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  • Etsy, the global e-commerce platform known for unique and

    全球電子商務平臺 Etsy 以其獨特的產品和服務而聞名。

  • handmade goods, reported its highest ever annual revenue of

    手工藝品,報告的年收入達到了有史以來最高的

  • $2.7 billion in 2023.

    2023 年為 27 億美元。

  • But that's not the full picture.

    但這還不是全部。

  • Its gross merchandise sales, or the total value of goods

    商品銷售總額,即商品的總價值

  • sold on Etsy, declined in the same period, falling flat for

    同期,在 Etsy 出售的商品數量有所下降,其中

  • the second year in a row.

    連續第二年。

  • It stocks its more than 70% lower than its 2021 high, and

    其股價比 2021 年的高點低了 70% 以上,而且

  • first quarter 2024 earnings results didn't look much

    2024 年第一季度財報看起來並不理想

  • better.

    更好。

  • Etsy's consolidated results, while within our guidance

    Etsy 的綜合業績在我們的指導範圍之內

  • range, were not where we wanted them to be.

    但我們發現,這些問題並沒有達到我們的預期。

  • After the big increase in both buyers and spending per buyer

    在買家和每位買家的花費都大幅增加之後

  • during Covid, it looks like they've hit a wall and you

    在 Covid 期間,他們似乎碰壁了,而你

  • basically have a company that has not grown in two years.

    基本上,有一家公司已經兩年沒有增長了。

  • Some longtime sellers are partly blaming CEO Josh

    一些長期銷售商部分歸咎於首席執行官喬希

  • Silverman, saying his focus on profits has pushed the

    西爾弗曼說,他對利潤的關注推動了

  • company away from its vision, allowing counterfeits and mass

    公司偏離了自己的願景,讓假冒偽劣產品和大規模的

  • produced items to thrive, demoralizing artists and

    這些項目的興旺,打擊了藝術家們的士氣,也削弱了他們的能力。

  • buyers.

    買家

  • Competing with people who are generating art via artificial

    與通過人工製造藝術品的人競爭

  • intelligence. Now I can't compete.

    情報。現在我競爭不過了。

  • It's just junk. A lot of it.

    這只是垃圾。很多都是

  • You're just going to be a slightly more expensive

    你只是稍微貴一點而已

  • Amazon. That seems like a terrible business plan.

    亞馬遜這似乎是一個糟糕的商業計劃。

  • With discretionary spending down a first quarter 2024 miss

    可支配支出下降,2024 年第一季度未達預期

  • in both merchandise sales and profits, and an acknowledgment

    商品銷售額和利潤,並承認

  • of poor execution by its CEO, Etsy's future is uncertain.

    由於首席執行官執行不力,Etsy 的前景並不明朗。

  • It's a public company.

    這是一家上市公司。

  • Its job is to return value to shareholders.

    它的工作就是為股東創造價值。

  • At the end of the day, they need to be able to sell things

    歸根結底,他們需要能夠賣出東西

  • that people want.

    人們想要的。

  • When Etsy first came on the market in 2005, it was a

    2005 年,當 Etsy 首次出現在市場上時,它還只是一個

  • revolutionary idea.

    革命性的想法。

  • People who loved arts and crafts finally had a place to

    熱愛藝術和手工藝的人們終於有了一個可以

  • buy those things all the time and get connected with sellers

    經常買這些東西,並與賣家建立聯繫

  • and artisans and artists who maybe they would have never

    以及工匠和藝術家,他們也許永遠不會

  • encountered before.

    以前遇到過。

  • Etsy's founder and then CEO, Rob Kalin built the platform

    Etsy 創始人兼首席執行官羅布-卡林建立了這個平臺

  • to empower artisans.

    增強工匠的能力。

  • His vision was that Etsy could influence society in a

    他的願景是,Etsy 可以在以下方面影響社會

  • way that people would think more consciously about the

    讓人們更有意識地思考

  • products they chose.

    他們選擇的產品。

  • How do you get from just doing it as more of a hobby, to

    你是如何從僅僅把它當作一種愛好,發展到

  • organizing this to the point where you can actually make a

    將其組織起來,使您能夠真正做出一個

  • living?

    生活?

  • The virtual storefront also enabled a new kind of

    虛擬店面還實現了一種新的

  • revolution.

    革命。

  • These small businesses, these local artists, suddenly had

    這些小企業、當地藝術家突然有了

  • the ability to connect with buyers all over the world.

    能夠與世界各地的買家建立聯繫。

  • And this was huge.

    而這是巨大的。

  • I mean, it was an opportunity for them to grow their brand,

    我的意思是,這是他們發展品牌的一個機會、

  • grow their sales.

    銷售增長。

  • Nicole Aline Legault and Chiarra Lohr are just two of

    Nicole Aline Legault 和 Chiarra Lohr 只是其中的兩位。

  • the many artists who joined Etsy to sell more of their

    許多藝術家加入 Etsy,以銷售更多他們的作品。

  • work. Legault has been there since 2009.

    工作Legault 自 2009 年以來一直在那裡工作。

  • Everyone that I knew was opening up a little shop

    我認識的每個人都在開小店

  • because it was one of the only places that was offering

    因為它是唯一提供

  • this platform and template.

    這個平臺和模板。

  • It was very about the sellers.

    這非常與賣家有關。

  • They were really driving the traffic and making the site

    他們真正推動了流量,使網站

  • what it was and creating a community.

    並創建一個社區。

  • Transaction fees were initially low.

    交易費用最初很低。

  • Etsy received B Corporation status in 2012, and was one of

    Etsy 於 2012 年獲得 B 公司資格,併成為以下公司之一

  • the first companies with that certification to complete an

    首批獲得該認證的公司完成了

  • IPO, which it did in 2015.

    在 2015 年進行了首次公開募股。

  • At the time, it was valued at $1.8 billion, but the cracks

    當時,它的估值為 18 億美元,但裂縫

  • in Etsy's foundation were already forming.

    的基礎已經形成。

  • Kalin stepped down as CEO in 2011 for a second time.

    2011 年,卡林第二次卸任首席執行官。

  • As competition was stiffening, the next CEO made

    由於競爭日趨激烈,下一任首席執行官做出了以下決定

  • a big change in 2013, allowing artists to use

    2013 年的一個重大變化是,允許藝術家使用

  • outside manufacturers to produce their designs.

    外部製造商來生產他們的設計。

  • The term handmade was getting looser.

    手工製作一詞越來越鬆散。

  • And in this new public arena, the company was beholden to

    在這個新的公共舞臺上,該公司必須

  • financially focused shareholders with a laser

    專注於財務的股東,以脈衝光

  • focus on growth.

    注重增長。

  • Etsy's stock lost more than 70% of its value its first

    Etsy 的股價在上市初期下跌了 70% 以上。

  • full year as a public company.

    作為上市公司的一整年。

  • From the beginning, Etsy wasn't profitable.

    從一開始,Etsy 就沒有盈利。

  • You know, when it went public, it was deeply in the

    要知道,當它上市的時候,它還深陷在

  • red. This wasn't uncommon for e-commerce companies.

    紅。這在電子商務公司中並不罕見。

  • It's still not necessarily uncommon for disruptive new

    顛覆性的新技術仍不一定罕見。

  • startups and things like that. But over time, you

    創業公司之類的東西。但隨著時間的推移,你

  • needed to kind of change that.

    需要改變這種狀況。

  • Vendors, too, were unhappy for different reasons.

    供應商也因不同原因而感到不滿。

  • There's been a massive culture clash at Etsy.

    Etsy 發生了大規模的文化衝突。

  • It's something that really started after the company went

    這其實是在公司成立之後才開始的。

  • public. It's happening internally with employees who

    公眾。內部發生的員工

  • had been there since the beginning, had kind of seen

    他從一開始就在那裡,看到了

  • this company as, you know, different.

    這家公司,你知道,與眾不同。

  • Yet another CEO was appointed in 2017.

    2017 年又任命了一位首席執行官。

  • Josh Silverman made both short and long term changes,

    喬希-西爾弗曼做出了短期和長期的改變、

  • laying off 22% of Etsy's workforce that year and later

    當年裁掉了 Etsy 22% 的員工,後來又裁掉了

  • pushing through transaction fee hikes and shipping fees.

    提高交易費和運費。

  • He also introduced a new tier -based subscription model for

    他還推出了一種新的分級訂閱模式,用於

  • sellers to jumpstart their growth--at a cost.

    賣家啟動增長的代價。

  • It's ultimately like maybe too focused on keeping the sellers

    歸根結底,也許是太專注於留住賣家了

  • happy and wasn't doing enough to kind of drive buyer

    我很高興,但我做得還不夠多,還不足以推動買方

  • satisfaction. So that's what Josh tended to focus on, you

    滿意這就是喬希傾向於關注的重點,你

  • know, kind of maybe more balancing both sides of a

    要知道,這樣也許更能平衡雙方的利益

  • marketplace, which is key.

    市場是關鍵。

  • By 2018, things were picking up, sales were growing, and

    到 2018 年,情況有所好轉,銷售額不斷增長,而且

  • the stock was at its highest.

    股價達到最高點。

  • The turnaround was attributed to Silverman's leadership.

    這一轉變歸功於西爾弗曼的上司。

  • And then the pandemic.

    然後是大流行病。

  • For the month of April, Etsy sold $133 million worth of

    四月份,Etsy 銷售了價值 1.33 億美元的商品。

  • face masks. That's 12 million face masks.

    口罩。這就是 1200 萬個口罩。

  • The pandemic was a boon for Etsy.

    大流行對 Etsy 來說是個福音。

  • The number of active buyers increased by about 77%.

    活躍買家的數量增加了約 77%。

  • Gross merchandise sales grew by more than 100% year over

    商品銷售總額同比增長 100%以上

  • year in 2020, and more than 30% in 2021.

    到 2020 年,這一比例將超過 30%,到 2021 年將超過 30%。

  • Etsy stock price reached its all-time high that same year.

    同年,Etsy 的股價達到歷史最高點。

  • It also started charging some of its sellers for

    它還開始向部分賣家收取

  • advertising, bringing in additional streams of revenue.

    廣告,帶來更多的收入來源。

  • Pandemic related success is just that it's a fluke.

    與大流行病有關的成功只是一種僥倖。

  • It's a flash in the pan.

    曇花一現。

  • So far missed earnings in 2023 and the first quarter of 2024

    到目前為止,2023 年和 2024 年第一季度的盈利尚未實現

  • are leaving investors with little doubt that the pandemic

    讓投資者毫不懷疑,大流行病

  • may have been just that a fluke.

    可能只是僥倖而已。

  • In December 2023, the company laid off 11% of its staff.

    2023 年 12 月,公司裁員 11%。

  • But as Etsy focuses on a comeback, it's also angering

    但是,當 Etsy 專注於東山再起時,它也激怒了

  • some of its biggest stakeholders its sellers.

    其最大的利益相關者之一。

  • Etsy has been changing how buyers interact with the

    Etsy 一直在改變買家與網站的互動方式。

  • platform to prioritize buyers buying more, faster and

    平臺,優先考慮購買者購買更多、更快和

  • staying on Etsy, not prioritizing buyers having a

    留在 Etsy 上,而不是優先考慮買家擁有一個

  • good experience from individual sellers.

    個人賣家提供的良好體驗。

  • Chiarra Lohr leads the Indie Sellers Guild, a labor

    Chiarra Lohr 上司著獨立賣家協會,這是一個勞

  • advocacy group for Etsy sellers formed after a week

    Etsy 賣家維權組織在一週後成立

  • -long strike against the platform. Creators were

    -對平臺的長期打擊。創作者們

  • frustrated by yet another transaction fee increase and a

    對交易費再次增加和

  • controversial star seller program that prioritized

    有爭議的明星賣家計劃,優先考慮

  • sellers who meet requirements like fast shipping, high

    賣家必須滿足以下要求,如快速發貨、高

  • ratings and quick response times.

    評級和快速響應時間。

  • And everything seems very corporatized.

    一切似乎都非常公司化。

  • It's almost as though you're penalized for not using Etsy

    就好像你不使用 Etsy 就會受到懲罰一樣

  • the way they're trying to make you use it.

    他們試圖讓你使用它的方式。

  • Don't shut down my shop without letting me talk to a

    別在我沒找到人之前就把我的店關了。

  • person. Don't issue a refund to a buyer without getting

    人。在未獲得以下資訊的情況下,不要向買家退款

  • proof that it was damaged.

    證明它已損壞。

  • It's not drop your fees by half.

    不是把你的費用減半。

  • It's not get rid of offsite ads.

    這不是擺脫站外廣告。

  • It's let me opt out if it doesn't work for me.

    如果不適合我,我可以選擇退出。

  • Kind of all those things accumulating to where they

    所有這些東西積累到一定程度後

  • find themselves heaping less and less of the money from

    發現自己從

  • when they have a sale, but having to do more and more

    當他們有促銷活動時,卻不得不做越來越多的工作

  • work, not even in their craft of the thing that they make,

    工作,甚至不是在他們製作的工藝品上、

  • but just to make their Etsy shop work for them.

    但只是為了讓他們的 Etsy 商店為他們工作。

  • The company has said it had to make some tough changes to

    該公司表示,必須做出一些艱難的改變,以便

  • compete with giants like Amazon, which spends more on

    與亞馬遜等巨頭競爭。

  • marketing and has more repeat buyers.

    營銷,擁有更多的常客。

  • Its deteriorating reputation is another issue the company

    聲譽下降是該公司面臨的另一個問題。

  • is fighting. Sellers have blamed the 2013 rule change,

    正在戰鬥。賣家將責任歸咎於 2013 年的規則變更、

  • allowing creators to outsource their production for

    允許創作者將製作外包,以便

  • what they call the "junk-ification" of Etsy.

    他們稱之為 Etsy 的 "垃圾化"。

  • This isn't a new problem, but one that some say has gotten

    這不是一個新問題,但有人說它已經變得

  • worse as the number of sellers grows.

    隨著賣家數量的增加,情況會越來越糟。

  • I want to show you the the sadness on Etsy and what it's

    我想向你們展示 Etsy 上的悲傷,以及它的

  • become.

    成為。

  • Legault went viral for her TikTok, exposing many of the

    Legault 因她的 TikTok 而走紅,揭露了許多"......"。

  • top Etsy shops as dropshippers or sellers who

    頂級 Etsy 店鋪的代銷者或賣家,他們

  • make the designs but outsource the labor to another

    設計,但將勞動力外包給他人

  • company. Some designs are made with AI generated images.

    公司。有些設計使用人工智能生成的影像。

  • Dropshippers are able to mass produce items like T-shirts,

    代發貨人能夠批量生產 T 恤衫等商品、

  • stickers and stationery.

    貼紙和文具

  • Others just sell supplies like beads.

    還有一些只是出售珠子等用品。

  • In a comment to CNBC, Etsy said that it recognizes its

    在對 CNBC 的評論中,Etsy 表示,它認識到其

  • current definition of handmade, includes a broad

    目前手工製作的定義包括廣泛的

  • spectrum of items, and will clarify its policies to be

    項目的範圍,並將澄清其政策,以便

  • more transparent about what belongs on Etsy in the coming

    在未來的日子裡,Etsy 上的內容將更加透明。

  • months.

    個月。

  • There are some like old school people in there, very few.

    裡面有一些像老同學一樣的人,但為數不多。

  • But, um, every click I was like, what is it?

    但是,嗯,每次點擊我都想,這是什麼?

  • Cups again, cups and then another.

    又是杯子,杯子,又是杯子。

  • I click again, it's cups again.

    我再次點擊,又是杯子。

  • And I'm just like, how is this possible?

    我就想,這怎麼可能呢?

  • I get that it's business, but it's so not how I want to do

    我知道這是生意,但我不想這樣做

  • business.

    生意

  • Though this comes at odds with the company's mission, it is

    雖然這與公司的使命不符,但它是

  • not necessarily bad for its finances.

    不一定對其財政不利。

  • If people are buying it, then there's not a lot of incentive

    如果人們都在買,那就沒什麼動力了

  • for management to change that because it's working,

    因為這種做法行之有效,所以管理層必須改變、

  • apparently. But of course, you are going to risk

    顯然是的。當然,你要冒

  • alienating the people who started with the platform.

    疏遠了最初使用該平臺的人。

  • I think we do pay attention when sellers object to some of

    我認為,當賣家反對我們的某些建議時,我們確實會注意。

  • the policy or pricing changes, but I don't think

    政策或定價的變化,但我不認為

  • it's had any impact on their business.

    對他們的業務有任何影響。

  • Etsy said it removed 115% more listings for violating company

    Etsy 表示,因違反公司規定而被刪除的列表數量增加了 115%。

  • policy in the first quarter of 2024, than the year prior.

    與前一年相比,2024 年第一季度的保單數量有所增加。

  • We've always taken down items for not complying with not

    我們總是以不符合以下條件為由取消項目

  • handmade. That's always been a focus, but we've been

    手工製作。這一直是我們的工作重點,但我們一直

  • getting better technology and investing a lot in that.

    獲得更好的技術,併為此投入大量資金。

  • As Etsy tries to compete with e-commerce giants like eBay or

    當 Etsy 試圖與 eBay 或其他電子商務巨頭競爭時

  • Amazon. The path for being both successful and loyal to

    亞馬遜既成功又忠誠於

  • its core principles is unclear.

    其核心原則尚不明確。

  • Can you be Etsy while also having the pressures of a

    你能否既能成為 Etsy,又能承受一家公司的壓力?

  • public company? Should it have gone public?

    上市公司?它應該上市嗎?

  • I mean, it depends on who you ask.

    我的意思是,這取決於你問的是誰。

  • Etsy CEO says the company is still trying to engage and

    Etsy 首席執行官表示,公司仍在努力吸引並

  • retain current buyers, half of whom only shop on Etsy once

    留住現有買家,其中一半人只在 Etsy 上購物一次

  • per year. The 7 million artists are what the company

    每年。這 700 萬藝術家是該公司

  • was founded on, and without them, Etsy is perhaps no

    而沒有他們,Etsy 或許就沒有

  • longer Etsy or offers what buyers are looking for

    更長的 Etsy 或提供買家正在尋找的內容

  • anymore.

    不再是了

  • Many sellers feel trapped.

    許多賣家感到被困住了。

  • They're not really making enough profit margin on Etsy

    他們在 Etsy 上的利潤率其實並不高

  • anymore. But because Etsy is still there, it's very hard

    已經不復存在了。但因為 Etsy 還在,所以很難

  • for alternatives to grow, right?

    讓替代品成長,對嗎?

  • So they've kind of really taken over this space and then

    是以,他們真正接管了這個空間,然後

  • shifted and are now like still sitting in that space.

    現在就像還坐在那個空間裡一樣。

  • In February 2024.

    2024 年 2 月。

  • Activist investor Elliott Management built a 13% stake

    激進投資者埃利奧特管理公司持有 13% 的股份

  • in the company, the largest of any investor, earning it a

    是所有投資者中最大的,為公司贏得了

  • board seat. Stock shot up more than 10% on the news.

    董事會席位。消息傳出後,股價大漲超過 10%。

  • We haven't really seen a ton yet as far as what the impact

    至於會產生什麼影響,我們還不太清楚。

  • will be from that.

    將由此而來。

  • But generally, public market investors generally do applaud

    但一般來說,公開市場的投資者通常會稱讚

  • activists being involved because it perhaps is an

    活動家參與其中,因為這也許是

  • outside opinion kind of coming into a room.

    外面的輿論會進入房間。

  • I actually think the most likely case is Etsy will find

    實際上,我認為最有可能的情況是,Etsy 會發現

  • a way to use that AI to help their sellers, and then

    利用人工智能幫助賣家的方法,然後

  • perhaps it'll be a way to kind of build up trust, which

    也許這將是一種建立信任的方式,而這

  • is like, let us set the price.

    就像,讓我們來定價。

  • I think what also they're missing is that we are not

    我認為他們還忽略了一點,那就是我們不是

  • into having these third parties.

    這些第三方。

  • Like, I want to work directly with my printer, I want to

    比如,我想直接使用打印機,我想

  • work with other artists, I want to collaborate.

    我想與其他藝術家合作。

  • I want to do these things in in the way that makes me feel

    我想用能讓我感覺到的方式來做這些事情

  • human.

    人。

  • Ultimately, some major changes could shake up the company if

    最終,一些重大變革可能會撼動公司,如果

  • it can't boost profits or innovate fast enough.

    它無法快速提高利潤或創新。

  • In February 2024, it introduced a one-time seller

    2024 年 2 月,它推出了一次性賣方

  • fee of $15 for new shops, which it said helped boost

    新開店鋪的費用為 15 美元,據說這有助於促進

  • revenue in its Q1 results.

    在其第一季度財報中,該公司的營業收入

  • If ultimately, you know, the the outlook for the company is

    如果最終公司的前景是

  • five 6%, 7% revenue growth and not 13% revenue growth,

    5%、7% 的收入增長,而不是 13% 的收入增長、

  • they probably would restructure their expenses.

    他們可能會調整開支。

  • Could they shrink the size of the organization, have more

    他們是否可以縮小組織規模,擁有更多的

  • layoffs, increase the margin?

    裁員,增加利潤?

  • I mean, generally scaled marketplaces can operate at

    我的意思是,一般規模的市場可以在以下條件下運行

  • margins higher than Etsy is operating at today.

    利潤率高於 Etsy 目前的營運水準。

Etsy, the global e-commerce platform known for unique and

全球電子商務平臺 Etsy 以其獨特的產品和服務而聞名。

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