of the economy, we're $34 trillion in debt. We've printed money we don't have that's led to massive inflation. How do you change that and turn that around to average

我打敗了 ISIS。但自從你卸任後，情況每況愈下。我們已經談過一點了惡化到令人難以置信的程度我想大多數人都同意你的觀點。就經濟而言，我們的債務高達34萬億美元。我們印了我們沒有的錢，導致了大規模的通貨膨脹。你如何改變這種狀況，將其轉變為平均水平？

Americans out there who are struggling every single day, worse and worse under Joe Biden's economy? So we were doing great. We were energy independent. We were soon going to be energy dominant. I didn't want the Russian pipeline to be built because of the fact. Very simple.

在喬-拜登的經濟政策下，美國人每天都在苦苦掙扎，每況愈下？所以我們做得很好。我們能源獨立。我們很快就會成為能源霸主。正因為如此，我才不想修建俄羅斯輸油管道。很簡單

I wanted to supply them with the energy. The whole thing was all — we're going to make a fortune.

我想為他們提供能量。整件事就是--我們要發大財了。

We have more liquid gold than any country in the world, including Saudi Arabia and including — and then I do ANWR in Alaska, which is the biggest find. It's as big as Saudi Arabia. Some people say it's bigger. And Biden closes it up in his first week. The first Department of Interior, the woman who — the person in charge closed it in her first day in office.

我們比世界上任何國家都擁有更多的液體黃金，包括沙特阿拉伯，包括--然後我在阿拉斯加的ANWR，這是最大的發現。它和沙特阿拉伯一樣大。有人說更大拜登第一週就把它關閉了第一個內政部的女負責人 在上任的第一天就把它關閉了

Ronald Reagan tried to get it. He couldn't get it. Everybody tried to get it. Bush.

羅納德-里根曾試圖得到它。他沒能成功。每個人都試過布什

I got it. And they closed it up. But I'm going to reinstitute it very quickly. It'll happen very fast. But think of it. So we were rocking and rolling. We were energy independent. We were soon going to be double the size. We were in third place and even beyond that when I took over. We were leading. You have to see a graph. Russia, Saudi Arabia above them, Russia second. We're third. And then we go like this. I mean, we were — we were going to be energy dominant. We were doing things. The way you have to solve it is through growth. And we were going to have to move.

我拿到了他們把它關閉了但我很快就會恢復的會很快的但想想看所以我們是搖擺和滾動。我們能源獨立我們的規模很快就會擴大一倍當我接手的時候，我們排在第三甚至更靠前我們處於領先地位你得看看圖表俄羅斯，沙特阿拉伯在他們之上，俄羅斯第二。我們第三然後我們就這樣了。我的意思是，我們曾經是能源主導者。我們正在做的事情。你必須通過增長來解決這個問題。我們必須行動起來

But also cutting, right, Mr. President?

但也要削減，對嗎，總統先生？

Yes, growth and cutting. The problem I had is we were starting to really rock and roll. We had the greatest economy ever. Then we got hit with COVID. And if I didn't throw money at COVID, we would have had a depression like in 1929. And if I don't win, you're going to have a depression like in 1929. You know, one of the — I'll just say Scott — one of the greatest analysts on Wall Street considered maybe the best. He said the only reason the stock market says is because they think Trump is going to win.

是的，增長和削減。我遇到的問題是，我們開始了真正的搖滾樂。我們擁有有史以來最輝煌的經濟。然後我們被COVID打擊瞭如果我不向COVID砸錢 我們就會像1929年那樣陷入大蕭條如果我贏不了，你們就會有1929年那樣的大蕭條你知道嗎，有一位--我就說斯科特--華爾街最偉大的分析師之一，也許被認為是最好的分析師。他說，股市上漲的唯一原因是他們認為特朗普會贏。

Listen, I think that one of your strongest points is that you're a businessman. And people love that you ran this country like a business. And I believe that if you got an office, you will get the oil pipes going again. We'll get energy going. And I believe that we will grow.

聽著，我認為你的強項之一就是你是個商人。人們喜歡你像做生意一樣管理國家我相信，如果你上任，你會讓石油管道重新運轉起來。我們將獲得能源。我相信我們會發展

But it's really hard when you're a politician to cut. Your friend,

但如果你是政客，就很難割捨。你的朋友

Mille, in Argentina, he cut whole agencies. And now they went from 25 percent growth per month in inflation down to 8 percent per month. So it works. Are you willing to make —

在阿根廷，米勒削減了整個機構。現在，他們的通貨膨脹率從每月增長25%降至每月8%。所以這是有效果的。你是否願意

No, you know he's MAGA. You know that.

不，你知道他是MAGA。你知道的

I know he is. He's my friend. That's why I brought him.

我知道他是他是我的朋友所以我才帶他來

He's my biggest fan.

他是我最忠實的粉絲

Make Argentina great again. It works out perfectly, right?

讓阿根廷再次偉大一切都很完美，不是嗎？

No, that's what he calls it. He has hats. Make Argentina great again.

不，他是這麼叫的。他有帽子讓阿根廷再次偉大

But he has — but he's cut agencies. Are you willing to make those kinds of dramatic cuts? Because I really think our — we have young kids, all of us. I think their futures are on the line. I mean, as he said, $34 trillion in debt. I think that means we're paying almost a trillion dollars in interest.

但他削減了機構。你願意做出這種大幅削減嗎？因為我真的認為 我們都有年幼的孩子我認為他們的未來岌岌可危。我的意思是，正如他所說，34萬億美元的債務。我認為這意味著我們要支付近萬億美元的利息。

I'll give you an example.

我給你舉個例子。

Is it every month?

是每個月嗎？

I'll give you — you mentioned —

我給你--你提到了--

Every year, every year, every year.

年復一年，年復一年。

You mentioned the kids. So we're going to cut the Department of Education, let it be run locally.

你提到了孩子們。所以我們要削減教育部，讓它由地方管理。

We have this mess —

我們有這個爛攤子

And the Department of Education?

教育部呢？

Other than to have a little, tiny coordination. You know, it would be nice to make sure that everybody is teaching English. You know, let them learn English, OK?

除了有一點小小的協調之外。你知道，最好能確保每個人都在教英語。你知道，讓他們學英語，好嗎？

I love this.

我喜歡這個。

But no, no, we're cutting the Department of Education. I was ready to do it before. And then, again, the COVID really — if we didn't throw money at that, you would have had a depression.

但不，不，我們要削減教育部。我之前就準備這麼做了再說一遍，COVID真的--如果我們不把錢投到那上面，你就會遇到經濟蕭條。

We would have been in a depression. And when I got out, the stock market was higher than when just before COVID came in.

我們會陷入經濟蕭條。而當我離開時，股市比 COVID 剛剛進入時還要高。

So that will be the first thing?

所以這將是第一件事？

That will be the first department you're going to cut?

這將是你要削減的第一個部門？

That's going to happen immediately.

這將立即發生。

We're going to do, like, Department of Interior. There's so many things you can do.

我們要做的，比如，內政部。你能做的事太多了

One of the things that's so bad for us is the environmental agencies.

對我們來說最糟糕的事情之一就是環保機構。

They make it impossible to do anything. And so, in Louisiana, they had these massive refineries that — LNG plants, but massive, essentially, refineries.

他們讓我們什麼都做不了。是以，在路易斯安那州，他們有這些大規模的煉油廠，液化天然氣廠，但本質上是大規模的煉油廠。

Fourteen, fifteen years they've been trying to get permits.

十四、十五年來，他們一直在努力獲得許可證。

I got it done in one day. One day I got the permit.

我一天就搞定了。一天之內我就拿到了許可證。

Don't tell anybody, please.

請不要告訴任何人

I got it — I didn't know who the hell was doing it.

我明白了--我不知道到底是誰幹的。

In one case, Japan was putting — and, by the way, they're like $20 billion.

有一次，日本投入了 200 億美元。

That was a massive — these are like the Empire State Building laid down times two on its side. All pipes — I mean, it's unbelievable — on the coast in Louisiana.

那是一個巨大的 - 這些就像帝國大廈的兩倍。在路易斯安那州的海岸上，所有的管道--我是說，真是難以置信。

And I got those things — the first one I got done in, like, 24 hours.

我在 24 小時內完成了第一件事。

They worked on it for 14 years.

他們為此工作了 14 年。

And it was terrible, I mean, what they were doing.

我是說，他們的所作所為太可怕了。

The environmental agencies have stopped — they stop you from doing business in this country.

環保機構已經停止了--他們阻止你在這個國家做生意。

And we did a great job.

我們做得很好。