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(door opens)
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(book rustling)
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(Mama exhales)
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(dishware clattering)
(pie tin clatters) - Oh, shit!
(Mama exhales)
(Mama exhales)
(back cracks)
(pie tin shuffling)
(cupboard door closes)
(dishware clattering)
- Mama.
Mama, what the hell are you doing
in here in the middle of the night?
- Did I wake you?
- Playing the cymbals like that? Of course you woke me.
(Mama exhales)
Are you all right? Do you need something?
- Just go on back to bed. I'm fine.
- Well, what are you looking for?
- [Mama] Brown sugar.
- Brown sugar? At 4:10 in the morning?
- [Mama] Yep.
- Why?
- I need it.
- You need brown sugar at 4:10 in the morning?
- That's right. - Well, you've finally
lost it.
- Why don't you go on back to bed?
- What are you doing?
- I'm making an apple pie.
- At 4:10 in the morning?
- That's right. - Why?
- Because it's your birthday and you like my apple pie.
- Oh, well, thank you very much.
But can't this wait 'til later?
- I'm 85 years old.
How much later do you think I got?
- You're not going anywhere for a while, trust me.
- Don't you be too sure about that.
I have got a busy schedule.
- Can't you at least wait 'til the sun comes up?
- No. I can't!
I woke up this morning knowing I needed
to make an apple pie first thing.
And I'm gonna make an apple pie first thing
if it's the last thing that I do.
And if all you're gonna do is criticize,
you can just go right back to bed.
- All right.
- Hey, why don't you help me?
- Help you? - Yeah, help me.
- It's 4:10 in the morning!
- We're both awake. - Not by choice.
Besides, I don't know how to make your apple pie.
- Well, it's about time you learned, don't you think?
I'm not gonna be around here to bake them for you forever.
- You are out of your mind.
- Grab those apples off the top of the fridge.
- Good God almighty.
Well, can I at least make some coffee first?
You got a running start on me. I got to catch up.
- Do what you need to do. I'm gonna go on about my business.
(Dory exhales)
(dial clicking)
(flame roaring)
(cutlery clattering)
- It's 4:10 in the morning, you know that, don't you?
- No, it's not. - Oh, yes, it is.
- No, it's not! It's 4:15.
(Dory laughs)
(spoon clinking)
- All right.
What can I do?
- Did you wash your hands?
- What am I, eight?
- There's a piecrust in the bottom of the freezer.
Why don't you get that out?
- [Dory] Oh, you're not gonna make a crust from scratch?
- Who the hell's got time to make a crust from scratch?
I haven't done that since you went through puberty.
I'd have to get up two hours ago
if I was gonna a make a crust from scratch.
No, I'm not making a crust from scratch.
Store-bought is just fine.
- Mama, this piecrust has been in here for over two years.
- [Mama] That's all right. It's still good.
- You sure it hasn't gone rancid?
- [Mama] You know what that's made out of?
- Yeah, flour and shortening.
- That's right. You know what shortening is?
- What? - Petroleum.
It's a fossil fuel.
If it can live in the middle
of the earth for 5 million years,
two more on my freezer's shelf ain't gonna hurt it any.
- Oh, shortening's not a fossil fuel.
- Suit yourself.
I don't have time to quibble about facts
that may or may not be true.
- Where do you want this?
- Take it out of the plastic and put it in here.
- All right, well, you don't want it in the tin?
Look, it comes in a tin. - Good God, no,
I don't want it in the tin.
Those flimsy aluminum tins aren't worth squat.
You need a good solid glass dish to make a piecrust.
Now, this is one of those nine-inch piecrusts.
But we're gonna put it in a 10-inch glass dish.
At least I think this is 10 inches.
24 centimeters? What the hell is that?
Is that...
10, 24...
Well, I don't care what they say, this is 10 inches.
So put it in here in the center and let it thaw.
- All right.
Okay. Like that?
- No, not like that, that's not the center.
It's got to be in the center.
Because once it's thawed,
you're not gonna be able to move it.
- But the crust doesn't reach all the way to the edge.
- That's because it's one of those
nine-inch crust in a 10-inch pan.
But they always give you more crust than you need.
Once it's thawed, we're gonna press it out real thin.
If you don't press it out real thin,
then it's just a thick crust.
And who the hell wants a mouthful of crust?
Now, set that over there.
- All right. What about the tin?
- What about it? - Want to save the tin?
- No, I don't want to save the tin.
I don't need a tin. Do you need a tin?
- No, I don't need a tin. - Well, then get rid of it.
- All right. (pie tin clatters)
- Now, the first thing I do is I make my crumb topping.
(Mama exhales)
(knife clinking)
Now, into this little bowl,
I want you to put two tablespoons of softened butter.
Now, I need to get my cups.
I need a half a cup, a third of a cup, a...
(spoons clattering)
What are you doing?
- [Dory] I'm measuring two tablespoons of butter
off this other stick so I can get just the right amount.
- Oh, here, give that to me. (Dory exhales)
Here.
Now, this is two tablespoons of butter.
- Well, how do you know that's exact?
- I don't. But it's exact enough.
That's what two tablespoons of butter look like.
I've been doing this long enough to know
what two tablespoons of butter looks like.
And that's it.
Now, to this two tablespoons of butter,
I want you to add a third of cup of flour.
- Third of a cup of flour.
- That's right, a third of a cup of flour.
(refrigerator door closes)
Then we need a third of a cup of brown sugar.
(spoon tapping)
- Third of a cup of brown sugar.
- [Mama] Are you packing it?
- Yes, I'm packing it.
- [Mama] Is it well-packed?
- Yes, it's well-packed.
- That's got to be well-packed
or you won't get enough. - It's well-packed, Mother.
- All right, let's see. All right.
Now, you've got your brown sugar
and your butter and your flour.
Not all recipes call for this,
but I like to throw in a little bit of cinnamon.
- All right, let me get you a measuring spoon.
- I don't need a measuring spoon for the cinnamon.
There.
That's enough cinnamon.
- Okay, how much is that?
- How the hell should I know?
It's enough, that's all you need to know.
And then I take a fork and I mash that butter right in
to the brown sugar and flour.
Now, some people say you should cut
this butter in with a knife-
- What people say that?
- I don't know, the one's who do it with a knife, I suppose.
But I don't like to do that.
I like to use a fork
so I can press that butter right between the prongs.
Now, this is not a fast job.
Nor is it one for a weakling.
It demands strength and time and patience.
- None of which you possess.
- That is correct.
And that is why I am passing the torch along to you.
(Dory groans)
Now, mm.
You just keep breaking down that butter
into the flour and sugar mixture.
Just break it down. Push.
Push.
Push, push.
- I am pushing.
- Well, yes. And you are.
And that is the way you get it done. Yeah.
Push.
Push. - Oh, God.
Don't you have something else to do?
You don't have to keep doing that.
- I'm just trying to help.
- Don't you have something else to do
besides look over my shoulder? (kettle whistling)
- All right.
- And go over there and make some coffee or something.
Finish the coffee.
(kettle continues whistling)
- You like my apple pie, don't you?
- [Dory] Sure do.
- Well, that's a good thing,
because that's all you're getting for your birthday.
I didn't buy you a gift.
- [Dory] That's all right.
- I thought about it.
- [Dory] That's nice.
- But I didn't get you anything.
- [Dory] I said that's all right.
- 'Cause, you know, I can't get to the store
unless you drive me, you know. - I know.
- So how the hell am I gonna buy you a surprise
when you're standing next to me
the whole time? - Mama, I said it's all right.
- So, I'm baking you a pie.
- I know and I appreciate that.
- Are you done yet?
- [Dory] No, I'm not done.
You said it takes patience.
- Well, it does.
But, still, you should be
done by now. - Well, I'm not.
(spoon clinking)
- I just didn't want you to think
that I forgot your birthday.
- I didn't.
- Since I didn't get you a gift.
- Mama, let it go. All is well.
I'm having a very happy birthday.
- You are? - Yes, I am.
I really am.
- You sure don't look like it. - I don't?
- No. You look sort of pissed off.
- Mama, I'm fine.
- Is it 'cause I didn't buy you a gift?
- Mama, stop it! I'm fine!
I don't need anything for my birthday except you!
- You think I don't pick up on your sarcasm, but I do.
- [Dory] God, Mama, can we just cook?
You crazy old lady.
- What? - I said you're
a crazy old lady.
(Mama laughs)
- Well, I'm not the only one. (laughs)
Have you looked in the mirror lately?
Happy 65th birthday, Grandma.
- I'm not a grandma yet.
The way things are going, I probably never will be.
- Oh, you don't know.
Your daughter may surprise you someday.
- Yeah, well, some surprises I don't need.
Nah, Maggie's not like you and me, Mama.
Maggie's an "independent career type woman"
who won't know she wants kids 'til it's too late.
Then she's gonna have some sort of midlife crisis about it,
and the next thing you know,
she'll be living with two hundred cats.
- Oh. (laughs)
- Yeah, well, thank God I won't be around to see that, huh?
All right, here. How is that?
- That looks fine.
- You sure? - Yep.
- All right. What do I do with it?
- Just set it aside.
- Set it aside? - Yeah, set it over there.
We're not gonna use it for a while.
- We're not gonna use it?
- We're gonna use it, we're just not gonna use it right now.
- Well, when are we gonna use it?
- Last thing.
Right as the pie goes
into the oven. - And when is that?
- Not for another 40 minutes or so.
- Why the hell did I go to all this work now, then?
- Because it needed to be done.
- Is there an order to all this?
- Yes. This is the order.
- Are you sure about that?
- This is my pie, and I get to choose the order.
And if you can't follow directions,
you can just go right back to bed.
- Oh, great.
- We need a large bowl.
(Dory groans)
A large bowl.
Hmm? - Oh.
- And into that bowl, we're gonna put white sugar,
brown sugar, flour, nutmeg, cinnamon, and salt.
- [Dory] What about the apples?
- What about them? - Aren't we gonna put
the apples in too?
- We're not putting the apples in yet.
- Well, why not?
- Are you going to question my recipe every step of the way?
- [Dory] Mm.
- We're gonna put the apples in;
we're just not putting the apples in yet.
There is an order. This is the order.
And now, we need a half a cup of granulated sugar.
(spoon clatters) Shit!
- Oh! When did you start using that word?
- What word? Shit?
- Yes. You shouldn't be saying that.
- I'm 85 years old.
If I want to say the word shit, I'll say the word shit.
- Well, I never use that word.
- Well, maybe you should.
Maybe you should try it out every once in a while.
Might make you feel better.
- I feel fine.
- Feel better if you said shit once in a while.
- Half a cup. This is half a cup.
There. Boop.
- And now, we need a quarter cup of brown sugar.
Now, not all recipes call for this, and that's just stupid.
I don't know see how you can make
an apple pie without brown sugar.
And it's got to be well-packed. Did I tell you that?
Now, look at this.
This is a well-packed quarter cup of brown sugar.
A quarter cup of brown sugar well-packed.
- All right, what is next?
- Now, we need a quarter cup of flour.
- Wait! Whoa.
Aren't you gonna wipe
that off first? - Wipe what off?
- Your quarter cup.
- My quarter cup's just fine.
- It's got brown sugar stuck to the sides of it.
- A little brown sugar never hurt anything.
Brown sugar just make about any recipe better.
I can't think of a single meal
wouldn't be better with brown sugar.
And if a little brown sugar falls off in the flour jar,
then it'll just be a nice little surprise for me
the next time I'm baking something.
And now, we need a half a teaspoon of cinnamon
and a half a teaspoon of nutmeg.
- [Dory] All right.
Let's see here. (spoons clattering)
- No, not those. - What?
- Those measuring spoons won't fit in the spice pan.
Whose stupid idea was that anyway?
Why would anybody ever make measuring spoons
that won't fit in a spice can?
(spoons jingling)
- [Dory] Mm.
- You can't pour spices onto a spoon, don't they know that?
Here, use this one.
- All right. Half a teaspoon of cinnamon.
- Now, don't, whoa, don't throw it in all in a clump.
Spread it out. Let everybody get to know it.
That's the way.
All right, and now, half a teaspoon of nutmeg.
- Nutmeg? What's the nutmeg do?
- I don't know. But I do miss it when it's gone.
- All right. - And we need some salt.
- How much?
- Oh, about that much.
- What was that?
- What? - What did you just
put in there?
- I put in some salt.
- But you didn't measure it. Was it a quarter teaspoon?
Was it a half a teaspoon?
- I don't know. It was that much.
- God, Mama, how am I supposed to learn your recipe
if you don't stick to a recipe?
- The recipe calls for a dash of salt.
I put in what I thought was a dash.
- Well, is a dash always that much?
- No!
It depends upon the day, and the time,
and how I'm feeling at that moment.
Today, I felt like that much was a dash. Good God almighty.
Grab a fork and stir all this around 'til it's one color.
And you're gonna have to break up that brown sugar.
(fork clattering)
What are you doing?
- Well, I'm breaking up the brown sugar.
- Like that? - You just told me to break up
the brown sugar, so I'm breaking up the brown sugar.
- Like that? - Yes, like that.
That's how I break up brown sugar. What's wrong with that?
- That's just not the way I do it.
- Oh, well, how do you do it?
- Well, I do it like this.
Mm-hmm. - Well, I don't
do it that way.
- Well, fine. - Well, fine, then.
- Fine.
Wish I had that 60 seconds back.
- Right there. How's that?
- Is that all one color?
- Mostly.
- Mostly's not all one color. I want one color.
It's got brown sugar and cinnamon and flour and nutmeg,
it should come out beige.
I want one color. Should come out beige.
- Oh, a beige is what you want,
then beige is what you'll get.
But some of this brown sugar won't break up.
- I know. Don't worry about it.
I said don't worry about it. - It won't break up.
- It'll just be a nice little surprise for your mouth
when you bite into that bite
and get a little extra brown sugar.
You see, that is one of the nice things about brown sugar.
You just never know what it's gonna do.
Sometimes, it's not there at all,
other times, it just kicks you in the teeth.
I just love brown sugar. (laughs)
I can't think of a single meal
wouldn't benefit from brown sugar.
- Shrimp scampi.
- [Mama] You could put brown sugar in shrimp scampi.
- Oh, you can, huh?
- Sure. - Yeah, well, why on earth
would you want to do that?
- [Mama] Why not?
- Tacos.
- Well, I suppose if you like sweet tacos, you could...
(Mama laughs)
I see what you're trying to do.
You're trying to catch me in a lie.
You're trying to think of something
wouldn't be better with brown sugar.
And I tell you this: you can just stand there all day long,
you're not gonna come up with anything.
- [Dory] All right, how does this look?
- Now, that's all one color.
That looks fine. Now, set that aside.
- Set this one aside too?
- Yeah, we don't need it right now.
- God, why am I doing all this work
we don't need done right now?
- Because you need to prep things ahead of time.
That's what we're doing,
we're prepping things ahead of time
so that when we need them, they're ready.
Good God, I'm glad you never worked for NASA,
we'd have never found ourself on the moon.
All right. Now, it's magic time.
It's time for us to get doing this,
get everything cleaned up.
Wait, what are you doing with those cups?
- What? - Those cups.
What are you doing with my measuring cups?
- Well, I'm putting them in the sink.
- Why? They're not dirty.
- Well, they've got flour and cinnamon on them.
- Well, just blow on them. It'll come right off.
It's just powder. We don't need to wash them.
- Fine.
- I mean, now, if it were wet,
if it were corn syrup or vanilla, well, sure, wash them.
But dry goods are fine. Dry goods are dry.
That's why they're called dry goods.
'Cause they're good when they're dry.
- All right. All right.
- And now, the apples. Woo-hoo.
Grab those apples and bring them over here
to the table so we can peel them, will you?
- Peel them? Peel them where?
- Right here on the table.
- We're gonna peel the apples right there on the table?
- That's right. - Well, where are
the peels gonna go?
- [Mama] Right here on the table.
- You're gonna put the peels right there on the table?
- What have I been saying?
- [Dory] The peels are gonna go all over the table.
- That's right. It's a table, it's not a Mercedes Benz.
We're cleaning it all up when we're done.
- Right. - Now, we need eight cups
of sliced apples, which translates into about six or seven.
But you know what I do?
- I hesitate to ask. - I use eight.
- Of course you do. Why do you do that?
- 'Cause they cook down.
Now, if you use those abnormally large,
genetically-altered apples from the grocery store,
then you probably only need about five.
But I like to use these smaller ones in the five-pound bag,
they're sweeter than those others.
- You're a genius.
- I know. - Mm-hmm.
What kinda apples are these?
- McIntosh. I won't use anything but McIntosh.
Now, your Aunt Sylvia swore by Granny Smith.
But those apples are just too damn tart.
Not that your Aunt Sylvia
and I saw eye-to-eye on most things anyway.
Okay, we got two, four, six. We need two more.
No. That one's got a dent in it.
- So? - Well, if you use an apple
with a dent in it, you lose a whole bite of pie.
- All right, there. - All right.
Now there's eight.
Now, we need the knife, the peeler, and the corer.
- The what? - The corer.
- The corer? - The corer that you core
the apples with.
- Oh, the apple slicer.
- Well, if you knew what it was, why'd you just keep asking?
(Dory chuckles) (utensils clattering)
Now, you take the corer,
the apple slicer, and you core those apples.
And then I'll core these.
- All right.
- Whew.
(Mama exhaling)
You know, I made an apple pie just like this
on the day you were born.
- Did you really?
- I just said I did.
Must have been some kinda nesting instinct or something.
- Nesting instinct. You had a nesting instinct.
- Well, sure I did. I think we all do.
At least subconsciously.
And I would not leave,
I had to have the house all cleaned up,
I had to have everything wrapped up, everything organized,
before my life changed forever.
And I would not leave for the hospital
'til that pie came out of the oven.
- Was Daddy angry?
- Your father? Oh, he wasn't here.
Your grandmother, my mother, took me to the hospital.
"Get in the car, Margaret," she said.
"Forget about that damn pie!"
- [Dory] Where was Daddy?
- Oh, he was somewhere, I don't know.
- [Dory] You don't remember?
- Well, that pie came out of the oven,
your grandmother hustled me into the car.
"Get in the car, Margaret," she said.
"Keep your legs crossed for God's sakes!" (laughs)
We got to that hospital.
You were born 30 minutes later.
- Do you remember that?
- Oh, like it was yesterday.
I don't remember all that much pain,
although they said I screamed my fair share.
But I remember that nurse.
When it was all over, she handed you to me and she said,
"Why, she's just as cute as a sugar cookie."
So, I called you Cookie those first few weeks.
You probably don't remember.
But your grandmother put a stop to that.
- So, you named me after her instead, then, huh?
- No, she named you after her. I kept calling you Cookie.
- You always said that you named me Dorothy.
- Well, I lie a lot.
- But you also said I was a good baby. Is that a lie too?
- You were great in still photos.
In real life, you were loud as hell.
(Mama laughs) - Well, I get that from you.
- Oh, and you couldn't stand being left alone.
As long as I was in the room, you were happy as a clam.
But if I had to leave to go to the bathroom or take a pee,
you screamed so loud you woke the neighbors.
Finally, I just took to carrying you with me
every place I went.
- I must have liked your company back then.
- I must have liked yours too.
Wait a minute.
- What? - There's core on that piece.
- There's what? - There's core on that
slice of apple.
You can't put core in a pie. Nobody likes core in their pie.
- That little bit? Is that really gonna matter?
- Gonna matter? Where were you raised?
I have never fed you core one time in your life.
And I'm certainly not gonna start now.
Now, you get a knife and you cut that out.
- All right. All right.
- And you be careful with that knife.
Don't get blood in my pie.
- I'm not gonna get any blood in your pie.
- Well, you would if you cut yourself.
- I'm not planning on cutting myself.
- Well, that's good thing.
Because we're gonna have enough
to clean up around here as it is.
I don't need your cold, lifeless body
at the same time to be cleaning up.
Wait a minute.
There's stem on that one.
You can't put stem in pie.
Nobody wants stem in their pie.
Good God in heaven. Where'd you ever learn to cook?
- From you.
- You didn't learn that from me.
I have never put stem in my pie.
- All right, look, you worry about your apples
and I'll worry about mine.
- No, I'm gonna worry about all the apples
'cause this is my pie.
- I thought it was my pie. I thought it was for my birthday.
- It's not your pie yet. It's my pie right now.
It's not your pie 'til it comes out of the oven.
And then you can do whatever you
damn well please with it. - All right.
Well, I am done coring my apples.
- Well, good. Then, now, you can do those, would you?
- Those are your apples.
- Good God, you've got 20 years on me.
Can't you do a little extra work?
Whew.
(faucet running)
I haven't had a bowl movement in three weeks.
- [Dory] Oh, good God, Mama. Are you all right?
- I don't eat as much as I used to either.
- Well, that's probably 'cause there's no place to put it.
What else is going on with you that I should know about?
- Nothing.
- Well, maybe we should have you checked out later today.
- I don't need to be checked out.
- Well, maybe you do.
- Well, maybe I don't.
Last thing I need is some young doctor sticking his fingers
up my butt trying to figure out what's slowing things
down up there. - Well, it couldn't hurt.
- Ha, I'm not too sure about that.
- No, I just meant that it wouldn't be a bad idea.
- Well, just make sure he's good-looking,
that's all I can say. (laughs)
- Maybe he'll look like Daddy.
- Oh, God, I hope not. (Dory laughs)
- I just meant, maybe he'll be suave and debonair.
- Well, if he's suave and debonair,
he won't be anything like your daddy.
- Now, Mama, stop it.
- Your daddy was an idiot.
- Stop it. Daddy wasn't an idiot.
- Only an idiot could die the way your daddy died.
- Mama, stop it.
Dying in a farming mishap doesn't make somebody an idiot.
- Your daddy drank himself to death. That was no mishap.
- Drank himself to death?
You always told me me
that died because of a machine malfunction.
- The machine malfunctioned
because he was drunk off his ass.
He was driving a hay baler
on a farm in Amarillo while intoxicated.
Lost control, fell into the machine,
and was spit out the other end wrapped up
like a happy little package.
By the time they unbaled him, he was dead as a doornail.
That never would have happened if he had been sober.
- I never knew that.
- Yep. Your daddy was a drunk.
- But you told me it was a machine malfunction.
- A hay baler is a machine.
- But you didn't tell me the truth.
Why didn't you tell me the truth before now?
- Why would you want to know the truth?
Weren't you happier thinking your daddy died
a noble death working the land,
instead of knowing he was a drunken idiot?
The truth isn't always the truth.
The truth is what you believe it to be.
- So, you lied to me?
- That's why most families lie,
to protect the innocents with ignorance.
Are you done there?
- Yes, I'm done. - Oh, good.
Then it's time to peel. Now, this is how I do it.
I take the peeler in one hand, I take a slice in this hand-
- All right.
Thank you. I know how to peel things.
I have peeled things before.
- All right, Miss Bossy-Boots,
I was just trying to give you a few pointers.
- Yeah, well, I think I can manage.
- Thank you.
- I can't believe you lied to me.
- It was for your own good.
- Well, shouldn't I be able to decide that?
- No.
(Dory exhales)
(Dory exhales)
- This is time-consuming.
- What, you've got someplace else to be
at four in the morning? - Well, yeah, in bed.
- [Mama] Ha.
- Did you know- - Mm?
- Aunt Lucy is in the hospital?
- Your father's sister? - Yeah.
- I didn't even know she was still alive.
- Oh, yeah, 92 years old.
- Whew. - Been living in Temecula
this whole time.
- Hmm. (Dory chuckles)
- Yeah, I called Cousin Mavis at the hospital this morning
and I said, "Mavis, what is wrong with your mama?"
And she said...
Know what she said? - What?
- "She's old."
(Mama laughs)
- That about sums it up, doesn't it?
God, Lucy Garlifini. I haven't thought about her in years.
- Lucy Gannon, Mama, we're talking about Daddy's sister.
- Huh.
I didn't know you were still in touch
with that side of the family.
- It's the only side left.
We visited them when we took the kids to Disneyland.
- Disneyland? - Yeah.
- That's got to be 20 years ago.
- Oh, no. More than 20.
That was the last family vacation
we took before the accident.
All four of us driving from Texas to California
in that Volkswagen Vanagon.
Living and eating and sleeping together
for two weeks in that van,
boy, I thought I was gonna lose my mind.
Louis said, "Oh, it'll be just like living in a motor home."
Well, Louis was wrong.
A Volkswagen Vanagon is not a motor home.
(Mama laughs) Far as I can tell,
it's not much more than a twin bed on wheels.
- Oh, Lord.
- But it got us there and back.
Anyway, we visited Aunt Lucy and Cousin Mavis on that trip.
- Mm.
(dog barking)
You've got a bruise on that one.
- Yeah, I see it. I'll just peel it away.
- Well, don't peel away too much.
You won't have any apple left.
- Oh, God, what kinda idiot do you think I am?
- I don't know, what kind of an idiot are you?
- Mavis was so calm on the phone.
I swear, sometimes, I wonder if she's got a pulse.
I said, "Mavis, aren't you worried about your mama?"
She said, "Well, what's there to be worried about?
I don't know anything yet.
I suppose if the doctors tell me
she's got cancer or something, then I'll be worried.
But until then, I'm just gonna sit here
and eat my tuna sandwich."
- Oh, God. - That's what she said.
(both laughing)
Oh, boy, she's a better woman than I am,
that's all I can say.
Oh, but I don't know, maybe she's right.
Maybe it's better to just wait for things to happen
and then deal with them.
The only one who suffers from worrying is the worrier.
'Cause I've been worrying about you for 20 years.
It hasn't gotten me a thing.
- Well, maybe you learned your lesson.
(Dory chuckles)
All right, now that we got some peeled,
it's time to take a few minutes
before they turn brown and slice them.
Now, you want to slice them like this.
Nice and thick.
No, that's too thin.
- Oh, okay.
Like that? - No, thick!
- That is thick.
- No, I mean thick. Like your head.
- All right, well, why slice them at all, then?
Why not just cover an apple in crust
and bake the whole damn thing?
(Mama laughs)
- Don't be sassy. (laughs)
You don't wear sassy well. (laughs)
All right, once you've got some peeled and sliced,
it is now time for the flour and sugar mixture.
- Oh, now we're gonna use it. - Woo-hoo.
(Mama laughs)
Now, after they're peeled and sliced,
you throw them in here, and you get them all well-covered.
- All right. - Stir them around there.
Get them all well-covered. There you go.
Get them all covered up.
- [Dory] Okay.
- And then you go back to peeling and slicing.
Peel, slice, stir, repeat.
Peel, slice, stir, repeat. - Yeah, you've got quite
a system here. - Yes, I do,
and don't you tamper with it.
All right, I am going to cover up that brown sugar
so that it don't get hard.
- [Dory] All right.
(Mama exhales)
- Oh.
- [Dory] Mama?
- Oh. - What is it?
- I'm dizzy. - Okay, all right.
Shh, shh, shh.
Here, come sit right down here.
Right there, right there. Right there.
Okay. All right.
Did you take you blood pressure medicine?
- I don't know. I think so.
- [Dory] All right, all right. Where is it?
- In the bathroom. - Okay.
All right, you're just gonna sit here now and keep still.
And I'll be right back.
(Mama exhaling)
(no audio)
(Mama exhales)
(Mama exhales)
(floor creaking)
(Mama exhales)
Why am I in here?
- My pills.
(Dory gasps)
- Oh, right.
(Mama exhales)
Right.
(Mama exhales)
What are you doing over there?
- Well, I figured as long as I was gonna die,
I should be in a comfortable chair with my feet up.
- You're not gonna die.
Here. Take one of these.
Okay.
Yeah, okay. Now, just sit here a while.
You see, this is what you get when you wake up
at four o'clock in the morning to make a pie.
Your whole system gets out of whack.
All right, now you're just gonna sit there,
and I will finish these.
(Mama exhales)
Mm.
(Mama exhales)
(Dory grunts)
(Dory exhales)
- I am scared of dying.
- You're not gonna die, Mama.
- Well, I am someday. And it scares me.
- Well, don't think about it then. Let's change the subject.
- Don't think about it? I'm 85 years old.
What else is there to think about?
- Well, let's talk about Howard.
- Howard's dead.
- Mama. All right, let's talk about your friends.
- My friends are all dead.
(Dory exhales)
- Mama, stop it. They're not all dead.
What about Carolyn Wicker? She's not dead.
- She might as well be.
Ever since that stroke last year,
she can't walk, she can't talk, and she does is drool.
That's not living.
- Yeah, you're right about that.
- Just when you get everything figured out,
everything starts to fall apart.
Getting old just sucks.
- [Dory] Oh, I know it.
- You?
Oh, you haven't even started to age yet. Just you wait.
First, you start farting for no reason at all.
And then, every time you laugh, you pee your pants.
Parts of your body start to ache
you didn't even know you had.
Yeah, getting old is just a hoot.
Then you forget things, you can't sleep,
and then you find yourself awake
in the middle of the night making an apple pie.
And suddenly, it all makes sense.
And you go, "Yeah, uh-huh, that's right."
As far as I can see, the only good thing
to come out of aging is I no longer have to have my period.
Good God almighty, if I had to fool with that
at this stage of my life,
I think I'd just take out a gun
and shoot myself in the head!
There's peel on that slice.
- There's what?
- [Mama] There's peel on that slice of apple.
- Oh, just a sliver. You can barely see it.
- [Mama] I can see it from all the way over here.
There's no slivers of peel in my pie.
If you want slivers of peel in your pie,
you should make your own damn pie.
- Seems to me I am making my own damn pie.
So, I'm gonna leave that little sliver
of peel right on there.
Then when I come across it,
when I bite into that little sliver of peel,
I'm gonna say, "Mm-mm.
Do you taste that little sliver of peel?
Boy, is that yummy."
(fork clattering)
- You've got a real attitude problem there, you know that?
- [Dory] God.
(Mama exhales)
- What were we talking about?
- I don't remember.
- Oh, gosh.
Ugh!
- How are you feeling?
- I'm all right.
- Are you lying? - Yep.
- Well, you just sit there for a while.
(Mama exhales)
These spells have become more frequent.
- Have they? - You know they have.
This is the third one this week.
- Fourth. I didn't tell you about one.
- Well, maybe we should have your medicines checked.
Maybe they should up the dosage, or change it all together.
- Oh, maybe.
- Yeah, we'll tell them about it
when we go and see them later today.
I'll call and make an appointment
after the rest of the town wakes up.
- It's not gonna do any good.
- What do you mean, of course it will do some good.
What do you mean by that?
- I'm dying, Dory.
- You're old, Mama, you're not dying.
- One leads to the other.
- Not today, it doesn't.
I swear to God, Mama, if you spoil my birthday by dying,
you will never hear the end of it.
- You know what would make me feel better?
- I shudder to think.
- If you find a man before I died.
- Oh, for me or for you?
- Well, I wouldn't mind one for myself,
but it'd probably kill me.
- Well, if you're dying anyway,
you might as well go out with a bang.
- No, I mean for you, you need a man.
- Mama, I do not need a man.
- Well, you need somebody.
I'm not gonna be around here
to look after you forever, you know.
- Look after me? I'm here looking after you.
- You are? - Yes.
- Well, you're not doing a very good job, then.
- What does that mean?
- Well, look at me.
- You look bright and sunny to me.
- Well, I don't feel bright and sunny.
- [Dory] Yeah, well, just wait for that medicine
to start working, you'll be dancing around here in no time.
- I don't mean physically, I mean up here.
Getting old is depressing.
Life used to be so easy.
When I was younger, and I mean just a couple of years ago,
I'd do things without even thinking about it.
But life's gotten more difficult lately.
It's a lot of work just to get through a day now.
And sometimes, my body just feels so heavy,
I think I'm not gonna be able
to carry myself around anymore.
And that's depressing.
That's not gonna get any better,
that's just gonna get worse.
But there is one thing that would make me really happy.
- [Dory] Oh, Mama.
- You can't deny an old, dying woman's last request.
- Mama, I'm not gonna hook-up with some fella
just to make you happy.
- I'd do it for you.
- Look, if you want to see me with a man,
then stare at that picture of me and Louis over there
'cause short of buying a puppy,
that's as close to a hairy chest that I'll ever get again.
- Oh, I hate a hairy chest on a man. Ugh.
Just creeps me out.
I like them smooth and tall and tan.
(Dory chuckles)
- Looks like somebody's medicine's starting to kick in.
(both chuckling)
- Oh, you dropped one there on the floor.
- Oh, I know I dropped one. I'll get it.
(Dory grunts)
- [Mama] Whoa, whoa!
What are you doing? - I'm gonna throw it away.
- [Mama] What do you mean you're gonna throw it away?
- Just what I said.
I dropped this slice on the floor, the floor is dirty,
I'm gonna to throw it away. - No, whoa, wait, whoa.
- What are you doing? Just sit down, Mama.
No, hey, Mama, don't.
Oh...
(faucet running)
- There.
Good as new.
You were going to throw away perfectly good apple.
Who raised you?
- You raised me.
- Well, I did a horrible job, then.
- [Dory] Fine, fine. Whatever.
- No daughter of mine should be throwing away
perfectly good apple just because it fell on the floor.
When I was little, we are our food
right off the floor. - Oh, you did not.
Stop it. - And we were happy about it.
- [Dory] Would you go sit down?
- Now, that looks good.
There are some thick ones. That's very good.
- [Dory] Yeah, that's because I'm tired
as hell of doing this and I figured
that if I made them bigger, then they would be done sooner.
- Well, what about this one?
- Yeah, I got a little thin with that one.
(Mama laughs)
- That looks like a potato chip.
- It'll add character to the pie.
- My pie does not need character.
- Give me that. Here.
(Dory humming)
(Mama humming)
- You have no respect for tradition, do you?
- Okay, I am making a pie at four o'clock in the morning.
I don't think that's part of the tradition.
So, please, just sit down.
- You know, you can't make a good pie
unless your heart's not in it. (Dory exhales)
That's a fact.
- Thank you.
Sit.
(knife tapping)
(Mama exhales)
- When was the last time you heard from Maggie?
- Maggie? My Maggie?
- Your daughter. You remember her?
- Gosh. I don't know.
Why?
- Oh, no reason.
I was just thinking about her last week.
- God, let me think.
Maggie and I, we haven't spoken in,
well, I guess it's got to be two years now.
- Oh, don't you miss her? - Of course I miss her.
- Well, why haven't you called her, then?
- Then why hasn't she called me?
When she was little, we used to talk all the time.
We'd talk about which boys she had a crush on
or what her interests were.
But ever since the accident,
the gaps between our talks
just keep getting bigger and bigger and...
God, after Louis and Michael were gone,
when it was just the two of us in the house,
she could go days at a time without talking to me.
The bottom line is, Mama, she doesn't like me anymore.
- Now, that is ridiculous. - No, that's true.
I know it's true.
Oh, God, it's funny, isn't it?
I haven't spoken to her in over two years.
And I think about her every day.
- Well, it can't last forever.
Silence was made to be broken.
Pull your sleeve down.
- What? - Pull your sleeve down.
I can see them. You know how I hate seeing those.
- I'm sorry.
(Dory exhales)
So sorry.
Okay.
All right. This is the last of them.
(dog barking)
- All right, then. - There we go.
- Just stir those all in.
- Okay. - Get them going there.
Another one.
- Okay.
- Now, get them covered up.
- Okay, I think they're stirred in and well-covered.
- I think that looks pretty good.
- All right, good.
Well, you like that, huh?
- I think you did a fine job.
- Thank you very much.
- And now- (Dory snorts)
- No. - Set that aside.
(both laughing)
- You've got to be kidding me.
Are we ever gonna put this thing together?
- Yes. But set that aside.
First, we have to deal with that crust,
which is now nicely thawed.
- Okay. (chuckles)
- Now, we're gonna take this crust
and we're gonna squoosh it all the way out
to the sides of the dish.
- Okay.
- And make it real thin.
- Okay. Okay.
Like that?
- Even thinner.
- Mm. Okay.
Really? - That's right, I'm not lying.
- Okay. - And this ridge part
up at the top, just press that out flat.
- [Dory] Uh-huh.
- And then, if you get any holes in it,
you just mush them together.
- Oh, this is gonna make for a very thin piecrust.
- Well, you need a thin piecrust.
- Okay. - There you go.
If you get any holes in the bottom, you just mush them
back together. - Okay.
- Once it starts cooking,
it's gonna melt itself together anyway.
Now, there you go.
I got to tell you- (Dory laughs)
There is your piecrust. - Oh, my.
- Woo-hoo! - Well, I have to say,
that was a lot easier than making one from scratch.
- Damn anything's easier than making one from scratch.
Hell, I'd give birth again before I do that.
(Mama laughs) - Okay, let me guess,
you want me to set this aside now, don't you?
- No, Miss Smarty Pants.
I want you to take this piecrust and set it in the freezer.
- In the freezer? - That's right.
- We just took it out of the freezer.
Why are we putting it back in?
- 'Cause it bakes up better if it's chilled.
- Why?
- I don't know, it just does.
I don't know the scientific reason.
But the crust comes out flakier
if the shortening is chilled.
- You're pulling my leg.
- Why the hell would I pull your leg
over something as stupid as chilling a piecrust?
- God only knows.
- This is the way my mama did it before,
it's the way I do it now. - All right, then.
Back into the freezer it goes.
- And now, we need to deal with this oven.
It needs to be preheated
to 425 degrees. - Okay.
425 degrees.
(dial clicks) - All right, now.
You are ready now for the biggest secret of all.
Are you ready? This is just gonna blow your mind.
- [Dory] It is, huh?
- Grab that big skillet out of the drawer.
- Okay. This one here?
- That's the one.
- [Dory] Okay.
- Can you guess what we're gonna do with that?
- Can it get us arrested?
- We're gonna preheat the apples on top of the stove.
(Mama laughs) - That's it?
That's your big secret?
- It's a pretty big secret. Don't you tell anyone.
- Who would I tell? So what, we're not gonna bake this pie?
- Of course we're gonna bake it, it's a "baked apple pie."
But if you just take those raw apples,
and stick them in the crust, and put it in the oven,
those are gonna come out crunchy.
And we want them to be soft but firm.
- Well, why don't you just bake it longer?
- Because then the crust would burn.
So, my little secret is to pre-cook the apples
on top of the stove. - Oh.
If Hitler had known this, he might have won that war.
- If you pre-cook the apples, they come out al dente.
- Al dente?
- It's an Italian word.
- Yes, I'm familiar with the word,
I've just never heard it applied to apples before.
- Oh, al dente can refer to lots of things.
Matter of fact, Howard and I once had
a bed that was al dente.
- Soft but firm.
- That's right. (Dory chuckles)
In fact, oftentimes,
when we were in the bed, we were al dente.
I was soft and he was firm.
- Let's just keep cooking, all right?
- What's the matter?
Have you lost your sense of humor all of a sudden?
- Just trying not to throw up.
- You're no fun at all anymore.
Now, get us some butter.
We need two tablespoons of butter right here in this pan.
- All right.
Okay.
That looks like two tablespoons to me.
- All right. There you go.
There is hope for you yet.
(both laughing)
Now, we just need to wait for that butter to melt
and cover the bottom of the pan.
- Oh, boy.
You know who would have loved this pie?
- Who's that? - Michael.
Oh, Michael loved your cooking.
- Yes, he did. (Dory exhales)
- Oh, I miss him.
- I know you do. So do I.
- Mm. I still dream about him, you know.
(Dory chuckles)
And when I do, he's always eight years old.
I don't know why, he always is.
Just is.
My Little Fellow, oh, that's what called him,
my Little Fellow.
Never even saw 15.
- He was a good boy. You really raised a good boy, Dory.
- You think so?
- Might have been gay, but he was a good boy.
All right.
Your butter is melting, your oven is preheating,
it is time to make Mama's Apple Pie!
Now, grab that piecrust out of the freezer
and put it here in your 425-degree oven
for exactly five minutes.
- You want me to put this in the oven?
- For exactly five minutes.
- There's not a damn thing in this piecrust, woman.
You know that, don't you?
- Oh, ye of little culinary skill.
If you don't pre-cook that piecrust a little,
it's gonna come out mushy instead of crisp.
And we want it to be crisp.
So, my little secret is to give it a little headstart
in the oven for the same five minutes
that we're pre-cooking the apples on top of the stove
for the same five minutes. - Mm-hmm.
Yeah, well, if you would've pre-cooked
all this last night, we'd be done by now.
- You have a very short fuse, you know that?
Now, quick as a bunny, grab those apples
and pour them right here on top of this butter.
- Right there on top of the butter?
- [Mama] That's right.
- All right.
- And get all that flour and sugar mixture in there with it.
(apples sizzling)
There you go.
Now, on a medium-low flame,
we're gonna slowly saute those apples for five minutes.
- Oh, the same five minutes
that the crust is in the oven. - That's right.
- Yeah, you just said that a minute ago.
You're starting to repeat yourself.
- I only said it once, you repeated it.
I'm just agreeing with you.
(Dory chuckles) Now, stir all that around,
don't let it get stuck to the bottom.
That sugar'll just turn to asphalt
if you don't keep it moving.
- Okay. - Now, smell that.
Take a whiff.
- [Dory] Mm.
- The brown sugar and the flour and the butter
and the cinnamon and the juice
from those apples are mixing together
to create an aromatic glaze that is simply to die for.
You smell that?
- I smell that.
- Is that not to die for?
- That is to die for.
- Making this pie reminds me of my mama.
She taught me this recipe,
and now I'm passing it along to you.
And someday, you'll pass it along to Maggie.
- Maggie doesn't cook, Mama.
Maggie's a poster child for the fast food industry.
- Oh, you don't know.
Someday, she may get her act together
and get married and have kids of her own, you don't know.
- Yeah, someday, she may do a hell of a lot of things
but come visit me or give me a call,
that's not gonna be among them,
I can tell you that right now. - You don't know.
Everybody matures at their own pace.
Keep stirring. Stirring.
- Okay. It's got nothing to do with maturity, Mama.
She resents me, that's the problem.
- Well, everybody gets over their resentments in time.
I think age does that to you. Maggie's no different.
She just needs a little more time, that's all.
- Mama, Maggie is 35 years old.
How much more time does she get?
Now, what it is, is that she blames me
for the accident. - I know.
- Which is just ridiculous because it wasn't my fault.
But damn if I can convince her of that.
- Well, she can't blame you forever.
- Well, I think that's her intention.
Last I heard, she was dating a man twice her age,
and I know it's just to piss me off.
All right, maybe it's just some sort
of father-figure substitute type thing, I don't know.
Here, how does that look?
- Now, that looks fine. Turn off your flame now.
Let those just sit there while your crust finishes.
We can clean up a little bit.
- Boy...
(faucet running)
Louis was a better father than I was a mother.
- Oh, what a thing to say.
- Maggie used to tell me that.
- Well, if she'd said that to me, I'd'a slapped in the face.
- Yeah, well, I would have too
if I didn't think she was right.
See, Maggie had a bond with her daddy
that I just never could match.
But I tried.
I tried to fill that void, hmm?
After Louis was gone, I tried being her sister.
Tried being her friend. What I couldn't be was her daddy.
And, God, that's what she needed.
That's what she wanted.
- You did your best you could.
That's all anybody can ask of you.
And I think she's gonna come around in time. I really do.
Everybody ripens when the sun comes up. She'll ripen too.
- Who are you all of a sudden, the Dalai Lama?
The sun comes up and everybody ripens?
What the hell does that mean?
- Means I'm a genius.
(timer ringing) Oh!
There's the timer. All right, let's make a pie!
Grab some mitts and get that piecrust out of the oven
and set it right there.
- Okay.
Here we go.
- There you go.
And now, quick as a bunny,
grab those apples and pour them in here on top.
- [Dory] Right there on top?
- Right here on top.
- [Dory] Okay.
- There you go.
Get all that flower and sugar mixture in there with it.
There you go.
Now, you want to get that in there and spread it out,
you don't want any mountains in the middle.
'Cause your crumb topping needs a flat surface,
so you need it nice and flat.
Are you hearing me? Flat.
- Yeah, that is flat.
- Does that look flat to you? - Yeah, that's flat.
- That's not flat. - Sure, it's flat.
- What's that? - All right, (groans)
it's not entirely flat.
There. Ooh!
- When I say the word flat, what does it mean to you?
I say flat, do you think pancake or do you think porcupine?
- I know what flat is, Mother. - I don't think you do.
Otherwise, that'd be flat. Give me that to me.
Now, this is flat.
Get your crumb topping
and bring it over here. (Dory gasps)
- My God, the Holy Grail,
the time has finally come for my crumb topping.
- Oh, why don't you stop talking about it
and get over here for heaven's sakes?
Now, get this all around.
All around on the edges and every place.
I just love a crumb topping.
It's so light and airy on your tongue. Sorta just dances.
A double crust pie does not dance on your tongue,
it just lays there.
Now, get all these corners.
Don't leave any apples underexposed or they'll likely burn.
Get them all the way out there, the edge.
There you go. - That's good.
- I think this is ready for the oven.
- All right.
- So slide that puppy in the oven.
- Okay. - And set your timer
for 30 minutes, and we will be on our way.
- [Dory] Oh, so it takes about 30 minutes, huh?
- Not about 30 minutes, 30 minutes exactly.
- [Dory] All right, then. 30 minutes.
- And in one half hour,
you will have the most delectable pie
that your tongue has ever experienced.
(Dory exhales)
All right, now the pie's in the oven,
we need to clean up a bit.
Oh, got a bunch of peels there on the floor.
- Well, yeah, well...
Mama? - Mm-hmm?
- How is it that you get up
at four o'clock in the morning to bake a pie,
and yet I am doing all the work?
- [Mama] I guess I'm just smarter than you.
- [Dory] Hey, what is this?
- Oh, it lives down there now.
I just needed some more room on the shelf.
- Mm-hmm.
(Dory chuckles)
Mama? - Mm-hmm?
- Did you ever love Daddy?
- What an odd question to ask out of the blue.
- [Dory] Well, no, the way you were talking
about him before, falling into the hay baler and all,
you didn't sound like a woman who loved him very much.
- Oh, I suppose I did. It's hard to love a drunk.
Harder still to love a coward.
And your father was most of those things.
- [Dory] Why did you ever go out with him
in the first place?
- 'Cause he had a big dick.
- Oh, my good God.
Where is your tact nowadays?
- I don't need tact.
I'm 85 years old. I can say anything I damn well please.
Besides, didn't you ever go out with a man
just 'cause he had a big dick?
- [Dory] What?
- I said, didn't you ever go out with guy-
- No, no, Mama. I heard what you said.
I just can't believe you said it.
- Well, didn't you?
- [Dory] Well, yeah.
- Yeah? - Yeah.
- Damn right, yeah.
- But how did you know?
- What? That he had a big dick?
- Oh, would you stop saying that?
- Well, you asked.
- But I'm trying to be discreet.
- You can't be discreet about something like that.
You just have to blurt it out.
I knew because he wore those tight,
stretchy jeans back then.
He knew what he had. He was advertising.
First time he came towards me,
I thought I was being charged by a rhino.
(Dory laughs)
- [Dory] But it wasn't enough, huh?
- Oh, it was plenty.
- No. I mean, it wasn't enough to save the marriage.
- Dory, I need to tell you something.
- Okay. What is it?
- You're 65 years old now,
you're probably old enough to deal with this.
(Dory gasps)
- My good God, you're a democrat, aren't you?
- What?
(Dory chuckles) No, I'm not a democrat.
For God's sakes. - Okay.
What is it, then?
- Your father and I were never married.
- [Dory] What?
- You heard me.
- You were never married?
- [Mama] No.
- I'm finding this out now?
- [Mama] Yep.
- You waited all these years and you never told me?
- [Mama] That's right.
- Well, when were you planning on telling me?
- [Mama] Eventually.
- Eventually? Mama, you are 85 years old.
How much more eventually were you planning on using up?
- Well, I was cleaning out my closet over the weekend
and I saw some photographs of him, and I thought,
well, now might be the right time to tell you.
- How many skeletons have you got in that closet of yours?
- Oh, I've got quite a few. How many have you got?
- I don't have any.
- You will by the time I'm finished talking.
- God, I can't believe you never told me.
- I did, I just told you right now.
I swear, you're never satisfied.
- I just assumed the two of you got divorced
when I was a baby.
- I know. And I just let you think that all these years.
But you said you wanted the truth and so there it is.
You're not gonna cry, are you?
- No.
I mean, I suppose it doesn't much matter.
It doesn't change the way I feel about you.
It's just a little odd finding
these secrets out this late in life.
- Well, I'm sorry.
That's just the way life is, just full of little secrets.
- So, then, technically, I'm a bastard.
- Yep. That's right.
You're a bastard.
- What's the female word for bastard?
- Bastard.
- Really? It's not bastress, or something like that?
- No, I think you're just a bastard.
- Thank you. I think you're one too.
- Hey, while you're up,
why don't you get me some more coffee?
- I'm not up.
- Well, then get up and get me some more coffee.
(Dory exhales)
- [Dory] Now, wait a minute.
If you and Daddy were never married,
how did you end up with his last name?
- Oh, I just took it.
- [Dory] You took it?
- Yeah, I took it.
When it became clear to me
that he wasn't gonna give it to me himself,
I just went over to the courthouse
and had my name legally changed to his.
I didn't want him trying to pretend that you weren't his.
And I didn't want you going through life
with a stigma around your neck.
Nowadays, women are just popping out babies right and left,
not caring who the father is, sometimes not even knowing.
But back then, a woman out of wedlock giving birth
to a bastard was frowned upon.
- So you became Margaret Jackson
all those years just for me?
- Well, it wasn't that hard. (laughs)
When your maiden name is Strogonavich,
Jackson just seems like a happy accident.
And then I married Howard and became Margaret Garlifini.
So I was Polish and British and Italian
and never left the country. (kettle whistling)
- So, you never lived together?
- No.
He'd show up in town from time to time
and tell me all the things I needed to hear.
And that usually resulted in a night of passion.
And then by the morning, he'd be gone.
Finally, when you were about three,
I just told him to take a hike.
- Why did you do that?
- Because he wanted to have another baby.
- With you?
- Of course, with me. What the hell's that supposed to mean?
- I'm just asking.
- I said there's just no way
I'm gonna raise two kids by myself.
If you want to have another baby,
it's gonna cost you a diamond ring.
- So, what happened?
- Well, you know what happened. We never married.
Suppose that big cock of his
just kept him too busy to ever think about settling down.
And then when I wouldn't open up
those golden gates anymore- - Okay, Mother, please.
Please.
- Well, he just stopped coming around.
- Well, that's not totally true.
I remember him stopping by from time to time
when I was growing up.
- [Mama] Well, that's right, but he didn't come to see me.
He was coming to see you.
He really liked being your daddy,
he just didn't know how to do it very well.
Do you remember him at all?
- Sort of. I remember he was really tall.
- [Mama] That's because you were really short.
How old were you the last time you saw him?
- Oh, the last time I saw him, I was 11 years old.
- [Mama] That sounds about right.
- Yeah, I know I was 11
because that was the year that I had sixth grade spelling,
and that week, one of the words I had to learn was autopsy,
and I didn't know what it meant.
So, he was around, so I asked him, I said,
"What's an autopsy?"
And he said, "Your last physical."
(both laughing)
- Daddy.
- So, I told this to all my friends.
I did, I said, "You know how you go to the doctor
every year for your physical?
Well, your last one's an autopsy."
I had half the class using this word wrong
before the teacher set us straight.
(Mama laughs)
- [Mama] He must have had his last physical soon after that.
- Yeah, that summer.
- Sounds about right. I married Howard soon after he died.
Oh, now, they're all gone. - Yeah.
- Daddy and Louis and Michael.
I swear, men are just unreliable.
Every time the dishes need washing, they just up and die.
(Dory chuckles)
Those dry goods aren't gonna put themselves away, you know.
- They're not, huh?
Is that your subtle way of telling me to do it?
- I wasn't trying to be subtle. Pull your sleeve down.
- Well, I guess I should call Cousin Mavis
at the hospital this morning and see how Aunt Lucy's doing.
- 92 years old, is that what you said?
- Yeah. - Good for her.
Your father and I visited Aunt Lucy once.
- In Temecula?
- No, they were living in El Paso at the time.
We drove all through the night
with you curled up in the back seat.
You probably don't remember. You were just one-year-old.
- No, but pretty sure we didn't get there
in a Volkswagen Vanagon.
(Mama laughs)
- No, we did not.
- Hmm.
So, if I was only a year old,
then Mavis wasn't even born yet, was she?
- Not quite.
- [Dory] And you didn't keep in touch
with Aunt Lucy over all the years?
- No, we sorta had a falling-out early on.
- [Dory] Over what?
- Oh, I don't remember right now.
First met Howard on that trip.
- Howard? Yeah, Howard's from El Paso, wasn't he?
- Well, look who's still got a memory.
Yes, he was. I'm surprised you still remember that.
- Hmm.
So he knew Aunt Lucy too.
- How'd you know that? Did your aunt tell you that?
- [Dory] What? No, no.
No, I was just asking. Why, were they friends?
- You could say that.
- [Dory] Huh.
I never knew that.
- Yeah, they were good friends.
- So, all those years you were married to Howard,
I don't ever remember him mentioning Aunt Lucy.
- Well, they sorta had a falling-out too.
- Huh.
So, they must have moved to Temecula
soon after that visit of yours.
- I don't know. I suppose so.
Why?
- Well, because Mavis was born in Temecula,
she's lived her whole life there.
So if I'm only a year-and-a-half older than her-
- You're nosy today.
- What?
- You're like a bloodhound on a scent.
Where are you going with this?
- Nowhere.
- Look, you don't get to pass judgment
on all the decisions I made in my life.
Some of my secrets are just going to my grave with me,
and that is the way that is gonna be.
- Look, it was just idle chat.
- Well, let's just idle chat about something else, then,
for God's sake. - All right, all right.
- Good God almighty. - Okay, I said all right!
(both exhaling)
- Have you ever ridden a skateboard?
- Seriously? That's what we're gonna talk about now?
- [Mama] I'd like to ride a skateboard.
- Right now?
- [Mama] You got one?
- No.
- Well, maybe later, then.
(Dory exhales)
- Yeah, you on a skateboard,
that will be quite a sight, you know.
Why would you want to ride a skateboard?
They're dangerous, you know. You can break a hip.
- At my age, I could break a hip
just getting out of bed in the morning.
That's not my point.
- Okay, so what is your point?
- My point is it looks like fun.
- Fun? Oh, yeah.
Well, so does skinny-dipping,
but I'm not gonna do that at my age either.
- You're a sour-suck.
- A sour-suck?
- Living with you is like sucking on a lemon.
- Yeah, well, you're no jelly donut, you know.
Fun is overrated at our age.
- You see, that is the difference between us.
- What is?
- I still want to have fun, you've given up on it.
- Oh, I haven't given up on anything.
- You've given up on everything.
- No, I haven't given up on anything. That's just not true.
I just happen to know what my limitations are
at this point in my life.
And you don't.
You still want to run and jump and play like a prairie dog.
- Well, what's wrong with that?
I'm just a young person trapped inside an old body,
while you're an old person trapped inside
a young body. - What does that mean?
- You go around here all day acting like your life is over.
65 is not old.
I'd kill to be 65 again.
- I'm not even middle aged anymore, Mama.
65 is well past middle age.
- That doesn't mean you're dead.
You need to go out and find yourself a man.
- Oh, see, yeah!
Here we go. Here we go.
- [Mama] It'd knock a few years off you.
- Mama, the last thing I need is a man.
- No, I'd say the first thing you need is a man.
- No, Mama, I am not in any position to have sex nowadays.
- Oh, I don't know, that looks like a pretty good one.
- Good Lord. - When was the last time?
- What? - The last time you had sex,
when was it? - No, mm-mm.
I'm not gonna stand here and discuss my sex life with you.
- It'd be a short conversation.
The last time I had sex-
- No! I don't need to know this.
- You don't find it interesting?
- No.
- Really? - No, no.
Not in the least. So, please, Mama, just shut up.
- What about that Ed fella?
- What? What are you talking about?
- Ed, Ed that fella you
hung out with a couple years- - No.
Mama, that was over a year ago.
- Well? Maybe he's interested in you.
- He hasn't called in a year.
Does that sound interested to you?
- Well, maybe he hasn't called
'cause he lost your phone number.
- Or maybe he hasn't called because he died.
Either way, it doesn't sound promising, does it?
- Maybe you should call him, then.
- Why?
- Maybe you'd like to find someone to grow old with.
I'm not gonna be around here to entertain you forever.
- Oh, yeah, because it is your soft shoe
that gets me up in the morning.
- You know what I mean.
You don't want to die alone.
- I'm not gonna die alone, Mama.
I've got you.
And you are clearly gonna outlive everybody
because the ornery ones always do.
So, maybe you ought to call Ed.
- Well, maybe I will.
- Mm, fine.
- Fine! - Fine, then!
Fine.
(Mama exhaling)
What do you want me to do with these apples?
- [Mama] Oh, I don't care.
- [Dory] You want to save them?
- You're not gonna throw them away, are you?
- [Dory] Are you planning on making
something else with them?
- No, I think I'm done.
- [Dory] All right, well, they'll be in the fridge
if you change your mind.
- What were we talking about?
- [Dory] I don't remember.
- Oh, good lord. Here we go again.
Men, that was it. - Oh, yeah, right, men.
- That was it. That was it.
I was gonna say you need to find yourself
a fella like Howard.
- [Dory] Oh, Mama, they don't make fellas
like Howard anymore.
- Oh. He was my little Rock of Gibraltar.
Loyal as a puppy and just as happy.
- He was a good man, Mama. - Yes, he was.
He was a shy, though, and quiet,
I don't think he said a hundred words
the whole time we were married.
- But he had a good heart.
- Yes, he did.
Shame it had to stop ticking. Right there in the Circle K.
I went to the next aisle to get some Diet Rite,
I came back, he was dead on the floor.
- Just horrible.
- I'll always remember his last words.
- What were they? - "I love you."
- Oh, that's so sweet.
- He was reading a greeting card.
And then just fell on the floor.
- Unbelievable.
- I was your age, 65.
- Do you miss him?
- Oh. I think I miss him more now than when he first died.
But you remember, I had his ashes spread
up there on the mountain.
So, every spring when those cactus flowers come into bloom,
I just feel like he's paying me a visit.
- That is sweet.
- You know, they charged me for that greeting card.
- What? - Yeah.
Said they couldn't resell it.
- That's terrible.
- Well, he did wrinkle it.
And he adored you.
He treated you better than his own daughter.
- He had a daughter?
- Well, if he had a daughter.
He treated you like his own.
- Mm, yeah.
He was so tickled when I asked him
to walk me up the aisle. (chuckles)
His face turned bright red.
(Mama laughs)
- Yeah, shy men are like that.
Oh. (laughs)
I remember the first time I had him over to the house.
I offered him some of my homemade fudge, and I said,
"Do you want the male fudge or the female fudge?"
And he said, "What's the difference?"
And I said, "Well, the male fudge has nuts."
(both laughing)
Bright red!
(both laughing)
In fact, the first time we slept together,
his faced turned the color- - Oh, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
No. That's far enough, old woman.
We do not need to go any further with that story.
- It's really good one. - Oh, no.
No, thank you. - Well, you're just
missing out. - No, thank you.
Mama. Mama?
How many apple pies do you think
that you've made over the years?
- I don't know. At least a hundred.
Probably more.
- And how long does it take to make an apple pie?
- How long? - Yeah.
From start to finish, how long would you say it takes?
- Oh, I don't know, hour and 20 minutes.
- So, 80 minutes.
- That sounds about right.
- All right, so that's 100 pies at 80 minutes a pie,
that's 8,000 minutes.
8,000 minutes you've spent making apple pies. Hmm.
- That's about right.
(Dory laughs)
- 8,000 minutes. That's about nearly a week.
Nearly a week of your life
you've spent doing nothing but making apple pies.
- Well, that sounds like a pretty good use of my time
on this earth, don't you think?
Oh, my God. - Yes, I do.
I certainly do. (Mama laughs)
- Oh. - Muah.
(hand tapping)
♪ Show me the way to go home ♪ - Oh, my goodness.
♪ I'm tired and I want to go to bed ♪
♪ I had a little drink about an hour ago ♪
♪ And it went right ♪
♪ To my head ♪ ♪ Silver bell ♪
♪ Wherever I may roam ♪
- [Dory] Whoa.
♪ On land, or sea, or foam ♪
♪ You can always hear me singing this song ♪
♪ Show me the way to go home ♪
♪ Woo-hoo ♪ ♪ Boom boom ♪
- We've still got it!
(both laughing)
Remember how we used to sing that song
when you came home from school?
- Yeah. Yeah.
Yes, I do. It's one of my favorite memories.
You'd come from the kitchen, I'd come from the hall,
we'd come together and we would dance like we had no cares.
- Oh, we didn't back then.
- Boy. What made you think of that?
- Oh. (laughs) You got me thinking of your daddy.
That was his favorite song.
- That was? - Yeah.
- [Dory] Huh.
- He and your aunt used to sing that
right after they'd tied one on.
- Daddy and your sister?
- Yeah, they were drinking buddies,
among other things. - Oh, my God.
- I always thought that a sad little song,
but your daddy had a way of singing it,
made it seem real happy.
- Yeah, you know, I taught that routine
to Maggie when she was little.
And there was a year or so there when she was seven or eight
when she refused to go to bed until we'd danced together.
- Dancing makes everything seem a little bit better,
doesn't it? - Yeah, sure does.
- I need to get to my chair,
I think. - Okay, here.
Here we go. - Here we go.
- Yeah.
(Mama exhales) Mm-hmm.
Okay?
- Life is good.
- Yeah, life is good.
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- I called Ed.
- You did what? - I called Ed.
That Ed fella.
- [Dory] Yes, I know who he is.
- Well, I called him.
- Just now?
- No. A few days ago.
- Why on earth would you do that?
- Well, 'cause he needed to be called.
And for the record, he's not dead.
- Oh, well, thank you.
- In fact, he's free Friday night.
- What? - I said he's free
Friday night. - What did you do?
- I didn't do anything.
(Dory exhales)
But he's be picking you up after eight.
- What? - He's picking you...
What, are you going deaf? Eight, eight!
- Oh, God.
What, you made a date for me?
- Well, you weren't making one for yourself.
- Mother, I'm 65 years old.
I do not need you making dates for me.
I'm perfectly capable of making my own dates.
- Well, why don't you, then? - Because I choose not to.
- Well, that's just dumb. You're running out of time.
- Well, that's a horrible thing to say.
- Well, it's true. - Yeah, well,
I know it's true.
But you just don't say that to somebody.
I'm very upset with you, Mama.
I mean, just how could you do such a thing?
- It was easy, I picked up the phone-
- Okay. Okay.
Can't believe you sometimes. Really.
- [Mama] What?
- Eight. - Yes.
- This Friday.
- Yes. - Mm-hmm, well,
that's just ridiculous.
You should have made it seven.
You know I can't stay up past 10.
- What?
- Seven, seven! What, are you going deaf?
- Well, why don't you just call him and change it yourself?
I mean, I put his number right up there on the fridge.
- Really, I cannot believe you sometimes.
What has gotten into you?
- Life has gotten into me.
(Dory exhales)
- Oh, my goodness gracious.
This changes everything.
- [Mama] Good.
(paper rustles)
(oven door opens) (Dory gasps)
- [Dory] Mama, I think it's done.
- [Mama] Has the timer gone off?
- No. - Then it's not done.
- [Dory] Well, but it's getting brown on top.
- [Mama] Yeah.
- [Dory] Well, do you want to come and look at it?
- [Mama] No, I don't want to look at it.
- [Dory] Well, maybe you should just peek.
- No, I don't want to look at it
until it's done and it's not done.
- [Dory] Well, how do you know
without looking at it? - Because the timer
hasn't gone off.
Now, close that door or it's never gonna finish cooking.
(Dory exhales)
(oven door closes)
- I can't believe you made a date for me.
It's like high school all over again.
Can you imagine what Maggie would say
if she knew I had a date?
- I think she'd be happy for you.
- No, I doubt that.
No, in her mind, I'm supposed to live in perpetual mourning
as punishment for my crime.
- You didn't commit a crime.
Now, you've got to stop
thinking like that. - Mama, I know I didn't.
But just try telling her that.
I don't know how she could blame me
for an accident I had nothing to do with.
But she does.
- I don't think she blames you for the accident.
I think she blames you for sending them out
that morning in the first place.
I know that's not right, but I think that's what she does.
I think she's decided that if you hadn't sent them
out that day to start with, they'd still be here.
- And probably they would.
But how was I supposed to know
that trip was gonna kill them?
I sent Louis and Michael to the market, that's all I did.
- I know. - And Louis had driven
to that store a million times
without even getting a scratch on him.
But this one time there's a collision
and, suddenly, it's all my fault, why?
Because I asked them to pick up some ice cream for dessert?
Hell, people go out all the time for dessert
and they live to tell about it.
- Well, I think, in time,
that she's gonna come around.
I really do.
I think all people, over time,
come to realize the randomness of life,
that says this person's gonna live
and that person's gonna fall into a hay baler.
Arbitrary nature of things.
Maggie's a good girl.
She's grown up since the last time you talked to her.
I think she's gonna come around. Now, you just wait and see.
- You've been talking with her, haven't you?
- What?
- You've been talking to her.
What did you do, did you call her up?
Did you send her a letter?
- I did no such thing.
- Well, you have been talking to her.
I can tell by the way you're talking now.
- Oh, I texted her, if you must know, Miss Nosy.
- You text? - Nearly broke my thumbs off.
- And?
- And she called me right back.
We had a nice phone conversation.
- So, why didn't you tell me about this?
- 'Cause it's none of your damn business.
Besides, she asked me not to.
- Well, I tell you things all the time
that people tell me not to say.
- That's why you have so few friends.
- Okay, so what did she say?
- Well, I'm not gonna go into the whole thing with you.
But I will say this, she's starting to come around.
She misses you, Dory.
She didn't talk angry about you at all this time.
And we didn't even talk about Louis and Michael.
We mostly we talked about the weather.
- Oh, my God, she's coming for a visit, isn't she?
- Why would you say something like that?
- Because Maggie never goes anywhere
without the appropriate wardrobe.
Yeah, when we took vacations when she was little,
she'd check the weather reports days ahead of time.
She is coming for a visit, isn't she?
Mama, isn't she?
- Oh, well, damn you!
Now you just spoiled your own surprise.
- What surprise?
- Yes, she is coming here later today
to surprise you for your birthday.
Now you dragged it out of me. Are you satisfied?
- Shit!
- There you go. (chuckles)
Don't you feel better?
- What are we gonna talk about?
- Well, it's not like you're strangers.
- [Dory] Mm-mm.
- She's your daughter. Just like you're mine.
You talk to me all the time. Even when I don't want you to.
- But, Mama, we haven't seen each other in over two years.
- It'll just be like that piecrust from the freezer.
Once it was thawed, it was fine. Wasn't it?
- Mama, what am I gonna say to her?
What am I gonna say?
- Why don't you ask her about her pregnancy?
- She's pregnant?
- Yep.
- Shit!
- Ask her who the father is.
- Who's the father?
- She doesn't know.
- Shit!
(both laughing)
- I don't know about you, (laughs)
but I feel better hearing
you say shit. - Oh, my God,
what a day this is gonna be, Mama.
- You can say that again. - Oh, God.
You know what?
- What? - I do feel
a little bit better.
- All right.
It's a good word, isn't it? - Uh-huh.
- Happy birthday, Dory. - Oh, thank you, Mama.
(birds chirping) - I love you.
- Oh, and I love you too.
Mm.
Look at that.
Look, the sun, oh, it's coming up on the mountain.
Isn't that pretty?
Oh, it's a brand new day, Mama.
It is a brand new day.
(timer ringing) Oh, there's the timer.
It's ready. The pie's ready, Mama.
I'll get it.
(Dory chuckles)
(oven door opens)
Oh! Look at that, Mama.
Look at that. (sniffs)
Ah, do you smell that?
Oh, boy. That is one beautiful pie.
(Dory chuckles)
Here we go. Don't you think so, Mama?
Mama?
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