Because usually when I think of preachers, I think of like super, pretty, super like perfect.

因為通常當我想到傳教士的時候，我想到的是像超級、漂亮、超級像完美的。

I have lots of relationships through my congregation, through my work with women and men, young people who were in the system.

我通過我的會眾，通過我與婦女和男子的工作，與那些在系統中的年輕人，有很多關係。

And so I'm gonna ask you a question, Make an assumption about me.

所以我要問你一個問題，對我做一個假設。

I would say is a female pastor, You would probably be very judgy.

我想說的是，如果是一位女牧師，你可能會很有判斷力。

Whoa.

哇哦。

Really?

真的嗎？

I think sometimes women in the church think we have to be a certain kind of pretty good, something I'm not gonna wear makeup, I'm gonna act like I've never had sex.

我認為有時教會中的女性認為我們必須成為某種漂亮的人，一些我不會化妝的東西，我要表現得像我從來沒有做過愛。

I'm gonna, you know, I have to stuff down my woman stuff.

我要，你知道，我必須塞下我的女人的東西。

So people take me seriously.

所以人們對我很認真。

What's your judgment about me that you've been hurt by people like me?

你對我的判斷是什麼，你曾被我這樣的人傷害過？

That's a very accurate assumption.

這是一個非常準確的假設。

Yeah.

是的。

Actually went viral for it.

實際上，它已經成為病毒式傳播。

When I came out with my story, the church shown me literally the church, I was disrespected.

當我說出我的故事時，教會給我看的簡直就是教會，我被不尊重了。

I was just mailed from here to next week.

我只是被從這裡郵寄到下週。

It was like I went in there really just to meet someone and walked out next thing, you know, empowering a group full of women and basically shutting down the women's panel at the profit at college.

這就像我去那裡真的只是為了見一個人，然後走出來，你知道，賦予一個充滿女性的群體權力，基本上關閉了大學裡的女性小組的利潤。

It was pretty cool.

這是很不錯的。

What do you know about my current profession?

你對我目前的職業瞭解多少？

What do you know about us?

你對我們瞭解多少？

I'm gonna be embarrassed right here?

我在這裡會感到尷尬嗎？

Say your daughter comes up to you?

說你的女兒來找你？

It's like mom, I'm a dominatrix.

這就像媽媽，我是一個支配者。

What would you think she's doing?

你會認為她在做什麼？

Oh, I think she has a closet full of beautiful tools and toys.

哦，我想她有一個滿是漂亮工具和玩具的衣櫃。

Uh, some of which I might enjoy my own self, but like I'm going red.

呃，有些是我自己可能喜歡的，但就像我要紅了一樣。

I'm going spandex.

我要去氨綸。

I'm going pointy breast gear should be like, hey bob, pop, take your pants off, get on that bed.

我去尖銳的乳房裝備應該像，嘿，鮑勃，流行，把你的褲子脫掉，上那個床。

Damn it.

該死的。

Give him a little but touch.

給他一點，但觸摸。

There's no sex involved in anything that I do.

我做的任何事情都不涉及性。

VDs M is really all about fetish.

VDs M實際上都是關於戀物癖。

I've had clients who have paid me to chew bubble gum for a couple of hours.

我曾有客戶付錢讓我嚼幾個小時的泡泡糖。

I have clients who have paid me to brush their teeth.

我有客戶付錢給我，讓我給他們刷牙。

It could be anything from, you have a fetish of.

它可以是任何東西，從，你有一個癖好的。

You want to give me all your money?

你想把你的錢都給我嗎？

Would you be giving that money back to them in any kind of transaction girl?

你會在任何形式的交易女孩中把這些錢還給他們嗎？

No, I don't think so.

不，我不這麼認為。

I worked for my dollars.

我為我的美元而工作。

One thing I've learned about pastors is that pastors are like they do everything they go from being the counselor, the teacher, the psychologist.

我對牧師的一個認識是，牧師就像他們所做的一切，他們從輔導員、教師、心理學家。

Do we have finishes.

我們是否有完成度。

Yes.

是的。

Oh yes.

哦，是的。

I learned that the closer you are to God, the more sexual you are.

我瞭解到，你離上帝越近，你的性能力就越強。

I think that's right.

我想這是對的。

Well it was actually a pastor that got me into B.

實際上是一位牧師讓我進入了B組。

D.

D.

S.

S.

M.

M.

O.

O.

Is that right?

是這樣嗎？

Do you wanna tell that story?

你想講這個故事嗎？

Well, I'll just say he was just a very very kinky little preacher man.

好吧，我就說他只是一個非常非常淫蕩的小傳教士。

We'll just put it like that.

我們就這樣說吧。

So yeah.

所以，是的。

Do you think religion causes more conflict than it solves.

你是否認為宗教造成的衝突比它解決的問題更多。

I do.

我願意。

I mean I don't think it has to.

我的意思是我不認為它必須如此。

So I'm not saying all religion, but I'm saying religion historically has caused more conflict than it solved.

所以我不是說所有的宗教，但我是說宗教在歷史上造成的衝突比它解決的問題更多。

I don't think religion by itself Andrea is a weapon, but I think people weaponize religion and that's tragic.

我不認為宗教本身是一種武器，但我認為人們把宗教變成了武器，這很可悲。

Religion literally means to bind together.

宗教的字面意思是結合在一起。

And I gotta say I walked away from church too.

我得說我也離開了教堂。

I had a car accident when I was 22 and I almost died and Andrea, I was convinced, I was convinced that the car accident was God's punishment for you not going to church.

我22歲的時候發生了一場車禍，我差點死了，安德里亞，我確信，我確信那場車禍是上帝對你不去教堂的懲罰。

No, for me having sex with my fiance, two weeks before I got married.

不，對於我和我的未婚夫發生性關係，在我結婚前兩個星期。

Just that face that you made, that's exactly where I was years of dont have sex, dont have sex, dont have sex to have sex.

只是你做的那個表情，這正是我多年來不做愛、不做愛、不做愛來做愛的地方。

And I just thought, oh wow, I really failed God right there.

我就想，哦，哇，我在那裡真的讓上帝失望了。

And that's why this car is flipping over in the Q E W and I'm almost dying now.

這就是為什麼這輛車在Q E W中翻轉，我現在幾乎要死了。

That's just some Bs right there.

這只是一些胡說八道。

Theology.

神學。

And if that kind of theology kills and I don't do that kind of theology, what is a dream?

如果那種神學會殺人，而我不做那種神學，那麼夢想是什麼？

You've let go of, It might cry, I come from the system.

你已經放手了，它可能會哭，我來自系統。

Um, growing up in foster care, I couldn't, you know, go to college and like it sucks.

嗯，在寄養家庭長大，我不能，你知道，去上大學，就像它很糟糕。

You know, they're like, I wanted to be a lawyer, couldn't because I didn't have the resources.

你知道，他們就像，我想成為一名律師，不能，因為我沒有資源。

I didn't have the things that most kids do and that kids take for granted and then to be a dominatrix who was a foster kid.

我沒有大多數孩子所擁有的東西，孩子們認為這是理所當然的，然後成為一個寄養兒童的支配者。

People already look at me like she was a foster kid.

人們已經把我看成是一個寄養兒童。

So obviously she was troublesome, you know, there's a stigma around us as well.

所以很明顯，她很麻煩，你知道，我們周圍也有一個汙名。

And then to get into B.

然後要進入B。

D.

D.

S.

S.

M.

M.

There's just this huge stigma.

只是有這種巨大的恥辱感。

But I love to break it every time.

但我每次都喜歡打破它。

So I am so moved by your bad accessory to get the life you wanted.

所以我很感動，你為了得到你想要的生活而使用的不良配件。

Could you ever see yourself doing my profession?

你能看到自己從事我的職業嗎？

Absolutely.

絕對的。

Why not?

為什麼不呢？

Why not?

為什麼不呢？

Absolutely not.

絕對不是。

Absolutely not.

絕對不是。

No.

沒有。

The board would fire me day one because I'd like to disrupt things that do not sit well with me.

董事會會在第一天就解僱我，因為我想打亂那些讓我不爽的事情。

So they would Day one.

所以他們會日一。

They'd be like Ma'am it was nice but you gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta go, You disrupted the church.

他們會說，女士，這很好，但你得離開，你得離開，你得離開，你擾亂了教堂。

We would all be a room full of sinners.

我們都會成為一屋子的罪人。

It would be the worst church ever.

這將是有史以來最糟糕的教會。

Or it could be the best church ever.

或者它可能是有史以來最好的教堂。

I think if I wasn't at my church, I wouldn't be a pastor.

我想如果我不在我的教會，我就不會成為一個牧師。

No, no.

不，不。

Could you do my job?

你能做我的工作嗎？

I think maybe so because I think you honest.

我想也許是這樣，因為我覺得你很誠實。

I think you make a great, I'm just trying to tell us this to the truth.

我認為你做得很好，我只是想告訴我們這是個事實。

A good one.

一個好的。

Is it good?

它好嗎？

This is my favorite question to ask people.

這是我最喜歡問別人的問題。

Okay, do you have any fetishes?

好吧，你有什麼癖好嗎？

Oh don't give us a politically correct answer.

哦，不要給我們一個政治上正確的答案。

We want to dig deep.

我們想深入挖掘。

I have a fetish for orgasm until you just can't do it again.

我有一個癖好，就是喜歡高潮，直到你無法再做為止。

Yeah.

是的。

What about you?

你呢？

I have a fetish for cologne, a foot fetish in a sense, But I have a solo male fetish.

我有古龍水的癖好，從某種意義上說是戀足癖，但我有一個單獨的男性癖好。

We'll let minds wonder where that goes.

我們將讓人們想一想，這到底是怎麼回事。

I know some people who have finishes for my breasts, I'll say that they're, they're cute.

我知道有些人對我的乳房進行了修飾，我會說它們是，它們很可愛。

Was your initial assumption about me correct?

你最初對我的假設是否正確？

Yeah, yeah.

是的，是的。

But I walked by your room and I thought I saw some light that was gonna come popping out of this conversation and it did.

但我走過你的房間，我想我看到了一些光，會從這次談話中跳出來，而它確實是。

So I would say, yeah, okay, yeah, I would say no, I would say no.

所以我會說，是的，好的，是的，我會說不，我會說不。

I was like, I just got the robe on billing sister out, coming in, was about to come, got me with the ruler.

我當時想，我剛把長袍穿上，把姐姐叫出來，進來的時候，正要來，就用尺子把我打了。

She's gonna bend me over and spank me.

她要讓我彎腰，打我的屁股。

No, but I would say no, actually, no.

不，但我想說不，實際上，不。

I actually did think, you know, because my experience with women in the church have not always been good, but I'm glad that we did this because now I can say I was wrong so much prettier when I was a young person, I was always swirling this color palette for me down here.

實際上我確實認為，你知道，因為我在教會中與女性相處的經驗並不總是好的，但我很高興我們這樣做，因為現在我可以說我錯了，當我是一個年輕人的時候，我總是在下面為我旋轉這個調色板，所以我是更漂亮。

It was like, you know, when I came in it was like on the scarlet letter.

這就像，你知道，當我進來的時候，就像上了紅字。

A but then I felt more at home and think, oh, that's very good in my experience.

A但後來我覺得更有家的感覺，覺得，哦，這在我的經驗中是非常好的。

If you listen to someone's story, You are less than 6° of separation from something where you are very much alike.

如果你聽了某人的故事，你與你非常相似的東西的分離度不到6°。