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  • Hey Eva come on over here want me  to brush you? Hey sweet kitty…. 

  • This is CrowdScience from the BBC World Service,  

  • the show that takes your science questions  for a prowl and hunts down the answers

  • I’m Melanie Brown, and this is Eva, the  feline muse behind this week’s question

  • Did you wanna play? Get ready! Oh! If you  didn’t run into me you could maybe catch it

  • Oops. Oh nearly got it

  • Eva loves to play, and has the ultimate  pampered life within the 4 walls of her  

  • apartment in Kobe Japan. Oh, where did it go

  • But is it maybetoo comfortable? Watching  her play one day, her devoted human owner  

  • Rachelor should that be employee? -  decided to get in touch with CrowdScience

  • I'm wondering if my former street cat could  survive out on her own again. Conveniently my  

  • cat is behind my computer. Let's  see, can we oh, there she is. Hi Eva

  • And can you tell me a bit about herWhy, why did you ask that question

  • RASo she was born on the streets, andlady I know, rescues street kittens and  

  • finds homes for them. Eva was maybe about five  months old when the lady finally caught her.  

  • And then it was about a month later that she came  to our house. Like the first week she just hid  

  • behind the washing machine. But it didn't take  very long before she kind of warmed up to us  

  • and got comfortable living inside. What makes you doubt her ability  

  • to survive by herself? We noticed like when she plays  

  • she would sometimes like fall off of the  furniture like not use her claws to catch herself.  

  • Or when she jumps sometimes she misses where  she’s landing. And her reaction time is kind of  

  • hilariously slow. Which made my husband asked me  like if we threw her back on the streets - would  

  • she survive? And I really couldn’t answer that. But Eva is my first indoor only cat so that that  

  • also made me wonder if she kind of got  more domesticated than our cats that went  

  • outside where they could still hunt if they  wanted to or maybe defend themselves against  

  • something. You know she's totally relaxed  in here. She has she has no enemies other  

  • than you know my one year old daughter. I was really interested in this question  

  • because my cat Frida also has questionable  survival instincts. The only thing she’s gifted  

  • me was a dragonfly, and…. I think it might  have already been dead before she caught it

  • Don’t get offended Frida, you can believe  what you want, I still love you. Anyway,  

  • it’s good news for the neighbourhood wildlife  if they don’t have to worry about you.  

  • But to help answer Rachel’s question,  I went to meet a cat who really does  

  • know how to handle herself outside the home I came across this cat by sheer chance because I  

  • just was walking along here and sitting gloriously  and window looking at very smug with a cat with  

  • a collar who got completely content. So  by sheer chance we knocked on the door.

  • You basically talent spotted the cat I talent spotted the cat

  • That’s Roger Tabor, cat  biologist and behaviourist.  

  • His pioneering work tracking cats by  attaching GPS and mini cameras to them,  

  • helped our understanding of cat behaviour  inside and outside the homehow far they roam  

  • and what they get up to out of our sight. And were here to meet one of his research  

  • subjects…. Queen of the Neighbourhood…. Allow me to introduce Scrumpy. Hello, Scrumpy..  

  • Scrumpy literally just put her paws right  up on your leg in quite sort of friendly,  

  • Hello, Roger! She’s a fantastic cat.

  • Black and white, quite petite.

  • Very petite.

  • Oh, wow, looking at me with big golden  eyes. So Roger were here because of our  

  • listener Rachel's question about how well her  cat would survive if it had to fend for itself  

  • in the in the wild, and Scrumpy’s going to  help us understand cat behaviour. You've put  

  • cat cam is it yes, a cat sat, that  is a tongue twister, isn't it?  

  • You've put GPS tracker and a camera on ScrumpyAnd you've followed her on her adventures  

  • outside of the house, what have you  found out about what she's up to?  

  • Indoors she's quiet, cute. If you look at her now  she's sitting on her own Jo's lap in a contented  

  • way. When you get outside, with a normal female  cat, and particularly small female cat as she is,  

  • you would expect a small range. And the most  startling thing weve found, she goes around  

  • a much bigger range - 10 times bigger than it  should be. She goes up onto that little small  

  • shed, and then onto the fence behind. And then  the world is her oyster, she uses the tops of  

  • fences along the bits there, suddenly youre into  much more varied areas there, going down, finding  

  • chicken carcasses, pulling them out. And there  is a garden, which has got Rottweilers in it!  

  • Rottweilers pretty big dogs, Which are known to be short fused.  

  • She goes over there quite quite happily. There’s  a yew tree which shell sit under for hours. And  

  • gradually you build up how  she leads her life. fade under

  • MEL: While we were around, Scrumpy wasn’t going  to go on the prowlobviously she had to keep  

  • a watchful eye on us and live up to the cat  stereotype of doing exactly the opposite of  

  • what we wanted her to. So Roger showed us one  of her adventures recorded on her CAT CAM.

  • Be warned. Oh no. The camera  

  • angle’s incredible actually, you get a little  glimpse of the nose and her whiskers sneaking in  

  • thereRight so this looks like woodland Roger. It's a normal garden. There's a lot of trees,  

  • so she's made this as a great  place to go and sit in and relax in  

  • but it's not necessarily always just hers. So she’s quite low to the undergrowth.

  • That's quite dramatic. But  what's actually happening  

  • is not a full fight. So wait, we just saw  

  • another cat come into view then If you see how that other cat  

  • just exploded and it's a big adult male and the  claws are really out. But what you're seeing  

  • now is that big adult cat saving face, it's  the one that's going away. When actually the  

  • cat who is in residence who's won is tiny  Scrumpy. She is a fraction of his size.  

  • She is a female cat, she should not be seeing off  a big male, tough cat like that. But she does.

  • Scrumpy is clearly quite a different beast from  my meek cat Frida or listener Rachel’s Eva.  

  • So how come she is quite so feisty, which as Roger  says is very unusual for a small female cat?  

  • Yeah, this is a huge question. And it's  what makes me so fascinated about Scrumpy  

  • more than any other cat. There might be  genetically a predisposition to be slightly more  

  • spiky if you like. But her upbringing was  key, because it was a fairly rough household.  

  • She was found living in the back of a sofa  with these other litter mates. There were  

  • some large dogs there as well. So just surviving  at all, she had to be a bit of a tough cookie.  

  • A cat’s kittenhood, Roger explained, shapes  its survival skills. Scrumpy obviously got  

  • good at defending herself, and hunting is  another thing that a kitten learns early on.

  • When you're about four weeks of age mum  starts bringing in initially very dead prey.  

  • And then, slightly less dead prey. And you willby competing with her, you will as a little kitten  

  • learn from your Mum what to do. The cat is an  animal that has this capability of hunting,  

  • yes youve got those wonderful claws that flick  out. You have to be trained how to use it.  

  • So early life has a big effect on how  a cat might fend for itself outdoors,  

  • and from what I’ve seen of Scrumpy, I’d  say she’d have pretty good survival odds.  

  • As for our listener’s cat Eva? Well come back  to Roger later in the show to find out how  

  • he rates her chances. But I’m curious to find  out more about the wild side of our pet cats.

  • Cats are well-known for their proud  independence, especially when compared  

  • to that other pet favourite, dogs. But though  cats do a good imitation of a wild animal,  

  • how similar are they to their actual wild cousins?

  • So my name is Jamie Baker. I'm the head keeper  at Battersea Park Children's Zoo. And today I'm  

  • introducing you to our Scottish Wildcats. So we  have two female Scottish Wildcats here we've got  

  • Livvi and we've got Skye. This time of  the morning when the sun is shining on  

  • the back of their enclosure they like to  be up nice and high. So they've got quite  

  • a good view of everything around them. So Jamie, you've got a metal container  

  • in your hand with a lot of fluff  poking out the top. What is that?  

  • So I've got some rabbit, we give them a mixture  of different meat and fish throughout the week,  

  • similar to what they would eat out in the wild and  rabbit is their favourite. Still have the fur on!

  • Literally is feeding time at  the zoo. That squirrel is just  

  • outside the enclosure, it's really taunting cats.  

  • It would definitely be lunch if it  was inside! They still do occasionally  

  • catch their own food as well. Haven’t lost their skills.  

  • And I'm just gonna head inside now. Where are the cats? Are they going to follow him?  

  • Oh, he’s just thrown the rabbit  onto the platform right next to  

  • one of the cats but she won't be able to see it. Oh she is.  

  • Oh! She's grabbed it and she’s run off. She’s going to be nice and secretive  

  • and take it back to bed. Breakfast in bed, very sensible.

  • So it's interesting looking at these cats, theyre  sort of striped, tawny coloured, they do look  

  • very similar to my pet cat, to domestic catsHow closely related are these are the Scottish  

  • Wildcats to the cats we have in our homes? To the untrained eye, physically Scottish  

  • Wildcats look very similar to a domestic moggieBut it's mostly down to the personality and  

  • genetics. Our domestic cats that we have at home  are more related to wild descendants from Africa.  

  • In terms of their behaviour? They're  much more feisty, quite like their name  

  • suggests they are very wild. And would they be tameable?  

  • Definitely not. There are lots and lots of  records from many, many years ago of people  

  • saying that they've been able to tame a Scottish  wildcat, but it's actually never been proven.  

  • By nature, they do not get on with humans very  well. Whereas our domestic cats have evolved to  

  • be alongside humans, whether that be taking  food from us or just living around humans.  

  • Scottish wildcats are very much evolved for life  out in the wilds away from human civilization.

  • This is a key difference. True  wildcats can never be tamed,  

  • while the domestic cat will be friendly if it  gets used to us in the first few months of life.

  • On the other hand, if born in the wild, that same  domestic species can live completely independently  

  • of humans. But these feral cats are causing  serious problems for the Scottish wildcat…  

  • At the moment Scottish wildcats are actually  one of the most critically endangered animals  

  • on the planet. At one point, they were spread  right across Britain, and it's estimated after  

  • a big study in 2018 that there is only around 30  to 100 Scottish Wildcats left up in the highlands.  

  • Today, the main reason for them disappearing  is actually hybridization with feral cats. So  

  • feral cats are basically domestic cats that have  rediscovered their wild side. And they're living  

  • out in natural habitats hunting for themselvesand they're breeding with Scottish Wildcats,  

  • and we're ending up with fewer and fewer pure  Scottish Wildcats left out in the wild.  

  • The Scottish wildcats here are part of  a UK-wide captive breeding programme,  

  • that plans to release wildcats from next  year into rewilding enclosures in Scotland,  

  • where hopefully theyll be  protected from feral cats.

  • Were focusing in this show on whether our  listener’s cat could survive in the wild, but it’s  

  • important to consider the effect on other animals’  survival, if domestic cats are let loose….

  • Our domestic cats do quite well out in  the wild looking for their own food.  

  • But not only are they hybridising, with Scottish  Wildcats, and we're losing an iconic predator,  

  • but they also hunt small birds  and rodents and amphibians that  

  • are also quite rare in this countryAnd because domestic cats aren't  

  • a natural part of our food chain, they have  quite a negative impact on our environment.

  • So the Scottish wildcat is critically  endangered, while the domestic cat can act  

  • as an invasive species, threatening wildlife  in Scotland as well as many other places.

  • They really have conquered the  worldso how did this happen?  

  • Let’s take step back into evolutionary history  

  • and find out what drew wildcats to hang  out with us humans in the first place.

  • Will we find evidence of mummified  chewed up shoelaces?!  

  • The wild ancestors of almost all domestic  cats is the wild cat from Southwest Asia,  

  • and Northern Africa. It’s a  solitary animal - they hunt rodents,  

  • they hunt snakes, they hunt scorpions, naturally.

  • Dr Eva-Maria Geigl is a Research  Director of the CNRS in Paris, studying 

  • ancient DNA to investigate cats’  evolution and domestication.  

  • Before the dawn of the Neolithicwhich was when humans started farming,  

  • each subspecies of wildcats, was very  localised to their own part of the world.  

  • For example, Europe had the ancestors  of the Scottish wildcats weve just met.

  • But then, something changed. Dr Geigl picks up the  story when these early farmers went on the move.

  • Around 8000 years ago, when Neolithic farmers  migrated out of what is nowadays, Turkey,  

  • so Anatolia, in archaeological sites that testify  the presence of the first farmers from Anatolia  

  • that came into Europe, we found cat remains  that were not the type of the European Wildcat.  

  • So this indicated that these cats  came with the Neolithic farmers.  

  • One of the examples that is always cited is  the first archaeological finding on Cyprus,  

  • an island in the eastern Mediterranean that was  not inhabited by any feline species before the  

  • Neolithic. And at the beginning of the Neolithicarchaeologists have found a burial of a child,  

  • with a cat. Now we cannot say whether this cat  was a wild cat, or tamed cat, but we can say that  

  • this cat came with these first Neolithic farmers  because a cat will never swim to the island of  

  • Cyprus through the Mediterranean Sea. And this  means there was a special relationship between  

  • these cats and the first farmers. Now, how can we  imagine that this relationship was acquired? Well,  

  • we can imagine that the first farmers started  to accumulate grains. And of course, if you  

  • have an accumulation of seeds, grains, you will  attract rodents. But this also attracted cats,  

  • the wild cats that were living in the environment  around, and those cats who were the least afraid  

  • of the human presence, they would have run after  the rodents and really feast on these rodents.  

  • So the cats that were the least shy would have  started to just live with these early farmers who  

  • must have been delighted to have these cats around  killing rodents, they were killing snakes and  

  • scorpions. And this is how we imagine that this  relationship between cats and humans started.  

  • Cats were also crucial for humans  as they started to migrate overseas.  

  • They killed the rodents on board ships, thus  protecting the precious food stores, sails,  

  • even the wood of the ship itself. So where humans  travelled, so did catsthough if youve ever  

  • tried to get a cat near water you might suspect  they got them onboard in a rather coercive way.

  • But it was quite unlike the domestication of dogs,  

  • who were selected and bred for different tasksThe cats were just doing what came naturally.

  • So the cats were not particularly changed by  humans. There was no need. I always say cats were,  

  • from the very beginning, perfect for humansThey did exactly what humans wanted them to do.  

  • So there was no need to select any particular  character or trait of these cat. And there was no  

  • further change in the in the genomes. Exceptthe behaviour. Cats are solitary animals.  

  • And domestic cats are not as  solitary. They tolerate humans,  

  • more or less. And they tolerate other cats more  or less. So there must have been a change in the  

  • behaviour. They became less afraid of humansless shy. This is something we would like to see  

  • in the genome but behaviour is very complex, these  behavioural traits are encoded in multiple genes.  

  • And this is not very well known yet. EVA-Maria and her team are continuing to research  

  • the DNA of cats across time, to try and tease  out those changes associated with domestication.  

  • But it strikes me that those cats bold enough  to approach granaries thousands of years ago  

  • have ended up with an evolutionary advantage  over their wild counterparts. Instead of having  

  • to track down small creatures far and wide, they  now had the cat equivalent of a convenience store.

  • The wild cats have a disadvantage. I meanyou see already the numbers - there are  

  • 600 million cats in the world, and the wild  cat is on the edge of extinction. So of course,  

  • as any domestic animals, they are evolutionarily  winners. And then when you look at  

  • regions where no felines have lived naturallylike in Australia, like in New Zealand,  

  • and cats are brought into these environmentsthey thrive and they destroy endemic fauna.  

  • So they are really ferocious, invasive speciesThey succeed very well compared to wild cats.  

  • Is the ability to sidle up to humans maybe  just as much - or even more of a survival  

  • trick than those hunting instincts that  our listener’s cat Eva seems to be lacking?

  • Back with cat behaviourist Roger  Tabor, we see how that plays out,  

  • as we watch more of cat Scrumpy’s greatest hits.

  • This is some gardens overAnd this is not her house.

  • Okay, so I can see two houses, she's  walking down a path and is definitely  

  • getting closer to one of the houses. But look how she’s exploiting this.  

  • She’s just walked through a doorway. And  wait, you said that wasn't her house.  

  • Not her house. This is as the cat found itbecause there's no human being involved. So she's  

  • going into a total strangers house. Cat burglar!

  • And there is a food bowl over thereBut Scrumpy’s gone up taken a sniff..  

  • Realised there's no food  turned around very quickly.  

  • Absolutely. This is really very adventurous  stuff. Her owners had no idea that she moved far  

  • away from just going over the fence. But the fact  that she's going many gardens over and then going  

  • into other people's houses came as an absolute  revelation. So if you're looking at the survival  

  • of a cat in the big outside world, these are  sort of things that they can do only too easily.  

  • She does know how to hunt, but most of all  Scrumpy is a bold scavenger. Even though  

  • she’s very well fed and looked after in her  own home, these instincts are hardwired.  

  • A cat is a survivor. Even if you've got one that's  lived within your house, and you think it could  

  • only possibly live on the best gourmet food all  the time, and you tickling it and pampering it,  

  • believe me, at the end of the day, if your cat  can eat food from a saucer, it can survive by  

  • scavenging. Bottom line, it can scavenge. But  also it's got this other wonderful trick if  

  • it's been properly socialised, so it has become  more dependent on humans, what it will do is to  

  • go from garden to garden, house to house until it  finds somebody else who, the cat will entreaty,  

  • the voice will be there, it will be so plaintive  and, and we just are suckers. And if you are sort  

  • of cat-orientated person, that cat will findnew place. So that's part of its survival package.  

  • It's not just about hunting, exploiting  human beings is a great skill to have.  

  • And when you're in a human dense area, liketown surely that's the good way of surviving.

  • They've worked out they're onto  a good thing with us humans.  

  • Well, we're suckers aren’t we?!

  • This is all sounding hopeful for  our listener Rachel’s cat Eva,  

  • who, you might remember, doesn’t seem  like the world’s greatest hunter.  

  • So does Roger think she’d survive  on the mean streets all on her own?

  • My gut reaction, of course, is to say yes. All  cats are inherent survivors. If by chance she gets  

  • out. Because she's an indoor cat, she doesn't have  a map in her mind about what the local area is.  

  • So if something nasty happens while she's outsideso she runs around and runs and runs and gets into  

  • an area she's got no idea where she is, yes, that  could be a problem. And will she survive? Yes, she  

  • will survive because she will either do a little  bit of hunting, if she's got any of that in her,  

  • by the sounds of things she’s not very good at  hunting. Or much more significantly, and she will  

  • go and just scavenge. And if that scavenging  is sucking up to somebody and saying, miaow,  

  • that high pitched meow gets into us. So how can  we refuse, we're almost preconditioned to want  

  • to behave well. So if youve got somebody who  really loves cats and a cat comes up to you,  

  • Rachel's little Eva is going to survive.

  • Eva’s survival tool kit depends on her early  life, whether hunting, or scavenging, or winning  

  • humans over. But how well cats survive is also  going to be a question of their environment

  • Many cats do survive out on their own  – a study just released here in the UK  

  • estimated the stray and feral urban cat  population at a quarter of a million

  • So what about Japan, where  listener Rachel and her Eva live?  

  • How do stray cats fare there? Reporter Lucy Craft  visited a cat shelter in Tokyo to investigate… 

  • Youre curious. I see you yesDo you want some meaty stick?

  • Oh, oh there goes one guy, he's real climber huhThis is like a cat daycare centre. There's just  

  • like all kinds of things to climb up on. There's  toys, yes, you can go outside on the balcony.  

  • There's a cage right in front of me and there's  a cat happily napping away. There's another  

  • cat just wandering in and out of my legs down  here. Here's just a tail sticking out of this… 

  • I think this is timid one. No she’s got a great spot  

  • so she has no complaints... Somebody’s complaining. Hi

  • I'm Cheryl Nafthurst-Mori, been working  with Japan Cat Network for about 10 years,  

  • and manage our Tokyo logistics and shelter

  • I'm Susan Roberts, and I'm one of the  co founders for Japan Cat Network.  

  • We help people help stray and abandoned  cats in Japan since about the year 2000. 

  • So tell me what was the genesis  of your organisation, then

  • You know, it started with just  finding the situation intolerable,  

  • like finding kittens in parking lots and, and  not having a shelter to take any animals to

  • So Cheryl, tell me some of the cats that you  that you have here at the shelter. How did you  

  • find them? What were their situations? I would say our oldest kitties are two  

  • rescued from Fukushima, Rupert and Judy. They  were starving and left to fend for themselves.  

  • So we wanted to bring them into safetyThe 2011 nuclear disaster in Fukushima,  

  • triggered by a massive earthquake and tsunamiforced residents to evacuate quickly - and many  

  • had to leave their pets behind. So it  was a naturaltragic - experiment in  

  • catsability to survive by themselves. I think we were really shocked at how  

  • many starving animals we found. There's kind of  an impression that cats can fend for themselves.  

  • So a lot of people just set the cats free  thinking would only be for a short time.  

  • But it was for a long time. And some cats passed  away inside houses. And we found many doing badly

  • Of course, these were extreme conditions to  survive in – a disaster zone, suddenly emptied  

  • of humans, with food sources disappearing  overnight. But even here in Tokyo, Susan  

  • says life wouldn’t be easy for a cat who strayed. I don't think they would be able to survive well,  

  • that's not our experience. When we see  cats who are living on the streets,  

  • without care, trying to survive on their ownthey are not surviving well. They would have to  

  • be lucky enough to find a food source. They're not  going to be able to hunt enough, on the streets,  

  • to survive just from hunting. It would depend also  were they spayed or neutered, because being spayed  

  • or neutered makes a huge difference as well. Why is that

  • Because they have to use resources for  reproduction. And they have to fight  

  • and defend their territory. So they havemuch shorter lifespan without spay neuter

  • I live in Tokyo. I see the hazards facing a cat –  there’s traffic, disease, fights with other cats.  

  • I’ve even seen a kitten taken out by a crow. There  are a lot of street catsso many do survive.  

  • But the sheer number of cats is an issue toobecause it leads to conflict with humans

  • So youve got all these cats on the streetAnd that irritates people. They're noisy,  

  • they're smelly, they're fighting. And so then  people kind of take matters into their own hands

  • I don't know if this is just my neighbourhood.  I live not too far away from here. But whenever  

  • I walk around the neighbourhood, I  always see one or two stray cats.  

  • And I've seen particularly elderly women going  out opening up cans of tuna - are people just  

  • accustomed to cats being wild on the streets? You generally have somebody who feels sad about  

  • the cats in every community. So the question  is, what are they doing about it? People  

  • who are feeding cats are not necessarily spaying  or neutering them. None of us wants this many  

  • cats on the street. But the way to reduce them  is through trap neuter return. Catching cats,  

  • spaying and neutering them, and putting them back. Now, not everyone agrees with Trap Neuter Return:  

  • putting neutered cats back on the  streets, instead rehoming or killing them,  

  • means they still pose some risk to wildlife. But it’s widely accepted as a humane way  

  • to improve street catslives and keep their  populations down. In Tokyo official Community Cat  

  • Programmes have been set up where the local cats  are spayed or neutered, and residents provide for  

  • their basic needs. Research from Teikyo University  has found evidence this does benefit cat welfare

  • So - maybe it’s getting a little easier for  street cats here. But life is still probably  

  • going to be more comfortable in a home. So if  your cat does stray, Susan has some advice

  • We hand out a lot of tips because we get  contacted a lot. Maybe they made a mistake,  

  • the door wasn't quite closed. I think a lot  of people don't understand that cats can open  

  • screens, they can open windows, or they let  them out on the balcony, and they go over. So  

  • the most important thing is look for that catCats get trapped in outbuildings, you've got to  

  • talk to people in the neighbourhood, put  up posters, you have to call rescues.  

  • They're not going to be out in the openso they always hide. So if I looked around,  

  • I'd look for maybe a building that had a little  crawlspace, I'd look under cars. A lot of times,  

  • if you go out late at night, and you start  calling quietly, sometimes they'll come out.  

  • You can often find a cat that's gotten away. Good advice there thanks to Susan and Cheryl  

  • of Japan Cat Network and reporter Lucy CraftReturning to our listener Rachel’s question,  

  • if she did decide to put Eva out on  the streetsand I’m pleased she has  

  • no plans to do soshe’d face all sorts of  hazards, but she’d have a chance of survival.  

  • And from what I’ve seen and heard of her,  I think it would be her beguiling eyes  

  • and plaintiff miaow that would win the day. Get a little bit more exciting here

  • The tempos up, the paw’s out. Ah.. What a cat

  • Do you think she would survive if she if she  was for some reason back outside in the wild

  • Initially, it might be pretty hard for her.  

  • But I bet she could survive... somehow Optimism, I like it. And that happens  

  • to be the subject of next week’s CrowdScience as  Marnie Chesterton pits optimism against pessimism,  

  • but to end this show, let’s go back  to Racheland Eva - for the credits

  • That's all for this episode of crowd  science from the BBC World Service.  

  • Today's question was from me, Rachel  in Japan with a little help from my pet  

  • cat Eva. The show was presented by Melanie  brown and produced by Cathy Edwards. If you  

  • have a question you want answered please email  crowdscience@bbc.co.uk Thanks for listening Bye.

Hey Eva come on over here want me  to brush you? Hey sweet kitty…. 

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