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Our first guest tonight is one of the most famous athletes in the world, who's not only responsible for bringing
我們今晚的第一位嘉賓是世界上最著名的運動員之一,他不僅為我們帶來了精彩的比賽,而且還為我們帶來了一個全新的世界。
Messi to this country, he brought the Spice
梅西來到這個國家,他帶來了香料
Girls back together, too.
女孩們也重歸於好了
His very entertaining docuseries,
他的專題節目非常有趣、
Beckham, is on Netflix now.
貝克漢姆》正在 Netflix 上映。
Please welcome David Beckham.
有請大衛-貝克漢姆。
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Is this a secret to your beauty, you put honey on your face?
這就是你臉上塗蜂蜜的美麗祕訣嗎?
It is. It is.
就是這樣。就是這樣
This is your own honey, right?
這是你自己的蜂蜜,對嗎?
It is our own honey, yeah.
這是我們自己的蜂蜜,沒錯。
You know what?
你知道嗎?
We could have used you earlier today, because I don't know if you heard about this, but show this.
今天早些時候我們本可以利用你的,因為我不知道你是否聽說了這件事,但請看這個。
We have a little video.
我們有一段小視頻。
We had a swarm of bees living under an umbrella outside.
外面的雨傘下住著一群蜜蜂。
Did you know any of those guys?
你認識這些人嗎?
Unfortunately not.
遺憾的是沒有。
Those are not your guys.
他們不是你們的人。
But I'm happy to take them back to London.
但我很樂意把它們帶回倫敦。
Yeah, sure.
是的,當然。
That would be great on the plane.
這在飛機上一定很棒。
You own, for people who don't follow what we call soccer, you call football, sometimes we meet in the middle, you own the Miami Football Club.
你擁有邁阿密足球俱樂部,對於那些不瞭解我們所說的足球和你們所說的橄欖球的人來說,有時我們會在中間相遇。
You're one of the owners of it.
你是它的主人之一。
How many owners are there?
有多少業主?
Those are you?
是你嗎?
There's three of us.
我們有三個人
There's myself, and then two brothers,
有我自己,還有兩個兄弟、
Jorge Mas and Jose Mas.
豪爾赫-馬斯和何塞-馬斯
So it's just the three of us.
所以只有我們三個人。
You, Jorge, and Jose own this team.
你、豪爾赫和何塞擁有這支球隊。
And it has become, is it more successful than you thought it was going to be?
它是否比你想象的更成功?
I always hoped that it would be this successful.
我一直希望它能如此成功。
And obviously, bringing someone like Leo helps.
很顯然,帶上里奧這樣的人也會有所幫助。
So obviously, that was always the plan.
所以,這顯然是我們一直以來的計劃。
But you never know.
但世事難料。
Are you aware of how popular he is?
你知道他有多受歡迎嗎?
I know in Miami, obviously, there's a lot of people there.
我知道在邁阿密,顯然有很多人在那裡。
But my son, who's seven years old, who has never watched one moment of football, he couldn't pick Messi out of a lineup, yet he's got the whole, oh, he's got all the apparel, the pink shirt, the cleats, the whole deal.
但是我的兒子,他才七歲,從來沒有看過足球比賽,他不可能把梅西從一個陣容中挑出來,但是他卻擁有了所有的東西,哦,他擁有了所有的服裝,粉紅色的球衣,球鞋,所有的東西。
And he's just like Messi crazy, even though, I don't know, he just somehow it happened.
他就像梅西一樣瘋狂,儘管我不知道,他只是莫名其妙地發生了。
I don't know what happened.
我不知道發生了什麼。
It's just that effect that Leo has on the game and the world.
這就是里奧對遊戲和世界的影響。
One of the reasons why we wanted to bring him to America was to inspire the next generation.
我們想把他帶到美國的原因之一是為了激勵下一代。
That was my plan.
這就是我的計劃。
I obviously wanted to bring him for the player he is and the person he is.
顯然,我是看中了他的球員身份和為人,才想引進他的。
I've played against him numerous times, actually twice, thankfully.
我曾多次與他交手,幸好還有兩次。
Thankfully.
還好。
But I've been a fan of him and watched him for many years.
但我一直是他的粉絲,看了他很多年。
And I always had the plan to bring the greatest player to ever play the game, in my opinion, to our team.
我一直有一個計劃,就是把我認為史上最偉大的球員帶到我們的球隊。
And luckily, it happened.
幸運的是,它發生了。
Is he, in your opinion, is he the greatest player ever to play the game?
在你看來,他是有史以來最偉大的球員嗎?
I think everyone's got their own opinions.
我想每個人都有自己的看法。
But for me, personally.
但就我個人而言
Well, yours have to mean more than others.
好吧,你的意義肯定比別人的大。
Well, you know, there's a lot of great players who have played the game over the years.
要知道,多年來有很多偉大的球員都參加過這項比賽。
But in my opinion, he's the perfect player.
但在我看來,他是一個完美的球員。
And how do you convince him to come out?
你怎麼說服他出來?
Did you say, look at how well everything worked out for me?
你是不是說,看看我做的一切有多順利?
Well, I could actually come at him and with him with, obviously, my experience of moving to America and coming to a league that actually, at that time, wasn't established like it is now.
很明顯,我可以用我移居美國的經歷來和他交流,並且來到一個當時還不像現在這樣成熟的聯盟。
There was only 13 teams in the league.
聯盟只有 13 支球隊。
Now there's almost 30.
現在差不多有 30 個。
And it's in a different position than what it was back then when I first came.
它的位置也與我剛來時不同。
But he's always loved Miami.
但他一直很喜歡邁阿密。
He always loved the idea of the project of bringing the game even bigger in this country.
他一直很喜歡這個項目的理念,希望能在這個國家推廣這項運動。
And when you bring someone like that to America, people notice.
當你把這樣的人帶到美國,人們就會注意到。
Yeah. Well, sure.
是的,當然當然
We certainly noticed when you showed up.
當你出現時,我們當然注意到了。
It's been very special.
它非常特別。
Yeah.
是啊
Your wife, most people I would presume know, is Victoria, who is from the Spice Girls.
我想大多數人都知道,你的妻子是辣妹組合中的維多利亞。
Yeah.
是啊
She had a, I mentioned in your introduction that she had a birthday party.
我在你的介紹中提到,她有一個生日派對。
And you put this together?
這是你組裝的?
Big one. Yeah.
大的那個是啊
I did put it together.
我確實把它組裝起來了。
Well, I think we have a video here of what happened at the birthday party.
我想我們這裡有一段生日派對上發生的視頻。
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
謝謝,謝謝,謝謝,謝謝,謝謝。
Woo!
Woo!
Is this?
是這樣嗎?
Woo!
Woo!
Thank you!
謝謝!
How long had it been since they sang together?
他們有多久沒有一起唱歌了?
It's actually been like 12 years since they did the Olympics in the UK.
實際上,英國已經有 12 年沒有舉辦奧運會了。
But 15, over 15 years since they actually were on the stage together.
但是,15 年了,他們真正同臺演出已經超過 15 年了。
So obviously having them all there that night.
很顯然,那天晚上他們都在場。
And I didn't expect them to all get up on stage.
我也沒想到他們會全部上臺。
But I had a whole video planned where me and my kids recreated the Mama video.
但我計劃了一個完整的視頻,讓我和孩子們重現媽媽的視頻。
Oh, really?
哦,真的嗎?
So my son, who plays the guitar and sings, had a song and he sang Mama.
於是,會彈吉他和唱歌的兒子唱了一首《媽媽》。
And then all of a sudden, all the girls got up.
突然,所有的女孩都站了起來。
And I was like, and I'm their biggest fan.
我當時想,我是他們最忠實的粉絲。
You know, I tend to not tell my wife that.
你知道,我往往不告訴我妻子這些。
Because, you know, I tend to tell her that I fancied her when she was a Spice Girl.
因為,你知道,我經常告訴她,當她還是辣妹的時候,我就喜歡上她了。
So, you know, I love that about her.
所以,我喜歡她這一點。
Yeah, sure.
是的,當然。
I'm sure she loved the fact that you were on a team too, right?
我相信她也很喜歡你們是一個團隊的,對嗎?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
是啊,是啊,是啊,是啊,是啊。
So I was a fan.
所以我是他的粉絲。
I loved your documentary.
我喜歡你的紀錄片。
I mean, it was so good.
我的意思是,它太好吃了。
If you have not seen it, it's like, I'm going to be honest.
如果你沒看過,我就實話實說吧。
I have almost zero interest in soccer.
我對足球幾乎毫無興趣。
I mean, I really, but I thought you guys, the two of you, and your story is incredible.
我的意思是,我真的,但我覺得你們倆,你們的故事太不可思議了。
And your chemistry, and just how funny you guys are together was really delightful to watch.
你們之間的化學反應,以及你們在一起有多麼有趣,都讓人看得非常開心。
We got so caught up in it.
我們太投入了。
Yeah, well, you know, we've been together for 27 years in July.
我們在一起已經27年了
You know, we've been married for 25.
你知道,我們已經結婚25年了。
So it's our 25th wedding anniversary in July.
今年 7 月是我們結婚 25 週年紀念日。
But with the documentary, you know, people wanted me to do it a long time ago, you know, when I retired.
但對於這部紀錄片,你知道,很久以前,當我退休時,人們就希望我做這部紀錄片。
And I actually wasn't ready to kind of look back.
事實上,我還沒準備好回首往事。
I was ready to jump into something else on the business and with Miami.
我已經準備好投入到邁阿密的事業中去了。
But then I had a plan about seven years out.
不過,我在七年前就有了一個計劃。
And I said, OK, for my 10-year anniversary of my retirement,
我說,好吧,就在我退休 10 週年的時候、
I want to do the documentary.
我想拍紀錄片。
And that was really the plan.
這才是真正的計劃。
But then when we did it, you know, it was, it just, it was amazing.
但是,當我們做了之後,你知道,那真的是太神奇了。
You know, I.
你知道,我
Some of the footage that you're really, one of your main cameramen is your dad in the, I mean, because he shot so much video of you.
你的主要攝影師之一是你父親,因為他為你拍攝了很多視頻。
And we're going to show a little bit of that in a second.
我們馬上就會展示其中的一部分。
But what did, when you saw it, when you watched the whole thing for the first time, how did it hit you?
但是,當你看到它的時候,當你第一次觀看整部影片的時候,它是如何打動你的?
Well, I planned to watch it on the morning, one morning early, just myself in a, with a big screen and just, you know, to write notes because it was a really early, early edit.
我計劃在一個清晨,在一個大屏幕前觀看,然後寫下筆記,因為這是一個很早很早的剪輯。
When I watched it that morning, I really didn't like it.
那天早上看的時候,我真的不喜歡。
I didn't enjoy watching it.
我看得不過癮。
So I'd planned to then let my wife watch it for the first time at the premiere.
所以我打算讓我妻子在首映式上第一次觀看。
But then obviously I had to then change that and get her to watch it that evening with me.
但很顯然,我不得不改變這個想法,讓她當晚和我一起看。
And we literally, we sat in bed with an iPad and we watched two hours of rough edit.
我們坐在床上,用 iPad 看了兩個小時的粗剪輯。
And like, we got to the end of it and we looked at each other and we were so emotional.
就像,我們到了結尾,我們看著對方,都很激動。
It was like, like we laughed, we cried, we were tired because we've done so much in that 27 years.
就好像,我們笑過、哭過、累過,因為我們在這 27 年裡做了太多的事情。
You know, and that, and that really was the moment where I fell in love with the documentary because I knew that she loved it.
那一刻,我真的愛上了這部紀錄片,因為我知道她很喜歡。
And that meant more to me.
這對我來說更有意義。
And then did you, and we learned one of the things that we learned in the documentary is that you are a neat freak to an extreme, extreme, like a real extreme.
我們在紀錄片中瞭解到的一件事是,你有極端的潔癖,非常極端,就像一個真正的極端。
Yeah, I know.
是的,我知道。
And like, after you're in bed watching this, do you say,
比如,你躺在床上看完之後,你會不會說:
OK, now we're going to make the bed?
好了,現在我們要鋪床了嗎?
Yeah, I'm a little bit OCD.
是啊,我有點強迫症。
I'm a little bit, yeah, a little bit.
我有點,是的,有點。
Yeah, more than a little bit OCD.
是啊,有點強迫症。
Like, are you looking around right now and wanting to clean stuff up here?
比如,你現在是不是正環顧四周,想要清理一下這裡的東西?
A little bit.
一點點
I mean, the carpet could have been vacuumed in a little straight.
我的意思是,地毯可以直接用吸塵器吸一下。
But in all honesty, you know, that is what I'm like.
但說實話,我就是這樣的人。
Victoria always jokes, because when we have our friends around for dinner or drinks, you know, I start turning, like, lights off and cleaning the candles and, you know, start cleaning.
維多利亞總是開玩笑,因為當我們有朋友來吃飯或喝酒時,我就會開始關燈、擦蠟燭,然後開始打掃衛生。
Yeah, you trim the candle wicks.
是的,你要修剪蠟燭芯。
I do, I do.
我願意,我願意。
Oh, insanity.
哦,瘋了。
But it's not just the wicks.
但這不僅僅是燈芯的問題。
It's the outside of the glass as well, so I know.
這也是玻璃的外面,所以我知道。
It's not just the wicks, folks.
這不僅僅是燈芯的問題,夥計們。
David Beckham is here.
大衛-貝克漢姆來了
His documentary Netflix is on Netflix called Beckham.
他的紀錄片《貝克漢姆》正在 Netflix 上播放。
We'll be right back.
我們馬上回來
My dad used to make me do corner after corner after corner after corner and put it in the exact same spot as he wanted it.
我爸爸經常讓我一個彎接著一個彎,把它放在他想要的位置上。
And if I didn't, he'd kill me.
如果我不這麼做,他就會殺了我。
He used to tell me, it's moments like corners at the end of the game that can create history.
他常對我說,像比賽最後時刻的角球這樣的時刻可以創造歷史。
Is this that moment?
這就是那一刻嗎?
Beckham.
貝克漢姆
It's your own sparkle.
這是你自己的閃光點。
It's comfort to iron your.
熨燙您的衣服很舒適。
Cleared.
清除。
Gives with a shot.
Gives 中槍。
She's in.
她進來了
With 30 seconds on the clock.
時間還有 30 秒
That's David Beckham.
那是大衛-貝克漢姆。
His documentary is called Beckham.
他的紀錄片名為《貝克漢姆》。
It's on Netflix.
在 Netflix 上播放。
That's, boy, your dad, for those who haven't seen it, he taped every one of your games.
那是,孩子,你爸爸,對於那些沒看過的人來說,他錄下了你的每一場比賽。
And he's a little bit of a maniac, yeah?
他是個小瘋子,是嗎?
Yeah.
是啊
He's a little bit of a maniac.
他是個小瘋子。
One of your games.
你的遊戲之一
And he's a little bit of a maniac, yes?
他是個小瘋子,是嗎?
I mean, I wouldn't call him a maniac, personally.
我的意思是,我個人不會稱他為瘋子。
But yeah, he was quite obsessed with me becoming a footballer.
不過是的,他對我成為一名足球運動員非常著迷。
So yeah, he taped everything, kept every newspaper cut in, everything.
是的,他把一切都錄了下來 把剪下來的報紙都留了下來,什麼都留了下來
And my mom was the same.
我媽媽也是一樣。
Mom was exactly the same.
媽媽也是如此。
Mom seemed, at least in the documentary, she seemed a little like maybe she wanted your dad to ease up a little bit.
媽媽看起來,至少在紀錄片裡,她看起來有點像,也許她希望你爸爸能放鬆一點。
Well, she's a protective mom.
她是個愛護孩子的媽媽
Yeah.
是啊
She took it out on a journalist once.
有一次,她把氣撒在了一個記者身上。
She stayed in a hotel.
她住在一家旅館裡。
And there was this one journalist that just kept on writing really not nice things about me and about my game.
有一位記者一直在寫關於我和我的比賽的非常不好的事情。
And she found out what room he was in.
她還發現了他在哪個房間。
So she put every dinner, every drink, on his room.
所以她把每頓飯、每杯酒都放在他的房間裡。
And yeah.
是啊
Good.
很好。
Yeah.
是啊
Protective mom.
保護媽媽
Good.
很好。
You went through a lot.
你經歷了很多
I mean, I felt very sorry for you at parts of the documentary.
我是說,在紀錄片的某些部分,我為你感到非常遺憾。
People go, oh, he's a millionaire.
人們會說,哦,他是個百萬富翁。
He's married to one of the Spice Girls.
他娶了辣妹之一。
He's just incredibly handsome.
他實在是太帥了。
And we shouldn't feel sorry for him.
我們不應該為他感到遺憾。
But I did feel sorry for you.
但我確實為你感到遺憾。
You know, I think one of the reasons, you know, one of the things that came out of the documentary, to be honest, is in the US, I think, people obviously knew that I came to the galaxy.
老實說,我認為這部紀錄片產生的原因之一是,在美國,人們顯然知道我來到了銀河系。
They knew my career.
他們瞭解我的職業生涯。
But what they didn't know was that and what happened throughout my career.
但他們不知道的是,在我的職業生涯中發生了什麼。
And I think that surprised a lot of people.
我想這讓很多人感到驚訝。
And I also, you know, even in the UK, through that time, it was difficult. And you saw that it was difficult.
我也知道,即使在英國,那段時間也很艱難。你也看到了當時的困難。
But recently, we were in a pub in London.
但最近,我們在倫敦的一家酒吧裡。
And I came out, and on the windscreen of my car was a note, no name on it, just, we're so sorry for the way we treated you.
我出來的時候,我車的擋風玻璃上貼著一張紙條,上面沒有名字,只有一句話:我們對對待你的方式感到非常抱歉。
And it was like, you know.
就好像,你知道
Oh, that's nice.
哦,真不錯。
Yeah, so.
是啊
I like that.
我喜歡這樣。
Signed everyone.
大家簽名
Signed everyone.
大家簽名
Do you ever talk to, like, Travis Kelsey and say, hey, man, here's what you have to expect?
你有沒有跟特拉維斯-凱爾西說過,嘿,夥計,這就是你要期待的?
I think he can handle it.
我認為他能處理好。
You think he can handle it?
你覺得他能應付嗎?
You know, we know Taylor can definitely handle it.
你知道,我們知道泰勒肯定能處理好的。
You, one of the things your dad did was he would give you, and I think we have a photograph, he would give you Guinness and raw eggs to bulk you up.
你,你父親做的一件事就是他會給你,我想我們有一張照片,他會給你健力士酒和生雞蛋讓你振作起來。
Yep.
是的。
How old are you here?
你多大了?
I think I'm maybe 11.
我想我大概 11 歲吧。
Now, you know, in the United States, he would be arrested for this.
要知道,在美國,他會是以被捕。
Yeah.
是啊
But the reason behind that was my hero as a kid was a player called Brian Robson.
但這背後的原因是,我小時候的偶像是一位名叫布萊恩-羅布森的球員。
He used to play for the Manchester United team and also England.
他曾為曼聯隊和英格蘭隊效力。
So he was my hero.
所以他是我的英雄。
And I read his book when I was a young kid.
我小時候讀過他的書。
And he was, like, really small and skinny when he was a kid.
他小時候又瘦又小。
And what he did, he drank Guinness and raw eggs.
而他所做的,就是喝健力士酒和生雞蛋。
And I got the idea.
我就有了這個想法。
So I said to my dad, can I do it?
所以我對爸爸說,我能做到嗎?
And as you see, that's what happens when you drink Guinness at 11.
如你所見,這就是 11 點喝健力士啤酒的後果。
And would you get drunk?
你會喝醉嗎?
No.
不
No, it was only like, I'd only have, like, half a glass.
不,我只喝半杯。
OK.
好的。
And then, you know, a few raw eggs.
然後,你知道,還有幾個生雞蛋。
I know. It's so different.
我知道太不一樣了
That's one of the big differences between our countries, is that does not fly here at all.
這是我們兩國之間的一大區別,因為這在這裡根本行不通。
Yeah.
是啊
I know, I know.
我知道,我知道。
Did you see Tom Brady's roast the other night?
你看到湯姆-布雷迪那天晚上的烤肉了嗎?
I did.
是的
You did.
是的
Would you ever do something like that?
你會做這樣的事嗎?
No.
不
No, you wouldn't.
不,你不會的。
No, absolutely.
不,絕對不。
You know, the whole concept is, you know, it's quite funny.
你知道,整個概念就是,你知道,這很有趣。
It was very funny.
這非常有趣。
But, you know, I know Tom well.
但是,你知道,我很瞭解湯姆。
And I must admit, I did fire him a message just to check he was OK.
我必須承認,我確實給他發了一條資訊,只是想確認他是否安好。
Oh, you did?
哦,是嗎?
Yeah, because I was like, are you OK?
是啊,因為我當時想,你還好嗎?
Is he OK?
他還好嗎?
He's more than OK.
他還不錯。
But, yeah, it was hard to watch.
但是,是的,這很難看。
So next year, we will not see you roasted.
所以,明年我們就看不到你們烤肉了。
No.
不
No, no, OK.
不,不,好吧。
Definitely not.
絕對不是。
Well, it's great to see you.
很高興見到你。
I highly recommend the documentary.
我強烈推薦這部紀錄片。
It's called Beckham.
它叫貝克漢姆。
It's on Netflix now.
現在正在 Netflix 上播放。
Mr. David Beckham, everybody.
大家好,我是大衛-貝克漢姆先生。
We'll be back with Chris Cicchetti.
我們將和克里斯-西切蒂一起回來。