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  • Welcome to the Kill Count, where we tally up the victims in all our favorite horror movies.

  • I'm James A. Janisse, and am I having deja vu, or am I about to talk about Carrie?

  • Oh, it's just another remake, this one from 2013. Yes, we've made it to the final Carrie,

  • after a TV remake and a sequel that occasionally felt like a remake. Here we have another remake,

  • set in the 2010s, ooooh, featuring more talented actors in all the main roles. The mainest role,

  • Carietta White, is played by Chloe Grace Moretz, and while Moretz is obviously a talented

  • actor, it's hard for me to buy into her as Carrie White. Yeah, I know, that's not

  • a unique criticism, but it's how I really feel. She doesn't have the offputting fragility

  • of Sissy Spacek or the acerbic weirdness of Angela Bettis, she just seems like a normal

  • girl acting like an outcast - y'know, the stereotypical "nerdy girl" in rom coms who takes off her

  • glasses and is all of a sudden beautiful.

  • Aside from that casting, I'm also annoyed that this iteration of Carrie doesn't try

  • to do anything new - despite what director Kimberly Peirce, of Boys Don't Cry fame, says here.

  • "There was just a chance to do it differently."

  • The 2002 TV movie, for all its faults, incorporated

  • that after-the-fact framing device and a bunch of scenes from the novel that weren't in the

  • original movie. But 2013 Carrie mostly just takes everything from the de Palma film and

  • re-does it all with new actors and smart phones. It never experiments with the material enough

  • to justify existing, so to me, it feels like an entirely unnecessary remake that doesn't

  • offer any reason for me to watch it over the original.

  • Except MAYBE the fact that some of its kills are a bit more graphic. So, might as

  • well show you those, right?

  • The movie begins at the White House. Well, this blue house. Not like the WHITE hou- you know

  • what I mean. It's a house of wet bibles and painful pregnancies - so painful that

  • Margaret White thinks it's cancer! But unless this is June or July, it's not a cancer at

  • all - it's just a wittle babyyy. Dammit Margaret, no scissors around the wittle baby. Especially

  • not the FACE, come on! And it's probably meant to be at least a little ambiguous,

  • but I don't THINK baby Carrie stopped those scissors with her mind. I think Margaret had

  • a last minute change of heart - and good thing she did, cause now that baby can grow up to

  • be a TITLE CARDDDD.

  • She actually grows up to be Chloe Grace-Moretz, this movie's Carrie White, who's scorned and

  • /or ignored by the popular kids in school like Chris Hargensen, Sue Snell and Tommy Ross.

  • The gym class volleyball game becomes a water sport this time around, but that doesn't

  • improve Carrie's skills at all - nor, of course, her social standing.

  • "You eat shit!"

  • The infamous locker room scene is not as skintastic as de Palma's, which makes sense given that

  • Moretz was an actual teenager here.

  • "I am a 15 year old girl."

  • Yeah, way younger in the role than Sissy Spacek, who was 24, and Angela Bettis, who was 29.

  • Carrie White finds some red on her soap - and her hands - and that freaks her out something

  • special. But the other kids in the locker room only respond by throwing tampons at her

  • and recording their bullying on their phones

  • "PLUG IT UP! PLUG IT UP!"

  • Sounds like some interference is needed by Coach Desjardin, played here by Judy Greer,

  • Kill Count alumnus thanks to Jurassic World and Halloween 2018. With one vintage slap

  • to the face, she calms the situation down - just not enough to avoid an overhead light

  • poppin off. They go to the principal's office, where Desjardin tries to comfort Carrie,

  • but the girl is still in a glass-shattering mood. Wait was that glass?

  • *glass smashing noises*)

  • Yeah that sounded like glass. Who has a glass water tank? That'd be so heavy!

  • Margaret comes to pick Carrie up from school, pausing only to cast scorn upon the horny

  • teenagers around her - namely, Chris Hargensen and her boyfriend Billy Nolan, whose actor

  • Alex Russell gives us the most threatening variation of the character. The Whites get

  • home and Margaret goes inside first so Carrie can be alone in the car when that bike kid comes around.

  • "Crazy Carrie, Crazy Carrie! *pig noise*

  • Wouldn't be Carrie without a doucher on a bike! Or off a bike, I guess.

  • In this remake, Margaret is played by Julianne Moore, previously on the kill Count in The

  • Lost World: Jurassic Park. Moore's Margaret is a highlight of the film, mostly because

  • she's such a different depiction than Piper Laurie's over-the-top fundamentalist. This

  • Margaret White has issues that lead to self-harm, but her relationship towards Carrie feels

  • less rooted in hatred.

  • "It's not our of being abusive, it's not out of being hateful, they love each other."

  • It's a different, manipulative take on the character, but one that still sees her blame Carrie's

  • period on her having sinned.

  • "I'm not Eve, Mama. I didn't sin."

  • Listen, Carrie, the only book

  • learning we do here is BIBLE learning! Get it through your head!

  • When Carrie continues to talk back, she earns a complimentary ticket to the praying closet,

  • to which she says Let Me Out instead of In

  • "GOD YOU SUCK!"

  • Carrietta White!

  • We do NOT digitally crack open doors in this house. Is that what bleeding bod Jesus have wantedwould

  • I didn't think so.

  • That night, Sue Snell is feeling real bad about how she treated Carrie. She tells her

  • boyfriend Tommy Ross about it and they have a conversation from the book where he tells

  • her about a time when he, too, was a dick too far. Good material for the character,

  • especially as delivered by a 19 year old Ansel Elgort in his first ever film role.

  • With that one scene, Sue and Tommy have established that they're good kids - unlike Chris and

  • Billy, and Chris's best friend Tina Blake, who go on the old YouTubes and upload their

  • video of Carrie getting bullied.

  • "Favorite Movie? Bloodsport."

  • Wait, what?

  • "Favorite drink? Bloody Mary."

  • What the- YouTube's not a dating app. Those aren't fields you have to fill out!

  • At school, Miss Desjardin lines up the girls in gym class and tells them what she thinks of their recent actions

  • "You all did a shitty thing yesterday."

  • She tells them they have a choice between physical detention with her

  • or a disinvitation to prom, but Chris Hargensen's

  • not a fan of lateral exercises, so she tells Desjardin to fuck off. Chris is unable to

  • rally the troops to her side, leaving her as the only one suspended - even though she doesn't understand why.

  • "We didn't do anything wrong!"

  • Yep, nothing wrong with this, ya dummy.

  • Carrie gets upset by her every-day bullying so she goes into a bathroom and cracks apart

  • a mirror with her mind. Ohhhh and she makes mirror shard soup in the sink, too! Neat!

  • Intrigued by this capability, she researches miracles and telekinesis so that later on,

  • in her room, she can practice her newfound talent. Huh, I guess all she needed was an

  • extended hand and a silly face, and she was ready to be an X-Man! X-Woman? Mutant. Wow,

  • Carrie, you've already got Luke post-Dagobah skills. This was one scene where Peirce briefly

  • experimented with practical effects, putting the books on strings and using fishing poles

  • to make them float. She didn't like the way it looked though so they went with visual effects instead.

  • In class, Carrie is picked on by a teacher until Tommy comes to her defense

  • "Asshole."

  • "Excuse me Mr. Ross, did you say something?"

  • "I said 'Awesome.'"

  • That act of chivalry gains Carrie's attention and gets the gears turning

  • in Sue's old Snell Shell. Meanwhile, Chris Hargensen has her lawyer dad meet with Principal Morton.

  • He's played by Hart Bochner, probably based off his performance as a slimey yuppie

  • in Die Hard, but it's worth noting that he, too, is a Kill Count graduate, having played

  • the head prankster in Terror Train. Mr. Hargensen tries to get Coach Desjardin fired, but he's

  • unable to do that - or get Chris her prom privileges restored - because there's hard

  • evidence of Chris's awfulness in the form of that video on YouTube. Idiot kids.

  • Chris complains to her friends, and when Sue stands up for Carrie, Chris questions her sincerity,

  • saying she's only being nice so she can still go to Prom.

  • To prove Chris wrong and comfort her guilty conscience, Sue comes up with a plan and Snells

  • it out to Tommy.

  • "I want you to take Carrie White to Prom."

  • Even though he'd rather

  • go with Sue, Tommy can tell how much this would mean to her, so he cool guy walks his

  • way down the hallway, highfiving peers and faculty alike, until he gets to Carrie's lonely

  • lunch table and graces her with his cool guy presence.

  • He asks her to prom, a request she can't even understand.

  • "...What?"

  • "The Prom."

  • ...and her skepticism

  • leads her to flee - she's not lookin to be the butt of another joke. She tells Desjardin

  • about Tommy's proposal, leading to some great multifaceted face acting from Judy Greer,

  • "Wow... Tommy Ross?"

  • and the gym teacher encourages optimism in the girl - after all, with some

  • make up and posture adjustment, Carrie could make a fine date for the T-Man. Just to be

  • sure, though, Desjardin warns Tommy and Sue that they'd better not be setting up Carrie

  • to get pranked - or there'll be Snell to pay. Gotta love Elgort as a well-meaning but kinda

  • dense Tommy Ross.

  • "Famous athlete's, like Tim Tebow? He takes kids to Prom all the time and everyone loves him for it."

  • Aside from the lead role, this movie's shortcomings are

  • no fault of its stars.

  • To make sure Sue's satisfied, Tommy goes to Carrie's house and secures her as a date by

  • saying the poem she read in class was cool. Carrie tells her mom about her prom plans

  • later, saying she's gonna go cause she doesn't want to be the weird kid anymore.

  • "I have to try and be a whole person. Before it's too late."

  • Mama White don't trust Tommy's intentions though,

  • and tells Carrie she needs to get back in the closet. But Carrie's out and proud now,

  • brazenly showing off her superhero powers in a way that Grace-Moretz compared to "conducting

  • a symphony." I'm not a huge fan of how it looks, but at least they didn't go with the

  • version of this scene where Carrie moves her mom around like she's playing a fuckin' crane game.

  • Billy Nolan and his bros take Chris out to a pig farm so they can collect a bunch of

  • blood to epically prank Carrie White. His pal Jackie Talbot's unable to do the deed,

  • so Billy takes over and starts things off with a kiss that allegedly got actor Alex

  • Russell sick because there were pig droppings present on the sledgehammer. I couldn't

  • verify that info but I had to mention it anyway. Chris finishes the job with a psychopathic

  • swine stab, cause Portia Doubleday's Chris Hargensen is kind of cartoonishly evil sometimes.

  • They take that pig's blood into the school and string it up using a pulley system, all

  • while an unsuspecting Carrie White works on her dress with no risk of sore calves. Y'know

  • even with Margaret praying in the background, I'd much rather be Carrie, getting ready for

  • the dance at home, than stuck in this cliche cool kid montage backed by Vampire Weekend.

  • Nothing against Vampire Weekend, I actually like them quite a bit, but I just can't stand

  • manufactured coolness like this. The screenplay for this remake was co-written by two dudes.

  • First, the original film's screenwriter, Lawrence Cohen, which explains why it's so similar

  • to the de Palma film. And secondly, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa - which explains why it feels

  • so CW a lot of the time, seeing as Aguirre-Sacasa is the man who brought us Riverdale and the

  • Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.

  • Margaret tries to manipulate Carrie into staying home, but ain't no one bout to turn down a

  • free limo ride, so Carrietta heads downstairs to leave. When Mags tries to stop her some

  • more, Carrie uses her powers to silence her mum and slide her on backwards into the prayer

  • closet. "And stay in there!" She tells her mom she loves her - just not enough to let

  • her leave - then steps out onto the porch to get baby driven to prom.

  • They get to the school, and after a last minute wardrobe adjustment, head inside the gym,

  • where The Naked and Famous is waiting to score their entrance. Desjardin fuckin LOVES INDIETRONICA.

  • Carrie has a friendly chat with the gym teacher and a romantic slow dance with Tommy

  • so all in all you could call this prom a twirly whirly success. Carrie, you're a Hit, Girl!

  • If only we could roll credits now.

  • But we can't, so we've gotta watch things fall apart - at home, Margaret White bloodilly

  • claws her way out of the closet, and at school, Tina Blake lets Chris and Billy in so they

  • can climb into the rafters and get ready to pull dat rope. The voting for prom royalty

  • begins and Tommy convinces Carrie that they should vote for themselves.

  • "To the Devil with false modesty."

  • "To the Devil..."

  • To Satan!

  • The votes are tallied up while Passion Pit plays - god dammit, you made me buy

  • this soundtrack, too! - and, knowing the eventual results, Chris sends Sue an ominous

  • text, which sends the Snell speeding towards the high school. She gets there just in time

  • to hear Tommy and Carrie announced Prom King and Queen, and as they step up onto the stage,

  • Sue notices the bucket hanging over their heads - like so many swords of Damacles.

  • Sue tries to Snell out that something's going on, but she's tossed out of the gym by Desjardin,

  • right as Billy and Chris finally get their faulty pulley system going. The bucket of

  • blood empties out all over Carrie, covering her so nice they have to show us thrice. And

  • no wonder they wanted to replay it a bunch in the film - they spent a TON of time testing

  • about 50 different ways to get the perfect blood dump.

  • "It was like, 5 feet above her, 3 feet above her. It was like thick blood, it was thin blood.

  • A pretty striking contrast to de Palma, by the way, who just had Jack

  • Fisk pour out a bucket of blood from a ladder.

  • That was back when studios were a lot more

  • hands-off and directors could get away with just winging stuff like that.

  • The mean girls then project the locker room incident onto the walls, bringing that cell

  • phone video back, but only in a superfluous way. This is actually an example of why

  • this movie misses the mark for me. They had an opportunity to update the story and

  • explore the contemporary issue of cyberbullying, but it's only used as window dressing - they

  • never do anything interesting with it. Like, they add it to the movie, but it doesn't add

  • anything TO the movie, you know?

  • They had other opportunities to be different, too

  • - for instance, they could've explored the class divide between Carrie and her peers,

  • which is a topic Kimberly Peirce dealt with in Boys Don't Cry, but it's only barely hinted

  • at in this movie. I dunno man, I just like to see things that are different, not

  • clones with new technology.

  • With the whole gym laughing at Carrie, just like Margaret warned of, Chris and Billy get

  • the hell out of there, leaving their pulley system behind which falls apart and sends

  • the bucket down into Tommy's head. As we all know by now, this kills the poor boy dead,

  • but I will say that this version is the most convincingly fatal of them all.

  • Desjardin goes to help only to get force pushed away, and after Carrie realizes that Tommy's

  • no longer among the living, it's time for her to get wild and wacky with her powers.

  • "Are you seeing this?"

  • Yeah, I'm seeing it! Carrie looks like an alien Clown who just

  • got stabbed in the head. And her pupils have a heartbeat! That's weird.

  • Carrie delivers a psyionic blast that knocks everyone down in an effect that combined 6

  • different shots of various practical and digital things being blown around. Cool use of tech,

  • but it still looks kinda cartoony to me. It does give us another kill, though, when

  • student Heather Shyres is sent headfirst into a glass window.

  • And yes, her name was

  • Heather Shyres here, not Helen Shyres like the character from the book and other two

  • movies. More modern name, I guess?

  • Carrie locks everyone inside the gym and stops an

  • attempted escape via bleachers while crushing Jackie Talbot to death within them.

  • She then kills nerdy prom videographer Freddy Holt by sending a table into his face.

  • Fred Holt!

  • Carrie revels in her powers and activates the fire sprinklers, before turning her attention

  • to mean girl twins Nikki and Lizzy Watson. She knocks them to the ground and they get

  • trampled to death by their peers, dying on the floor right beside each other. Aw, that's

  • almost nice. Carrie knocks down the lights next and triggers a fire. We see another

  • random dude dead on the gym floor as people run around, and then Carrie goes after

  • Tina Blake with a flaming decoration. Though she misses with her initial attack, she uses

  • electrical cables as whips to send Chris's bestie backwards into the flames, giving

  • us an awesome fire stunt where her she looks like a flaming windmill! I love it.

  • Carrie lifts Desjardin up by her throat, but turns out it was to save her from the wet

  • electric floor she's making right thyeah. Let's see, I can count 10 figures zip zap

  • zoppin around in this mess, so that's how many I'll put on the count. 8 dudes and 2

  • ladies, from what I can tell. Carrie doesn't risk electrocuting herself, though, cause

  • she just kinda flies right on over it! Man, but why she gotta have such a weird look on

  • her face?! Close your mouth up, Care Bear!

  • At this point, the school is one big flaming pile of fucked, but that's not gonna stop

  • Carrie from going after who she sees were the architects of her humiliation. Chris and

  • Billy are planning on leaving town and never coming back, but Carrie's waiting with her

  • weird face and a heavy foot to crack open the ground and stop their escape.

  • Their car is nearly swallowed up into the earth but instead they turn around and head

  • straight towards Carrietta

  • "Kill her Billy, kill her!"

  • "Shut up, I got this!"

  • Carrie says Billy DON'T got this, though,

  • and her superpowers kill Billy Nolan with a slowmotion head slam against

  • the steering wheel. Sorry, Chris, that boy dead. But hey, at least he won't have to pay

  • those 2013 gas prices anymore.

  • It doesn't take long for Carrie to dispatch of Chris as well, after she tries in vain

  • to run the girl over once more. Carrie opens her mouth and raises that car up, then lets

  • Chris drive it straight into the gas station for a Mortal Kombat X-Ray kill, holy shit!

  • The accident leaves Chris's face stuck in the windshield, and she apparently dies right

  • there. But, uh, just in case? Might as well double tap her with an explosion, right, Carrie?

  • Cool.

  • Sue Snell and Desjardin are two of the many survivors we see outside the school - in fact

  • there are so many, I have to assume that the only people who died are the ones I saw

  • and counted. No triple digit casualty lists here! Carrie walks back home and is all like

  • Heeeeere's Carrie - only to find that her mama's no longer where she left her.

  • Upstairs she bathes, washing off all the pig's blood, and with Tubby Time complete, she finds

  • and hugs her mom, apologizing for not listening to her about the cruelty of children.

  • But it's too late for Margaret to reconcile with the sinful fruit of her loins, so she tricks

  • Carrie into joining her for a prayer and then STABS HER RIGHT IN THE BACK, AW SHIT!

  • The two of them split apart like they're opposite charges of a magnet and even though Margaret's

  • heaven-bent on killing this supposed spawn of Satan, Carrie's able to stop the knife

  • from crashing into her face - this time, DEFINITELY using her powers. She floats her mom upward

  • and gets all Matrixy to surround her with utensils, and with one last apology, she

  • sends them all into Margaret White's body. The overzealous mother is pinned against the

  • prayer closet with her arms outstretched like JC, and she dies quickly and quietly, with

  • none of Piper Laurie's moans of ecstasy.

  • *GASP*

  • Well, I mean, she does give one last gasp.

  • But then she dies for real. So, you know. Still dead.

  • Carrie's mourning is interrupted by Sue Snell, who shows up offering her help. But Carrie's

  • not into the idea.

  • "Don't hurt me Carrie."

  • "Why not? I've been hurt my whole life."

  • Carrie lets Sue go and expresses regret for killing her mother, which is maybe why her emotions are

  • currently bringing a rock storm down onto and through the house.

  • Sue tries to help one more time, but Carrie only stretches out her hand and gives a prognosis

  • "It's a girl!"

  • "What?!"

  • "You don't know?"

  • Ohhhh Thaaatt's why Sue Snell threw up in the school bathroom

  • in an earlier scene. Why is this random pregnancy addition necessary? It's not,

  • really, but it gives Carrie a Predator 2-esque reason to save Sue as she stays with her mom's

  • dead body and accepts her fate - a fate that involves getting crushed by raining rocks

  • and sucked into the ground inside her house.

  • Sue Snell feels on her snelly- er, her belly, and, some time later, testifies in front of

  • the White Commission, a major framing device of the book. The movie ends with Sue laying

  • a flower at the vandalized gravestone of Carrie White while a kick-ass song from Cults plays.

  • How many people died in our third adaptation of Carrie? Let's find out and

  • get to the numbers.

  • Wait, where'd that bucket g-

  • 22 people died in the 2013 Carrie, which is quite a small number for a Carrie film. The victims

  • consisted of 13 men and 9 women, giving us this tasty prom pie, and with a runtime of

  • 100 minutes, that left us with a Kill on average every 4.55 minutes.

  • I'll give the Golden Chainsaw for Coolest Kill to Chris Hargensen, whose face got trapped

  • in a windshield before she was incinerated in a car explosion. The initial slow-motion

  • face slam was all done with CG, and I think it looks pretty good, and then that later shot used

  • practical effects for her face sticking out of the windshield. Great! Dull Machete for lamest

  • kill, well, we can't break tradition here, folks. It goes to Tommy Ross. You'll always

  • have my vote, Tommy.

  • And that's it. The Carrie remake came out in 2013 and with prom season over and summer

  • officially here, I think it's time we thought about what we did LAST summer. We'll know

  • all about it next week, but until then I'm James A. Janisse. This has been the Kill Count.

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  • All right, bring on all the hate! "Dead Meat James hates the remakes!"

  • Which is NOT true, I like... some remakes.

  • For more of my thoughts about remakes, check out our Podcast episode on the subject!

  • Thanks everyone! Be good people.

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