Schumann's Piano Sonata（Anna Han: Schumann's Piano Sonata No. 1 | Juilliard Sir András Schiff Piano Master Class）

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♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
(audience applauding)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
ANDRAS SCHIFF: Beautiful, thank you.
It's a wonderful piece.
Isn't it?
ANNA HAN: Yeah, it's beautiful.
SCHIFF: Very.
So...
But you see...
It's very good, most of it.
People say of Schumann's late music that mentally unstable.
I don't know anything more mentally unstable
than this sonata.
(audience laughs)
This is a young, a relatively young piece, yeah?
But you know, it took him...
It's very hard for composers
to write piano sonata after Beethoven.
He's like--you know--a father figure in piano sonatas.
So, even for Schubert, this was always very difficult,
and he struggled with this sonata a lot.
So that's very good if it comes
across in the interpretation.
Should not be easy.
However, there are some elements
which have to be better organized, rhythmically.
Let's just establish this motive.
♫ ♫ ♫ [bouncy orchestral music]
So always the falling fifths.
This represents Clara.
Because Clara is
♪ La, cla, a-la ♪
You hear that?
Re is D in Italian. So...
A and re, yeah?
So it's, within the transpose. (hums)
And the (hums).
♫ ♫ ♫ [lilting orchestral music]
So, always the
Think of this like a light motif in the whole sonata.
It would be good to play for me this one.
♫ ♫ ♫ Andras humming
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So, and see.
Always the falling fifths. (hums)
What does this rhythm remind you of?
[HAN] It could be a horse galloping.
[SCHIFF] Exactly, exactly, horses. You know? (hums)
And why is that?
Can you tell me?
Why are there horses here?
HAN: I'm not sure. Maybe he's traveling. (chuckles)
SCHIFF: Yeah, he would.
So this, we know from Schumann's description,
this is like an outcry after Clara.
They were madly in love with each other,
but Clara's father, Friedrich Wieck,
famous piano teacher and pedagogue, he didn't want
to hear of this relationship and sent Clara far away.
So he would like to take a horse
and gallop, just ride to her.
This is my interpretation, but it's not far from the truth.
So you have to suggest it. (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Yeah, but you are too, when the semi quavers,
what's it in American, 16th note, yes. (hums)
Start a little later.
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Yes!
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Listen.
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming and playing piano]
When you get into forte fortissimo, you lose the quality. Yeah?
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Good!
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That's good. (hums)
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Yes.
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Clear the air with the pedal.
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Okay. (hums)
(Andras speaks in foreign language)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras hums]
You have to raise your blood pressure here, yes?
(audience laughs)
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Yes. (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras hums and plays piano]
Horns, yeah?
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And!
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I couldn't pedal with shoes like that.
(audience laughing)
It's very beautiful, but of course, you have to (hums).
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(hums) Play that along, just right there.
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Yeah, it's good.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming and playing piano]
Yeah, yeah!
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Okay, now go back to the (hums).
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Yeah?
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Excellent! (claps)
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Shh, relax. (hums)
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Shh.
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Okay, now, it would be nice to have
a more natural rubato here.
It's a little bit stereotype.
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras hums]
Take away the bar lines, no bar lines.
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(hums) Change the color. (hums)
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Again, we have the falling fifth, (hums) yes?
And!
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Okay, please, just a moment. (hums)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras hums]
This pedal is not good. (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Good!
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Okay, how is the voice syncing? (hums)
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I would bring up a little more of the tenor voice.
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Yes.
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♫ ♫ ♫ Andras humming
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You see, at the end of the movement,
the slowing down is fine, but not here
because there is no tempo change, really.
The tiny bit of difference, but. (hums)
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Not in half tempo. (hums)
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It's a sonata so this is the final subject
of this movement, yes? (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Very good.
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Okay, now.
The phrase lengths is irregular, yes?
So let's just play (hums).
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(hums) Four bars now, one. (hums)
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Six bars, now shh.
We start now at one. (hums)
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Four bars. (hums)
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Now, eight bars.
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And only here, so if he wants a ritard, he writes it.
So why does he write here, "Ritard," and not there?
See?
It's very good if you keep the momentum, keep it going,
and think in very large paragraphs, yeah?
All right, I would build this up from the lower voices.
(hums) Lower strings, so not the first violas. (hums)
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It's violas.
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Now, second violas.
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And now the first violas. (hums)
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Yeah?
So we have to orchestrate.
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Legatissimo.
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Breathe. (hums)
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It is tonic dominant. (hums)
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It sounds too normal, how you play this.
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It's the wrong fingering.
Don't take this thumb on the black key. (hums)
Yeah? (hums)
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That's right.
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Timpani. (hums)
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It should be very spooky, threatening, yes?
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Yes.
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Hang on.
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras hums]
Yeah, yeah.
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Hang on. Something is not ringing. (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ Andras humming
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I don't hear the grace note.
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Yeah.
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Hit it.
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But.
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More dominant than tonic. (hums)
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That's right.
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You okay?
Very good, now play this slowly.
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Yeah, I don't hear the harmonies.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
It's better, but (hums).
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Yeah?
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming and playing piano]
Yeah?
You have to follow the bass.
HAN: Sorry.
SCHIFF: Mm-hm.
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Good!
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Pianissimo, shh.
It's much too loud, much too loud, even in New York.
(audience laughs)
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Very good.
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But even in this, now it's a slower temp. (hums)
The syncopation. (hums)
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(hums) Out of breath.
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(hums) Very good.
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No, this is too mechanical. (hums)
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Very good.
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And now, you have to change the attitude.
Go crazy here. (hums)
You know?
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All right, here, yeah, but here,
when I say go crazy, but don't go crazy.
(audience laughs)
It's fine.
Now, the expression is good, but don't lose control.
For example, I don't hear (hums).
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Those voices, yeah?
There is just a lot of noise.
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The phrasing is independent. (hums)
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BAM BAM. The timpanist goes in. (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming and playing piano]
Yeah?
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This, I would take it, left, five, two and five, one.
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Yeah?
That's right.
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And here, it's like...
When it's a very good movie director makes a cut. (hums)
Back to the beginning, so don't connect here, all right?
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You are still connecting too much. (hums)
It's subito piano, yes?
And before, we were forte fortissimo, so acoustically,
we need a tiny, little break, a scissor. (hums)
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(speaks in foreign language) What does it mean?
HAN: I don't know.
SCHIFF: You don't know and you play this piece? (clicks tongue)
But you play it very well.
This part you didn't play well
because you don't know what is (speaks in foreign language).
(audience laughs)
It means in a manner of speaking way.
Why is this? (speaks in foreign language)
Italian, (speaks in foreign language) to speak.
It's not singing but speaking, declamation.
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Now, I am telling you, yes?
Speak, yeah?
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Okay, now just play the left hand alone,
please, just speaking.
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So for (speaks in foreign language),
you have to articulate the small notes. (hums)
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Yes?
Just that.
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(hums) Not legato, not legato. (hums)
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And. (hums)
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Very good.
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Now! (hums)
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And so, the other hand is anticipating the harmony. (hums)
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Always the right hand is half a step ahead of the left hand.
Just play it slowly and listen to the harmonies, yeah?
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(hums) Very good.
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Very good.
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Okay, and this modulation, nobody would expect this.
It's very daring. (hums)
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Yes? (hums)
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Okay, now put it together and don't think too much.
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Very good.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
But. (hums)
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You have to smuggle it in, yeah?
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Where is the harmony?
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Like bells, yeah?
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Very good.
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Very good, now, waves. (hums)
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Okay, but this is the climax. (hums)
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Whatever you have, and no rubato there. (hums)
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Okay, but let's build this up again. (hums)
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There's a wrong note there.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
This is a...
No, that's right.
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How can this be more orchestral?
Just slowly. (hums)
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It's very difficult on the modern piano
when you play too much bass.
I love a lot of bass, but the bass strings
are very thick on the modern piano.
Be careful not to cover the middle and the top.
Balance it.
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It's not enough to hold the pedal
and Holy Mary or what, you know? (hums)
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Hold your hand on the...
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Yeah?
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Listen.
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Very good.
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(hums) Wait, shh, agitado. (hums)
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No. (hums)
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Yeah, (hums) yes!
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And!
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(groans) Look what you are doing with your foot.
I mean, really, kicking the pedal.
Stay on it, yeah?
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Please, sorry. (hums)
Pedal in the middle, (hums) pedal, (hums) pedal.
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You see?
That's a different story, yeah?
So, one more time. (hums)
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It's a wild humor, yes?
(speaks in foreign language) He writes this sometimes.
He's a crazy guy, wonderful, crazy man, yeah?
Please.
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Don't get tired. (hums)
Now, long and tonal. (hums)
Different color. (hums)
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Shh, yet another.
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Just wait one moment.
You've put in too many accents here. (hums)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Yeah?
Not every other accent.
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No, this accent I don't like. (hums)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Not too slow. (hums)
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Okay, look.
Don't make life more complicated than it is.
It's hard enough.
When he writes the ritard, then start getting slower,
but you are making so much here.
I am a little bit confused as a listener, yeah?
So don't confuse us. (hums)
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Now, ritard. (hums)
Dark. (hums)
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Your lower voice. (hums)
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Now, middle voice. (hums)
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And now the upper voice. (hums)
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SCHIFF: Is your name Anna?
HAN: Yeah.
SCHIFF: Do you know what this piece has to do with your name?
HAN: Uh-uh.
SCHIFF: I can tell you some news.
(audience laughs)
This song. (hums)
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This is an early song by Schumann called An Anna,
for Anna, so he wrote a song for you.
(audience laughs)
Isn't it nice?
No, really.
And because of that, before we stop,
please play the beginning of the sonata.
HAN: This part or the very--
No, the very beginning.
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Now comes your song.
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All right, very good, so just the (hums).
Says it's very much a cello figuration, no? (hums)
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Just play it with a string sonority.
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And this sonority. (hums)
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One finger is not enough.
(upbeat piano music)
I try to use sometimes three, just (hums).
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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Yeah, good.
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You have to use the natural, I hate to talk
about piano playing, but occasionally you have to.
Because to achieve this sonority, the fingers can't do it.
It's a question of the weight of the body, yes?
And the breathing, so never force it.
Think of a fullness of sound, yes?
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That's right. (hums)
That's very good.
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Excellent.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Very good, that's a much better sound.
You are confusing the voice-leading. (hums)
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I don't hear really that the upper voice stays.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
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(Andras claps)
Less full. (hums)
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Now, the violins. (hums)
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Yes, now the voice-leading gets more complex here.
(hums) They look at those accent. (hums)
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You know?
So let's just do from the top of the page.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Shh. (speaks in foreign language)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
Oh, yeah, sorry.
SCHIFF: Do you like this?
HAN: No. (chuckles)
SCHIFF: No, nor do I. (chuckles)
I love very much how you play,
but it gets very, again, I use the word sentimental.
Because the rubato is composed.
You have triplets against doublets.
So even if you do very simple, it will sound rubato.
But if you're making me seasick here,
it's not necessary. (hums)
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The simpler, the better.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
Yes.
♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
Okay, very good. (hums)
♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
Okay, also, this Clara motif. (hums)
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It's the Ninth Beethoven.
It's always in the background, yes?
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(hums) Very good.
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Yeah, again. (hums)
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The interval. (hums)
Legatissimo, no?
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Very good.
♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
Roll back, shh.
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♫ ♫ ♫ [Andras humming]
♫ ♫ ♫ [Piano Sonata No. 1 in F-sharp minor by Robert Schumann]
Okay, so the bass is pianissimo, yes?
But the top stays fortissimo.
I think the pianissimo refers only to the bass, yes?
So just play (hums), just the last three bars, please.
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Yes, and that only relieves the,
so please believe Schumann here,
that this is absolutely with no change of pedal here.
- Okay.
- It has to sound wild.
And then just release the pedal on this note.
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What you to have to work on this is the shape
and the form of the whole piece.
And also, when you change character,
it has to be a shocking change, absolutely no preparation.
Like this one. (hums)
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And so you have to change
your whole attitude there, immediately. (hums)
Yeah?
So those moments, and legato, legato, legato, yeah?
It's very hard to achieve a perfect legato
like singers do, but that should be our goal, yeah?
Excellent, thank you very much.
(audience applauding)
Thank you.