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>>> NOW WE GO TO HONG KONG THOUSANDS OF PRO-DEMOCRACY
THOUSANDS OF PRO-DEMOCRACY PROTESTERS ARE BEING ENGAGED IN
PROTESTERS ARE BEING ENGAGED IN WHAT IS CALLED THE UMBRELLA
WHAT IS CALLED THE UMBRELLA REVOLUTION.
REVOLUTION. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. THESE ARE LIFE PICTURES FROM THE
THESE ARE LIFE PICTURES FROM THE STREETS OF HONG KONG.
STREETS OF HONG KONG. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GATHER TO PROTEST BEGIN'S
PEOPLE GATHER TO PROTEST BEGIN'S PLAN TO SCREEN CANDIDATES FOR
PLAN TO SCREEN CANDIDATES FOR THE LEADER, THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE.
THE LEADER, THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE. THIS WAS THE SCENE YESTERDAY AS
THIS WAS THE SCENE YESTERDAY AS POLICE FIRED CANISTERS OF TEAR
POLICE FIRED CANISTERS OF TEAR GAS AND USED PEPPER SPRAY
GAS AND USED PEPPER SPRAY AGAINST PROTEST TRYING TO JOIN
AGAINST PROTEST TRYING TO JOIN COLLEGE STUDENTS.
COLLEGE STUDENTS. THE REASON FOR THE TERM UMBRELLA
THE REASON FOR THE TERM UMBRELLA REVOLUTION.
REVOLUTION. PEOPLE ARE USING THEM AS
PEOPLE ARE USING THEM AS PROTECTION AGAINST TEAR GAS.
PROTECTION AGAINST TEAR GAS. THIS MORNING REPORTS THAT SOCIAL
THIS MORNING REPORTS THAT SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITES INCLUDING
MEDIA WEBSITES INCLUDING INSTAGRAM ARE BEING BLOCKED BY
INSTAGRAM ARE BEING BLOCKED BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT. JOINING ME NOW BY PHONE CHINA
JOINING ME NOW BY PHONE CHINA CORRESPONDENT.
CORRESPONDENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME,
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME, FELI CIA.
FELI CIA. >> HI, JOSE.
>> HI, JOSE. IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE SCENE
IT'S A PRETTY REMARKABLE SCENE OF DEFIANCE HERE AGAINST
OF DEFIANCE HERE AGAINST BEIJING.
BEIJING. IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT
IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE RULING COMMUNIST PARTY HERE
THE RULING COMMUNIST PARTY HERE IS USED TO.
IS USED TO. AS A RESULT, IT'S QUITE HARD TO
AS A RESULT, IT'S QUITE HARD TO PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.
NEXT. WHAT STARTED OUT AS STUDENT LED
WHAT STARTED OUT AS STUDENT LED PROTESTS IN THE STREET OF HONG
PROTESTS IN THE STREET OF HONG KONG'S CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
KONG'S CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT HAS REALLY JUST MORPH INTO
HAS REALLY JUST MORPH INTO SOMETHING BIGGER THAN I THINK
SOMETHING BIGGER THAN I THINK ANY OF THOSE STUDENTS HAD
ANY OF THOSE STUDENTS HAD IMAGINED IT WOULD BE.
IMAGINED IT WOULD BE. MEMBERS OF THE SO CALLED OCCUPY
MEMBERS OF THE SO CALLED OCCUPY CENTRAL MOVEMENT ORIGINALLY
CENTRAL MOVEMENT ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO GONE 0 THE STREET,
PLANNED TO GONE 0 THE STREET, OCTOBER 1st.
OCTOBER 1st. THEY MOVED UP THE DATE SINCE THE
THEY MOVED UP THE DATE SINCE THE STUDENTS SEEMED TO TAKE CHARGE.
STUDENTS SEEMED TO TAKE CHARGE. NOW IT SEEMS THAT IT CAUGHT THE
NOW IT SEEMS THAT IT CAUGHT THE LEADERS OF BEIJING BY SURPRISE.
LEADERS OF BEIJING BY SURPRISE. THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN
THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN A HARD LINE ON THIS, AND IT
A HARD LINE ON THIS, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WILL
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WILL BUDGE BUT NEITHER WILL THE
BUDGE BUT NEITHER WILL THE STUDENTS.
STUDENTS. AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST RIGHT
AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST RIGHT NOW A MATTER OF WAITING AND
NOW A MATTER OF WAITING AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
SEEING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. >> AND I'M WONDERING HOW WHAT IS
>> AND I'M WONDERING HOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN HONG KONG IS BEING
GOING ON IN HONG KONG IS BEING PORTRAYED IN THE CHINESE MEDIA.
PORTRAYED IN THE CHINESE MEDIA. IT'S INTERESTING.
IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S LIFE AS USUAL IN BEIJING
IT'S LIFE AS USUAL IN BEIJING RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE REPORTS ON CHINESE
THERE ARE REPORTS ON CHINESE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES.
SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. THE CHINESE EQUIVALENT OF
THE CHINESE EQUIVALENT OF TWITTER THEY'VE BEEN DELETING
TWITTER THEY'VE BEEN DELETING POSTS AT A RATE HIGHER THAN
POSTS AT A RATE HIGHER THAN WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR.
WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR. THE STATE RUN MEDIA, THE TV AND
THE STATE RUN MEDIA, THE TV AND NEWSPAPERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE
NEWSPAPERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE COMMUNIST PARTY.
COMMUNIST PARTY. YOU ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT YOU
YOU ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO SEE.
TO SEE. THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW
THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW ANYTHING.
ANYTHING. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTING FROM BEIJING THIS
REPORTING FROM BEIJING THIS MORNING.
MORNING. APPRECIATE IT.
APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO BRING IN SOPHIA
I WANT TO BRING IN SOPHIA RICHARDSON.
RICHARDSON. GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH ME. YOU CALLED IT THE TECH TONIC
YOU CALLED IT THE TECH TONIC PLATES ARE MOVING IN HONG KONG.
PLATES ARE MOVING IN HONG KONG. WHAT IS GOING ON?
WHAT IS GOING ON? >> WELL, AS JUST MENTIONED, THE
>> WELL, AS JUST MENTIONED, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT
CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT ACCUSTOMED TO PEOPLE NOT
ACCUSTOMED TO PEOPLE NOT FOLLOWING ITS INSTRUCTIONS.
FOLLOWING ITS INSTRUCTIONS. IT'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR.
IT'S MADE IT VERY CLEAR. THE PRESIDENTS THE
THE PRESIDENTS THE DEMONSTRATIONS TO END AND FOR
DEMONSTRATIONS TO END AND FOR PEOPLE TO GO HOME.
PEOPLE TO GO HOME. BUT PEOPLE IN HONG KONG HAVE
BUT PEOPLE IN HONG KONG HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS.
VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A TERRITORY WHERE
YOU KNOW, IT'S A TERRITORY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF
PEOPLE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BEING ABLE TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST
BEING ABLE TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST AND TO GET SOME DEGREE OF
AND TO GET SOME DEGREE OF NEGOTIATION GOING WITH LOCAL
NEGOTIATION GOING WITH LOCAL OFFICIALS.
OFFICIALS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FIRST REAL CLASH WE'VE SEEN
FIRST REAL CLASH WE'VE SEEN BETWEEN THAT INTRANSIGENCE IN
BETWEEN THAT INTRANSIGENCE IN BEIJING BUT PRETTY BROAD CONCERN
BEIJING BUT PRETTY BROAD CONCERN ACROSS THE POPULATION OF HONG
ACROSS THE POPULATION OF HONG KONG THEY GET THE RIGHT TO
KONG THEY GET THE RIGHT TO DECIDE HOW HONG KONG AFFAIRS ARE
DECIDE HOW HONG KONG AFFAIRS ARE GOVERNED.
GOVERNED. >> TELL ME WHAT SPARKED THIS.
>> TELL ME WHAT SPARKED THIS. THIS IS NOT NEW.
THIS IS NOT NEW. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR YEARS.
YEARS. WHAT IS IT THAT SPARKED THIS
WHAT IS IT THAT SPARKED THIS UMBRELLA REVOLUTION?
UMBRELLA REVOLUTION? >> THE MOST IMMEDIATE PROBLEM
>> THE MOST IMMEDIATE PROBLEM WAS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT'S
WAS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT'S DECISION THAT IT AND IT ALONE
DECISION THAT IT AND IT ALONE WOULD VET CANDIDATES IT WOULD
WOULD VET CANDIDATES IT WOULD DECIDE WHO GETS TO RUN FOR THE
DECIDE WHO GETS TO RUN FOR THE TOP POLITICAL OFFICE IN HONG
TOP POLITICAL OFFICE IN HONG KONG.
KONG. THAT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE CAUSE.
THAT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE CAUSE. BUT THERE ARE OTHER TENSIONS
BUT THERE ARE OTHER TENSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SIMMERING BELOW
THAT HAVE BEEN SIMMERING BELOW THE SURFACE.
THE SURFACE. ESSENTIALLY ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE
ESSENTIALLY ABOUT WHETHER PEOPLE IN HONG KONG BELIEVE OR LOSING
IN HONG KONG BELIEVE OR LOSING CONFIDENCE THEIR LOCAL OFFICIALS
CONFIDENCE THEIR LOCAL OFFICIALS REPRESENT THEM OR WHETHER
REPRESENT THEM OR WHETHER INCREASINGLY DECISIONS ARE BEING
INCREASINGLY DECISIONS ARE BEING REFERRED TO BEIJING.
REFERRED TO BEIJING. AND, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO,
AND, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO, THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WERE
THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING AND THE
TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING AND THE ISSUES THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT
ISSUES THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING OVER WERE PRETTY
PROTESTING OVER WERE PRETTY NARROWLY DEFINED.
NARROWLY DEFINED. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTH
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTH WE'VE SEEN IT BECOME A BROADER
WE'VE SEEN IT BECOME A BROADER EFFORT.
EFFORT. I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING
I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OF ALL
SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OF ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS COMING OUT
DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS COMING OUT ON TO THE STREETS NOW.
ON TO THE STREETS NOW. >> HOW DOES IMPACT AN ON US?
>> HOW DOES IMPACT AN ON US? WHY SHOULD WE CARE?
WHY SHOULD WE CARE? >> WELL, LOOK, I THINK IF WE'RE
>> WELL, LOOK, I THINK IF WE'RE SEEING REGRESSIONS OF DEMOCRACY
SEEING REGRESSIONS OF DEMOCRACY AROUND THE WORLD, YOU KNOW,
AROUND THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REAL CONCERN.
THAT'S A REAL CONCERN. YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATIONS WHEN
YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATIONS WHEN HONG KONG RETURNED TO CHINESE
HONG KONG RETURNED TO CHINESE CONTROL WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE
CONTROL WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE POLITICAL SPACE FOR HONG
MORE POLITICAL SPACE FOR HONG KONG AND HOPEFULLY SOME PROGRESS
KONG AND HOPEFULLY SOME PROGRESS FOR DEMOCRACY INSIDE CHINA,
FOR DEMOCRACY INSIDE CHINA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR STEP
WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR STEP FORWARD FOR HUMANITY, WE THINK.
FORWARD FOR HUMANITY, WE THINK. IT'S A REAL CONCERN THAT HONG
IT'S A REAL CONCERN THAT HONG KONG'S POLITICS ARE STARTING TO
KONG'S POLITICS ARE STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THE
LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE THE MAINLAND'S.
MAINLAND'S. >> AND SOPHIA, HOW DO YOU SEE IT
>> AND SOPHIA, HOW DO YOU SEE IT ENDING?
ENDING? ?
? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHINESE
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GREAT AT
GOVERNMENT IS NOT GREAT AT BACKING DOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT
BACKING DOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS DONE SO IN THE PAST WITH
HAS DONE SO IN THE PAST WITH HONG KONG ISSUES AND DEBATES
HONG KONG ISSUES AND DEBATES AROUND OTHER PROBLEMATIC PIECES
AROUND OTHER PROBLEMATIC PIECES OF LEGISLATION.
OF LEGISLATION. THEY CERTAINLY WON'T ADMIT IT
THEY CERTAINLY WON'T ADMIT IT PUBLICLY.
PUBLICLY. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT THING OR WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO
THING OR WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO SEE, FIRST OF ALL, BEING
SEE, FIRST OF ALL, BEING PEOPLING APEOPLE
PEOPLING APEOPLE ING A ALLOWED TO PROTEST
ING A ALLOWED TO PROTEST PEACEFULLY WITHOUT GETTING TEAR
PEACEFULLY WITHOUT GETTING TEAR GASSED BUT BEIJING BACKING DOWN
GASSED BUT BEIJING BACKING DOWN ON THE RESTRICTIONS ABOUT WHO
ON THE RESTRICTIONS ABOUT WHO GETS TO BE A PART OF POLITICS IN
GETS TO BE A PART OF POLITICS IN HONG KONG.
HONG KONG. >> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS A
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS A CLEAR SOLUTION IN THE NEAR
CLEAR SOLUTION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
FUTURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >>> THE UNREST IN HONG KONG IS
>>> THE UNREST IN HONG KONG IS AFFECTING THE GLOBAL MARKET.
AFFECTING THE GLOBAL MARKET. THAT'S MY QUESTION WHY DO WE
THAT'S MY QUESTION WHY DO WE CARE?
CARE? THE U.S. STOCKS OPENED LOWER
THE U.S. STOCKS OPENED LOWER THIS MORNING.
THIS MORNING. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE
WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE DEVELOPING STORY OUT OF HONG
DEVELOPING STORY OUT OF HONG KONG AND BRING YOU