We're talking Ezra Miller's mounting legal troubles and what it means for their future as The Flash and vince McMahon's wrestling woes is Vinnie Mac down for the count plus hide the kids hero Gaz um, has arrived.

我們正在談論埃茲拉-米勒不斷增加的法律麻煩，以及這對他們作為閃電俠的未來意味著什麼，文斯-麥克馬洪的摔跤困境是文尼-麥克倒下了，加上隱藏孩子的英雄加茲嗯，已經到來。

It's all coming up in your Hollywood headlines.

這一切都出現在你們的好萊塢頭條新聞中。

No.

沒有。

And here to help me break it all down is my man tom one of the voices over here at watch mojo.

在這裡幫助我分解這一切的是我的男人湯姆，他是watch mojo的代言人之一。

Hey tom how's it going?

嘿，湯姆，你怎麼樣了？

Good matt.

好的床墊。

How are you?

你好嗎？

I'm glad to be back.

我很高興能回來。

Well, I'm so glad to have you back because we've got a lot to talk about.

好吧，我很高興你能回來，因為我們有很多要談的。

We're gonna kick start things now with Ezra Miller.

我們現在要用埃茲拉-米勒來啟動事情。

This is a name that has been in the headlines quite a bit as of late.

這是一個近來在頭條新聞中出現得相當多的名字。

You remember that they, we're in some trouble out there in Hawaii, there were some assault charges that were laid.

你記得他們，我們在夏威夷遇到了一些麻煩，有一些攻擊性的指控。

Well Miller's issues have now extended past Hawaii and have reached massachusetts North Dakota and there including accusations of violence, psychological intimidation, underage grooming and other forms of misconduct.

好在米勒的問題現在已經超過了夏威夷，並達到了馬薩諸塞州北達科他州和那裡，包括對暴力、心理恐嚇、未成年誘騙和其他形式的不當行為的指控。

It's all very uncomfortable.

這一切都讓人很不舒服。

This of course posing a huge problem for the folks over there at Warner brothers because Ezra Miller is their star of The Flash.

這當然給華納兄弟那邊的人帶來了巨大的問題，因為埃茲拉-米勒是他們的《閃電俠》明星。

That's right.

這就對了。

The flash movie set to hit the big screens.

快閃電影將登陸大屏幕。

Not until next year sources now saying that Warner Brothers wants to wash their hands of Ezra no matter what comes next.

直到明年才有消息來源說，華納兄弟公司想洗白他們的手，不管接下來會發生什麼。

But I mean their back is against the wall tom what's Warner brothers to do.

但我的意思是，他們背靠著牆，華納兄弟該怎麼做。

You know, I, I can't really speak to what they can do for the movie that's coming out because obviously that's already filmed and everything like that.

你知道，我，我真的不能說他們能為即將上映的電影做什麼，因為顯然那已經拍完了，還有類似的一切。

Um what I will say though is and they should never have been in this situation to begin with because they had a perfectly amazing flash in Grant Gustin in the tv show and The Flash.

嗯，我要說的是，他們一開始就不應該處於這種狀況，因為他們在電視秀和《閃電俠》中的格蘭特-古斯丁有一個完美的驚人的閃電。

This is very near and dear to my heart because The Flash is my favorite superhero of all time.

這對我來說是非常近的，因為閃電俠是我最喜歡的超級英雄。

You know if I could have one superpower it would be super speed.

你知道，如果我可以擁有一種超能力，那就是超速。

Um Yeah you know and he proved himself as a as a phenomenal flash and this is where I think D.

嗯，是的，你知道，他證明了自己是一個驚人的閃光點，這就是我認為D。

C.

C.

Kind of falls short, nothing is really connected.

有點不足，沒有什麼真正的聯繫。

Um You know and you had D.

嗯，你知道，你有D。

C.

C.

Was in a position where they arguably kind of made superhero tv shows, you know a thing, you know.

是在一個位置，他們可以說是一種使超級英雄的電視節目，你知道一件事，你知道。

Yeah you have your agents of Shield and all that good stuff.

是的，你有你的盾牌特工和所有這些好東西。

Um You know of course you always had your animated, you know your your cartoons and everything but I'm talking about live action where people were actually really invested in the superheroes themselves, you know with the arrow verse that kind of arguably it started at all and I think they should have kept those actors and brought them into the movies because then you're gonna have fans of the movies and you're gonna have fans of tv shows coming together and you're gonna cross mediums so I don't know why they ever didn't do this in the first place and that's something that marvel does well it makes you care about the characters.

當然，你總是有你的動畫，你知道你的卡通和一切，但我說的是真人表演，人們實際上真的投入到超級英雄本身。我認為他們應該保留這些演員並把他們帶入電影，因為這樣你就會有電影的粉絲和電視劇的粉絲走到一起，你就會跨越媒介，所以我不知道為什麼他們一開始沒有這樣做，這也是奇蹟做得好的地方，它讓你關心這些人物。

Um so I think that Ezra Miller, wherever he is, you know, obviously I I hope he's safe and everything like that and I hope that he gets the help that he needs and stuff.

嗯，所以我認為埃茲拉-米勒，無論他在哪裡，你知道，顯然我我希望他是安全的和類似的一切，我希望他得到他需要的幫助和東西。

But Warner brothers, I think this is the perfect opportunity for them to do what they should have done in the first place.

但華納兄弟，我想這是他們做他們當初應該做的事情的最佳機會。

Uh Yeah, it is going to be a bit of a shame because as an actor, I did really enjoy Ezra Miller.

是的，這將是一個有點遺憾的事情，因為作為一個演員，我確實非常喜歡埃茲拉-米勒。

I thought they took some really great chances, especially as The Flash, as we always had me cracking up the mannerisms.

我認為他們抓住了一些非常好的機會，特別是作為閃電俠，我們的舉止總是讓我開懷大笑。

The things that they said, um I thought were pretty were pretty great in those films.

他們說的那些東西，嗯，我覺得很不錯，在那些電影裡是很不錯的。

So I was actually looking forward to The Flash.

所以我實際上很期待《閃電俠》。

It will be weird because Warner brothers, they have a year to kind of sort through all this.

這將是很奇怪的，因為華納兄弟，他們有一年的時間來梳理這一切。

But it would be weird if they were to promote the film without Ezra Miller at the forefront.

但如果他們在宣傳這部電影時沒有埃茲拉-米勒在前，那就太奇怪了。

So I don't I don't know how that could happen for those that are kind of saying, well what's the big deal?

所以我不知道，對於那些正在說，有什麼大不了的事情的人來說，這怎麼可能發生呢？

Well, here's the big deal.

嗯，這裡有一個大問題。

They d c put $200 million in the budget of the Flash, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton is returning for this movie and Ben Affleck is said to be back as batman, it's all dealing with that multiverse as we talked about.

他們在《閃電俠》的預算中投入了2億美元，邁克爾-基頓，邁克爾-基頓將在這部電影中迴歸，據說本-阿弗萊克將回歸扮演蝙蝠俠，這都是在處理我們談到的那個多元宇宙。

So it's a big, big deal.

所以這是一個很大很大的問題。

So it will be interesting in Ezra Miller.

所以在埃茲拉-米勒身上會很有意思。

Um Yeah, just every time I see a headline I always, I don't know, it just makes me uneasy because you never know what's gonna come out because the stuff that's happened and they're saying is it's very uncomfortable.

嗯 是的，只是每次我看到頭條新聞時，我總是，我不知道，它只是讓我感到不安，因為你永遠不知道會出現什麼，因為所發生的事情和他們所說的是非常不舒服的。

Yeah, it's it's a lot of intense stuff that he's you know allegedly that he allegedly did and it's I mean I don't know, I mean it's gonna be weird I think that it's going to I think they're going to find him before then the movie comes out before like you really start promoting it and stuff.

是的，它是它是很多激烈的東西，他是你知道據說他據說做了，這是我的意思是我不知道，我的意思是這將是奇怪的，我認為這將是我認為他們要找到他之前，然後電影出來之前，像你真的開始推廣它和東西。

But yeah, I don't think they're gonna allow him to be the face of it.

但是，是的，我不認為他們會允許他成為它的代言人。

Um Not not with all of these allegations going around there's way too much.

呃......不是，所有這些指控都在進行，太多了。

Absolutely.

絕對的。

All right.

好的。

Speaking speaking of allegations, let's let's switch now to a different a different world, this is the world of professional wrestling now.

說到指控，讓我們讓我們現在切換到一個不同的世界，這是職業摔跤的世界了。

I'm actually I'm actually a fan of big big wrestling fan.

我其實是我其實是一個大的大的摔跤迷的粉絲。

So this is mind blowing news that's come out over the past couple of weeks here and that has to do with W.

是以，這是過去幾周在這裡傳出的令人震驚的消息，這與W有關係。

W.

W.

E.

E.

S.

S.

Chairman.

主席。

Well I guess we should say now Ex Ceo Vince McMahon because he's actually stepped down.

我想我們現在應該說前首席執行官文斯-麥克馬洪，因為他實際上已經下臺了。

He stepped down under accusations that he's paid hush money, $3 million to an ex employee.

他是在被指控向一名前僱員支付了300萬美元封口費的情況下下臺的。

So this is all the allegations right.

所以這就是所有的指控吧。

So there's an investigation that's going on Vince has stepped down as I said, which is a big deal because wrestling fans like myself thought, well, he's gonna have to die before Vince li Yeah, I mean, he was the face of the of that organization for a long.

是以，正如我所說，文斯已經下臺了，這是件大事，因為像我這樣的摔跤迷認為，他必須在文斯死之前死去。

I mean, you know, w w knew Vince McMahon.

我的意思是，你知道，我們認識文斯-麥克馬洪。

I mean that, you know, they were synonymous, oh, and behind the scenes, he was the man that did all the, all the called the puppet master is what I call him.

我的意思是，你知道，他們是同義詞，哦，在幕後，他是做所有的人，所有被稱為木偶大師的人是我對他的稱呼。

But now it's his daughter, Stephanie McMahon has stepped in and here's the, here's what's really weird is Vince's showed up on Smackdown.

但現在是他的女兒，斯蒂芬妮-麥克馬洪出面了，這裡的，這裡真正奇怪的是文斯在Smackdown出現了。

Uh, everyone thought, oh, is he gonna address all this?

呃，每個人都認為，哦，他要解決這些問題嗎？

No, he just kind of made a little brief statement and then he showed up on monday night raw on camera and didn't really talk about, he talked about john cena's returning.

不，他只是做了一點簡短的聲明，然後他出現在星期一晚上的生的鏡頭前，並沒有真正談論，他談到了約翰-塞納的迴歸。

I feel like this is Vince giving the middle finger saying, hey, I'm not going anywhere.

我覺得這是文斯在豎中指說，嘿，我不會去任何地方。

It's staying in the family, Stephanie is in charge now and this will all blow over and Vince is gonna stick around.

這是在家庭中，斯蒂芬妮現在是負責人，這一切都會過去，文斯會堅持下去。

This is big news for wrestling fans.

這對摔跤迷來說是個大新聞。

It is, it is, you know, I mean, I think they said that he's still going to maintain kind of creative control behind the scenes of W.

是的，是的，你知道，我的意思是，我想他們說他仍然要保持對W的幕後創意控制。

W.

W.

E.

E.

Um, yeah, I, I'm an agreement that I think that, you know, definitely needs to be investigated.

嗯，是的，我，我是同意的，我認為，你知道，絕對需要進行調查。

And and if it's proven true, then he obviously should be, you know punished to the fullest, you know, the full extent of the law and you know he's got to pay the price so to speak for for committing these crimes and stuff.

如果這被證明是真的，那麼他顯然應該，你知道，受到最充分的懲罰，你知道，法律的最大程度，你知道他必須為犯下這些罪行和東西付出代價。

But uh I just, you know, I don't I don't I think I think it is probably going to blow over eventually.

但是，呃，我只是，你知道，我不，我不，我認為我認為它可能最終會被淘汰。

I don't know.

我不知道。

Especially nowadays where you know, um social media is just you know rampant and and nothing ever goes away.

特別是現在，你知道，嗯，社交媒體只是你知道的猖獗，而且沒有什麼會消失。

I don't know that he will ever maintain that kind of public image like he used to.

我不知道他還能不能像以前那樣保持那種公眾形象。

But I don't see him stepping away from the organization fully should he though?

但我不認為他應該完全離開這個組織，儘管如此？

Because the man is in his seventies, mid seventies now or early seventies.

因為這個人已經七十多歲了，現在是七十多歲或七十多歲。

Um Some people behind the scenes have said that maybe Vince is out of touch.

呃......有些人在幕後說，也許文斯已經失去了聯繫。

Of course the people that were let go from the company may be small grudge.

當然，被公司放走的人可能會有小怨氣。

But I mean listen, that's uh to hand it off to somebody else.

但我的意思是，聽著，那是呃，把它交給別人。

You know, Triple H is, he's taken on a roll back stage.

你知道，Triple H是，他被帶到了舞臺後面。

I mean he would step back from Nxt team, but this may be an opportunity for him to come in with with Stephanie.

我的意思是他會從Nxt團隊中退下來，但這可能是一個機會，讓他和斯蒂芬妮一起進來。

I don't know.

我不知道。

I think personally for me, um I think maybe Vince could take a bow.

我認為就我個人而言，嗯，我認為也許文斯可以鞠躬。

Yeah.

是的。

I mean I think for nothing else except the fact, okay, you know, he he built this empire and now it's time to, you know it's time for him to retire.

我的意思是，我認為除了這個事實，好吧，你知道，他他建立了這個帝國，現在是時候，你知道是時候讓他退休。

He's been at it for a long time.

他已經幹了很長時間了。

He's not getting any younger.

他已經不再年輕了。

Like the new the new generation of leaders of the W.

像W國的新一代領導人一樣。

W.

W.

E.

E.

Step in and see what they can do with it.

踏進去，看看他們能做什麼。

I think it comes down to the events.

我認為這要歸結於事件。

He doesn't I don't think the man knows what else to do.

他不 我認為這個人不知道還能做什麼。

Apparently he he sleeps very very little.

顯然，他他睡得非常非常少。

You can actually see it when you see pictures of him, his eyes red because he's that's his life W.

當你看到他的照片時，你實際上可以看到它，他的眼睛是紅色的，因為他那是他的生命W。

W.

W.

E.

E.

Of course he apparently has some extracurricular activities.

當然，他顯然有一些課外活動。

We won't get into too much of that.

我們不會討論太多這方面的問題。

Will let the investigation.

將讓調查。

Okay.

好的。

Last thing for us here on the Hollywood headlines.

我們在好萊塢頭條上的最後一件事。

I gotta I gotta add it in because I don't know if you watch the show The Boys.

我得我得把它加進去，因為我不知道你是否看《男孩》這個節目。

Yeah.

是的。

Yeah Hero Gaz.

是的，Hero Gaz。

Um Now at the time of this recording I don't think you would have seen it.

嗯 現在在這個錄音的時候，我不認為你會看到它。

I actually got a sneak peek.

我實際上得到了一個偷看的機會。

I've seen really?

我已經看到了真的？

I've seen Hero Gaz.

我見過Hero Gaz。

Um Do you know what, I don't even know what this is.

嗯 你知道嗎，我甚至不知道這是什麼。

You know I'm gonna be honest with you.

你知道我將對你說實話。

I don't because I'm not up on the comics of the Boys.

我不知道，因為我不瞭解男孩們的漫畫。

I do love the show but you know I guess you can kind of give me the uh the safer works synopsis so to speak.

我確實喜歡這個節目，但你知道，我想你可以給我一個呃，更安全的作品概要，可以這麼說。

Let me fill you in.

讓我來告訴你。

So yes it does go back to the comic because there is there's this infamous comic issue called the Hero Gaz.

是以，是的，它確實回到了漫畫，因為有這樣一個臭名昭著的漫畫問題，叫做《英雄公報》。

Um And what it is is basically where heroes go to have an orgy let's just call it an orgy fun.

嗯，它基本上是英雄們去狂歡的地方，我們就叫它狂歡樂。

Uh but they go there in the comic.

呃，但他們在漫畫中去了那裡。

Like they really go there and so there was all kinds of When the show became a hit on the Amazon on prime video, they were like, well are they actually gonna do here orgasm?

他們真的去了那裡，所以有各種 當這個節目在亞馬遜的黃金視頻上成為熱門時，他們就像，嗯，他們真的要在這裡做高潮？

And all the cast kind of chimed in and we're really scared about the possibility they did it for this season.

所有的演員都有意見，我們真的很害怕他們為這一季做的可能性。

Season three.

第三季。

So it's the episode that's coming out and and I read that comic and I was like, well there's no way, but if you know the boys, you know that they will go there and tom they go there, are you a fan of that show by the way?

所以這一集要出來了，我看了那本漫畫，我想，好吧，沒有辦法，但如果你瞭解這些男孩，你知道他們會去那裡，湯姆他們去那裡，順便問一下，你是那個節目的粉絲嗎？

Yeah, I do like the boys a lot.

是的，我確實非常喜歡這些男孩。

I do, I do.

我願意，我願意。

My wife and I are a little bit behind, but when, when it first came out, I mean we were binging it and then the second season we loved it and um it's definitely on our list to catch up on.

我的妻子和我有點落後，但當它第一次出來時，我的意思是我們正在播放它，然後第二季我們喜歡它，嗯，它肯定在我們的清單上，要趕上。

Um But yeah, it's it's it's a very good show and I've always liked that, you know, I I don't want to compare it to Game of Thrones, but it doesn't shy away like Game of Thrones from like the intense subject matter and you know, the violence and the and everything like that.

但是，是的，它是一個非常好的節目，我一直喜歡，你知道，我我不想把它和《權力的遊戲》相提並論，但是它不像《權力的遊戲》那樣迴避激烈的主題，你知道，暴力和諸如此類的事情。

I think it's I think it's a very good show.

我認為這是我認為這是一個非常好的節目。

No, definitely not for kids.

不，絕對不是為了孩子。

It's not.

不是的。

It's not, you know, your dc extended universe for kids type thing, it's a different type of superhero show.

它不是，你知道，你的dc擴展宇宙的兒童類型的東西，它是一個不同類型的超級英雄節目。

No, I don't think marvel or DC will be doing a hero.

不，我不認為奇蹟或DC會做一個英雄。

Probably not.

可能不會。

No not not this year at least not not this phase but yeah, no it's definitely worth watching.

不，不是今年，至少不是這個階段，但是是的，不，它絕對值得看。

Just you know, prepare yourselves.

只是你知道，準備好自己。

That's all I'm gonna say.

這就是我想說的。

You'll see it unfold and maybe literally uh on screen Hero Guys, I'm with the boys, hey tom this has been so much fun.

你會看到它的展開，也許從字面上看，呃，螢幕上的英雄們，我和孩子們在一起，嘿，湯姆，這真是太有趣了。

Thank you so much for helping me break all this down.

非常感謝你幫助我分解這一切。

Yeah man, thanks for having me again, I love being here.

是的，夥計，謝謝你再次邀請我，我喜歡在這裡。

Mhm.

嗯。

Mhm.

嗯。