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  • GEOFF BENNETT: Good evening.

  • I'm Geoff Bennett.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: And I'm Amna Nawaz.

  • On the "NewsHour" tonight: Congressional leaders meet President Biden to negotiate a spending

  • deal and try to avoid a government shutdown in days.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Michigan Democrats wonder how many will vote uncommitted in the state's

  • presidential primary tonight to protest President Biden's handling of the Israel-Hamas war.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: And outrage over the alleged murder of a university student by a Venezuelan migrant

  • fans the flames of immigration politics.

  • CHARIS KUBRIN, University of California, Irvine: We need to pay attention to broader factors

  • that contribute to this kind of senseless violence, rather than simply aiming our targets

  • at immigrants.

  • (BREAK)

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Welcome to the "NewsHour."

  • The top four leaders in Congress met with President Biden in the Oval Office today to

  • discuss how to fund the government and what should happen next for U.S. support of Ukraine.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Congress faces a number of crises this week, as leaders race to meet

  • deadlines, including one that could spark a partial government shutdown.

  • Funding runs out for parts of the government late Friday.

  • And, as we have been reporting, Ukrainians say, without more U.S. support, they will

  • lose the war.

  • Lisa Desjardins has been following it all and joins us now.

  • So, Lisa, this meeting was significant, especially for House Speaker Johnson, who, of all the

  • people in that room in the Oval Office, is likely the one who determines how things progress.

  • Give us a sense of what happened.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Well, it was significant.

  • You're right.

  • And what happened here was a meeting that was serious.

  • We know all the leaders came out.

  • They said it was positive discussion, but it was in some ways intense.

  • It wasn't a classical meeting, in the sense that it was a little bit lopsided.

  • You have the Democrats in that meeting, including the president, and Senate leader for the Republicans,

  • McConnell, almost on the same page, that they want a quick funding solution this week, and

  • they also want to fund Ukraine.

  • On the other side is Speaker Johnson, who, whatever he personally thinks, has a problem

  • that his conference hasn't decided what they want to do in the House.

  • So, you could hear that optimism, but also complicated tone as the leaders walked out.

  • SEN.

  • CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): The meeting on Ukraine was one of the most intense I have ever encountered

  • in my many meetings in the Oval Office.

  • The overwhelming sentiment in that meeting is, we have got to do Ukraine now.

  • There are other issues, including border, which we should address, but not now.

  • We want a fixed border.

  • But it was also clear the speaker did not make -- didn't give a reason why you had to

  • do one before you did the other.

  • REP.

  • MIKE JOHNSON (R-LA): The other big priority for our country, of course, is the funding

  • of our government.

  • And we have been working in good faith around the clock every single day for months and

  • weeks and over the last several days, quite literally around the clock, to get that job

  • done.

  • We're very optimistic.

  • I hope that the other leaders came out here and told you the same.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: You can hear in that that they're sort of testing each other.

  • These are new relationships.

  • But one thing they have that they're going up against is the history here.

  • Let's look at the last year with the funding problems.

  • Here's what's happened just in September.

  • In September, they passed seven weeks of funding in Congress.

  • November, they split up the bill, so nine- and 11-week extensions, and then, in January,

  • some more, five- and six-weeks extensions that brought us to here.

  • While there may be hope that these leaders can pass through bills this week to avoid

  • that Friday deadline.

  • I don't know.

  • By my count, they don't have enough time.

  • They have to pass a short-term resolution, or we will have a partial shutdown.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Well, what is preventing Speaker Johnson from moving more quickly?

  • Is this all tied to pressure from Donald Trump and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party?

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Absolutely.

  • It is not just Trump, but it is Trump, along with the hard-line conservatives, and the

  • fractured nature, not just divided, of House Republicans.

  • They are in several groups.

  • We talk about House Speaker Johnson, who's just trying to keep his speakership going,

  • could be ousted by any member bringing up a resolution to the floor.

  • He has the trust and integrity portions with his conference, but they are not united.

  • Let me show you what I mean and what he's up against in terms of the different demands

  • of House Republicans right now in this current negotiation.

  • There are some House Republicans, Freedom Caucus members especially, who want border

  • changes in any deal this week.

  • There are others who oppose any short-term funding patch.

  • There are still others -- listen to this, Geoff -- who oppose the opposite.

  • They don't want full funding bills, because, without those, maybe there will be an automatic

  • cut.

  • And there are some that I have spoken to who do want a shutdown.

  • They think that is good leverage for them.

  • House Speaker Johnson is trying to negotiate all of this, but he's got to make a decision

  • in the end.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: We heard the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, say that the exchange

  • over Ukraine aid was one of the most intense scenes he's ever witnessed in the Oval Office.

  • Where do things stand there, Lisa?

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Yes, and he's a New Yorker.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Right.

  • (LAUGHTER)

  • LISA DESJARDINS: So I have a feeling that that tells us a lot.

  • House Speaker Johnson, when he came out said essentially that Ukraine is not his priority.

  • He may agree in theory that it needs to happen.

  • But he has said, America first, we need to deal with our problems first.

  • That is a problem for Ukraine specifically.

  • But there are some in the House trying to work around him.

  • Specifically, I want to look at these two representatives, Jared Golden, a Democrat

  • of Maine, and then also Brian Fitzpatrick, Republican of Pennsylvania.

  • They are right now working on a work-around to get a bill that would have about $50 billion

  • in aid to Ukraine in it.

  • They believe it has the two-thirds support needed, but they would probably have to do

  • that and go around Speaker Johnson.

  • The question is, would that topple his speakership or not?

  • They say they're serious.

  • When is Johnson going to take action on Ukraine?

  • He said they will move in a timely manner.

  • I had to look that up in the dictionary because who knows what that means.

  • It means not now.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Yes.

  • Well, finally, Lisa, we expected action this week in the impeachment trial of Homeland

  • Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.

  • At one point, the plan was for the Senate to get the articles of impeachment delivered.

  • They have to be walked over from the House chamber to the Senate chamber.

  • That didn't happen.

  • Where do things stand?

  • LISA DESJARDINS: This is another thread tied in with everything else.

  • House Republicans are pushing that back, because they could have a partial shutdown this week.

  • They think an impeachment of an officer of the United States, Cabinet officer, would

  • not look good.

  • However, there are some Senate Republicans saying they want to make sure there will be

  • a trial.

  • Here's the number two Senate Republican, John Thune, today.

  • SEN.

  • JOHN THUNE (R-SD): I believe the Senate needs to hold a trial.

  • I think this is such a miscarriage of the law.

  • And it is important that the United States senators sit and hear and the American people

  • hear about this incredible crisis at our southern border.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: Now, you hear him saying this is about the crisis at the border.

  • Mayorkas and Democrats say he has done nothing wrong, that there is a crisis.

  • But the issue here is, I think Democrats, my reporting is, want to move to not have

  • a trial.

  • They do not think there's reason for one.

  • We're going to check in with that maybe next week, maybe the following weeks after we get

  • past the other crises.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: All right, Lisa Desjardins, following it all for us, thanks so much.

  • LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: In the day's other headlines: The people of Michigan took their turn weighing

  • in on this year's presidential field.

  • They cast ballots in the last primaries before the Super Tuesday contests next week.

  • President Biden and former President Trump were expected to win again.

  • Still, the president faced a protest vote over the war in Gaza, and Mr. Trump faced

  • questions about broadening his base.

  • Israel and Hamas cast doubt today on President Biden's suggestion that a Gaza cease-fire

  • deal could be reached by Monday.

  • Israeli officials said the remarks came as a surprise.

  • Hamas insisted it has not backed off its demands.

  • But, at the White House, national security spokesman John Kirby defended the president's

  • statement.

  • JOHN KIRBY, NSC Coordinator For Strategic Communications: He certainly shared with you

  • his optimism that we can get there in hopefully a short order.

  • But he also said it's not all done yet.

  • And you don't have a deal until you have a deal.

  • We don't have one right now.

  • But we believe that we are getting closer.

  • And while we don't want to sound too sanguine or Pollyannish about it, we do think that

  • there's been some serious negotiations.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Meanwhile, more food, medical supplies and other relief were airdropped

  • into Gaza.

  • The packages floated down to the Mediterranean shore as crowds of Palestinians ran along

  • the beach to grab them.

  • Communities across Israel held local elections today, despite the ongoing war.

  • Voters chose mayors and city council members in most places.

  • But evacuated towns near Gaza and Lebanon had to postpone their elections until November.

  • In Ukraine, the military has retreated from more territory in the east after intense battles

  • overnight.

  • Government troops withdrew from two villages outside of Avdiivka, a larger city captured

  • by Russian forces earlier this month.

  • The Russians have stepped up their push as Ukraine runs short of weapons and ammunition.

  • A veteran human rights activist in Russia was sentenced today to 2.5 years in prison

  • for criticizing the war in Ukraine.

  • Oleg Orlov co-chaired the Nobel Peace Prize-winning group Memorial.

  • In his closing statement, he said he did not regret speaking out against the Kremlin and

  • he denounced the war again before being led away.

  • OLEG ORLOV, Russian Human Rights Activist (through translator): We live in the 21st

  • century.

  • Those guys are going backwards to 20th, 17th and even 16th.

  • Unfortunately, they are dragging our country with them, but we will win anyway.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Orlov's sentence is the latest in Russia's efforts to quash dissent over

  • the war.

  • Back in this country, a federal jury in New York convicted two men of murdering hip-hop

  • deejay Jam Master Jay 22 years ago.

  • Born Jason Mizell, Jay helped propel the group Run-D.M.C. to stardom and into the pop music

  • mainstream in the 1980s.

  • He was shot and killed in his music studio in 2002.

  • Prosecutor said the motive was a drug deal gone bad.

  • San Francisco's Board of Supervisors apologized today to Black residents and their descendants

  • for racist laws and policies over the years.

  • It was seen as a first step in the process of considering financial reparations.

  • San Francisco joins Boston in apologizing for its past treatment of Black citizens.

  • And on Wall Street, stocks mostly searched for direction.

  • The Dow Jones industrial average lost 96 points to close at 38972.

  • The Nasdaq rose 59 points and the S&P 500 added eight.

  • Still to come on the "NewsHour": an IDF soldier's video diaries offer a unique perspective on

  • Israel's war in Gaza; skepticism grows over tech billionaires' plans to ease the Bay Area's

  • housing crunch by building a new city; the story of an African American woman who helped

  • take down one of America's most notorious mob bosses; plus much more.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Today, voters in Michigan are casting their votes in that state's presidential

  • primary.

  • And some Democratic activists say they are hoping to send a message to President Biden

  • by voting uncommitted.

  • It follows growing frustration among some Muslim and Arab Americans over the administration's

  • handling of the war in Gaza.

  • MARIAM MOHSEN, Michigan Voter: Four years ago, I voted for Joe Biden.

  • It was important that we vote to get Trump out of office.

  • And, today, I feel very disappointed in Joe Biden, and I don't feel like I did the right

  • thing last election.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: For more, we're joined now by Michigan Democratic Party Chair Lavora

  • Barnes.

  • Welcome to the "NewsHour."

  • LAVORA BARNES, Chair, Michigan Democratic Party: Great to be here.

  • Thank you so much, Geoff.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: So, this push by some Democratic activists to urge voters to vote uncommitted

  • in this primary, this has really picked up steam since it was launched earlier this month,

  • to the point where now even Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer is saying that she expects,

  • in her words, a sizable number of protest votes against President Biden's handling of

  • the Israel-Hamas war.

  • Do you agree with that?

  • And what's your level of concern?

  • LAVORA BARNES: I am so thrilled that so many folks are participating in this process.

  • We fought hard to be an early state and to have our voices heard early in this primary

  • process.

  • And that's exactly what's happening.

  • Over a million folks grabbed ballots early on and voted.

  • And I am happy that these folks are reaching for the Democratic ballot and participating

  • in this process.

  • And I'm looking forward to taking this enthusiasm and interest in the process into November,

  • where the question is Joe Biden versus Donald Trump.

  • And we know the answer is Joe Biden.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: They might be taking the Democratic ballot, but they're not voting for the Democratic

  • candidate.

  • LAVORA BARNES: They're making their voices heard, Geoff.

  • And I am pleased that they're able to do that.

  • That's part of this process.

  • We have a big tent.

  • And part of the reason we built this tent and part of the reason we wanted to be part

  • of this process was to make sure that the voices of Michiganders were part of the overall

  • conversation.

  • And that's exactly what's happening right now.

  • And this president's listening.

  • We're listening.

  • You heard the president yesterday say that he's expecting to have some news about a cease-fire

  • probably as early as next week.

  • That's great news.

  • And that's a sign that he's been listening to these folks here in Michigan.

  • And that's what we wanted.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Well, as you said, Michigan Democrats pushed for the state's primary to

  • be earlier this year to give the state a greater voice in the overall electoral calendar and

  • to really highlight President Biden's perceived areas of strength, with Black voters around

  • Detroit, with union workers.

  • But there's a survey from Detroit News and WDIV-TV last month that showed President Biden

  • really has weak support from nearly all of the Democrats' key constituencies.

  • That's Black voters, voters between the ages of 18 and 29, and those holding college degrees.

  • How is the party aiming to turn that around?

  • LAVORA BARNES: So, that's -- you have exactly described my job, right?

  • I am organizing our team, our volunteers, our staff, and our leaders across the state.

  • We have been talking to voters and we will continue talking to voters at their doors,

  • on their phones, wherever we can find them, even in their social media, to make sure we're

  • telling the story of the Biden/Harris administration and what they have done on behalf of Americans

  • and Michiganders.

  • Think about the manufacturing jobs they have brought back to this state, the good union

  • paying jobs that have come here, and, of course, the protection of reproductive rights.

  • We're going to continue to have that conversation and also talk about the contrast between the

  • choice which they will have in November, which is either Joe Biden or turning back the clock

  • to Donald Trump.

  • And Donald Trump's been very clear about who he is, what he's done.

  • We're going to tell the story of his record.

  • We're going to tell the facts of who he is, what he has said he will do.

  • The man wants to be a dictator.

  • He calls people of color poison.

  • He is not good for America and absolutely not good for Michiganders.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Can President Biden win Michigan without the support of those Arab American

  • and Muslim Americans who say they are profoundly unhappy and disappointed with what they see

  • as his unwavering support of Israel?

  • LAVORA BARNES: We're going to continue having those conversations.

  • The president's going to keep listening to folks.

  • And we're going to win in November, building that coalition that we have had in place for

  • several cycles now and making sure that folks turn out and support the president, recognizing

  • that otherwise we may end up with Donald Trump, which is unacceptable to these communities.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Lavora Barnes is the Democratic Party chair for the state of Michigan.

  • Thanks for your time.

  • LAVORA BARNES: Thanks for having me.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: The murder of a college student in Georgia and the immigration status of her

  • alleged killer have thrown new fuel into the heated debate over the U.S. southern border

  • and the government's policies.

  • At the University of Georgia, grief hangs in the air after last week's death of 22-year-old

  • nursing student Laken Hope Riley.

  • Students, including her sorority sisters, gathered yesterday to remember Riley.

  • CHLOE MULLIS, President, Alpha Chi Omega: She showed incredible wisdom throughout her

  • friendships.

  • Many sisters have shared that she was the best listener.

  • She would allow you to ramble on about how your day was or how your life had been lately.

  • And she soaked it up intently.

  • Her wisdom flowed throughout all aspects of her life, and she had an eye for those who

  • were secretly struggling.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Riley's body was found in this wooded area on campus last Thursday.

  • Her roommate had reported her missing after she failed to return from a mourning jog;

  • 26-year-old Venezuelan citizen Jose Antonio Ibarra was charged with her murder.

  • Immigration officials say, in September of 2022, Ibarra was detained in Texas after illegally

  • entering the U.S. from Mexico, but then released for further processing.

  • Students returned to classes this week, but the community has been shaken to its core.

  • Riley's death is believed to be the school's first homicide in nearly 30 years.

  • BETHANY BATEMAN MCDONALD, University of Georgia: I'm a mom.

  • And as a mom, I couldn't imagine, I couldn't imagine something like this happening to my

  • children.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Beyond campus...

  • JESSE WATTERS, FOX News Anchor: A dangerous foreign national broke the law and suffered

  • no consequences because of fringe policies the far left claims are compassionate.

  • THOMAS HOMAN, Former Acting Director, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement: This

  • is another senseless, preventable death because of this open border.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Conservatives and right-wing media link the Biden administration's immigration

  • approach with Riley's death.

  • GOV.

  • BRIAN KEMP (R-GA): Laken's death is a direct result of failed policies on the federal level.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Georgia's Republican Governor Brian Kemp pointed to record high numbers

  • at the U.S. southern border.

  • GOV.

  • BRIAN KEMP: It is an understatement to say that this is a major crisis.

  • And because of the White House's failures, every state, as I have said repeatedly, is

  • now a border state.

  • And Laken Riley's murder is just the latest proof of that.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: On social media, former President Trump said -- quote -- "Biden's border invasion

  • is destroying our country and killing our citizens."

  • And he reiterated his campaign pledge to -- quote -- "seal the border and deport illegal criminals."

  • The White House has expressed condolences to Riley's family, but has not responded directly

  • to the Republican accusations, all this as both Biden and Trump plan dueling border visits

  • to Texas on Thursday of this week.

  • And to help with some context around these questions around immigration and crime, I'm

  • joined now by Charis Kubrin.

  • She's a professor of criminology, law, and society at the University of California, Irvine,

  • and co-author of the book "Immigration and Crime: Taking Stock."

  • Professor, let's begin with the obvious here.

  • Our thoughts are obviously with the family of Laken Riley and her friends, the senseless

  • loss of a young woman's life.

  • Authorities also today just revealed her death was due to blunt-force trauma.

  • And the man, we know, accused here is an undocumented immigrant.

  • Those are all facts.

  • What do you make of the larger conversation around those facts right now?

  • CHARIS KUBRIN, University of California, Irvine: When I heard about this tragic event, my heart

  • went out immediately.

  • That is, of course, the first reaction I had.

  • But the second one is, uh-oh, I hope that this is not used as -- this awful event is

  • not used for political advantage.

  • And it appears that that is what is essentially happening.

  • We see a tragic event become a sparking point for really restrictive policies aimed at immigrants.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: So, I know in your work and in your book, you look exactly at this issue

  • going back even to the early 1900s about the intersection of crime and immigration.

  • Broadly speaking, what have you learned?

  • CHARIS KUBRIN: So, there's been so much research that's been done on how immigration and crime

  • are related, both among immigrants, are immigrants more or less crime-prone than their native-born

  • counterparts, and does immigration to an area cause crime to go up or down?

  • And more recently, there's been an explosion of research in this area because of public

  • perception and interest.

  • And what's pretty amazing is, across all this research, by and large, we find that immigrants

  • do not engage in more crime than native-born counterparts, and immigration actually can

  • cause crime to go down, rather than up, so quite contrary to public perception.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: And does any of your research examine any differences between an undocumented

  • immigrant and those who are legally here in the United States?

  • CHARIS KUBRIN: Right.

  • That's become an increasingly important question that we have sought to answer.

  • There are a handful of studies that have begun to do this using pretty sophisticated estimation

  • techniques to identify the number of undocumented individuals.

  • And what those studies find is, similar to the research in general, there is no criminogenic

  • impact among undocumented immigrants.

  • In other words, undocumented immigrants are not engaging in more crime, contrary to public

  • perception.

  • And the presence of undocumented immigrants in an area does not correlate with higher

  • crime, particularly violence.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Professor, I'm sure you have heard this argument before.

  • We're hearing this again, which is that if this man had not been allowed to enter into

  • the United States, if he'd not been allowed to stay, he couldn't have committed this crime,

  • and this young woman would still be alive today.

  • Are people making that argument wrong?

  • CHARIS KUBRIN: Well, it's not that argument's wrong, because, essentially, that is true,

  • but I think it's misplaced, because, at the end of the day, if we really do want to cut

  • down on crime in general, absent this one horrific incident, making restrictive, exclusionary

  • and harsh policies aimed at immigrants is really not going to yield the benefits of

  • reductions in crime that many people believe, largely because, as I just mentioned, immigrants

  • are not the ones engaging in crime.

  • I would point out also that there's been a lot of instances of violence on campus with

  • young individuals getting killed, tragic events, most of which are occurring by native-born

  • Americans.

  • And so I think we need to pay attention to broader factors that contribute to this kind

  • of senseless violence, rather than simply aiming our targets at immigrants.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: So that leap from the crime of one person catalyzing to fear of an entire

  • group or population, we don't really see that, as you mentioned, with native-born Americans

  • or white Americans more broadly.

  • Is that something unique to immigrant populations?

  • CHARIS KUBRIN: So that's the interesting thing.

  • I have never seen a headline, not once in my life, that has read native-born American

  • has engaged in this crime or that crime.

  • And so what happens is most of the stories identify a person's immigrant status and link

  • it with crime in headlines, in social media, in the news.

  • That essentially reinforces the public perception that both go hand in hand, when in fact the

  • data show just the opposite.

  • So it's an uphill battle in terms of public perception.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: What should we expect to see in the months ahead?

  • We are in an election year.

  • Immigration is a top issue for voters around the country.

  • Do you expect this conversation to continue at this kind of heated level?

  • CHARIS KUBRIN: I think it will, unfortunately, for the exact reasons I mentioned early on,

  • which is that this is an opportunity, an awful opportunity, to seize on a political advantage.

  • What I hope happens is that we identify places where we can improve things when it comes

  • to immigration, but also do so in a way that makes smart policy, policy that will help

  • things more broadly, rather than simply use a scapegoat moment to make more restrictive

  • policies that are not going to do much in the end for crime.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Professor Charis Kubrin from the University of California, Irvine, thank you

  • so much for your time.

  • We appreciate it.

  • CHARIS KUBRIN: Thank you.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: Now for a rare view of the Israel-Hamas war from an Israeli infantryman.

  • Sam Sank is a British Israeli whose period of service has just ended.

  • In normal life, he works in information technology.

  • For his months of fighting in Gaza, he carried a small video camera.

  • And special correspondent Malcolm Brabant sat down with him in London.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: This is the video diary of the soldier behind the officer on point.

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK, Israeli Defense Forces Reservist: Together, with my brothers in arms, we're

  • part of history.

  • This will probably be a very significant event in the history of the Middle East, let alone

  • Israel.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: Master sergeant Sam Sank.

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: It's also good for the world to see as well, and it shows the true experience

  • of a soldier on the front line, and maybe shows a different side to what one sees through

  • propaganda or social media as soldiers.

  • And, actually, as you can see now, I'm a real person with real emotion and real thoughts.

  • Yes, yesterday was awful.

  • This place stinks, smell of dead bodies everywhere.

  • Not a great start.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: Sam Sank went to war on October the 7th, immediately after the terrorist attack

  • by Hamas.

  • After training in Northern Israel with his company, or pluga, Sank entered Gaza several

  • weeks into the conflict...

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: We have just entered Gaza.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: ... and spent nearly two months there.

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: Here we go.

  • Here we go.

  • Yesterday was a really, really bad day.

  • Two guys from our pluga got injured, one quite seriously, was in a helicopter to the hospital.

  • Both were shot in the back.

  • Man, two secs.

  • Just going to check out this pier.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: As second in command of his platoon, Sank ventures forward to examine

  • the entrance of a Hamas tunnel beneath Khan Yunis, once home to a quarter-of-a-million

  • Palestinians.

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: Gaza is arguably one of the most dense places in the world, and Hamas has decided

  • to use that as a battlefield and to use human shields to protect themselves and to put all

  • the civilians above the ground and all their ammunition and terrorists below the ground.

  • A few Israeli soldiers were killed at that specific spot, so after weeks of fighting,

  • we were able to locate the tunnel entrances.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: People who are watching that might think that you are cheering Palestinians'

  • homes being blown up.

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: So, the context of that video is the tunnel being destroyed.

  • And, for us, it was a sense of achievement, knowing that we had killed Hamas terrorists

  • that were still hiding underneath, and we had eliminated a big threat to our soldiers'

  • lives.

  • We're in Central Khan Yunis, Eastern-Central Khan Yunis, in a new house, sitting here on

  • guard duty with my main man, Leshem.

  • Here, you can see close to big a mosque, very urban area.

  • This is going to be our new home for the next few days, but feeling good, liking the new

  • area.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: Sank's war is over.

  • He's returned to his civilian job in I.T. and now has time to reflect.

  • How can you justify all those thousands of women and children being killed during this

  • conflict?

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: I don't think I can justify the numbers, but I can explain why that's happened.

  • We are dealing with an organization that has decided to put civilians at the forefront

  • of their bases, of their battlefield.

  • Welcome to Southern Khan Yunis.

  • We're in a house.

  • Look at the lovely Jerusalem -- Jerusalem decorations on the wall.

  • Arrived here yesterday.

  • Crazy, crazy dissonance coming into a more urban area like this.

  • It was insane, honestly, at night, seeing -- going through the city, seeing destroyed

  • buildings.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: Do you think there might have been a better way of fighting this war

  • to really more accurately target those people who were responsible for starting it?

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: I think, if there was a better way of doing it, then it would have been done,

  • because I trust in the strategic command of the IDF in Israel to make the best decision

  • to protect its soldiers and to protect the Palestinian civilians as much as possible.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: Do you feel as though Israel has fallen into a trap created by Hamas, because

  • they knew that Israel would come in and, in the end, if it kept going, would end up perhaps

  • losing world opinion?

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: Yes, for sure.

  • Hamas set the trap up.

  • It's the ploy that Hamas and other terrorist Palestinian organizations have been using

  • for many years.

  • Unfortunately, Israel doesn't have a choice and has to move into that trap, because if,

  • again, we want to defeat the enemy, destroy the terrorists and bring our people back,

  • we have to go into Gaza.

  • The world, as I see it, will always be against Israel in this conflict.

  • There is an underlying antisemitism that exists.

  • This is just our generation's persecution of Jews.

  • Hopefully, it will be a couple quiet days before we're eventually supposed to leave,

  • final Shabbat in Gaza.

  • Can't wait to go home.

  • Can't believe how long it's been.

  • I'm just counting down the hours, literally.

  • Everyone's making fun of me, but I'm counting down the hours.

  • But I'm desperate for this all to be over.

  • I just want to get back to normal life.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: Do you think you could ever live side by side with Palestinians?

  • MASTER SGT.

  • SAM SANK: A hundred percent.

  • You look at conflicts that have existed over the history of the world, people that hated

  • each other with a passion and are now living together in peace.

  • Whether I think it will be a happy peace, maybe not.

  • But even a cold peace is better than what exists today.

  • And, yes, I truly believe that it can happen.

  • And if the Palestinians love their children more than they hate ours, there will be peace.

  • If they start celebrating life, rather than celebrating death, there will be peace.

  • MALCOLM BRABANT: For now, such a peace remains in the realm of dreams, despite suggestions

  • that progress is being made.

  • For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Malcolm Brabant.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: Cities worldwide are overcrowded, overpriced and a source of global warming.

  • The dream?

  • Build a livable, affordable, eco-friendly community.

  • Paul Solman went to California to see the plans for one of those big dreams.

  • But there's plenty of skepticism about that vision and the developers behind it.

  • NARRATOR: The Line will be home to nine million residents.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Want a brand-new dream city built?

  • How about The Line in Saudi Arabia?

  • NARRATOR: The Line is 500' meters tall, 200' meters wide.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: No cars, no carbon emissions, designed to host a population of nine million.

  • Well, maybe someday, maybe not.

  • But a lot closer to home and perhaps to reality, there's now California Forever, a planned

  • cutting-edge community that has gobbled up 60,000 acres of farmland in Solano County,

  • an hour north of San Francisco.

  • JAN SRAMEK, CEO, California Forever: We're building a new community in the Bay Area.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: CEO Jan Sramek.

  • JAN SRAMEK: That's going to make it possible for a new generation of Californians to realize

  • the California dream, the way that prior generations have been able to do it.

  • RONALD KOTT, Mayor of Rio Vista, California: This is the footprint that they're presenting.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Here's how the new community depicts itself in the plans it showed Ronald

  • Kott, mayor of Rio Vista, population 10,000, which borders the 60,000 acres.

  • RONALD KOTT: Surrounding communities kind of come here, do other restaurants and shopping

  • and that kind of thing and...

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Pedestrians.

  • RONALD KOTT: Pedestrian, but everything is walkable.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Housing for 50,000 to start, as many as 400,000 people eventually, with

  • condos a lot cheaper than anything you can get in and around San Francisco, 18,000 acres

  • for the town, another 21,000 for a solar farm to power it with energy to spare.

  • BRONSON JOHNSON California Forever: We're in the heart of the new community.

  • This will be medium density, urban form blocks of housing and our downtown will be just a

  • little bit this way from where we're standing today.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Bronson Johnson of California Forever.

  • BRONSON JOHNSON: When you're starting from scratch and you're building new water recovery

  • plants and new energy plants, this can be entirely renewable and a sustainable model

  • for the rest of the world to follow.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: In order to expand the project eventually, the group has made a series of

  • legally binding promises, to create 15,000 new jobs, spend $30 million to protect local

  • ecosystems, and allocate $400 million for housing assistance.

  • JAN SRAMEK: Homes that families can afford in safe and walkable neighborhoods.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Moreover:

  • PRINCESS PALMER, Real Estate Agent: It gives people a chance to build generational wealth.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: A historical problem for Black people, says local real estate agent Princess

  • Palmer.

  • PRINCESS PALMER: A lot of times, it's the down payment and the closing costs that prevent

  • people from being able to buy here in California.

  • So that would be an amazing opportunity that you just don't see right now in California.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Another local, Alix Pate, likes the project for a different reason.

  • ALIX PATE, Solano County, California, Resident: I have small children, a 3-year-old and a

  • 1-year-old, and I have these concerns of, where will they live and is there going to

  • be housing for them when they are ready to buy?

  • PAUL SOLMAN: So, the project seems pretty unobjectionable, right?

  • Well, of course not.

  • There have been objections galore, like at this town hall meeting.

  • MAN: How do you expect anyone in this room or the county to believe what you're saying?

  • PAUL SOLMAN: For years, a firm known only as Flannery Associates quietly amassed tens

  • of thousands of acres in Solano County, and no one knew why.

  • Only last August did The New York Times report that Flannery was backed by Silicon Valley

  • billionaires, which CEO SRAMEK now acknowledges.

  • JAN SRAMEK: Our main investors are a group of Californians who have decided to double

  • down on the state.

  • They include Laurene Powell Jobs, John Doerr, Michael Moritz, Marc Andreessen, and the venture

  • fund Andreessen Horowitz.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: And Sramek only first appeared before locals in November.

  • Locals didn't like the secrecy and also worried about the strains that come with development,

  • like water depletion.

  • CATHERINE MOY, Mayor of Fairfield, California: Every drop of water in this county is taken.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Catherine Moy, mayor of Fairfield, abutting the project:

  • CATHERINE MOY: They do have some water that they have from the land that they bought,

  • OK?

  • It's not enough for a city.

  • It's not enough for that.

  • So they say they're going to buy water from elsewhere.

  • OK, well, I bet they might.

  • But I don't think it's going to be enough.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: But, says CEO Sramek:

  • JAN SRAMEK: We have a water guarantee for every single building we build, whether it's

  • an office building or a manufacturing facility or a home.

  • We have to prove that we have enough water for many, many decades, including through

  • drought periods.

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL, Solano County, California, Resident: This is my grandfather and one of

  • his pals.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: A little ways down the highway, rancher Kathleen Threlfall now tends the property

  • purchased by her great-grandparents.

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: When I come down the road, it's what everybody in the world wants.

  • It's like the whole relaxation experience.

  • I'm home and this is my place.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: And how long are you going to stay here?

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: Probably until I drop off the tractor or something.

  • (LAUGHTER)

  • PAUL SOLMAN: So offers to buy her 243 acres, starting at $2 million, now up to 4.5, were

  • nonstarters.

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: They have tried to buy my land.

  • I have said no.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Why?

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: Why?

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Yes.

  • (LAUGHTER)

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: This is my spot.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: There's the phrase we all know, NIMBY, not in my backyard.

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: Right.

  • God, I hate the idea of being a NIMBY.

  • I really do.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Well, but that's what you are, no?

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: But that's what I am.

  • That's what I am in this case.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Yes.

  • KATHLEEN THRELFALL: I mean, this case, I'm saying, this is not a good idea in this particular

  • place at this time.

  • CATHERINE MOY: I don't like being called a NIMBY either.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: Again, Mayor Moy.

  • CATHERINE MOY: I'm just a person who grew up here, love this area, and this is upending

  • all of that.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: There's one other big issue, the lawsuit.

  • IAN ANDERSON, Solano County, California, Resident: We have spent more on this lawsuit than what

  • it would cost to get our kids through school.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: That's a half-a-billion dollar suit against landowners who refuse to sell,

  • claiming they colluded to inflate the price.

  • Ian and Margaret Anderson and even their distant family members have been forced to defend

  • themselves.

  • MARGARET ANDERSON, Solano County, California, Resident: They just pulled those family members

  • in as well, I think just as a strong-arm tactic to frighten people to sell their land.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: The CEO's version:

  • JAN SRAMEK: We made an offer to the Andersons.

  • They made a counteroffer where they asked for a very high price.

  • We said, no thank you.

  • We don't want to buy the property at that price.

  • And the lawsuit alleges that, after that, they organized this price-fixing conspiracy

  • in order to force us to pay the higher price.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: So have you guys been colluding with other people to jack up the price?

  • IAN ANDERSON: I have been a farmer in this area for 67 years, and I have never done any

  • colluding in that realm any way, shape or form.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: As to the discussion of selling, given the cost of the suit, it was and remains

  • a painful one.

  • MARGARET ANDERSON: It's amazing what a person considers doing when they are being asphyxiated.

  • And that's what we felt was happening.

  • There were many discussions between us about what's the right thing to do.

  • Do we do what's right for us and plant our heels?

  • Or do we think about the possibility to provide for our son in the future?

  • PAUL SOLMAN: And to keep the tradition going?

  • MARGARET ANDERSON: Keep the family operation going.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: But there must be a price at which you would sell, no?

  • IAN ANDERSON: I will take a little bit of offense to that, because I wake up each morning

  • looking forward to the farm day growing crops.

  • RONALD KOTT: I think there are some opportunities for our city.

  • There are some warning signs for our city too.

  • PAUL SOLMAN: As mayor, Kott is in favor of economic growth, as a resident who treasures

  • where he lives, not so sure.

  • But in November, he and his fellow citizens of Solano County will have to vote on preserving

  • their backyard as is or opening it up to others.

  • For the "PBS NewsHour," Paul Solman.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: And we will be back shortly for the story of a woman who helped take down

  • one of America's most notorious mob bosses.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: But, first, take a moment to hear from your local PBS station.

  • It's a chance to offer your support, which helps keep programs like ours on the air.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: For those of you staying with us: In the 2,000 years since the Chinese invented

  • paper and paper cutting, artists around the world have developed their own unique styles.

  • Earlier this year, special correspondent Cat Wise visited an artist whose work is inspired

  • by the natural beauty and people of the Pacific Northwest.

  • CAT WISE: Every morning, artist and author Nikki McClure takes a long walk in the woods

  • surrounding her home in Olympia, Washington.

  • She feeds the birds and wildlife that dwell here, and spends some time on the beach just

  • steps from her front door.

  • Inspiration for her art is everywhere.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE, Author and Artist: By the time I have taken that walk, an idea or a story

  • will have shown itself to me.

  • And then I sit down and work.

  • CAT WISE: McClure begins with a sketch, which she transfers to black paper, and then begins

  • to work her magic with her knife.

  • Cut by tiny cut for nearly 30 years, McClure has revealed the world she sees and the creatures

  • in it.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: My work is usually all one piece.

  • It's all connected, because we all are connected.

  • CAT WISE: McClure is the author and illustrator of 15 books, and she has collaborated on several

  • more, including The New York Times' bestseller "All in a Day" with author Cynthia Rylant.

  • She also sells her original paper cut art, prints, and a yearly calendar.

  • McClure's deep connection to nature and her surroundings can be traced to her early years

  • in Olympia, when she studied natural history at the Evergreen State College.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: I just kept drawing and drawing and drawing and drawing every stick, every

  • leaf, every insect, every bird.

  • It focused and trained my eye to see details, and then trained my hand to draw those details.

  • CAT WISE: After graduating in 1991, she began working at the Washington Department of Ecology

  • and was immersed in Olympia's vibrant music and art scene.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: We all lived downtown, and these apartment buildings kind of all together,

  • it was so spontaneous and alive.

  • And the way that you communicated was through song or through art.

  • CAT WISE: For a time, McClure also wrote and performed music and lived next to one of the

  • most famous musicians to come out of Olympia during that era, Kurt Cobain of the band Nirvana.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: So, I moved into this house, and Kurt lived behind, and I shared the wall,

  • and I could hear him play his songs through the wall.

  • Seeing them play, there was this strong connection in this house.

  • CAT WISE: After deciding to become a full-time artist, McClure began experimenting with paper

  • cutting.

  • She self-publishing her first book, "Apple" for children in 1996.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: I found that making art was a more calming way to communicate.

  • I am singing my songs still, but there is a child in a lap, in a home, and it's ultimately

  • like, that's where I want to sing my songs.

  • They call these X-Acto, knives, but they're not really exact.

  • They have this a mind of their own sometimes.

  • CAT WISE: On a recent morning, I joined McClure at her desk as she worked on a piece that

  • might end up in a future calendar.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: This was this one morning where I was swimming, and I had my arms in front

  • of me.

  • The way that the water was making my arms was that they were all squiggled.

  • They were no longer solid, even though I knew they were solid.

  • CAT WISE: How do you know where to cut to make the image reveal itself?

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: I don't.

  • You just have to trust it.

  • What I really like about this process is that there are so many mistakes made.

  • CAT WISE: Really?

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: And that you are making mistakes over time, in the sense of like, oh, that,

  • I don't quite work out.

  • But you just keep going.

  • And, really, it's just a piece of paper.

  • CAT WISE: But, oh, what she can do with a piece of paper.

  • Many of her works are focused on her experiences as a mother and raising her son, Finn, with

  • her husband, Jay T. Scott, a woodworker in Olympia.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: It is such a remarkable gift to participate in this life as it developed

  • and formed and grew and started asking questions like, "Mama, is it summer yet?

  • Mama, is it summer yet?

  • Not yet little one, but the buds are swelling.

  • Soon, new leaves will unfold.

  • Mama, is it summer yet?

  • Not yet, little one, but the squirrel is building her nest.

  • Soon, her babies will be born."

  • CAT WISE: In "What Will These Hands Make?"

  • released in 2020, McClure highlights a family and their community as they prepare for a

  • celebration.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: This is the center map spread from the book "What Will These Hands Make?"

  • And it basically tells a story of this family, and here they are right here.

  • They are going from grandma's house -- there's grandma baking -- all the way across town

  • to this cake, because there's going to be a big party at grandma's house later.

  • CAT WISE: The community, filled with people who make things with their hands...

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: Here's my friend Mariela's (ph) pottery studio.

  • CAT WISE: .. is fictional, but many of the characters and businesses are inspired by

  • our mutual hometown, Olympia.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: Sometimes, I would row into town, and I would row over and go to the Browsers

  • bookstores here.

  • CAT WISE: The real Browsers Bookshop is one of the local businesses McClure hand-delivers

  • her calendars to each year.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: Hey, Andrea.

  • I brought you more calendars.

  • Andrea Griffith is the store's owner.

  • ANDREA GRIFFITH, Owner, Browsers Bookshop: Nikki's work, it feels like Olympia.

  • It's so tied to the natural world and she's -- I think she teaches us how to see things

  • here.

  • CAT WISE: Like many in Olympia, Griffith says she feels a connection to McClure and the

  • life experiences she reveals through her art.

  • ANDREA GRIFFITH: Last month's calendar was an image of her son's boat sailing kind of

  • away because her son was going to college.

  • He's leaving, so I think we're all a little sad.

  • NIKKI MCCLURE: I guess what I want people to come away with or to feel when they look

  • at my work is a sense of place and to calm down and slow down and to just take a moment.

  • Our lives are so fast.

  • Everything's just, you know, now, now, now, now, now that we forget even what time of

  • season it is.

  • The picture can transport them to a quiet, slow, still moment just for a brief second.

  • CAT WISE: McClure has been working on illustrations for a new book, which will be released in

  • March.

  • For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Cat Wise in Olympia, Washington.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: And now to the story of an African American woman who helped take down one of

  • America's most notorious mob bosses.

  • John Yang has this report that originally aired on "PBS News Weekend" as part of our

  • Black History Month series "Hidden Histories."

  • JOHN YANG: Eunice Carter always understood the power of public service.

  • When she was 7 years old, her parents, both social activists, fled the South after the

  • 1906 Atlanta race riots, moving the family to Brooklyn, New York.

  • SHAKALA ALVARANGA, Director of Public Programs, The Mob Museum: She was ahead of her time.

  • JOHN YANG: Shakala Alvaranga is the director of public programs at The Mob Museum in Las

  • Vegas.

  • SHAKALA ALVARANGA: Her father, William Hunton Sr., he founded the black division of the

  • YMCA.

  • And her mother was a social worker, an activist, and a political organizer.

  • And she also worked for the YMCA's war efforts during World War I. And she was one of the

  • women assigned to work with about 200,000 segregated black troops who were stationed

  • in France at the time.

  • So her family history holds a lot of depth and a lot of history when it comes to civil

  • rights.

  • JERMAINE FOWLER, Author, "The Humanity Archive": So, this is the example that Carter is growing

  • up in, and this is who she looks to for inspiration.

  • JOHN YANG: Jermaine Fowler is the author of The Humanity Archive, which highlights the

  • achievements of black Americans that history books have long ignored.

  • Her family also made sure she got a good education.

  • JERMAINE FOWLER: She went to Smith College.

  • She was only the second black woman to receive a bachelor and a master's degree in four years

  • in 1921.

  • And then she entered Fordham Law School as the first black woman to graduate from that

  • school.

  • JOHN YANG: She became an assistant district attorney, mostly working at what was then

  • called Women's Court, prosecuting sex workers.

  • Her talents came to the attention of Thomas E. Dewey, then beginning his rise to national

  • prominence as a New York State special prosecutor going after organized crime.

  • Carter joined his otherwise all white, all male team.

  • SHAKALA ALVARANGA: They, you know, kind of had this unconventional relationship, but

  • Dewey clearly knew how talented and how educated Eunice Carter was.

  • She was out in the community, and a lot of people were talking to her, and they may have

  • not felt as comfortable talking to the men about, you know, what they were doing.

  • JOHN YANG: She was paid less than her male counterparts and passed over for promotions.

  • But her experience in women's court gave her knowledge they didn't have.

  • JERMAINE FOWLER: She noticed that women being arrested for prostitution from all over New

  • York City were being represented by the same lawyers and the same bails bondsman.

  • JOHN YANG: She meticulously followed the connections back to the reigning boss of mafia bosses,

  • Charles "Lucky" Luciano.

  • JERMAINE FOWLER: Luciano is this very savvy businessman, but he's also a ruthless mafia

  • also.

  • And what we know of as the mafia today was started by Luciano, who consolidated these

  • blood feuding gangster families during the Prohibition era into one centrally supervised

  • criminal syndicate.

  • SHAKALA ALVARANGA: After months of interviewing and wiretapping, Carter and her colleague

  • at the time, they convinced Dewey that organized crime essentially controlled the brothels.

  • They would pocket about $40 of their $200 weekly earnings.

  • And in contrast, Luciano earned millions every year.

  • JOHN YANG: Carter spearheaded an investigation that included raids on brothels across New

  • York City.

  • The evidence gathered led to Luciano's 1936 conviction on more than 60 counts of forced

  • prostitution.

  • He was sentenced to 30 to 50 years in prison.

  • This episode really helped establish Thomas Dewey nationwide ran for political office.

  • He was a presidential candidate.

  • How much credit did Eunice Carter get in all of this?

  • JERMAINE FOWLER: We kind of see her overlooked, and it's really just within the last few years

  • that we're recovering her legacy and her contributions to this case and this grant end place that

  • she holds in American history in terms of prosecution and going against organized crime.

  • JOHN YANG: After leaving the government, Carter entered private practice.

  • She was active in the YWCA, the NAACP, and was an adviser to the United Nations.

  • But it was her work in the Luciano case, helping get justice for the women he abused that cemented

  • Carter's legacy and earned her the title Lady Racketbuster.

  • SHAKALA ALVARANGA: She was able to really hone in and really put this case together

  • in a way that only she could do.

  • GEOFF BENNETT: And join us again here tomorrow night, when we will have a look at how some

  • governors are trying to solve their states' problems at a time of intense political polarization.

  • And that is the "NewsHour" for tonight.

  • I'm Geoff Bennett.

  • AMNA NAWAZ: And I'm Amna Nawaz.

  • On behalf of the entire "NewsHour" team, thank you for joining us.

GEOFF BENNETT: Good evening.

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