Turner and Hooch.

特納和胡奇。

I'm really excited to have a discussion about being black artists and professionals and creator and all our, our shared experiences.

我真的很高興能討論作為黑人藝術家、專業人士和創造者以及我們所有的共同經歷。

So yeah, let's let's go ahead, let's do it.

是以，是的，讓我們繼續，讓我們做吧。

So Cara, how did you get started in in enacting?

那麼，Cara，你是如何開始從事制定工作的？

I always loved it as a child, but my mom was, she was a single parent and I wasn't able to be exposed to her much, she wasn't able to put me in all the classes and do all that stuff.

我從小就喜歡它，但我媽媽是，她是一個單親家庭，我沒能接觸到她很多，她沒能讓我參加所有的課程，做所有的事情。

So I didn't really get a chance to really explore it until high school.

所以我直到高中才真正有機會真正探索它。

I was really kind of thinking it was a hobby because I didn't really feel brave enough to say I wanted to really be an actor.

我當時真的有點想這是一個愛好，因為我真的覺得沒有勇氣說我想真正成為一個演員。

I was just like, this is my hobby is something I would do on the side.

我當時只是想，這是我的愛好，是我要做的副業。

It was really some teachers that took me under their wing and really gave me the courage to go at it full force and I've been doing it, everything I actually started out doing commercials.

真的是一些老師把我帶到他們的翅膀下，真的給了我勇氣去全力以赴，我一直在做，實際上我一開始就在做廣告。

My mom, uh I was 12 and my mom there was an ad on the radio saying they needed ethnic kids to uh to audition for commercials.

我媽媽，呃，我當時12歲，我媽媽在收音機上有一個廣告，說他們需要少數民族的孩子來呃試鏡做商業廣告。

So my mom came home one day and she was like, yo I heard this out on the radio, do you wanna do you want to audition for commercials?

所以我媽媽有一天回家，她說，喲，我在廣播裡聽到了這個消息，你想不想參加廣告試鏡？

And I was like, yeah, sure.

而我當時想，是的，當然。

I do understand like when you say it does take courage to be able to tell people like, hey, like I wanted to do this as a profession and I don't know if there's like, like, I don't know, like I know like my, both my parents are immigrants too, so it was really hard for them to kind of understand that like, you know, you know, like that was definitely a part of like me, like taking longer to sort of admit to myself and everybody else and I want to do this, you know, as a job and my mom is from Trinidad and my dad's from Grenada and I know that they really wanted to afford their Children the opportunity that they felt that they didn't have.

我確實理解，就像你說的，能夠告訴別人，比如，嘿，比如我想做這個職業，我不知道是否有像，像，我不知道，像我知道像我的，我的父母也是移民，所以對他們來說，真的很難理解，就像，你知道，你知道。這絕對是我的一部分，我花了更多時間向自己和其他人承認，我想做這個，你知道，作為一份工作，我媽媽來自特立尼達，我爸爸來自格瑞那達，我知道他們真的想讓他們的孩子有機會，他們覺得自己沒有。

Um and so I think that's also maybe the reason why there was so kind of hesitant about me going into acting, they were just scared and then they wanted they just wanted, you know, security for their kid.

所以我想這也可能是為什麼他們對我進入演藝圈如此猶豫的原因，他們只是害怕，然後他們想他們只是想，你知道，為他們的孩子提供安全。

I think.

我認為。

Absolutely, have you ever had to change anything about yourself to get a role?

當然，你是否曾經為了得到一個角色而不得不改變自己的什麼？

I had to learn how to be myself because there was a difference between how the industry saw me versus how I saw myself, I've definitely been guilty of like trying to be what I felt like I was expected of me and but I don't think that I got very far doing that, it doesn't go well and when I'm like, listen, this is my interpretation of this character, this is what I bring to it and really embrace my authenticity.

我必須學會如何做我自己，因為業界對我的看法和我對自己的看法是有區別的，我肯定是有罪的，就像試圖成為我覺得我被期望的那樣，但我不認為我這樣做走得很遠，它並不順利，當我喜歡，聽，這是我對這個角色的解釋，這是我帶來的東西，真正擁抱我的真實性。

That's when I've been rewarded the most.

那是我得到回報最多的時候。

What about you?

你呢？

Have you ever felt like you needed to?

你是否曾覺得你需要這樣做？

I mean, you know, for me, like oftentimes like my my dreads has been an issue.

我的意思是，你知道，對我來說，就像很多時候，我的辮子一直是一個問題。

I've definitely not gotten roles because I refused to cut my hair.

我絕對沒有因為拒絕剪頭髮而得到過角色。

They were like, well sorry, like, well I'm not cutting it, you know, But I think that's getting better and sometimes that means saying no to things, you know what I mean, that you're not necessarily comfortable, but it's so funny you bring up hair because that has been a big issue as far as um in a big topic among black actresses as far as like the hair that we bring to a role because of my type when if, if the character was listed as beautiful or classy or elegant, that I couldn't wear my natural curly hair, I was like straightening my hair at first.

他們就像，好吧，對不起，就像，好吧，我不剪，你知道，但我認為這越來越好，有時這意味著對事情說不，你知道我的意思，你不一定舒服。但你提到頭髮很有趣，因為這一直是一個大問題，就像黑人女演員中的一個大話題，就像我們為一個角色帶來的頭髮，因為我的類型，如果，如果角色被列為美麗或優雅或優雅，我不能穿我的自然捲發，我就像拉直我的頭髮在第一。

So that was a part of when I was referencing, you know those times when I was trying to be what people expected of me over time as as it went on, I just realized like why can't my natural hair be considered beautiful and classy and why am I stressing myself out, I can't be my full self and it puts a lot of the focus on the external and just you know, really nitpicking myself and we get so much rejection, we just have to really be vigilant about not adding onto it and rejecting myself before I even, you know, get started.

所以那是我參考的一部分，你知道那些時候我試圖成為人們對我的期望，隨著時間的推移，我只是意識到，為什麼我的自然頭髮不能被認為是美麗和優雅的，為什麼我給自己壓力，我不能成為完整的自己，它把很多焦點放在外部，只是你知道，真的挑剔自己，我們得到這麼多的拒絕，我們只是必須真正警惕，不要在我甚至，你知道，開始之前增加它和拒絕自己。

Yeah, there you go.

是的，你去吧。

You have like you never know what they're looking for, right?

你有像你永遠不知道他們在尋找什麼，對嗎？

And you can never like and it's like it's such an exercise in futility trying to figure out what they want because a lot of times they don't even know what they want until they see it exactly.

你永遠不可能喜歡，而且試圖弄清他們想要什麼是徒勞的，因為很多時候他們甚至不知道他們想要什麼，直到他們看到它。

And even being rewarded by getting the job with my natural hair then there's the hurdle of the industry needs to catch up to that I don't have anxiety going to a set because there would never be like somebody who knows how to like cut my hair, I'd always have to bring in my own person or like go like on my own time to like my own bar.

即使是以我的自然頭髮得到工作的獎勵，那麼還有一個障礙，就是這個行業需要趕上，我沒有焦慮去一個片場，因為永遠不會有人知道如何像剪我的頭髮，我總是不得不帶來我自己的人或像在我自己的時間去像我自己的酒吧。

And it's like guys like I shouldn't have to like, like I should be and what's not here is when you see white co stars and they're able to just sit there coffee and get into character and just like they're not and I'm in the mirror with my Home girl on Facetime, help me with my wig because this woman don't know how to do my leave out, right, you know, whatever.

這就像我不應該像，像我應該和什麼不在這裡是當你看到白人合作明星和他們能夠只是坐在那裡的咖啡和進入角色，只是像他們不和我在鏡子裡與我的家庭女孩在Facetime，幫助我與我的假髮，因為這個女人不知道如何做我離開了，對，你知道，什麼。

So Brandon when it comes to acting, how important is it to have passion for the craft?

那麼，布蘭登在談到表演時，對技藝的熱情有多重要呢？

I just love acting?

我只是喜歡演戲？

I like like looking into somebody's eyes and being truthful.

我喜歡喜歡看著某人的眼睛，並且是真實的。

Like I like the process of like reading um I like learning about the character and those are the things I think that that prop you up when you would not be working, right, when you're in between jobs, when you're, you know, you've done a billion auditions and nobody's biting what gets you through those times or is if you just actually love acting.

我喜歡閱讀的過程，我喜歡瞭解這個角色，這些都是我認為在你不工作的時候可以支持你的東西，對，當你在工作之間，當你，你知道，你已經做了10億次試鏡，沒有人咬你，是什麼讓你度過這些時間，或者是如果你真的熱愛表演。

Um So yeah, I think it's really important if you had one piece of advice like piggyback on what I just said for young and upcoming actors and actresses of color, what would it be?

所以，我認為這真的很重要，如果你有一個建議，就像我剛才說的對年輕的和即將到來的有色人種演員的建議一樣，那會是什麼？

Well, I think just like what we've been saying is the number one is to own who you are and to speak up.

好吧，我想就像我們一直在說的那樣，第一是要擁有自己的身份，並大聲說話。

I was so grateful to just get an opportunity that I would just take anything.

我非常感激能夠得到一個機會，我願意接受任何東西。

And a lot of times, you know, it's so hard to get these jobs and then you get there and sometimes you get there, you see like, oh there's some of the same microaggressions that happen like at the office job or at my side job waiting tables and like favoritism and bias happens and like, and I'm still experiencing some of that and I'm like and you think that is everything when you're doing your passion, that everything's gonna be roses once you, all I gotta do is start working, but like I know you can be grateful and you can still speak up for yourself, what stories centered around people of color and filming tv do you feel like you aren't seeing, I wouldn't mind seeing sort of more like more like the celebration of of of us and and uh and and like accomplishment type stories instead of diving into sort of the trauma, what about you?

很多時候，你知道，得到這些工作是如此困難，然後你到了那裡，有時你到了那裡，你看到像，哦，有一些同樣的微侵略發生在辦公室工作或在我的副業等待桌子，像偏袒和偏見發生，像，我仍然經歷了一些，我很喜歡，你認為這是一切，當你做你的激情。一旦你開始工作，一切都會變成玫瑰，但我知道你可以心存感激，你仍然可以為自己說話，以有色人種為中心的故事和拍攝電視，你覺得你沒有看到，我不介意看到那種更多的像慶祝我們和呃和像成就類型的故事，而不是潛入那種創傷，你呢？

I feel like more people need to tell their stories if that were to happen, we wouldn't get the same types of stories, all the nuances and all the think beautiful things that happen, you know, as a personal color as a black person because the resilience is important, not just the the trauma, the bounce back, we got to see the bounce back, I feel like my job and the reason why I do this with my life is to create a body of work that I feel like I'm telling uplifting and positive stories about the black experience and about that and I specifically am intentional about telling stories that shine a positive light on black women.

我覺得更多的人需要講述他們的故事，如果這樣的話，我們就不會得到同樣類型的故事，所有的細微差別和所有認為美好的事情發生，你知道，作為一個黑人的個人色彩，因為復原力很重要，不僅僅是創傷，反彈。我們必須看到反彈，我覺得我的工作和我用生命做這件事的原因是創造一個作品，我覺得我在講述關於黑人經驗和關於黑人經驗的令人振奮和積極的故事，我特別有意講述那些照亮黑人婦女的正面故事。

Yeah, I try to just do my part to create something that I can be proud of and then hopefully my family and kids and grandkids will be proud of.

是的，我試著做我的工作，創造一些我可以感到自豪的東西，然後希望我的家人、孩子和孫子會感到自豪。

Do you think about legacy?

你考慮過遺產問題嗎？

What do you think about, you know, I never had before until recently, you know I'll go to these cons and I think I was like the second black power and you have like the leader of the rangers and I go to these cons, these little black kids will be like, hey man, like you know, I watched you when I was nine and I didn't, I've never seen like a black, like a black person in a leadership role and then I saw you as a red ranger and so I've always kind of carried that on two.

你怎麼看，你知道，我以前從來沒有過，直到最近，你知道我會去參加這些音樂會，我認為我就像第二個黑勢力，你有像遊騎兵的領袖，我去參加這些音樂會，這些小黑人孩子會喜歡，嘿，夥計，就像你知道的，我九歲的時候看你，我沒有，我從來沒有見過像一個黑人，像一個黑人的上司角色，然後我看到你作為一個紅色的遊騎兵，所以我一直有點把這個帶到二。

It's like I want to be, I want to I want to like open people's eyes up and look like me.

這就像我想成為，我想我想像打開人們的眼睛，看起來像我。

Like hey, like I can also exist in those spaces.

比如說嘿，比如說我也可以存在於這些空間裡。

There's room for me there too.

那裡也有我的空間。

That's important for me.

這對我來說很重要。

Representation is so important.

代表性是如此重要。

And then that's a big reason why I was so excited that they wrote the pregnant, my pregnancy and I would hope that it would be inspiring to other black women and other black actresses that your life doesn't have to stop.

然後這也是我非常興奮的一個重要原因，他們寫了我的懷孕，我希望這對其他黑人婦女和其他黑人女演員有啟發作用，你的生活不一定要停止。

So I think people need to see those images and say like, whoa, it is possible.

所以我認為人們需要看到這些影像，並說，哇，這是可能的。

Um if he can do it, I can do it, you know, Oh awesome to connect with you today.

嗯，如果他能做到，我也能做到，你知道，哦，今天能和你聯繫真是太棒了。

I am, I'm so glad that we have this opportunity to share our experiences together.

我是，我很高興我們有這個機會一起分享我們的經驗。

Thank you for joining me.

謝謝你加入我。

Thanks for joining us on Disney Plus Voices Catch Turner and Hooch now streaming on Disney Plus right?

謝謝你加入我們在Disney Plus Voices的節目，Catch Turner and Hooch現在正在Disney Plus上播放，對嗎？