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TEAMER THAT SAID KIM WAS HIS STUDENT FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR.
說金是他一整年的學生。
STUDENT FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR. >> Reporter: GOOD MORNING TO
一整年的學生。>> 記者:各位早上好。
>> Reporter: GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
>> 記者:早上好。
YOU.
你。
WE SIMPLY DONT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT KIM JONG-UN.W ENOUGH
我們對金正恩的瞭解還遠遠不夠。
ABOUT KIM JONG-UN. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WALKING INTO
關於金正恩特朗普總統正走進
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WALKING INTO
特朗普總統正走進
THE UNKNOWN.
未知的世界
THE UNKNOWN.
未知的世界
AND WHAT EMERGES FROM OUR EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEWS IS A DEEPLY
從我們的獨家專訪中,我們看到了一個深刻的
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEWS IS A DEEPLY COMPLEX CHARACTER.
獨家專訪是一個非常複雜的人物。
COMPLEX CHARACTER. SMILING, RUTHLESS, MYSTERIOUS,
複雜的性格。微笑、無情、神祕、
SMILING, RUTHLESS, MYSTERIOUS,
微笑、無情、神祕、
WHO IS KIM JONG-UN? THIS FORMER HIGH SCHOOL
金正恩是誰?這位前高中生
THIS FORMER HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS EXPERIENCE, MAY HOLD
這位前中學教師的經驗,可能持有
TEACHERS EXPERIENCE, MAY HOLD CRUCIAL LESSONS FOR PRESIDENT
教師的經驗,對總統來說可能是至關重要的一課
CRUCIAL LESSONS FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
給特朗普總統的重要啟示
TRUMP.
特朗普
20 YEARS AGO, HIS STUDENT, HE
20 年前,他的學生
20 YEARS AGO, HIS STUDENT, HE
20 年前,他的學生
BELIEVES, WAS THE FUTURE LEADER
認為,他是未來的領導者
BELIEVES, WAS THE FUTURE LEADER
認為,他是未來的領導者
OF NORTH KOREA. >> HIS NAME WAS UN.
北朝鮮。>>他的名字叫雲。
>> HIS NAME WAS UN. AND HE STARTED SCHOOL HERE IN
>> 他叫 un。他於
AND HE STARTED SCHOOL HERE IN THE SEVENTH CLASS.
他從七年級開始在這裡上學。
THE SEVENTH CLASS. HE WAS ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD.
第七班。他當時大約 14 歲。
HE WAS ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD. >> Reporter: IN HIS FIRST
他當時大約 14 歲。>> 記者:在他的第一個
>> Reporter: IN HIS FIRST ENGLISH-LANGUAGE INTERVIEW, HE
>> 記者:在他的首次英文訪談中,他說.............
ENGLISH-LANGUAGE INTERVIEW, HE SAYS HE TAUGHT UN SPORTS, MATH
在接受英語採訪時,他說自己教過學生體育、數學和英語。
SAYS HE TAUGHT UN SPORTS, MATH AND GERMAN AT THIS SCHOOL.
說他在這所學校教體育、數學和德語。
AND GERMAN AT THIS SCHOOL.
和德語。
HE WAS HIS HOME ROOM TEACHER. >> HE WAS A GOOD STUDENT.HER.
他是他的家庭教師。>> 他是個好學生。
>> HE WAS A GOOD STUDENT. BUT HE WASNT EXTRAORDINARY.
>> 他是個好學生。但他並不出眾。
BUT HE WASNT EXTRAORDINARY. >> Reporter: BUT HE SAYS KIM
但他並不特別>> 記者:但他說金
>> Reporter: BUT HE SAYS KIM JONG-UN WILL LIKELY UNDERSTAND
>> 記者:但他說金正恩很可能會理解
JONG-UN WILL LIKELY UNDERSTAND
炯恩可能會理解
ENGLISH.
英文。
ENGLISH.
英文。
SO, YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE AT
所以,你認為他會在
SO, YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE AT
所以,你認為他會在
LEAST LEARNED BASIC FRENCH AND ENGLISH AND GERMAN. FRENCH AND
至少學會了基本的法語、英語和德語。法語和
ENGLISH AND GERMAN. >> YOU HAVE TO.
英語和德語。>> 您必須
>> YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO.
>> 你必須這樣做。你必須
YOU HAVE TO. >> Reporter: IT WAS 1998, WHEN
你必須>> 記者:那是 1998 年的事了。
>> Reporter: IT WAS 1998, WHEN WE BELIEVE HE WAS IN
>> 記者:那是1998年,我們相信他在
WE BELIEVE HE WAS IN SWITZERLAND.
我們認為他當時在瑞士。
SWITZERLAND.
瑞士。
INTRIGUE SURROUNDS HIS LIFE HERE.GUE SURROUNDS HIS LIFE
在這裡,他的生活充滿了陰謀。
HERE.
這裡。
ITS THOUGHT KIM JONG-UN SPENT MANY YEARS IN EUROPE.UN SPENT
人們認為金正恩在歐洲度過了許多年。
MANY YEARS IN EUROPE. FOR A WHILE, ITS SAID HE LIVED
在歐洲生活多年。有一段時間,據說他住在
FOR A WHILE, ITS SAID HE LIVED IN AN APARTMENT HERE WITH HIS
有一段時間,據說他和妻子住在這裡的一套公寓裡。
IN AN APARTMENT HERE WITH HIS AUNT AND UNCLE.
和他的叔叔嬸嬸住在這裡的一套公寓裡。
AUNT AND UNCLE. WHILE WE MAY KNOW LITTLE OF HIM,
舅舅和舅媽雖然我們可能對他知之甚少、
WHILE WE MAY KNOW LITTLE OF HIM, TO UNDERESTIMATE HIS KNOWLEDGE
雖然我們可能對他知之甚少,但低估他的知識
TO UNDERESTIMATE HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE WEST MIGHT BE A MISTAKE.
低估他對西方的瞭解可能是個錯誤。
OF THE WEST MIGHT BE A MISTAKE. A SWISS INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST
可能是個錯誤。一位瑞士調查記者
A SWISS INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST ON A FELLOWSHIP AT STANFORD
一位在斯坦福大學獲得獎學金的瑞士調查記者
ON A FELLOWSHIP AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY
斯坦福大學獎學金
UNIVERSITY UNIVERSITY, BELIEVES HE
他認為自己
UNIVERSITY, BELIEVES HE UNCOVERED THE VISA APPLICATION.
他認為自己揭露了簽證申請。
UNCOVERED THE VISA APPLICATION. >> HERE, YOU SEE KIM JONG-UN,
揭開簽證申請表。>>在這裡,你看到了金正恩、
>> HERE, YOU SEE KIM JONG-UN, KIM JONG-CHOL AND HIS YOUNGER
>>在這裡,你會看到金正恩、金正哲和他的弟弟
KIM JONG-CHOL AND HIS YOUNGER SISTER.
金鐘哲和他的妹妹
SISTER.
姐姐
AND THE DATE OF BIRTH IS CONSISTENT WITH KIM JONG-UNS
出生日期與金正恩一致
CONSISTENT WITH KIM JONG-UNS AGE.
與金正恩的年齡相符。
AGE.
年齡
>> Reporter: MICHELE HAS A PHOTO OF HIS FORMER STUDENT.AS A PHOTO
>> 記者:米歇爾有一張他以前學生的照片。
OF HIS FORMER STUDENT. >> I TOOK A PICTURE OF EVERY
他以前的學生。>>我給每個
>> I TOOK A PICTURE OF EVERY STUDENT.
>> 我給每個學生都拍了一張照片。
STUDENT.
學生:
>> Reporter: NBC NEWS SENT THAT PICTURE FOR ANALYSIS. SENT THAT
>> 記者:美國全國廣播公司新聞頻道(NBC NEWS)已將照片發送給我們進行分析。發送
PICTURE FOR ANALYSIS. >> THE NOSE, THE MOUTH AND TWO
分析圖片。>>鼻子、嘴巴和兩個
>> THE NOSE, THE MOUTH AND TWO FEATURES OF THE EARS LINE UP,
>> 鼻子、嘴巴和耳朵的兩個特徵一致、
FEATURES OF THE EARS LINE UP, GIVING US THE STRONG LIKELIHOOD
耳朵的特徵一致,使我們很有可能
GIVING US THE STRONG LIKELIHOOD THIS IS KIM JONG-UN.
讓我們很有可能這就是金正恩。
THIS IS KIM JONG-UN. >> Reporter: HIS AUNT AND UNCLE
這是金正恩>> 記者:他的姑姑和姑父
>> Reporter: HIS AUNT AND UNCLE DEFECTED TO THE U.S., WHERE THEY
>> 記者:他的姑姑和姑父逃到了美國,在那裡他們
DEFECTED TO THE U.S., WHERE THEY ARE IN HIDING.
叛逃到美國,目前藏匿在那裡。
ARE IN HIDING. MICHELE REMEMBERS A BOY WITH
都躲起來了。米歇爾回憶起一個男孩
MICHELE REMEMBERS A BOY WITH LIMITED FRIENDSHIPS BUT LOVING
在米歇爾的記憶中,這個男孩交友不慎,但充滿愛心。
LIMITED FRIENDSHIPS BUT LOVING BASKETBALL.
友誼有限,但熱愛籃球。
BASKETBALL.
籃球
>> WHEN WE PLAYED BASKETBALL TOGETHER AND DOING SPORTS, HE
>> 我們一起打籃球和做運動時,他
TOGETHER AND DOING SPORTS, HE ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE A PRO.
在一起做運動時,他總是像個職業運動員。
ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE A PRO. IN HIS NBA CLOTHES.
總是像個職業球員穿著他在 NBA 的衣服
IN HIS NBA CLOTHES. AND THE NIKES, THE GOOD ONES.
穿著他的NBA球衣還有耐克,好耐克
AND THE NIKES, THE GOOD ONES. THE AIR.
和耐克鞋,好鞋。空氣
THE AIR. THAT WAS THE TIME FOR SHAQUILLE
空氣那是沙奎爾的時代
THAT WAS THE TIME FOR SHAQUILLE ONEAL AND MICHAEL JORDAN.
那是沙奎爾-奧尼爾和邁克爾-喬丹的時代。
ONEAL AND MICHAEL JORDAN. >> Reporter: AND HE COULD TAKE A
奧尼爾和邁克爾-喬丹>> 記者:他還可以拿一個
>> Reporter: AND HE COULD TAKE A JOKE.
>> 記者:他還會開玩笑。
JOKE.
笑話。
>> WHAT I SAID TO HIM WAS, HEY, YOU LOOK ALREADY LIKE A PRO.EY,
>> 我對他說,嘿,你看起來已經很專業了、
YOU LOOK ALREADY LIKE A PRO. BUT THERE IS STILL A WAY TO GO.
你看起來已經很專業了。但還有很長的路要走。
BUT THERE IS STILL A WAY TO GO. TO PLAY LIKE A PRO.
但還有很長的路要走。像職業選手一樣比賽
TO PLAY LIKE A PRO. >> Reporter: YOU TEASED THE
像職業球員一樣比賽。>> 記者:你預告了
>> Reporter: YOU TEASED THE LEADER OF NORTH KOREA, THE
>> 記者:您曾向北韓領導人、北韓民主主義人民共和
LEADER OF NORTH KOREA, THE FUTURE LEADER OF NORTH KOREA.
北韓領導人,北韓未來的領導人。
FUTURE LEADER OF NORTH KOREA. >> YEAH.
北韓未來的領導人>> 是的
>> YEAH.
>> 是的。
FOR ME, I WASNT TEASING THE
對我來說,我不是在戲弄
FOR ME, I WASNT TEASING THE
對我來說,我不是在戲弄
LEADER OF NORTH KOREA.
北韓領導人
LEADER OF NORTH KOREA.
北韓領導人
I WAS TEASING UN PAK. >> Reporter: THE SCHOOL WILL NOT
我在取笑UN PAK。>> 記者:學校不會
>> Reporter: THE SCHOOL WILL NOT CONFIRM HIS ATTENDANCE.
>> 記者:學校不承認他的入學。
CONFIRM HIS ATTENDANCE. BUT FROM AUGUST 1998 TO FALL
確認他出席了會議。但從 1998 年 8 月到秋季
BUT FROM AUGUST 1998 TO FALL 2000, A NORTH KOREAN TEENAGER
但從 1998 年 8 月到 2000 年秋,一名北韓少年
2000, A NORTH KOREAN TEENAGER WAS AT OUR SCHOOL.
2000 年,一名北韓少年來到我們學校。
WAS AT OUR SCHOOL. HE LEFT ON SHORT NOTICE.
是在我們學校。他臨時離開了。
HE LEFT ON SHORT NOTICE. HE WAS WELL-INTEGRATED.
他臨時離開。他融入得很好。
HE WAS WELL-INTEGRATED. HIS HOBBY WAS BASKETBALL.
他融入得很好。他的愛好是籃球。
HIS HOBBY WAS BASKETBALL. HIS NEXT DECADE IS SHROUDED IN
他的愛好是籃球。他的下一個十年籠罩在
HIS NEXT DECADE IS SHROUDED IN MORE SECRECY.
他的下一個十年將更加神祕。
MORE SECRECY.
更多安全。
BUT A DISTANT COUSIN, A FORMER
但他的一位遠房表親,一位曾經
BUT A DISTANT COUSIN, A FORMER
但他的一位遠房表親,一位曾經
ALLY OF THE RULING FAMILY, NOW A
統治家族的盟友,現在是
ALLY OF THE RULING FAMILY, NOW A
統治家族的盟友,現在是
DEFECTOR, THINKS HE HAS SOME
叛逃者,認為他有一些
DEFECTOR, THINKS HE HAS SOME
叛逃者,認為他有一些
CLUES.
線索。
CLUES.
線索。
HIS FATHER WAS THE ONE THAT
是他父親
HIS FATHER WAS THE ONE THAT
是他父親
INFLUENCED HIM THE MOST, HE
對他影響最大的是
INFLUENCED HIM THE MOST, HE
對他影響最大的是
SAYS.
說。
SAYS.
說。
HE SAW ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE,
他看到的是絕對的服從、
HE SAW ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE,
他看到的是絕對的服從、
KNEELING IN FRONT OF HIS FATHER.
跪在父親面前。
KNEELING IN FRONT OF HIS FATHER.
跪在父親面前。
NOW, KIM JONG-UN IS FORCING ALL
現在,金正恩正迫使所有
NOW, KIM JONG-UN IS FORCING ALL
現在,金正恩正迫使所有
THE OFFICIALS TO DO EXACTLY THE SAME.FFICIALS TO DO EXACTLY THE
官員們也要這樣做。
SAME.
一樣。
THE WORLD LEARNED THE NAME KIM JONG-UN ON THE DEATH OF HISKIM
金正恩逝世後,全世界都知道了金正恩這個名字
JONG-UN ON THE DEATH OF HIS FATHER IN 2011.
金正恩於 2011 年父親去世。
FATHER IN 2011. SOON PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL SIT
2011 年的父親。很快,特朗普總統將坐在
SOON PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL SIT DOWN WITH KIM JONG-UN,
不久,特朗普總統將與金正恩舉行會談、
DOWN WITH KIM JONG-UN, FACE-TO-FACE, EYE-TO-EYE.
與金正恩面對面、心連心。
FACE-TO-FACE, EYE-TO-EYE. WHATS YOUR ADVICE?
面對面,眼對眼。你有什麼建議?
WHATS YOUR ADVICE? >> TRY TO FIND THE SENSE OF
你有什麼建議?>> 嘗試找到
>> TRY TO FIND THE SENSE OF HUMOR.
>> 試著找找幽默感。
HUMOR.
幽默。
>> Reporter: A HIGH-STAKES
>> 記者:高風險
>> Reporter: A HIGH-STAKES
>> 記者:高風險
MEETING, DEPENDING ON PERSONAL RAPPORT, WHERE THE MAN MR. TRUMP
根據個人的默契,特朗普先生將出席會議。特朗普
RAPPORT, WHERE THE MAN MR. TRUMP MEETS MAY NOT MATCH THE IMAGE ON
RAPPORT,特朗普先生會見的人可能與他在報紙上的形象不符。特朗普遇到的人可能與
MEETS MAY NOT MATCH THE IMAGE ON TV.
與電視上的影像可能不一致。
TV.
電視
THAT FORMER TEACHER WENT ON TO
這位前任教師後來
THAT FORMER TEACHER WENT ON TO
這位前任教師後來
TELL ME THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
告訴我,特朗普總統
TELL ME THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
告訴我,特朗普總統
SHOULD TRY TO LOOK FOR THE REAL
應努力尋找真正的
SHOULD TRY TO LOOK FOR THE REAL
應努力尋找真正的
PERSON.
個人。
PERSON.
個人。
BUT THINK ABOUT THIS, SAVANNAH
但想想看,薩凡納
BUT THINK ABOUT THIS, SAVANNAH
但想想看,薩凡納
AND HODA.
和霍達。
AND HODA.
和霍達。
IN KIM JONG-UN, WE APPEAR TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO SPENT HIS HIGH
在金正恩身上,我們似乎看到了這樣一個人,他的高