Anna Stewart joins us now with more.

安娜-斯圖爾特現在加入我們，為我們提供更多資訊。

So what is the US plan here to kind of wean off to wean itself off of Russian energy from from being so dependent on Russia's oil and gas.

那麼，美國在這裡的計劃是什麼，是為了擺脫對俄羅斯能源的依賴，擺脫對俄羅斯石油和天然氣的依賴。

Well, this was a really comprehensive package and that is a big acceleration that figure for renewable energy by 2030 from what it had before It comes as you said there with a big price tag, $220 billion.

嗯，這是一個真正全面的一攬子計劃，到2030年可再生能源的數字比以前有一個很大的加速。

Ultimately, though, it believes this plan would save the block Longer term around $100 billion dollars a year because that's roughly how much it spends on fossil fuels and largely of course from Russia.

但最終，它認為這個計劃將為區塊鏈每年節省約1000億美元，因為這大概是它在化石燃料上的花費，當然主要來自俄羅斯。

Now, the plan is very comprehensive.

現在，該計劃是非常全面的。

Part of this was particularly short term, will be just replacing some of the natural gas from Russia with liquefied gas from elsewhere that will help it reduce its reliance certainly this year By 2/3 women talking about Russia Longer term though, it is all about greener energies and it's got a lot of different plans in this package.

其中一部分是特別短期的，將只是用來自其他地方的液化天然氣取代一些來自俄羅斯的天然氣，這將有助於它減少對俄羅斯的依賴，當然是在今年 由2/3的婦女談論俄羅斯 更長期的，雖然它是所有關於更綠色的能源，它有很多不同的計劃在這個包。

For instance, it wants to speed up the process of green lighting, new energy projects, making it easier and quicker.

例如，它希望加快綠色照明、新能源項目的進程，使之更容易、更快捷。

He wants to ensure that any new public building built in the EU has solar roof panels by 2025.

他希望確保到2025年，歐盟的任何新公共建築都有太陽能屋頂板。

Important to note that while this is a really ambitious plan with great ideas on infrastructure to help wean itself off Russian energy, it will require the approval of all 27 member states and not just the approval Alison, but also implementation because it's not just money coming from the EU, this will take action from all member states and and some strength because it's certainly not easy to wean off being so dependent on Russian energy sources.

需要注意的是，雖然這是一個真正雄心勃勃的計劃，在基礎設施方面有很好的想法，以幫助擺脫俄羅斯的能源，但它將需要所有27個成員國的準許，而且不僅僅是準許艾莉森，還需要實施，因為這不僅僅是來自歐盟的錢，這將需要所有成員國的行動和一些力量，因為要擺脫對俄羅斯能源的如此依賴肯定不容易。

You know, for now, the EU is reliant on Russian gas and it risks being cut off from that.

你知道，目前，歐盟依賴俄羅斯的天然氣，它有被切斷的風險。

If it doesn't bend to President Putin's demands for payments to be made in rubles, What more are you learning about that?

如果它不屈服於普京總統關於以盧布付款的要求，那麼你還能瞭解到什麼？

Well, if anything, the situation on that front is getting more confusing.

好吧，如果有的話，這方面的情況正變得越來越混亂。

Now, yesterday we had guidance at last from the EU and it seems to contradict actually some of the guidance they gave last week at the heart of this issue is can EU energy suppliers pay for their gas using both a euro account with Gazprombank and a Euro council, can they pay in euros to Gazprombank have that money in Russia by a Russian entity converted into rubles and for that to pay for the energy, would that be a breach of sanctions at the end of last week, it appeared that he was leaning towards the idea that it wouldn't be and that just by sending euros to Russia would fulfill the contract, that payment would be done as of last night.

現在，昨天我們終於得到了來自歐盟的指導意見，它似乎與他們上週給出的一些指導意見相矛盾，這個問題的核心是歐盟能源供應商能否同時使用Gazprombank的歐元賬戶和歐元委員會來支付他們的天然氣。他們是否可以用歐元支付給Gazprombank，讓俄羅斯實體將這筆錢兌換成盧布，然後支付能源費用，這是否違反了上週末的制裁，他似乎傾向於認為不會，只要向俄羅斯發送歐元就可以履行合同，從昨晚開始就可以支付了。

The suggestion is that setting up any kind of ruble account with Gazprombank would be a breach of sanctions.

該建議是，在俄羅斯天然氣銀行設立任何形式的盧布賬戶都將違反制裁。

This leaves these energy importers in quite pickle as to what to do.

這讓這些能源進口國陷入了相當的困境，不知道該怎麼辦。

Now.

現在。

We believe quite a few of them have set up both euro accounts and ruble accounts with Gazprombank at this stage.

我們相信，在這個階段，他們中的相當一部分人已經在Gazprombank設立了歐元賬戶和盧布賬戶。

We know, for instance, any in Italy has done that.

我們知道，比如說，意大利的任何一個人都是這樣做的。

They said they did that yesterday as a precautionary measure.

他們說他們昨天這樣做是為了防患於未然。

Um but it's coming down to the worst.

嗯，但現在已經到了最糟糕的時候了。

Some of these contracts are due to be paid.

這些合同中的一些是應該支付的。

Some countries like Finland, they're big gas imported there has said they will not play ball with this.

一些國家，如芬蘭，他們是天然氣進口大國，已經說他們不會與此打交道。

They simply refuse to pay in euros and have it converted to rubles.

他們乾脆拒絕用歐元付款，而讓人將其兌換成盧布。

They refuse to bow to President Putin's decree they expect or warn that it could be cut off from Russian gas this weekend.

他們拒絕向普京總統的法令低頭，他們預計或警告說，本週末可能會被切斷俄羅斯的天然氣。

That has already happened from Poland for Bulgaria.

從波蘭到保加利亞已經發生了這種情況。

But for a country like Sweden natural gas accounts for just 6% of the overall energy mix for other member states in the EU.

但對於像瑞典這樣的國家，天然氣在歐盟其他成員國的整體能源結構中僅佔6%。

So really, we're looking for more guidance.

所以真的，我們正在尋找更多的指導。

Perhaps some compromise and definitely more clarity from the EU on whether these suppliers can pay for their gas using euros that gets converted into rubles.

也許歐盟會做出一些妥協，並且肯定會更加明確這些供應商是否可以用歐元支付他們的天然氣，並將其轉換為盧布。

Allison.

艾莉森。

Okay, anna Stewart, Great for all.

好的，安娜-斯圖爾特，太好了。