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  • The biggest reason why Warrior Cats is so popular is simple.

  • The series has quickly and consistently put out content every year for over two decades.

  • No matter what the quality of any individual book is, the quantity of material they have,

  • the number of characters and plots they have explored, and the number of expansions they

  • have made to the world are too vast for any other member of the genre to match, at least

  • so far.

  • To keep up that pace, Warriors has always had to rely on a team of people to conceive

  • of and write the books, distinctly separating those jobs in almost all cases, and that team

  • has only grown with time to include comic artists and writers, artists for special books,

  • more ghost writers, and many more editors since Victoria Holmes left.

  • That does mean that we as readers always have a lot of material to draw from for discussion,

  • art, roleplay, games, writing, or analysis depending on our preferences and investment

  • levels, but it also means that over 20 years and many, many people giving their input to

  • the canon, we have had to grapple with several different sources of information.

  • Were there a single, definitive source that the various creators had made from which to

  • gauge all existing lore, characters, relationships, and otherwise in the world, in other words,

  • a series bible, some of the problems we have grown into could have been avoided, but by

  • now, the damage has long since been done, and we have to live with the contradictions

  • our disparate sources have made.

  • Many, many books across the series have needed to or decided to retcon in elements that weren't

  • discussed or were actively contradicted in previous material, when the new idea would

  • better fit the story they were currently writing.

  • In addition, even outside the books, various members of the Erin team have said things

  • about the characters or world that weren't in the published material and often weren't

  • agreed upon by the team, instead being thought of hastily in the moment.

  • All these different sources: different people and even different books have been considered

  • canon at different times over the years.

  • As a fandom, many of us, especially those less invested in the books, get our information

  • second or third hand from artists or writers who have already reimagined or invented materials,

  • or from people who didn't check the original source for their own information.

  • But even when we look at the same canon published material, we can still interpret it differently,

  • especially considering what other pieces of canon we may or may not have read for context,

  • and whatever ideas we may get can then spread among the rest of the fandom and be considered

  • as commonplace an idea as something in a published work.

  • All of this is undoubtedly confusing, which is why, today, I would like to go through

  • a map of sorts to show how Warriors information gets to us, and from there, maybe we'll

  • be able to figure out what to do with it.

  • Starting at the top, we have the elements that go into a published work of Warriors.

  • There are, of course, a lot of factors, but I have split it broadly into three categories:

  • Editor Notes, the extremely lengthy guidelines the editors come up with for the plots, character

  • arcs, lore decisions, and so on for a book they're currently writing, Author Interpretations,

  • the small amounts of personal choice or interpretation of a character that ghostwriters are able

  • to inject while fleshing out the editors' outline, and Publisher Guidelines, whatever

  • the needs of the publisher and team might be absent of what they would like to put into

  • a story.

  • Putting all of these together is already bringing in a lot of voices, but they do work together,

  • and it is still a relatively small and finite number of people.

  • Once the book is published, though, things become much less contained.

  • First, sometimes even before the books come out, fans of all ages will summarize the story,

  • or parts of the story, for other fans to get a sense of what happens.

  • These summaries are almost certain to contain bias of some sort, be it leaving out some

  • details the summarizer didn't care about, focusing positively or negatively on a character

  • or plot they have strong feelings about, or adding in or taking away details they genuinely

  • didn't remember because they aren't summarizing the whole story word by word.

  • Despite this, these summaries are, for many, the only ways they consume certain books,

  • either because they didn't have interest in this entry to begin with or because the

  • summary itself told them all they needed to know to make their decision.

  • Off of these summaries, fan discussions can erupt which may or may not end up accurately

  • discussing the book thanks to the inherent bias of the source.

  • There have been times where discourse has erupted over something that, as it turns out,

  • was never in the books to begin with.

  • My best advice around these is to take any summary with a grain of salt.

  • No matter how intent on honesty the summarizer is, avoiding bias in a situation like this

  • is impossible and there will almost certainly be some context somewhere that you are missing,

  • context that could make a situation in the books either better or worse.

  • Aside from general summaries, several people make active reviews of the books as they come

  • out, giving their opinions on how the story is coming together, what they think of the

  • characters, plot, and lore, and how it fits into the overall world and narrative of Warriors,

  • given what they can remember coming before.

  • These tend to be significantly more biased than summaries, by design, and they rarely

  • even claim to include a comprehensive look at the whole story.

  • Instead they tend to follow specific plot threads, characters, or details that the reviewer

  • has interest in and can fold in content from elsewhere in the series, personal theories,

  • or even fandom jokes and ideas if the reviewer finds them to be relevant.

  • People who view these reviews will get one person's take on the published material

  • and almost always will get several true facts on it, but without having read the material

  • itself it is hard to say you have a clear view of it, and especially hard to form an

  • opinion of your own distinct from what the reviewer thinks.

  • Out of these reviews, analyses, or theories, fan discourse can sprout up among larger groups

  • of people, many of whom will not have read the books.

  • This isn't a problem, and I'm not telling anyone they are wrong for not having read

  • a book, but it should be obvious from here how easy it would be for details to become

  • distorted, inflated, erased, or even made up over time.

  • It isn't just individuals who review or analyze books, though.

  • Entire groups on various platforms will often discuss the books as they come out, and those

  • discussions will almost inevitably end up focusing on a few key talking points and land

  • on a few key opinions over months or even years of discussing the new materials with

  • each release, leading to entire sectors of the fandom having precise, generally uniform

  • conceptions of different books or characters and often having little contact with other

  • spaces where opinions might differ.

  • Having two people who only know the books from these discussions, but on different platforms,

  • speak to each other can often sound like these people couldn't have possibly read the same

  • series, and it is where many, though not all heated arguments sprout from.

  • On a lighter note, the published material also inspires plenty of fandom materialbut

  • as you can see, those have their own categories, so we'll come back to this later.

  • With the published material through, it's time to take a look at the second sourceauthor

  • statements.

  • These can be made on a forum, on facebook or instagram, during an interview, in a letter,

  • or otherwise, but what binds these statements together is that they were made by one member

  • of the Erin Hunter team alone and often were made on a whim in answer to a spontaneous

  • question, considering only their opinion in the moment and not the long term ramifications

  • or researching what had been written before to choose an appropriate answer.

  • From my point of view, which like anyone else's is not an objective one, these are not as

  • strong a source as anything in a published book would be.

  • Even the people who made the statements don't have infinite faith in them, as in cases where

  • authors later realized the implications of their words and went back on them, and many

  • that weren't retracted simply never came to pass in the books or were even contradicted

  • in the material we had.

  • These statements aren't often even seen by a wide body of people.

  • They aren't published in many places, aren't advertised, and sometimes are only shown to

  • a few select people who were relevant to the initial question.

  • In a series made entirely by one person, comments like this could have more, though not total,

  • canonical weight thanks to being followed by more people and only filtering through

  • the mind and memory of one person, but in this series with so many people working together,

  • I honestly believe the only reason these statements have held power as long as they have is because

  • ofwell, we'll get back to that.

  • First though it's time to go into what seems to be the modern version of author statements

  • in the Warriors World: content on the Warriors website, the new version that came out in

  • 2019.

  • The website gets content from three main sources.

  • The first is theStory Team,” a label members of the Erin Hunter team use when speaking

  • about their reasons for writing certain things in the past or teasing ideas to come, along

  • with occasionally speaking on specific in-story topics.

  • Considering this comes straight from people who actually write or conceive of the stories,

  • these tend to be the most valuable in terms of telling what is true in the Warriors universe,

  • but even then, like with Author Statements, we don't know that every member of the team

  • agreed to anything said by theStory Team,” and anything said on the website isn't guaranteed

  • to be in the published books.

  • The second is theEditors,” staff who work specifically on the website that we,

  • as a general audience, know little to nothing about.

  • They put up articles on different Warriors topics and keep the website updated with announcements,

  • quotes, and quizzes for people who follow the site regularly but there isn't much

  • they can offer in terms of deciding what is canon for the books, since they have no direct

  • relation to them.

  • The third is the fans, some who are sought out to provide their input on different topics

  • and many more who are showcased for their art, fan theories, or otherwise as a tribute

  • to the fandom that has stayed alive for so long.

  • It is genuinely great to see so many fans get a chance to see their hard work recognized

  • and for some to provide their own thoughts on the books, but this position doesn't

  • hold any sway over the books themselves.

  • However, all three of these sources are displayed on the same website, and like the published

  • material, anything published on the website can be and is discussed, reviewed, joked about,

  • and otherwise by the fandom outside the website.

  • The Erins themselves also go to the website sometimes to pick up what has been said about

  • the books and to canonize certain things that weren't stated to be true before, which

  • is a dangerous venture if that information wasn't thoroughly checked over first.

  • And of course, a lot of things that go on the website wind up on one other platform.

  • It's time to discuss the Warriors Wiki.

  • Let me clear right off the bat that this is not going to be a criticism of the platform.

  • A lot of work from a lot of volunteers goes into maintaining that site and it is, at this

  • point, an irreplaceable resource.

  • I don't agree with every decision they make, but that is true for just about every group

  • ever, and what I will talking about today is how the Wiki is used.

  • The wiki is most similar to wikipedia, as it name would imply.

  • What it does is it collects and stores information in one easy to reach place rather than forcing

  • you to track down each individual source.

  • It is not a source by itself but it does gather and, importantly, cite the sources for all

  • the information it has listed.

  • If you remember reading that Leafpool has a white chest and paws but don't see it

  • listed in the allegiances, you can go to the wiki and scroll over the handy citation to

  • see exactly where that information came from, in this case a specific page of a specific

  • book.

  • Likewise, if the information you're looking at is cited as being from a facebook post

  • or letter dated back to 2012, you can learn that and judge for yourself how much the source

  • holds up.

  • The issue isn't that the wiki includes information like this; that is its best attribute as a

  • site.

  • The issue is just the same as what your teachers may have said for wikipedia: the Warriors

  • wiki itself is not a source, and you need to look at their sources to know how credible

  • your information is.

  • It can become an issue, then, when analysis, stories, animation, discussion, and otherwise

  • from the fandom use the information without critically looking into or sharing where that

  • information came from beyondthe wiki,” as it spreads this information to people who

  • won't take the time to look up every piece of information they heard mentioned by another

  • fan and causes random debunked ideas from a decade back to be settled as truth in the

  • fandom consciousness.

  • That, though, is still far better than what else we know to be happening with the wiki:

  • the Warriors website and even the published material using the wiki as its source.

  • The Warriors website doesn't cite sources for anything, but it does uncritically take

  • family tree elements among other things from the information on the wiki without noticing

  • that, for instance, those facts came from a source that was decanonized years ago, or

  • that it came from an author statement made on a whim before the author in question realized

  • the relationships she had already established.

  • We also have concrete proof at this point both from an accidental citation left in on

  • a book's preview and from previous author statements that the Erin Hunter team themselves

  • uses the wiki when writing the books whichyeah they really should not be doing that.

  • Even when they don't pull directly from the wiki, though, they have spent the past

  • several years randomly retconning in familial relationships with the seeming goal of making

  • the Website's family tree truly canon, and the family tree itself does pull from the

  • wiki.

  • And now, of course, the wiki has replaced many of its previous citations to long-gone

  • author statements with citations to the Website family tree, which itself drew from the wiki,

  • creating a cyclical citation hellscape that prevents anyone from really telling where

  • some of this information originated.

  • It's just a mess, one we as fans don't have much or any power over, but we can at

  • least control how we talk about the wiki's sources and do our best to cite our own sources

  • properly when we spread information.

  • Finally, and on a much lighter note, we can talk about fan works such as fanart, animations,

  • maps, fanfiction, spoofs, and other such works of creativity.

  • These can be inspired by just about every other category depending on what the creator

  • or creators have chosen and can also heavily feature original ideas to differentiate, improve,

  • or refocus a story or to tell a whole new story in a similar Warriors world.

  • It is usually well known that these don't have to be heavy on canonical fact so far

  • fewer people go into them assuming they know the original story from the fan work alone,

  • but they do still give some people their only ideas of the Warriors world and can therefore

  • be very influential to the fandom consciousness.

  • In addition, like any source that skews closer to canon, it can be discussed, joked about,

  • provoke discourse, or spark ideas of what the original works were that can then be carried

  • on into canonical discussions later.

  • And with a fandom as creative and vast as ours, we can't set aside the numerous people

  • whose ideas about the series come exclusively from our creative communities.

  • Given all the information we have, and all the places it comes from, I think it's safe

  • to say we need to understand what the pipeline of information is and where we get our information

  • before we argue using it or assume we know the full story.

  • I don't think it's a bad idea to use the wiki or to watch animations, far from it,

  • but it is important to look for the sources those platforms and creators were inspired

  • byand to not trust anything on the Website's family tree that contains no citations.

  • The Website assumes it is the source because it's officially licensed, but in a series

  • with an information pipeline as tangled as this, it needs to be clear where information

  • comes from so we can decide how important it is.

  • Things that came from an author statement 15 years ago shouldn't hold much weight,

  • and if they didn't keep making their way through the information pipeline to be canonized

  • haphazardly in the books so much later, I'm sure they wouldn't.

  • When you look at an image, or a cat description, check the sources to see which parts are known

  • in their design and which parts are up for discussion due to contradictions or not being

  • listed at all.

  • When you hear someone say something about a recent book, you can use the summary, ideally

  • multiple, to decide whether or not to read it, but if you choose not to, be aware of

  • what you don't know and what discourse you are genuinely capable of commenting on.

  • When you hear a comment made offhandedly about a character, look that character back up and

  • see if what was said about them is true, or a rumor passed over and over down the pipeline.

  • There are numerous fandom myths that, seriously, countless people will swear to you they have

  • seen in the books when, in reality, it was made in an author statement 12 years ago,

  • or only brought up as a joke or a hypothetical in a fan discussion around the same time.

  • Hopekit and Wishkit are still not names ever mentioned in the books, for example, no matter

  • how many times anyone insists they are.

  • Just be critical, and know the series you are dealing with.

  • You don't have to know every intricacy of every piece of material in the pipeline because

  • well, who could?

  • But know this is what we are working with, and be aware of what you don't know.

  • Thank you for watching, and always remember to do what your English teachers told you:

  • cite your sources when making persuasive arguments.

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