Name: 哈利-波特》視頻遊戲因J.K.羅琳的 "變性恐懼症 "遭到抵制：布里和羅比做出迴應 (Harry Potter Video Game BOYCOTTED Over J.K. Rowling 'Transphobia' Backlash: Brie & Robby REACT)
Uploaded: 2023-02-01T02:30:26.000Z
Duration: 9 min 4 s

Some Harry Potter fans are boycotting the new Hogwarts Legacy video game over the franchise's ties to controversial author J.K. Rowling,

一些哈里-波特的粉絲抵制新的霍格沃茨遺產視頻遊戲，因為該特許經營權與有爭議的作者J.K. 

who has faced backlash over her comments about the trans community.

羅琳因其對變性人群體的評論而面臨反擊。

一位微博用戶寫道："通過保持哈利-波特的相關性，引用。

"By keeping Harry Potter relevant, you are keeping J.K. Rowling relevant and directly giving her the power to be harmful to trans people. The end."

你在留住J。K. 羅琳有關，直接賦予她對變性人有害的權力。 

Another said, "If playing a wizard game is more important to you than the trans community, don't act surprised when some people no longer want to engage with you."

結尾又說，如果玩巫師遊戲對你來說比變性人社區更重要，當一些人不再願意與你交往時，不要表現得很驚訝。

Warner Brothers appears to have gone out of its way to distance itself from Rowling by allowing players the option to play as transgender characters,

華納兄弟似乎已經不遺餘力地與羅琳保持距離，允許玩家選擇扮演變性人角色，並在硬性規定的網站上明確指出。

and stating plainly on the Hogwarts Legacy website that Rowling was not involved in the development of the game.

那次集會並沒有參與遊戲的開發。

I mean, we've talked about this a little bit, like,

我的意思是，我們已經談到了這一點，就像我認為在某一點上，一個已經存在了20多年的專營權。

I think at a certain point, a franchise that's existed for, like, 20 years plus now that means so much to so many people,

現在這對許多人來說意味著很多。

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say everybody who loves harry potter who grew up with harry potter long before JK Rowling said anything disparaging about still liking harry potter would hope.

我認為說每個喜歡哈利-波特的人，在JK羅琳說過任何貶低仍然喜歡哈利-波特的話語之前，早就在哈利-波特中長大的人都會希望，這有點牽強。

Yeah, I mean look, if I were hanging out with a trans friend, would I bring my box set catalog of harry potter with me and talk about how amazing JK rally is.

是的，我的意思是，如果我和一個變性人朋友出去玩，我會不會帶上我的哈里-波特的盒裝目錄，並談論JK集會是多麼令人驚訝。

Um, but kind of expecting people to divest from there kind of longstanding commitments.

嗯，但有點期待人們從那種長期的承諾中撤資。

I mean we talk about this in so many other contexts.

我的意思是，我們在許多其他背景下談論這個問題。

We all learn about the founding fathers and admire things that they did despite owning slaves and being real pissed, you know, we we listen to artists who have been very problematic.

我們都瞭解開國元勳，欽佩他們所做的事情，儘管他們擁有奴隸，而且是真正的生氣，你知道，我們我們聽的藝術家都有很大的問題。

Maybe they shouldn't, maybe the Academy Awards shouldn't grant roman polanski Oscars and things like that.

也許他們不應該，也許奧斯卡獎不應該授予羅曼-波蘭斯基奧斯卡獎之類的東西。

But for regular people, not the people in power and authority, but for regular people kind of making the consumption habits this vessel for collective politics, I think seems to be a little bit of a reach.

但對於普通人來說，不是掌權者和權威者，而是普通人那種使消費習慣成為集體政治的容器，我認為似乎有點力不從心。

Again, they separate the art from the artist set like harry potter.

同樣，他們把藝術與藝術家的設定分開，就像哈利-波特一樣。

The content of harry potter is not doesn't have much to say.

哈里-波特的內容並沒有什麼可說的。

I don't think on gender issues that that is insulting or disliked by the trans community.

我不認為在性別問題上，這是對變性群體的侮辱或不喜歡。

There's some other things in harry potter that people have complained about over the years, other kinds of stereotypes who the bankers and goblins are and things like that.

哈里-波特中還有一些其他的東西，多年來人們一直在抱怨，其他種類的刻板印象，銀行家和妖精是誰，諸如此類的東西。

There's been a discourse about those other aspects of harry potter.

關於哈里-波特的那些其他方面，已經有了論述。

I am in fact listening to them on audio book right now as we speak.

事實上，在我們說話的時候，我正在聽他們的音頻書。

I just got to the fourth book, that's what I've been doing in the new year had had a long drive back from Detroit to to D.

我剛剛讀到第四本書，這是我在新的一年裡一直在做的事情，有一次從底特律開車回來到D市的長途旅行。

After christmas and listen to the first three on tape and I'm on to the fourth one.

聖誕節過後，聽了前三部的錄音帶，我又開始聽第四部。

Now look, I am a big fan, I respect, I mean like you can take carrie potter from my cold dead Hands category and if you feel differently for someone who can no longer enjoy the stories because of what you know about J.

現在看，我是一個大粉絲，我尊重，我的意思是，就像你可以從我冰冷的死手上拿走卡莉-波特一類的東西，如果你對那些因為你對J的瞭解而不能再享受故事的人有不同的感受。

Rowling's politics, I also respect that like I completely appreciate folks, that's fine about this.

羅琳的政治，我也尊重，就像我完全欣賞鄉親們一樣，這一點很好。

I have a hard time imagining me really liking something and then not liking it anymore because I found out the creator was ex like I just can't put myself, so then it becomes hard for me to understand other people feeling that way.

我很難想象我真的喜歡某樣東西，然後不再喜歡它，因為我發現創作者是前任，就像我不能把自己放進去一樣，所以後來我就很難理解其他人的這種感覺。

Like if I found out, I don't know, I can't fill in that blank with something, so I just, I can't support this anymore.

就像如果我發現了，我不知道，我不能用一些東西來填補這個空白，所以我只是，我不能再支持這個。

I think the one that I like, I'm very used to liking things that don't have politics that are similar to mine.

我覺得我喜歡的那個，我很習慣於喜歡那些沒有和我的政治相似的東西。

That I either the thing itself does not have politics that are similar to mine or the creator does some ones that I struggle with is so you know, when I was in college it was nonstop R kelly bangers, these were on the soundtrack to my senior year experience.

我要麼事情本身沒有與我相似的政治，要麼創造者做了一些我掙扎的事情，所以你知道，當我在大學時，它是不間斷的R-凱利危險品，這些是我大四經歷的原聲帶。

Like these songs have a lot of nostalgia for me, I do hesitate, like now when I hear it when I hear the song play, I do have a hard time not thinking about r kelly.

就像這些歌曲對我來說有很多懷舊的感覺，我確實猶豫不決，就像現在當我聽到這首歌的時候，我確實很難不想到r kelly。

Um and the way he's abused all these women and it negatively affects my experience and I would choose not to play it out loud at a party at my house or something like that.

嗯，還有他虐待所有這些婦女的方式，它對我的經驗產生了負面影響，我會選擇不在我家的聚會上大聲播放它，或者類似的東西。

But there are other contexts where I'm with my college friends and we have our college playlist and it's coming up in that context and I feel like my my other memories, my other associations with the music supersede the like raw.

但也有其他情況，我和我的大學朋友在一起，我們有我們的大學播放列表，它在這種情況下出現了，我覺得我的其他記憶，我對音樂的其他聯想取代了類似的原始。

I don't care about, you know, some of the other songs that were like Poppin during like the Senior Boat Ride, Those are the ones that I struggle.

我不關心，你知道，其他一些歌曲，就像《老年船》期間的Poppin，那些是我掙扎的。

So it's a mixed bag or let's say um sometimes watching Bill Cosby in the context of the Cosby show.

是以，這是一個混合的袋子，或者讓我們說嗯，有時在科斯比秀的背景下看比爾-科斯比。

I don't think it should be taken off tv, I don't think it should have been taken off of netflix, however, or wherever it was streaming, there are moments where I look at him because the gap between his persona and who he is is so significant that watching him play with little kids and be so sweet and be such a good father.

我不認為它應該從電視上撤下來，我不認為它應該從netflix上撤下來，然而，或者無論它在哪裡流傳，有的時候我看著他，因為他的角色和他的身份之間的差距是如此之大，看著他和小孩子一起玩，如此可愛，成為一個好父親。

It is jarring and it negatively impacts my enjoyment of the show so I can relate to that experience.

這很刺耳，它對我享受節目產生了負面影響，所以我可以理解這種經歷。

But that doesn't lead me to say anybody who watches the Cosby show is bad or anybody who watches the Cosby show is indifferent to Bill Cosby's rapes or r r kelly's maybe I'm weird, I I can't I just can't imagine feeling that way.

但這並不導致我說任何看考斯比節目的人都是壞人，或者任何看考斯比節目的人都對比爾-考斯比的強姦或R-R-凱利的強姦無動於衷，也許我很奇怪，我我不能，我只是無法想象這種感覺。

I don't I don't think I've ever stopped liking something because of the creator's politics or having done something bad.

我不我不認為我曾經因為創作者的政治立場或做了什麼壞事而不再喜歡什麼。

I can't I just can't think of anything like that.

我不能，我就是想不出這樣的事情。

If I if I didn't like the thing, I didn't like the thing and obviously your tastes change.

如果我如果我不喜歡這個東西，我就不喜歡這個東西，顯然你的口味會改變。

There's some music I liked back when I was a kid that I don't I wouldn't listen to now but not because anything about the creator changed.

有一些我小時候喜歡的音樂，我現在不會聽，但不是因為創作者有什麼變化。

Well are the behaviors that are that if maybe there's just not stuff that offends you that Yeah, I just I think that could be it.

那麼，那些行為是，如果也許沒有冒犯你的東西，是的，我只是我認為這可能是它。

Which is why I have struggled with some of this.

這就是為什麼我對其中的一些內容感到糾結。

I can't imagine like it's fine to not like harry potter.

我無法想象，好像不喜歡哈利-波特也沒什麼。

I just like if you like it and you're like I can have nothing to do with it now because I disagree with the things J.

我只是喜歡如果你喜歡它，而你又喜歡我現在可以和它沒有關係，因為我不同意J的事情。

Rowling has said, I I really don't understand that, but it's clearly something that a lot of people feel, which is fine.

羅琳說，我我真的不明白，但這顯然是很多人的感受，這很好。

I do think that there are feelings that people have as a consequence of feeling attacked not abstractly, but by the legal system on account of their identity.

我確實認為，人們會有這樣的感覺，即不是抽象地感覺到被攻擊，而是因為他們的身份而被法律系統攻擊。

That can sometimes make certain bad actions from people more viscerally felt than they are for other people.

這有時會使人們對某些不良行為的感受比對其他人的感受更直觀。

women who have been victims of sexual assault might feel more strongly about watching someone like Bill Cosby or R kelly, for example, people who are now the subject of like the slate of 20 odd laws, anti trans laws who who are now are denied.

遭受過性侵犯的女性可能會對觀看像比爾-考斯比或R-凱利這樣的人有更強烈的感覺，例如，現在是像20多條法律的主題，反變性法律的人，他們現在被拒絕了。

The legal ability to transition might feel more strongly about R.

轉型的法律能力可能對R的感覺更強烈。

Rowling's statements and the extent to which she may have empowered.

羅琳的聲明以及她可能授權的程度。

Arguably some of that legislation here in the United States, people who have, you know, recent relatives, great grandparents and such who were sharecroppers or slaves themselves might have a different attitude towards the founding fathers and their owning of human beings than someone for whom it's more of an abstraction or who is a more recent immigrant to United States of America and I think that those are legitimate and I have empathy for it for those reasons.

可以說，在美國這裡的一些立法，那些有，你知道，最近的親戚，曾祖父母之類的人，他們自己是佃農或奴隸，可能對開國元勳和他們對人的所有權有不同的態度，而對那些更抽象的人，或者是最近才移民到美國的人，我認為這些是合理的，我對這些原因有共鳴。

And I think that if I were trans, I probably would feel differently about J.

我想，如果我是變性人，我可能會對J有不同的感受。

Rowling the way I might feel more strongly about people who have been anti black.

羅琳的方式，我可能對那些反黑的人有更強烈的感受。

I can absolutely understand feeling differently about JK rolling based on the things she said, if you fit into that category, it's the and now I can't enjoy harry potter and I agree and that's the part I have, which is totally fine if you feel that way now I can't enjoy harry potter now I judge everybody else who does.

我絕對可以理解根據她說的事情對JK滾動的不同感受，如果你符合這一類，那就是和現在我不能享受哈利波特，我同意，這是我的部分，如果你覺得現在我不能享受哈利波特，我評判其他所有人，這是完全可以的。

Well that I think it's probably that's where I have a little bit of an issue and and the kind of censorship drive to say this stuff shouldn't exist in the public sphere.

好吧，我認為這可能是我有一點問題的地方，而且是那種審查驅動，說這些東西不應該存在於公共領域。

我們必須把它從貨架上撤下來。

I mean if we started down that road, there'd be no books on the shelves.

我是說如果我們開始走這條路，書架上就沒有書了。

I am really excited for this video game, I have to say it takes place, I believe in the 1919th century.

我對這個視頻遊戲真的很興奮，我不得不說，它發生的地方，我相信是在1919年的世紀。

So before the Harry Potter story takes place and you're going to be in one of one of the Harry Potter houses and it sounds really exciting.

所以在哈利-波特的故事發生之前，你將會在哈利-波特的其中一個房子裡，聽起來真的很令人興奮。

I'm gonna have to wait for it to come to the Nintendo switch though because that's the station, that's the system that I own.

不過我得等著它登陸任天堂交換機，因為那是我的工作站，那是我的系統。

And I think that might be, can you play remotely with people?

而我認為這可能是，你能與人遠程遊戲嗎？

Okay, well, if you can, if you want to look me up on Nintendo online, I'll be the trans character.

好吧，如果你可以，如果你想在任天堂網上查找我，我將是反式角色。

我們可以我們可以我們可以決出勝負。

I will be in the house no doubt about that, no doubt about that at all.

我將在房子裡，這一點毫無疑問，一點也不懷疑。