'cause that's when I really decided

因為那是我真正決定的時候

that I was gonna pursue it wholeheartedly.

我打算全心全意地追求它。

It was like this big circle moment

這就像這個大圓圈的時刻

in one of my teacher's classes in high school.

在我高中時的一個老師的課上。

She assigned me this poem called "Our Deepest Fear,"

她分配給我的這首詩叫 "我們最深的恐懼"。

and I remember my mom coming up to me and she was like,

我記得我媽媽走到我身邊，她說。

"I didn't know you were good".

"我不知道你很厲害"。

(laughing)

(笑)

And I was like, "yeah, yeah, I do okay".

我當時想，"是的，是的，我做得很好"。

I'm Moses Ingram and this is "On the Rise".

我是摩西-英格拉姆，這裡是 "崛起之路"。

I grew up in the church and so most of the things

我是在教會中長大的，所以大多數的事情

I really did when I was younger were like

我年輕的時候真的很喜歡

those church plays where you get up

那些教堂的戲劇，你站起來

and you talk about Easter and Martin Luther King

和你談論復活節和馬丁-路德-金

and all of those things, which I hated doing.

以及所有這些事情，我不喜歡做。

But I think it was more-

但我認為這更...

It wasn't that I didn't like being in front of people

我並不是不喜歡在人們面前出現

because I loved being in front of people.

因為我喜歡在人們面前出現。

I just didn't like being told to do it.

我只是不喜歡被告知要這樣做。

And so I think that was the disconnect

是以，我認為這就是脫節的地方

but that was my beginning for sure.

但那是我確定的開始。

I've been doing it since I was 10.

我從10歲開始就一直在做這個工作。

My teacher, Ms. Williams at the time,

我的老師，當時的威廉姆斯女士。

she told my mom it would make me more communicative

她告訴我媽媽，這將使我更容易與人溝通

and control my behavior a little bit better.

並更好地控制我的行為。

It didn't do any of those things,

它沒有做任何這些事情。

but it sort of became the dangling carrot

但它有點成為懸而未決的胡蘿蔔

to my behavior and sort of pursued it relentlessly.

對我的行為，有點無情地追問。

And when I was 19, I got my first job at a local theater

當我19歲的時候，我在當地的一個劇院找到了我的第一份工作

called Everyman Theater in Baltimore.

叫做巴爾的摩的Everyman劇院。

And it was ruined by Lynn Nottage.

它被林恩-諾奇毀了。

And that was sort of the door opener for me, I guess.

我想，這對我來說是一種好採頭。

A song that I really liked when I was younger...

我年輕時非常喜歡的一首歌...

So I have an old soul.

所以我有一個古老的靈魂。

So it wasn't really one song that I really love,

是以，這並不是真的有一首我真正喜歡的歌。

but my mother would play out

但我的母親將發揮出

the "Waiting to Exhale" soundtrack and I legit,

等待呼氣 "的原聲帶，我是合法的。

I was not, I don't know, maybe like three years old,

我當時沒有，我不知道，也許是三歲的樣子。

knowing that entire album front to back

對整張專輯從頭到尾的瞭解

and still bop to it today.

並在今天仍在為它鼓掌。

Cause it just brings me peace when I think about it.

因為當我想到這一點時，它只是給我帶來了平靜。

So probably yeah, the "Waiting to Exhale" soundtrack

所以可能是的，"等待呼氣 "原聲帶

Our series, Obi-Wan Kenobi, is different

我們的系列，歐比旺-克諾比，是不同的

than I think what people might be used to.

比我認為人們可能習慣的要好。

It's grittier, it's got a little more bite to it.

它更狡猾，它有更多的咬勁。

Ewan's back and Hayden's back,

伊萬回來了，海登回來了。

which I know the fans are really excited to see.

我知道粉絲們真的很想看到這一點。

We were working really hard, so I hope people enjoy it.

我們非常努力地工作，所以我希望人們喜歡它。

When I was auditioning,

我在試鏡的時候。

I did not know I was auditioning for "Star Wars".

我不知道我在為 "星球大戰 "進行試鏡。

It sort of just were these like loose sides.

它只是這些像鬆散的側面。

And I remember reading it and I was like,

我記得讀完後我就想。

"this is a bad (beep). I dunno who she is, but I'm with it".

"這是個壞的（嗶）。我不知道她是誰，但我和它在一起"。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

And I was very excited and I don't think it was until

我當時非常興奮，我認為直到

maybe into my second or third audition

也許進入我的第二次或第三次試鏡

that I realized that it was "Star Wars".

我才意識到這是 "星球大戰"。

But I definitely didn't know at the beginning.

但我一開始肯定不知道。

What does it feel like to be joining the franchise?

加入特許經營權是什麼感覺？

I wasn't a huge "Star Wars" fan to begin with.

我一開始就不是一個巨大的 "星戰 "迷。

I didn't know too much about "Star Wars"

我對 "星球大戰 "沒有太多瞭解

so I won't lie to you.

所以我不會對你撒謊。

But I've sort of been welcomed and enveloped

但我已經被歡迎和包圍了

into this world that is it and it's very exciting for me

進入這個世界，這是它，對我來說非常令人興奮。

because it's been around much longer than I've been alive.

因為它存在的時間比我活著的時間長得多。

But it's exciting to think that from the very beginning,

但是，從一開始就這樣想是很令人興奮的。

it's been holding a spot just for me,

它一直在為我保留一個位置。

whether I knew it or not.

無論我是否知道。

So it's lit. It's lit, yeah.

所以它被點燃了。它被點燃了，是的。

The biggest moment of my career?

我職業生涯中最重要的時刻是什麼？

I feel like it keeps being topped.

我覺得它一直被頂著。

But I'll say the biggest moment that I've had thus far

但我要說的是，迄今為止，我所經歷的最大時刻是

was probably the Emmy nomination

可能是艾美獎的提名

because where did that come from?

因為這是從哪裡來的？

I don't know.

我不知道。

I was very, very shocked and I just remember

我非常、非常震驚，我只記得

needing to get real close to the floor

需要真正接近地面

cause we didn't campaign or anything.

因為我們沒有競選或任何東西。

It just was sort of there.

它只是某種程度上的存在。

And I think I've also just been blessed

我想我也剛剛得到了祝福

to meet so many people that I admire.

遇到這麼多我敬佩的人。

I feel like-

我覺得...

I say often, I feel like I'm collecting infinity stones.

我經常說，我覺得我在收集無限的石頭。

In this business, on the road that I've been on,

在這個行業中，在我所走過的路上。

I've been really blessed to be able to tell people

我真的很有福氣，能夠告訴人們

that I love, that I love them.

我愛，我愛他們。

Which can be weird for them, right?

這對他們來說可能很奇怪，對嗎？

Because it's like, who is this girl

因為它就像，這個女孩是誰？

and what are you talking about?

你在說什麼？

But like, I grew up watching TV, loving TV movies,

但就像，我是看著電視長大的，喜歡電視電影。

and so I have spent some of my greatest and lowest moments

是以，我度過了一些最重要和最低的時刻

with these people who are only just meeting me.

與這些才剛剛認識我的人在一起。

And to get to see them and interact with them

並能看到他們，與他們互動

has been really special for me.

對我來說，這真的很特別。

My biggest role model inspiration's gotta be my mother.

我最大的榜樣靈感應該是我的母親。

My mother, for sure.

我的母親，當然了。

She just rock with me, man. She just does.

她只是和我一起搖滾，夥計。她就是這樣。

And like in moments where people were like,

而像在人們喜歡的時刻。

"she need to do something real with her life",

"她需要對她的生活做一些真正的事情"。

nobody could see the vision the way I felt like

沒有人能夠像我一樣看到這一幕。

I could see the vision

我可以看到這個願景

and she always made room, continues to make room,

而她總是騰出空間，繼續騰出空間。

for me to talk about it.

為我談論它。

And then the work?

然後是工作？

I am a Nicole Beharie, Aunjanue Ellis stan.

我是Nicole Beharie、Aunjanue Ellis的粉絲。

I go up for them.

我為他們上去了。

Yeah. I just, I love nerding out

是的，我只是，我喜歡書呆子。

over just believing what someone says.

而不是僅僅相信別人說的話。

Oh my God.

哦，我的上帝。

When I'm watching someone and I'm like,

當我在看一個人的時候，我就會想。

"you could read me the back of a cereal box

"你可以給我讀麥片盒的背面

and I would be like, you know what fine. Yeah, yeah.

我就會說，你知道的，很好。是的，是的。

I would buy tickets to that".

我願意買票去看。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

If I weren't an actor, I think I'd be a chiropractor.

如果我不是一個演員，我想我會成為一名脊椎按摩師。

I think because I like the sound of bone shifting

我想是因為我喜歡骨頭晃動的聲音

and I like the idea of feeling that under my hands.

而且我喜歡在我的手掌下感受到這種感覺。

But I didn't like school.

但我不喜歡學校。

I did not like traditional school.

我不喜歡傳統的學校。

I would not want to do that, so it worked out.

我不想這樣做，所以它就成功了。

Why am I excited to have this platform?

為什麼我對擁有這個平臺感到興奮？

I never saw any of...

我從未見過任何...

Like this.

像這樣。

I always just really wanted to do good work.

我一直只是真的想做好工作。

I think with great power comes great responsibility.

我認為巨大的權力伴隨著巨大的責任。

And I can't say that I really know what my place is yet

我還不能說我真的知道我的位置是什麼。

but I know that I desire to,

但我知道，我渴望這樣做。

as I'm in front of people,

因為我在人們面前。

continue to try to be my most authentic self.

繼續努力做最真實的自己。

When I'm in front of people

當我在人前的時候

and someone's asking me something about something,

而有人在問我一些事情。

is to tell people I don't have the answers

是告訴人們我沒有答案

nor do I believe I have the answers.

我也不相信我有答案。

I just believe that I'm a person trying every day.

我只是相信，我是一個每天都在努力的人。

Just like everybody else.

就像其他人一樣。

My dream scenario in five years?

我在五年內的夢想場景是什麼？

I will have found the place that I really wanna call home.

我將找到我真正想稱之為家的地方。

I'll be creating opportunities for other people

我將為其他人創造機會

and being better at multitasking and making time

並更善於處理多任務和安排時間

for my personal life and loving my family.

為我的個人生活和愛我的家人。

(gentle music)

(溫柔的音樂)