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Alan: I'm gonna make some [beep] up, cause that's what this movie did so far.
Jono: She's got a baby to save. She's got a codpiece to fight.
Battle of the bulge.
Alan: No!
Jono: I found almost everything about this to be deeply unpleasant and ugly.
Alan: You do not understand how much this man loves all things that are movies.
So to have him reacting this way just fills my soul with glee.
Jono: Okay. I'm feeling mildly traumatized just by...
Jareth: Sarah, beware.
Jono: Oh, God!
Alan: Why this?
Jono: Why anything?
You can learn lessons from the movie this movie should have been.
I just think this movie is playing on a loop in hell.
Alan: Hello and welcome to Cinema Therapy.
My name is Alan Seawright. I'm a professional filmmaker who needs therapy. That guy...
Jono: Jonathan Decker, licensed therapist who loves movies.
What are we doing today?
Alan: I'm going to have you react to a movie, as I often do. You're a therapist. Jono: Okay.
Alan: You're going to react to 1986 classic. Beloved.
This was actually a selection by our Patrons. Jono: Okay...
Alan: Whom I will never forgive. Labyrinth.
Jono: Oh...
Yay...
Alan: We have to watch Labyrinth.
Jono: Oh, okay, listen...
There are many, many people out there who love Labyrinth.
We're not them.
But we want to hear from you why you love it, as we go.
Jono: Because we... we heeded the call of our Patrons. Alan: We sure did.
You know what? Here we are.
And we might make it through this. Who knows?
Sarah: Oh, it's not fair.
It'S nOt fAiR.
Step-mom: Oh, really?
Sarah: I'm sorry.
Step-mom: Well, don't stand there in the rain. Come on.
Sarah: Come on, Merlin, come on.
Step-mom: Not the dog.
Sarah: But it's pouring!
Step-mom: Go on, into the garage.
Sarah: Oh...
Step-mom: Go!
Jono: That dog is just a mass.
Step-mom: Sarah, you're an hour late.
Sarah: I said I'm sorry.
Step-mom: Please, let me finish.
Your father and I go out very rarely.
Sarah: You go out every single weekend!
And I ask you to babysit only if it won't interfere with your plans.
Sarah: Well, how do you know? You don't know what my plans are.
You don't even ask me anymore!
Step-mom: Well, I assume you'd tell me if you had a date. I'd like it if you had a date.
Step-mom: You should have dates at your age. Jono: Should you, though?
Dad: Ah, Sarah. You're home.
Alan: I don't know how old she's supposed to be.
Dad: We were worried about you. Sarah: I can't do anything right, can I?!
Jono: That was a scene.
Alan: It was a scene.
Alan: Apparently, she's supposed to be 16. Jono: Okay.
Alan: Sure. You hang out with friends, go on dates, whatever. Maybe not.
Just have ill-defined single player LARPing practice.
Jono: It's showing how self-centered she is.
It's not that big a deal to babysit your baby brother while your dad and your stepmom go on a date,
and especially your stepmom is like, We only do it if it's not going to interrupt your plans.
But you don't have plans.
Alan: We don't care about interrupting your single player LARPing.
You could single player LARP in the house.
Sarah: I hate that.
I hate it!
Jono: She's upset that her parents are divorced and that her dad's remarried and that he has spawned,
and now she's just wishing that she were the only child again.
Sarah: Someone take me away from this awful place!
Alan: You are reading a lot into this. That is not in the script, by the way.
Jono: It is. It's just painfully...
Alan: It's... Oh, yeah.
Jono: Here's the thing about fairness. It's a completely subjective construct. Alan: Yeah.
Jono: That you can't measure. I mean, maybe if we each get one cookie...
But even then it's like, okay, well, then you get down to deserve.
And how do you measure who deserves what?
I mean, it's it really is, do you have what you need. Right?
And she does. Did you see that house and her dog? It's like four dogs in one dog.
Alan: That is one amazing... six dogs.
Jono: Yeah. She could literally say Yip, yip and fly that thing around the neighborhood.
Like, she's good. She doesn't have any friends, it seems.
And it doesn't seem like she wants them. So I don't know what she's complaining about.
She's a spoiled brat.
And that's an issue I have with the movie, is she starts the film as an unlikable, spoiled brat,
and she ends the film as an unlikable, slightly less spoiled brat.
Alan: You're not wrong. Here we go.
Jono: Thanks. You made me dislike Jennifer Connelly, which is really hard to do.
Alan: How is that possible?
Jono: Jareth wants to keep Sarah and others in ignorance in order to keep them under his control.
Alan: But Sarah realizes that avoiding reality is not the key to happiness.
Jono: Ground news is all about this idea.
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and advocates for informed decisions based on all the facts and the angles.
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and are freed from echo chambers by confronting the complexities of the world.
Jono: Just like Sarah's problems don't go away by avoiding reality... Alan: Mm-hmm.
Jono: Current issues don't go away or get fixed if we're just avoiding knowing about them.
Alan: But if we're staying informed in less confusing and overwhelming ways... Jono: Sure.
Alan: Maybe the news won't give us so much anxiety or smell bad.
Jono: This is where Ground News can help.
It shows you things like different sides of a story.
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Jono: And primary sources.
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A person who wants to know things.
Sarah: Just hang on, I'll get you down.
Jono: They do a good job of establishing sympathy for Ludo out of the gate. Alan: Yeah.
Jono: His design, his vocalizations. Ow!
Sarah: I'm sorry!
Jono: What did you think was going to happen?
Sarah: Ludo. Are you hurt?
Ludo?
Jono: It's like if a Wookie and a minotaur hooked up on a hot summer night...
Sarah: I'm Sarah.
Jono: ...produce Ludo.
Ludo: Sarah...
[grunts]
Sarah: Oh, here, let me help you.
Jono: So she's developing a little bit of compassion and sympathy. Alan: Yeah.
Ludo: Sarah.
Sarah friend.
Sarah: Now, wait just a second.
Jono: Here's an issue I have with this movie.
Scenes go on entirely too long while we're waiting for something to happen.
Alan: It's the Wizard of Oz, but weirder.
Jono: It's the Wizard of Oz on acid. And not in a good way. Alan: Yeah.
Jono: Like the back end of an acid trip.
Alan: I love David Bowie, and this is the worst...
It's not just the worst David Bowie music. It's the worst 80s pop music that there is.
♬♬ Dance Magic Dance ♬♬
Alan: You know, for the first time, she's not just being straight up selfish.
Alan: Showing a little bit of kindness. Jono: Yeah.
Alan: I-I want a Ludo.
Jono: Okay... Good luck, cause that's a lot of cleanup.
Well, Ludo is not used to kindness because the labyrinth.
Everything is cruel and everything is designed to test you.
And everything is designed to mock you and make you suffer.
And Ludo is this childlike innocent, who's traumatized by the Goblin king's machinations.
Jono: He's out of survival mode for the first time in a while. Alan: Yeah.
Jono: And he's experiencing connection mode. And I guess that's...
That's a takeaway, is people who've been through a lot when we show them kindness...
Ludo is too dim-witted to doubt or question or be afraid.
Uh, most people would be.
But with consistent kindness, over time, people start to let their guard down and let you in.
And that is a healthy, beautiful thing.
Alan: Eh. He's cute.
Jareth: You don't think a young girl could ever like a repulsive little scab like you, do you?
Hoggle: Well, she said we was... Alan: The Goblin King's really mean.
Jareth: Bosom companions?
Alan: And his hair stupid Jareth: Friends?
Alan: I do love that jacket, though.
Jono: Yeah, the jacket's nice. Alan: I'd wear that jacket.
Jareth: ...I'll tip you straight into the Bog of Eternal Stench.
Jono: Why does the codpiece have to be in center frame almost all the time?
Alan: It's... Listen... I don't understand.
Jareth: And Hoggle, if she ever...
Jono: David Bowie sporting all of the 80s hairstyles at once.
Alan: All of them at the same time.
Jareth: Prince of the Land of Stench.
Jono: Oh...
Alan: Was that funny?
Jono: No.
Jono: [resigned sigh] Okay. This seems like an appropriate time to ask.
For you, many die-hard Labyrinth fans, help us see it.
Alan: Lab heads. What are we missing?
Jono: Lab rats?
I will say there's some of the set design that is incredible.
Alan: I mean, it's the Henson company, so the animatronics and the puppetry are top notch.
Jono: Yeah, and...
[desperate crickets]
Jono: No, I got nothing else. Alan: Yeah, I don't either...
Jono: I do like the Hoggle here is also damaged and traumatized from his life in the labyrinth.
Unlike Sarah, who is awful because she spoiled.
Sarah: Someone has been in my room again!
Jono: Everyone in the labyrinth... they're not awful, but they're gritty and they're mean,
and they're hard hearted and they're survivalist because that's the world that they're born into,
and that's what they have to do to get by.
And when Sarah starts to show Hoggle kindness because he first showed her kindness,
even though it was a manipulation.
But it starts this dance, it starts this cycle of change.
And Hoggle is now willing to do something courageous, but not yet.
He's going to pull a Zuko where he's going to go a step into doing the right thing,
and then backpedal into what he's always done.
Alan: And it doesn't take three seasons, but it feels like about nine.
That's rough buddy.
Jono: Also, they're manipulators who sweet talk you and tell you what you want to hear,
and then they're manipulators who are just bullies and use intimidation and scare tactics and mockery
Jono: to get you to just be too afraid to do anything. Alan: Yep.
Jono: Too afraid to stand up for yourself. Too afraid to pursue the life you want.
And this is what Jareth... Why Jareth?
That's my thing about this whole movie. Why anything?
Alan: Why? Why this?
Hoggle: Abandon ship!
[yells]
Jono: He doesn't even bounce.
Sarah: Are you all right? Jono: He just splats.
Hoggle: I'm not asking to be forgiven. I ain't ashamed of nothing I did.
Jono: Because he betrayed her.
Hoggle: Jareth made me give you that peach.
I don't care what you think of me. I told you I was a coward,
And I ain't interested in being friends.
Sarah: I forgive you, Hoggle.
Hoggle: You...? You do?
Didymus: And I commend you. Rarely have I seen such courage.
You are a valiant man, Sir Hoggle.
Jono: That character is really funny for about five minutes. Alan: Yes.
Ludo: Friends.
Jono: And then he just adds to my increasing desire to hit something.
Sarah: Thanks for your help.
Hoggle: Huh? Well, what are we waiting for? Huh?
Let's get that rat who calls himself Jareth.
Jono: Okay, that is a beautiful thing about forgiveness, is forgiveness is seldom earned and it's seldom deserved.
And we often withhold forgiveness because we're like, Well, they don't deserve it.
And he straight up says, I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm not apologizing.
Jono: And she says, I forgive you. And it just melts him. Alan: Yep.
Jono: The beautiful thing about forgiveness in real life is that it's not about establish--
reestablishing a relationship or letting someone back in who's dangerous.
You can forgive somebody and still keep them in arm's length
or never interact with them again because you don't trust them.
Jono: Forgiveness is, in her case, she's got a baby to save. Alan: Yeah.
Jono: She's got a codpiece to fight.
Let's face it. You gotta be a man to wear tights.
Jono: Battle of the bulge.
Alan: No, no! NO! Stricken from the record!
Jono: She's got things to do. She doesn't have time to get bogged down with hurt and anger.
So she releases it, and she shows him love and compassion.
What's beautiful to me is that she does this, and if it didn't change his heart,
she'd say, Okay, well, we're going to part here because I'm not going to have you betray me again.
But I don't hold a grudge. I've got other things I've got to focus on.
But it does change him, and it does warm his heart.
And I feel strongly that our decency and our kindness doesn't always change people.
But if people are going to change, that's how it happens.
Alan: That's what's going to cause it.
Jono: Oh, God!
Jareth: Sarah, beware. I have been generous up until now.
Jono: And I'm a "gosh" person. I need you guys to understand this.
Jono: Like, I'm a man of faith. I don't say what I just said. Alan: No.
Jono: But that was the effect.
Jareth: Everything that you wanted, I have done.
Alan: I just... Jareth: You asked...
Alan: ...don't understand his cloak being the same as his hair.
But also it's got bones coming out of it?
Jono: And we have smeared Vaseline around the edges of the lens. Alan: Yes.
Jareth: I have turned the world upside down and I have done it all for you.
Jono: Why?
Jareth: I am exhausted from living up to your expectations.
Jono: You are three times her age.
Jareth: Isn't that generous?
Sarah: Through dangers untold and hardships unnumbered...
...I have fought my way here to the castle beyond the Goblin City.
Jono: The inspiration for Kristen Stewart's performance in Twilight.
Alan: Yeah. Pretty much.
Jono: She's... She's standing up to him.
Jareth: Wait.
Jono: But without any passion.
Jareth: Look what I'm offering you.
Jono: A bubble.
Jareth: Your dreams.
Sarah: And my kingdom as great.
Jono: She dreams of bubbles.
Jareth: I ask for so little.
Just let me rule you.
...and you can have everything that you want.
Sarah: Kingdom as great. Alan: This scene feels like it was written by a crappy generative AI.
Jono: [laughs] It does
Alan: I don't understand.
Jareth: ...love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.
Jono: That's not how slavery works.
Alan: I don't understand what his deal is.
I don't understand where her mythology is coming from.
Sarah: You have no power over me.
Alan: Why not?
Alan: Why does this clock go to 13?
Jono: I can't tell what makes me sadder...
that the legendary David Bowie gave this his all...
uh, clearly convinced this was going to be iconic, or that it actually is.
Because like it or not, it is in the zeitgeist.
Alan: It is. This was, again, this was a Patreon request and it...
Jono: It beats... Alan: Always got tons of votes, like, it's been in our Patreon poll for months.
And like, is it just that it was on TBS all the time?
Like, was this your babysitter growing up?
Because I'm not shaming you. If that's the case, that's awesome.
I just want to know. I want to know why.
Jono: If you loved labyrinth growing up, have you watched it lately?
Boom. Roasted.
Well you ask, You have no power over me. And why?
[exasperated sigh] Guys...
Alan: I mean psychologically, she's taking her power back from the Goblin King that has power for some reason...
Jono: But that's the thing. Okay, guys, look, I'm a pretty bright person.
Jono: And... Alan: I'm not laughing. Like, he is. He's smart.
Jono: And at this point, the only reason she has her power back is because she says she does.
And maybe that's the statement. Maybe that's the simple power of it,
is I take my power back just by asserting that I am and believing it.
Alan: It's like Barbie. You mean I don't have to ask to be human? I just decide that I am?
Jono: Yeah. So maybe that's it.
Maybe she says, You only had power over me because I gave it to you.
Like, that's powerful, that... I can get behind that. My issue is that the film doesn't demonstrate that.
Alan: That's the thing. It's not even that it doesn't make it explicit, which it doesn't.
It doesn't make it implicit.
Jono: Yeah. Like, I'm really having to reach here.
The mythology doesn't make any sense.
And honestly, I found almost everything about this to be deeply unpleasant and ugly.
We've got to get out of this stench.
Smell bad.
Jono: Um... Well, this was Labyrinth.
Alan: Well, okay. Okay, let's... Let's try to...
Alan: I'm gonna make some [beep] up, because that's what this movie did. Jono: Okay.
Alan: You're dealing with a manipulator. Jono: Okay.
Alan: You need to take your power back. Jono: Yeah.
Alan: How can a real person do it instead of just saying, I take my power back now!
Jono: Let's start with Sarah. Then we'll talk with you and Sarah's case.
Jono: It comes down to recognizing that she did invite him. Alan: Yeah.
Jono: And so she has to uninvite him.
And that's not saying at this point telling him to go away is going to work.
But she brought him in.
And so taking ownership of that is a powerful thing because it means you're not a victim.
It means you're the agent of change.
It means you're partially responsible not for the behaviors of the manipulator,
not for their abuses, not for their choices, not how they treat you - that's all on them,
but for allowing them into your life. That was a choice you made.
But what's great about that is it doesn't feel like, well, this was an invasion.
This was an invitation, and now I'm pushing them out and I'm disinviting.
This was a choice I made. I'm making another choice now. That's powerful.
Uh, she... she triumphs. Well, okay, here's another thing that drives me crazy.
No, I was about to say...
Alan: I love this. I love this so much.
Guys, you do not understand how much this man loves all things that are movies.
So to have him reacting this way just fills my soul with glee.
Jono: I see the good in almost everything, and I can't. I just cannot.
Okay, look, I was about to say, well, she surrounds herself with friends who support her and love her,
and that is how she ultimately wins the day.
Except for no. She says, I'm going in alone.
Sarah: Because that's the way it's done.
Jono: And they're like, Well, we're here if you need us.
And so at the end, they show up in her bedroom for a dance party.
Alan: For a dance party... Jono: Yeah, but like...
Alan: With another horrible track.
Jono: Okay, I get it. There's power in she does it by herself.
But I don't think that's the theme of the movie.
She starts selfish, she accrues friends, and she learns compassion and selflessness.
And then thematically, all of them together should take him down.
Alan: That would be better.
Because they've all been oppressed by him. They've all been abused by him.
They should all united conquer him. And that, thematically at least, makes sense.
The film goes two thirds of the way with the theme and then jettisons it.
And she's selfishly... you could say selfless because she's trying to protect them, but come on.
Sarah: Because that's the way it's done.
Jono: She goes against him toe to toe. And what happens?
The only thing that happens is she realizes that his eyes are up here and...
...she tells him off. That's it. That's all that happens!
Alan: Also - controversy acknowledged. Uh, weird grooming behavior.
Jono: Yeah. It doesn't... Alan: The motivations don't make sense.
Alan: And then suddenly he's in love with her and like, I'll be your slave,
but only if you are my slave first or something.
Jono: Okay. Here's something, here's something. We're still going.
Alan: Okay. This [beep] will never end. Just like this movie. Jono: No, no.
Jono: You can learn lessons from the movie this movie should have been.
Here's a lesson.
Alan: You're breaking me...
Jono: Here's a lesson...
...is to find the people that when you give them love and acceptance, they reciprocate it.
When you show them loyalty, they reciprocate it and face life's challenges together.
That's what should have happened in this movie.
And instead, we got a puppet peeing into the water. And...
So, until next time...
Alan: Bad smell.
Jono: I don't have a quote. I just think this movie is playing on a loop in hell.
Internet Dads: And... watch movies.
Alan: Maybe not this one.
Alan: We don't want to thank our Patrons for making us watch this,
but we have to thank our Patrons because a - they made us watch this, b - they are wonderful people.
Jono: People like Megan Anderson.
Alan: Bren.
Jono: Shellby Robberts.
Alan: pengvinman.
Jono: And Isaac Sligting.
Alan: Patrons, we love you.
Jono: Thank you for everything but this.
Alan: Thank you for everything else.
Jono: If there was a list of all the things that I would thank you for, the--
Check every single button.
Jono: Not this. Alan: No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Alan: Saaaraaah.