Ukrainian citizens to try to intimidate them into capitulating they're not gonna do that.

烏克蘭公民試圖恐嚇他們投降，他們不會這樣做。

That was US President joe biden saying Vladimir Putin is running out of options in Ukraine.

那是美國總統喬-拜登說普京在烏克蘭已經沒有選擇了。

And Washington has played a big part in that since february, the U.

而華盛頓在這方面發揮了很大作用，自2月以來，美國。

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Congress has approved tens of billions of dollars to help Ukraine defend itself against Russian forces.

國會已經準許了數百億美元的資金，幫助烏克蘭抵禦俄羅斯軍隊。

In so far that funding has enjoyed strong bipartisan support, both in the Senate and the House.

到目前為止，該資金在參議院和眾議院都得到了兩黨的大力支持。

The US along with its Western allies, has promised to back Ukraine for as long as it takes with weapons and humanitarian aid.

美國及其西方盟友承諾，只要烏克蘭需要，就會提供武器和人道主義援助。

But with the U.

但隨著美國。

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Midterm elections less than three weeks away and the republicans likely to take control of Congress, there are signs that cross party support might be starting to wane this week.

距離中期選舉不到三週，共和黨可能控制國會，有跡象表明，本週跨黨派支持可能開始減弱。

The Republican House minority leader, kevin McCarthy gave this warning in an interview.

共和黨眾議院少數派領袖凱文-麥卡錫在接受採訪時發出了這樣的警告。

He said, I think people are going to be sitting in a recession and they're not going to write a blank check to Ukraine.

他說，我認為人們將坐在經濟衰退中，他們不會給烏克蘭開一張空白支票。

They just won't do it.

他們就是不願意做。

It's not a free blank check.

這不是一張免費的空白支票。

And I want to talk about all of this with our Washington correspondent.

我想和我們的華盛頓記者討論一下這一切。

So me some mask and assuming so good to see you.

所以我的一些面具和假設，所以很高興見到你。

So is kevin McCarthy really saying the republicans will cut funding for Ukraine if they win control of Congress.

那麼，凱文-麥卡錫是否真的說，如果共和黨贏得國會控制權，他們將削減對烏克蘭的資助。

Nicole.

尼科爾。

That's a question a lot of people have been asking in Washington today because this really is the first time that we have publicly heard a leading Republican signal, doubt about the resiliency of US support for Ukraine.

這是今天在華盛頓很多人都在問的一個問題，因為這真的是我們第一次公開聽到一個主要的共和黨人發出信號，懷疑美國對烏克蘭的支持是否有彈性。

And Kevin McCarthy of course, is the House minority Leader.

當然還有凱文-麥卡錫，他是眾議院少數派領袖。

So that means he's the top Republican in the House of Representatives right now.

是以，這意味著他現在是眾議院中的頂級共和黨人。

And as you said, this is an issue that until now has gotten broad bipartisan support.

正如你所說，這是一個直到現在都得到兩黨廣泛支持的問題。

I mean, both parties have been very eager to show that they are firmly behind Ukraine.

我的意思是，兩黨都非常急切地想表明他們堅定地支持烏克蘭。

The White House has said on multiple occasions that they see this war as fundamental to U.

白宮在多個場合表示，他們認為這場戰爭是美國的根本。

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Security as well.

安全也是如此。

Congress has approved tens of billions of dollars of humanitarian aid.

國會已經準許了數百億美元的人道主義援助。

The White House has sent of course billions of dollars worth of military equipment as well.

白宮當然也發送了價值數十億美元的軍事裝備。

So, these comments have raised eyebrows Nicole and I thought it was interesting what the White House said that they were asked about McCarthy's comments and the press secretary, Karen jean Pierre, didn't really address it.

是以，這些評論引起了尼科爾的注意，我認為白宮的說法很有意思，他們被問及麥卡錫的評論，新聞祕書卡倫-簡-皮埃爾並沒有真正解決這個問題。

She thanked Congress for its bipartisan work in supporting Ukraine and she said, quote, the White House will continue to monitor those conversations on these efforts and support Ukraine as long as it takes.

她感謝國會兩黨在支持烏克蘭方面所做的工作，她說，引用一下，白宮將繼續監測關於這些努力的這些對話，並支持烏克蘭，只要它需要。

So this is the first time we're hearing something like that uttered in public.

所以這是我們第一次聽到有人在公開場合說出這樣的話。

But how popular is that opinion among the GOP?

但這種觀點在美國共和黨中有多受歡迎呢？

Maybe even behind closed doors, it's hard to tell Nicole.

也許甚至是閉門造車，這很難告訴尼科爾。

I mean, I think first we have to dig down into what Kevin McCarthy said, and if you if you look at the quote, he said, it is not a free blank check and that I think is in part a nod towards a growing sentiment among many republicans that there needs to be more oversight of how money is spent.

我的意思是，我認為首先我們必須深入瞭解凱文-麥卡錫所說的話，如果你如果看一下這句話，他說，這不是一張免費的空白支票，我認為這在一定程度上是對許多共和黨人中日益增長的情緒的一種點頭，即需要對錢的使用情況進行更多的監督。

I mean, we are talking about billions of dollars of military equipment and republicans are essentially saying many of them are saying there's not enough close monitoring of exactly how that money is being spent, where it is going uh if it's ending up in the right hands, if it's supposed to be ending up where where it was intended to end up and the U.

我的意思是，我們談論的是數十億美元的軍事裝備，而共和黨人基本上說，他們中的許多人說，對這些錢到底是怎麼花的，它的去向呃，如果它最終落在正確的人手中，如果它應該在它打算結束的地方結束，美國沒有足夠的密切監督。

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Has been delivering weapons and aid at such a fast speed that it isn't easy to track where it's all going.

一直在以如此快的速度運送武器和援助，以至於不容易追蹤它的去向。

So republicans, as an answer to that have offered amendments to assistance packages that would create a special inspector who would monitor US funded aid into Ukraine as a way to to amend this.

是以，作為對這一問題的回答，共和黨人提出了對援助計劃的修正案，即設立一個特別檢查員，負責監督美國對烏克蘭的援助，以此來修正這一做法。

That might be what Kevin McCarthy was signaling.

這可能是凱文-麥卡錫發出的信號。

But Nicole, I think there's something else to look at here that is a divide in the Republican Party for the most part, as we said, congressional republicans have stood behind Ukraine.

但妮可，我認為這裡還有一些東西要看，那就是共和黨內的分歧，在大多數情況下，正如我們所說，國會的共和黨人都支持烏克蘭。

But if you look at the hard right wing of the party, so the republicans who are tied to former president trump, they have expressed more pro Russian and pro Putin sentiment in the past.

但是，如果你看一下黨內的強硬右翼，那麼與前總統特朗普有聯繫的共和黨人，他們在過去表達了更多親俄羅斯和親普京的情緒。

So I think we're seeing in part a question about where aid is going and also a rift in the Republican party, the US is the biggest supporter of Ukraine's war effort.

是以，我認為我們在某種程度上看到了關於援助去向的問題，也看到了共和黨內的裂痕，美國是烏克蘭戰爭努力的最大支持者。

Is this an issue voters are worried about going into the midterms.

這是否是選民在進入中期選舉時擔心的問題。

I think it's important to say there is still broad support for Ukraine and a rejection of Russia.

我認為，重要的是說仍然有對烏克蘭的廣泛支持和對俄羅斯的拒絕。

But that interest and concern has waned.

但這種興趣和關注已經減弱。

And I looked at a study from the Pew Research Center, they polled Americans in September and that study showed that the share of US adults who are concerned about Ukraine losing this war, it is down to 38%, it was 55 per percent in May.

我看了皮尤研究中心的一項研究，他們在9月對美國人進行了調查，該研究顯示，擔心烏克蘭輸掉這場戰爭的美國成年人的比例，下降到38%，5月時是55%。

So that number is dropping and interestingly enough and cold, there's a partisan difference.

是以，這個數字正在下降，有趣的是，而且很冷，有一個黨派的差異。

So democrats are more likely than republicans to express a high level of concern about issues related to the war.

所以民主黨人比共和黨人更有可能對與戰爭有關的問題表示高度關注。

So it's safe to say it's not a major issue heading into these midterm elections.

是以，可以說這不是進入這些中期選舉的一個主要問題。

But the economy is inflation is high.

但經濟是通貨膨脹率很高。

Gas prices have picked up again.

汽油價格再次回升。

And that is something the biden administration has struggled to address.

而這是拜登政府一直在努力解決的問題。

We've talked to plenty of voters, me and my D.

我們已經和很多選民談過，我和我的D。

W colleagues here who say the economy is top of mind.

我們這裡的同事都說經濟是頭等大事。

So what kevin McCarthy is touching upon here is how long that this broad spending for Ukraine can continue with so many americans struggling economically.

是以，凱文-麥卡錫在這裡觸及的是，在這麼多美國人在經濟上掙扎的情況下，這種對烏克蘭的廣泛支出可以持續多長時間。

And I know that's a question being asked there in Germany and europe as well.

我知道在德國和歐洲也在問這個問題。

But combined with midterm elections, it does have some abs servers concerned and one more note in that Nicole, remember republicans are expected to win back the House of Representatives in these upcoming midterm elections, so we could really have an impact what we heard from Kevin McCarthy.

但結合中期選舉，它確實有一些abs服務器的關注，在那個Nicole還有一個說明，記住共和黨人預計將在這些即將到來的中期選舉中贏回眾議院，所以我們真的可以有一個影響，我們從Kevin McCarthy那裡聽到了什麼。

Exactly.

正是如此。

So thank you so much, Always great speaking to you.

所以，非常感謝你，和你說話總是很開心。