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  • JOHN YANG: Tonight on PBS News Weekend, as the  gambling capital of the world prepares to host  

  • tonight's Super Bowl, the growing ties between pro  sports and sports betting companies, then what's  

  • behind the nationwide surge in syphilis cases, and  what can be done to reverse the trend. And writer  

  • and filmmaker Curtis Chin on what he learned  growing up at his family's Chinese restaurant.

  • CURTIS CHIN, Filmmaker and Writer: It just  really taught me this idea of being able to  

  • talk to people that are different from  you, not being afraid to ask for help,  

  • not being afraid of asking questions in lifeSo many fundamental things about the way I  

  • look at the world and how I deal with people  came because of working in that restaurant.

  • (BREAK)

  • JOHN YANG: Good evening. I'm John Yang. Once  again, former President Donald Trump's remarks  

  • at a campaign speech are drawing fire from both  allies around the world and rivals in the United  

  • States. Yesterday in South Carolina, Trump  said he told NATO countries that as President,  

  • he would encourage Russian aggression if  they don't pay what they owe the alliance.

  • DONALD TRUMP, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL  CANDIDATE: And they said you got to pay  

  • up. They asked me that question. One of the  presidents of a big country stood up said,  

  • well, sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by  Russia, will you protect us? I said you didn't  

  • pay your delinquent. He said yes. Let's say that  happened. No, I would not protect you. In fact, I  

  • would encourage them to do whatever the hell they  want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.

  • JOHN YANG: The head of NATO said Trump's  comments put U.S. and European forces  

  • risk. The White House called his  words appalling and unhinged. Nikki  

  • Haley Trump's top remaining Republican  rival fired back on CBS Face the Nation.

  • NIKKI HALEY, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL  CANDIDATE: Don't take the side of a thug who  

  • kills his opponents, don't take the side  of someone who has gone in and invaded a  

  • country and half a million people have  died or been wounded because of Putin.

  • Now, we do want NATO allies to pull their  weight. But there are ways you can do that  

  • without sitting there and telling Russia have your  way with these countries. That's not what we want.

  • JOHN YANG: Trump also mocked Haley's husband  for not campaigning with her. Michael Haley  

  • is actually serving in the Horn of Africa with  the South Carolina Army National Guard. Today  

  • Nikki Haley said it's part of Trump's pattern  of disparaging U.S. troops and their families.

  • And we are just learning that Secretary of  Defense Lloyd Austin is back at Walter Reed  

  • Medical Center for the Pentagon says our  symptoms suggesting an emergent bladder  

  • issue. Austin had been in Walter Reed last  month for treatment of prostate cancer.

  • As a bill with money for Ukraine cleared  a key hurdle in the Senate today,  

  • Kyiv said it shot down more than 40  Russian drones that had been launched  

  • across the country in a barrage that lasted  nearly six hours, and Ukrainian president  

  • Volodymyr Zelenskyy named a new commander of  ground forces in hopes of spurring frontline  

  • progress. It's Oleksandr Pavliuk, who  had been first deputy defense minister.

  • President Biden told Israeli Prime  Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today  

  • that an Israeli ground offensive in  Rafah should not go ahead without a  

  • credible plan to protect the more than  1 million civilians trapped there.

  • It came to leaders first call since  Mr. Biden called Israel's campaign  

  • in Gaza over the top. On ABC's this  week before the two leaders spoke,  

  • Netanyahu defended Israel's efforts  to minimize civilian casualties.

  • BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTERWe've brought down the civilian to terrorists  

  • casualties, the ratio down below one to  one which is considerably less than in any  

  • other theater of similar warfare and we're  going to do more. We're going to provide --

  • MAN: Wait a minute. You're saying it's only been  

  • one civilian that's been killed  for one Hamas terrorist in Gaza?

  • NETANYAHU: Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

  • JOHN YANG: Netanyahu also said that  enough of the remaining Israeli  

  • hostages are still alive to justify the  war despite the high cost in human lives.

  • In the Philippines, the death toll in  a landslide last week now stands at  

  • 54. More bodies were recovered from the mud  and the hard hit Southern Village of Masara.  

  • Rescue efforts have been hampered  by heavy rain and the threat of  

  • more landslides. More than 1100 families have  been evacuated. 63 people are still missing.

  • Still to come on PBS News Weekendhow cases of a sexually transmitted  

  • infection that was nearly eradicated  decades ago are hitting record numbers.  

  • And what one writer learned working  in his family's Chinese restaurant.

  • (BREAK)

  • JOHN YANG: Not so long ago, a Super Bowl in  Las Vegas would have been unthinkable. Pro  

  • sports avoided anything to do with gambling. As  recently as 2015, the NFL made a fantasy sports  

  • convention off limits for players because  it was held next to a Las Vegas casino.

  • But tonight The Super Bowl is being played  with inside of the Vegas Strip. Not only  

  • that pro sports leagues and individual  teams rake in millions of dollars a  

  • year in partnership and ad revenue from sports  betting companies like DraftKings and FanDuel.

  • Andrew Brandt is director of Villanova  University's Moorad Center for the Study  

  • of Sports Law. He's also a former Green  Bay Packers executive and the host of a  

  • podcast called the Business of Sports which  we should note is sponsored by DraftKings.

  • Andrew, when you were helping one  of the Packers in the early 2000s,  

  • could you ever imagine that the NFL would  be embracing gambling the way it is now?

  • ANDREW BRANDT, Villanova UniversityJohn, I could not there is no area  

  • of sports business in sports law that has  undergone a sea change like sports betting.  

  • We could not get near any kind of bet back  in the day, even before it worked for the  

  • Packers. Everything about sports betting  and sports from leagues, from the NCAA,  

  • from teams, from commissioners from owners  taboo, it's taboo. You cannot go near there.

  • And it's mind boggling to me that today we're  playing a Super Bowl in the mecca of gambling  

  • of this country, Las Vegas, it just shows  you how things have changed over the last  

  • few years. Something I would have never thought  while working for the Packers in the early 2000s.

  • JOHN YANG: What's the brief version  of how we got here from there?

  • ANDREW BRANDT: State of New Jersey was trying to  

  • implement sports betting over a period  of time and they were blocked because  

  • of some law that was in the books in 1992  that didn't allow states to implement it.

  • Chris Christie in New Jersey went to court  it lasted seven years and all the leagues  

  • including the NFL fought it in court  spent tens of millions of dollars of  

  • legal fees. And lo and behold on May 14  2018, the league's lost, New Jersey won.

  • The decision from the Supreme Court didn't  legalize sports betting John but what it  

  • did was allow states to implement  sports betting and as of today,  

  • there are 38 states and the District of  Columbia that are now legalized sports betting.

  • The other part of it is the lore of Vegas. Vegas  is a town that had everything. It had fun. It  

  • had shows, it had concerts, but it didn't have  sports. And then the NHL went there. Then the  

  • Las Vegas Aces of the WNBA went there. And then of  course, the Oakland Raiders became the Las Vegas  

  • Raiders. The NFL to me lost all their moral high  ground when they place a franchise in Las Vegas.

  • JOHN YANG: You say they've lost the moral high  ground but this week, Commissioner Goodell talked  

  • about the integrity of the game working to  maintain the integrity of the game. This  

  • season they've suspended a number of players for  violating gambling rules. And yet they're making  

  • money from this revenue from gambling sports  betting companies. What do you think of that?

  • ANDREW BRANDT: Yeah, well, you mentioned the  word integrity that has been the mantra of  

  • the NFL since I was working in it. Every time  they thought sports betting it's the integrity,  

  • integrity, integrity, we've come to a point  where monetization has outdueled integrity.

  • Leagues, teams, owners can embrace  sports betting. Their investors in  

  • sports betting. FanDuel, DraftKingsthey sponsor every team. Some of the  

  • NFL owners are early investors with  equity portions in those companies,  

  • but players can't. And that's really the  dichotomy we have here. Do as I say, not as I do.

  • JOHN YANG: This past week leading up to  the Super Bowl, you have this sort of  

  • dichotomy of the obviously the players in  the Super Bowl can't even go into casinos.  

  • But NFL players who are just visiting  for the game can gamble in casinos.

  • ANDREW BRANDT: Yeah, of course the players on  the teams are way away from the strip but come  

  • the end of the game on Sunday night, they can  do whatever they want. They can be in casinos,  

  • they can do appearances in casinos, of coursethey have to walk through casinos to get anywhere.

  • But they can't do sports betting in  the casinos. It's a delicate dance.  

  • It's a paradoxical situation. It doesn't  seem to make sense to the average person.  

  • But that's the way the NFL is trying  to sort of thread the needle later.

  • JOHN YANG: It used to be the broadcaster's would  talk about point spreads in code with a wink and  

  • a nod. But now they're talking about it  openly on broadcasts on pregame shows,  

  • and that sort of thing. Has this  changed the way we consume sports?

  • ANDREW BRANDT: It absolutely has. I mean, listenwhat sports leagues are always trying to do is  

  • attract a younger, more technical audience. What  brings in a younger, more technical audience,  

  • it's gambling, its bets. The average number of NFL  games watched by a non-better is 15. Pretty much  

  • your home team's games. The average games watched  for a better is 50 games, the NFL knows that set.

  • So it is putting it out there and  all the programming you can't watch  

  • or listen to a sports program without having that.  

  • So it's all around us. It's embedded  in our sports consciousness right now.

  • JOHN YANG: To what extent is the NFL or  can the NFL be seen as encouraging sports  

  • betting? And could people get in over their heads?

  • ANDREW BRANDT: They rely on this  2018 Supreme Court decision and  

  • they're jumping in just like  everyone else is because hey,  

  • it's legal, and there's monetization  from it. And we can't be behind anymore.

  • The problem is, where is the line as you  talked about. We're not allowing players  

  • to gamble. We've had players suspended  throughout the season for betting. So  

  • it is still this, as I keep saying  this, do as I say don't do as I do,  

  • because then fellas embrace it. They're  embedded in, but players cannot steal.

  • JOHN YANG: As you point out, we got  a couple of NFL owners who are hold  

  • stakes in these betting companies in the  NBA, you've got the owner of a casino  

  • operator about to buy the Dallas MavericksWhat are the dangers and pitfalls in this?

  • ANDREW BRANDT: This is something that  is fraught with potential problems.  

  • I've always said these leagues need  to hire gambling czars that really  

  • can cut through all of the potential  difficulties in dealing with this.

  • But as I said, once these leaks place teams  in Las Vegas, now we have a Super Bowl in Las  

  • Vegas. They have embraced the potential  for lack of integrity after promoting  

  • integrity in everything they do. So this  is a dichotomy we have to really assess.

  • JOHN YANG: Andrew Brandt of Villanova  University. Thank you very much.

  • ANDREW BRANDT: Thank you.

  • JOHN YANG: According to the CDC, the number  of syphilis cases in the United States is  

  • the highest it's been since the 1950s. Ali  Rogin looks at what's behind this surge of  

  • this sexually transmitted infection or STI and  what public health officials are doing about it.

  • ALI ROGIN: Syphilis was close to  being eradicated in the U.S. in  

  • the 1990s. But in the decades since funding  for prevention and treatment has stagnated,  

  • and the number of cases has risen  steadily. According to the latest  

  • report from the CDC cases of syphilis shot  up 80 percent from 2018 to 2022 alone.

  • Dr. Philip Chan is the Chief Medical  Officer for Open Door health,  

  • a center for LGBTQ plus patients in Rhode Island,  

  • and an associate professor at Brown UniversityDr. Chan, thank you so much for joining us.

  • Why are syphilis cases on the riseAnd should we be concerned about this?

  • DR. PHILIP CHAN, Brown University: Syphilisunfortunately, has been increasing for a  

  • couple of decades here in the U.S. as largely gone  unnoticed. It's increasing now and circulating  

  • among the cisgender heterosexual population. And  we just aren't testing enough. And we don't have  

  • the infrastructure needed to address this increase  not only in syphilis, but also other STIs.

  • ALI ROGIN: As you mentioned, cases arising among  cisgender people, particularly cisgender women  

  • and heterosexual people. Why are we seeing the  increases in those populations in particular?

  • PHILIP CHAN: I think the simplest has  gotten a foothold in that population,  

  • and especially among populations that have been  marginalized, a little bit more African American,  

  • black, Hispanic, Latinx communities, and  we're just seeing spread because we aren't  

  • testing enough. Congenital syphilis  especially is a huge concern. It can  

  • cause really significant complications for  the unborn baby up to and including death.

  • A lot of women from especially underserved  communities aren't getting prenatal care. It  

  • is recommended and required in many states that  pregnant women do undergo syphilis testing. So  

  • the fact that we're missing these cases the  fact that we're seeing congenital syphilis I  

  • think shows us that a lot of folks aren't  getting the prenatal care that they need.

  • ALI ROGIN: How did the COVID 19 pandemic disrupt  STI treatment and detection of syphilis cases?

  • PHILIP CHAN: What we saw during the pandemic  with a lot of clinics closed, while the staff  

  • were reassigned to deal with COVID-19, in a lot of  cases went undiagnosed. I think on the other hand,  

  • a lot of folks had less sex potentially. So we  may not have been seeing a lot of transmission.  

  • But there was definitely some transmission  that was going on that was unrecognized.

  • ALI ROGIN: The rising cases in the last decade has  coincided with a drop in funding for STI screening  

  • and prevention, Congress cut $400 billion for  disease investigators as part of the debt ceiling  

  • negotiation last year, how is this going to affect  the existing resources for testing and detection?

  • PHILIP CHAN: I think the health departments  in all states are really critical centers for  

  • addressing the STI epidemic. They're  responsible for communicating with  

  • partners for disseminating funding for contact  tration, and partner notification services.

  • So this reduction in funding has  really been harmful to the health  

  • departments. We definitely need  more infrastructure. We need more  

  • funding. We need more resources  to address this increase in STIs.

  • ALI ROGIN: And since last year, there's  also been a shortage of penicillin,  

  • which is the most effective drug  used to treat syphilis in adults and  

  • the only drug that can treat pregnant  women to prevent congenital syphilis.

  • How are people dealing with that shortage? And and  

  • will the shortages make the  existing problem even worse?

  • PHILIP CHAN: So the good news is that syphilis  remains highly sensitive to penicillin,  

  • which is a generally a common antibioticUnfortunately, you do need a little bit  

  • of a long acting formulation. At this time, we  are having a shortage of benzathine penicillin,  

  • the formulation that we use to treat  syphilis, and specifically in pregnant women.

  • What we're doing is really prioritizing people  who are pregnant for the benzathine penicillin.  

  • We're using alternative antibiotics  for other people. It's not great,  

  • but it's what we're doing  while there's a shortage.

  • ALI ROGIN: Yeah, we're aware that  there are efforts to use a drug  

  • called doxycycline as post exposure  prophylaxis, how effective is that?

  • PHILIP CHAN: This is one of the most exciting  things in the field of STIs. A lot of us are  

  • really hopeful that it's going to be a game  changer as we talk about addressing STIs. So  

  • doxycycline is a pretty common antibioticAnd there's studies now that show that  

  • it's really effective in preventing  syphilis, Chlamydia, and gonorrhea.

  • So we expect some CDC recommendations  in the near future, but it's going to  

  • be recommended to prevent STIs, the  data is strongest in gay bisexual  

  • other men go sex with men and transgender  women. We're hoping it's really going to  

  • be a game changer in preventing  and addressing the STI epidemic.

  • ALI ROGIN: He mentioned a few other STI  is gonorrhea and chlamydia. Interestingly,  

  • gonorrhea is down slightly for the first time in  a decade and Chlamydia cases have remained stable.  

  • If these infections are resulting from those  same sexual practices and health issues that  

  • we've already discussed. Why are those other two  rates stabilizing while Syphilis is on the rise?

  • PHILIP CHAN: Well, I think it's good news. I  think it also remains to be seen. This is a  

  • single data point from last year the data  that we have, but reassuringly these STIs  

  • have remained stable. But I think it remains  to be seen whether or not this trend continues.

  • I do think all these STIs are  transmitted slightly differently,  

  • slightly different attack rates in terms  of being transmitted to other people.  

  • And I think for things like gonorrhea  especially we see slightly less attack  

  • rates and potential for transmission  compared to a committee of specialists.

  • ALI ROGIN: Dr. Philip Chan, Chief Medical  Officer for Open Door Health and associate  

  • professor at Brown UniversityThank you so much for your time.

  • PHILIP CHAN: Thank you for having me.

  • JOHN YANG: Curtis Chin spent a lot of  his childhood at Chung's his family's  

  • Chinese restaurant in Detroit. He was a waiter,  

  • the host and then as the neighborhood got  grittier, he was security watching the door.

  • At one point he assumed that he like his father  and grandparents would spend his life there.  

  • Instead, he became a writer and filmmaker, a  founder of the Asian American Writers Workshop.

  • Chung's closed in 2000 after six decades  of serving customers. It also provided Chin  

  • life lessons and shaped his worldviewHe's written about it in his memoir,  

  • everything I learned I learned  in a Chinese restaurant.

  • Curtis Chen, welcome. What did you learn?

  • CURTIS CHIN: I learned everything in that  Chinese restaurant, not just how to cook,  

  • but how to deal with people. But I also learned  about family history. The City of Detroit,  

  • it was just a really, really great place.

  • JOHN YANG: Are there lessons you  still live today or you use today?

  • CURTIS CHIN: Oh, yeah, constantly. I mean,  

  • I always say that the very first lesson was  something my dad taught me. When you're a kid,  

  • oftentimes people say don't talk to strangersMy parents gave me the exact opposite advice.  

  • They said talk to strangers and who they  were talking about were the people sitting  

  • in our dining room because my mom didn't have  a chance to graduate high school. My dad went  

  • to community college for two semesters before  he had to quit and work in the business again.

  • And so they didn't know what opportunities  existed outside of those four walls,  

  • but they knew they had a dining room  full of people that did. And so anytime  

  • my dad met somebody who thought he had  a cool job, or just seemed really happy,  

  • he called all six of his kids to run over  there and barrage them with questions of  

  • what do you do for a living? How did you  get your job? How much money do you make?

  • And it just really taught me this idea of being  able to talk to people that are different from  

  • you, not being afraid to ask for help. Not being  afraid of asking questions in life. And so yeah,  

  • I -- so many fundamental things about  the way I look at the world and how I  

  • deal with people came because  of working in that restaurant.

  • JOHN YANG: Detroit also was sort  of a major character in the book.

  • CURTIS CHIN: Yeah.

  • JOHN YANG: How did it affect youHow did Detroit affect you? And  

  • what do you carry with you from  Detroit as you go through life?

  • CURTIS CHIN: Well, I think it's like the  sweatshirt says Detroit vs. Everybody.  

  • I think that when you grew up incity that is constantly picked on,  

  • you're like, you feel like the rest of the  country was bullying us in a lot of ways.

  • And so we're very proud of who  we are. And we stick to our guns  

  • about Detroit. I know there were a lot  of challenges growing up in Detroit,  

  • particularly in the 80s. The car companies  were struggling, there was crack cocaine,  

  • there was AIDS. You know, I knew five people  murdered by the time I was 18 years old. But I  

  • always say I wouldn't trade my childhood for  anything. I was a really great experience.

  • JOHN YANG: Talking about the auto industry, the  80s and 1982, of course, there was a well-known  

  • case, a Chinese American named Vincent Chin  was killed, beaten to death by to laid off  

  • auto workers who were blaming him for what  happened to their jobs. How did that affect you?

  • CURTIS CHIN: That case probably changed  my life in the sense of before that I was  

  • going to be a Chinese waiter for the rest of  my life. I mean, it was a great restaurant,  

  • my family was out there, I got all the free  food I wanted. But then that night that he  

  • was killed our families or friendsyou know, my uncle was his best man.

  • And so you know, when we found out that Vincent  had been attacked, and he was in the hospital,  

  • I immediately checked the newspapers, right,  

  • I didn't see anything reported then.  I didn't see anything the next day,  

  • the next day after that, after that, it took the  media 12 days before they actually covered it.

  • Meanwhile, everybody's coming to our  restaurant asking for details about the case,  

  • what we heard had happened, that disparity  between what the Chinese American or Asian  

  • American community wants to know versus  what the mainstream media was covering,  

  • really made me think about, well, who gets to  tell the stories, you know, and I think that  

  • when the judge only find these guys $3,000, and  they never had to serve a single day in jail.

  • I really thought that if the media had done  a better job of telling the stories of Asian  

  • Americans, that he probably would not have given  that sentence. And so in that sense, I thought,  

  • like, I, maybe I could be one of those people  to go out and tell the stories of our community.

  • JOHN YANG: There was also the not just the  media ignoring it. But there was also this  

  • wave of anti-Asian feeling in Detroit at  the time. And I'm wondering if you found  

  • echoes of that during the pandemic, with  sort of Asian Americans being villainized.

  • PHILIP CHAN: So my family has been in this  country since the 1800s. And I think that in  

  • a lot of ways, the discrimination that  my great, great grandfather felt when  

  • he first came to this country parallels the  discrimination that I sometimes face, right,  

  • this perception that was Asian Americanswere not really loyal to this country,  

  • you know, with COVID, this idea that we  were dirty, you know, that we had diseases.

  • If you look back at history, those are the  same things they were saying about the first  

  • Asians that were coming to this country. And so  yeah, I feel like there's a parallel. I think  

  • the main difference, though, is that how are we  as Asian Americans responding to it. And I feel  

  • like that you can point to a lot of progress in  the sense that we're much stronger community now.

  • We have a lot of infrastructure, we're  able to stand up when people, you know,  

  • are perpetrating all this anti-Asian hate crimeswe're actually doing something about it. And so  

  • I think that has been really exciting for meand why I'm very optimistic about the future.

  • JOHN YANG: Why did you write the memoir and  what do you hope readers will take away from it?

  • PHILIP CHAN: We live in a very  divided country right now,  

  • right? We have these little silos where  didn't talk to each other. But it feels  

  • like Chinese restaurants are one of those  few places where you can actually see  

  • people from different races, socioeconomic  backgrounds, religion, sexual orientation.

  • And if we just took the opportunity to just,  

  • you know, maybe lean across the table over us  and just say, hey, what are you eating? Like,  

  • maybe those are the little things that our  country, you know, as people that live in  

  • this country need to do, we just need to start  being able to, like, engage with each other,  

  • and I feel like food, you know, and places we  get food are places that are perfect for that.

  • And so, as I said to my friends, it's likethe book I'm pitching is comfort the egg grows,  

  • but stay for the talk on racism, you  know, because these are very important  

  • topics for us to discuss in this country.  I wouldn't want us to shy away from them.

  • But let's do in a way that actually brings  us together that that heals our country that  

  • allows us to move forward and maybe having a nice  plate of Chinese food, you know, will help that.

  • JOHN YANG: The book is "Everything  I learned I learned at a Chinese  

  • Restaurant." The author was Curtis  chin. Curtis, thank you very much.

  • CURTIS CHIN: Thank you.

  • JOHN YANG: And that is PBS News Weekend  for this Sunday. I'm John Yang.

  • For all of my colleagues, thanks for  joining us. Have a good week.

JOHN YANG: Tonight on PBS News Weekend, as the  gambling capital of the world prepares to host  

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