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  • Claudia: When it comes to Greek yogurt, we may think

    克勞迪婭:說到希臘酸奶,我們可能認為

  • that the authentic version is made of cow's milk

    正宗的版本是用牛乳製成的。

  • and is strained of its own liquid

    並將其自身的液體過濾掉

  • to reach the perfect thick and creamy consistency.

    以達到完美的粘稠度和奶油狀。

  • Well, none of this is actually true.

    好吧,這些其實都不是真的。

  • Real Greek yogurt, of the kind made not in factories

    真正的希臘酸奶,不是在工廠生產的那種

  • but in villages, like here, in Flokas near Olympia,

    但在村莊裡,像這裡,在奧林匹亞附近的弗洛卡斯。

  • has never been strained and probably never will.

    從未緊張過,也可能永遠不會緊張。

  • Here, yogurt is made with full-fat sheep's milk.

    在這裡,酸奶是用全脂綿羊奶製成的。

  • This rich milk, together with a combination

    這種濃郁的牛奶,再加上一個組合

  • of time and temperatures, is going to give us a yogurt

    時間和溫度的變化,將給我們帶來酸奶。

  • that is already tart and creamy in its own pot,

    在它自己的鍋裡已經是酸甜可口的奶油。

  • without the need to be strained at all.

    根本不需要緊張。

  • It all starts with that fresh sheep's milk.

    這一切都始於那杯新鮮的羊奶。

  • Antonis: Drink some of it. Claudia: Smells strong, huh?

    安東尼。喝一點吧。聞起來很濃,是吧?

  • Yes.

    是的。

  • Wow, yeah, there's a lot of fat there.

    哇,是的,那裡有很多的脂肪。

  • It's thick. Antonis: Yeah.

    它很厚。安東尼斯:是的。

  • Claudia: It has a little bit of tanginess.

    克勞迪婭:它有一點酸味。

  • Like you said, it's not sweet.

    如你所說,它不甜。

  • It's a bit acid. Antonis: Yes, yes, yes.

    這有點酸。安東尼斯:是的,是的,是的。

  • Claudia: Yogurt at Antonis' dairy starts

    克勞迪婭:安東尼斯乳業的酸奶開始了

  • with one-day-old cold milk.

    用一天的冷牛奶。

  • His technician, Thanasis, heats it up to 90 degrees Celsius,

    他的技術員Thanasis將其加熱到90攝氏度。

  • waits one hour, and then transfers it into small pots.

    等待一個小時,然後將其轉移到小鍋中。

  • Although it looks simple, gauging your strength

    雖然它看起來很簡單,但衡量你的實力

  • with this pump is actually very difficult.

    使用這種泵實際上是非常困難的。

  • Oh, it's warm, huh? Antonis: Yeah.

    哦,很溫暖,是吧?安東尼斯:是的。

  • In here.

    在這裡。

  • Claudia: Like that? Antonis: Good, press it.

    克勞迪婭:像這樣嗎?安東尼斯。很好,按吧。

  • Slowly.

    慢慢地。

  • Claudia: It's super complicated

    克勞迪婭:這超級複雜

  • because it's very, very sensitive,

    因為它非常、非常敏感。

  • and it's also super warm.

    而且它也是超級溫暖的。

  • Antonis: It's not too complicated,

    安東尼斯:這不是太複雜。

  • but it has small secrets.

    但它有小祕密。

  • Claudia: Yeah.

    克勞迪婭:是的。

  • Antonis: As every job, as with anything.

    安東尼斯。和每項工作一樣,和任何事情一樣。

  • Claudia: What is the difference

    克勞迪婭:區別是什麼?

  • between putting yogurt in a plastic one

    把酸奶放在塑膠袋裡

  • versus this bowl? Antonis: No, no, no.

    與這個碗相比?安東尼。不,不,不。

  • It's not, you know, it's the same yogurt.

    這不是,你知道,這是同一種酸奶。

  • It has to do with the look.

    這與外觀有關。

  • Claudia: With the tradition.

    克勞迪婭:與傳統。

  • Yes. It looks more traditional.

    是的,它看起來更傳統。

  • Claudia: If you look carefully, you will notice

    克勞迪婭:如果你仔細觀察,你會發現

  • that Thanasis is not filling the pots to the brim.

    塔納西斯沒有把盆子裝滿。

  • He is leaving a little room

    他留下了一個小空間

  • for what Antonis calls the powder.

    為安東尼斯所稱的粉末。

  • It's made of old, broken yogurt

    它是由舊的、破碎的酸奶製成的

  • that is 20 or even 30 days old

    20天甚至30天后才有的

  • mixed with some fresh milk.

    與一些鮮奶混合。

  • It's added to ferment the yogurt, a bit like sourdough.

    它被添加到酸奶中進行發酵,有點像酸麵糰。

  • Thanasis uses an even smaller pump to add the powder.

    Thanasis使用一個更小的泵來添加粉末。

  • And yes, the smaller pump is even harder

    是的,較小的泵甚至更難

  • to use than the previous one.

    比前者更容易使用。

  • Thanasis has to put only 5 milligrams in every pot,

    Thanasis必須在每個鍋裡只放5毫克的藥。

  • so I won't even try using it this time.

    所以這次我甚至不會嘗試使用它。

  • He adds the powder from the side of the pot

    他從鍋的側面加入粉末

  • to preserve the crust on the top.

    以保留上面的地殼。

  • Antonis: The way that Thanasis use

    安東尼斯。塔納西斯使用的方式

  • is the same way that my mother, my wife's mother

    是我的母親和我妻子的母親的相同方式

  • was making the yogurt 50 years ago.

    50年前就在製作酸奶。

  • This is the authentic yogurt.

    這就是正宗的酸奶。

  • Claudia: So, yeah, actually you can see

    克勞迪婭:所以,是的,實際上你可以看到

  • it already formed a little bit of a film,

    它已經形成了一個小的電影。

  • even though it's been here only for, like, 10 minutes.

    儘管它在這裡只呆了,大概10分鐘。

  • Antonis: Now we'll close the door,

    安東尼。現在我們把門關上。

  • and we turn on the heat

    和我們打開的熱量

  • from 45 to 50 degrees.

    從45度到50度。

  • And we are going to let it, for three hours.

    而我們要讓它,三個小時。

  • Claudia: When the doors are opened

    克勞迪婭:當門被打開時

  • three hours later,

    三小時後。

  • a crust is formed on the surface of the yogurt.

    在酸奶的表面形成一個結殼。

  • That is the butterfat present in the milk,

    這就是牛奶中存在的黃油脂肪。

  • whereas the liquid whey now sits at the bottom.

    而液體乳清現在則位於底部。

  • Antonis: It's ready. How strong we want for the time.

    安東尼斯:已經準備好了。我們想要多強的時間。

  • Claudia: Every yogurt is different.

    克勞迪婭:每種酸奶都是不同的。

  • Not all pots turn into yogurt.

    不是所有的鍋都會變成酸奶。

  • In this one here, the powder didn't work.

    在這裡的這個人,粉末沒有發揮作用。

  • As Antonis moves the pots out of the fridge,

    當安東尼斯把鍋子從冰箱裡搬出來時。

  • he has to be careful not to move them too much,

    他必須注意不要太過移動它們。

  • because the liquid whey from the bottom of the pot

    因為鍋底的液體乳清

  • can surface and spoil the yogurt.

    會浮出水面,使酸奶變質。

  • The only one that can handle a bit of wiggling

    唯一一個可以處理一點扭動的人

  • for the camera is this 17-kilo tub

    攝影機是這個17公斤重的浴缸

  • that Antonis will turn into tzatziki.

    安東尼斯將把這些東西變成tzatziki。

  • Although at this step it is important

    儘管在這一步驟中,重要的是

  • that the butterfat at the top

    頂端的乳脂

  • and the liquid whey at the bottom stay separate,

    和底部的液體乳清保持分離。

  • that doesn't mean that the liquid whey

    這並不意味著液態乳清

  • needs to be strained and taken away.

    需要緊張並帶走。

  • The whey is sour, and the butterfat is sweet.

    乳清是酸的,而黃油脂肪是甜的。

  • As the yogurt keeps fermenting at room temperature

    由於酸奶在室溫下不斷髮酵

  • in its pot, the two will slowly combine.

    在其鍋中,兩者將慢慢結合。

  • Antonis: We open the window, we open the door,

    安東尼斯。我們打開窗戶,我們打開門。

  • and all this fresh air works like a natural air condition.

    而所有這些新鮮空氣的作用就像一個自然的空氣條件。

  • Claudia: Oh, all right.

    克勞迪婭:哦,好的。

  • The temperature goes down naturally.

    溫度自然下降。

  • Believe me, this is something

    相信我,這是一件

  • that not many people can see.

    沒有多少人可以看到。

  • OK.

    好的。

  • Claudia: Yeah, because you normally have a yogurt

    克勞迪婭:是的,因為你通常有一個酸奶

  • from the fridge.

    從冰箱裡拿出來。

  • Antonis: You see it as we move it.

    安東尼:你看到它,因為我們移動它。

  • It's not moved very easy.

    它不是很容易移動的。

  • It's strong.

    它很強壯。

  • Claudia: Yeah.

    克勞迪婭:是的。

  • So, what does fresh, warm yogurt taste like?

    那麼,新鮮、溫暖的酸奶是什麼味道?

  • Mm.

    嗯。

  • Antonis: It's almost like baby cream.

    安東尼斯:這幾乎就像嬰兒奶油。

  • Claudia: Nice, yeah.

    克勞迪婭:不錯,是的。

  • It's not a feeling on your mouth that you're used to.

    嘴上的感覺不是你所習慣的。

  • Because it's warm cream,

    因為它是溫暖的奶油。

  • and we're not used to eating warm cream.

    而且我們不習慣吃熱奶油。

  • Antonis: You see, you see the juices?

    安東尼:你看,你看到了這些果汁嗎?

  • Claudia: So this is the whey,

    克勞迪婭:所以這就是乳清。

  • the liquid whey in the milk.

    牛奶中的液體乳清。

  • And this is the one that normally is taken away,

    而這是通常被帶走的。

  • you know, when you make strained milk.

    你知道,當你做過濾牛奶的時候。

  • A small 200-gram pot of Antonis' sheep's milk yogurt

    一小罐200克的Antonis羊奶酸奶

  • contains 6% fat and 6% protein,

    含有6%的脂肪和6%的蛋白質。

  • both of which sometimes rise as high as 8%,

    這兩個數字有時會上升到8%。

  • depending on the weather and what the sheep forage.

    這取決於天氣和羊群的採食情況。

  • This percentages of fat and protein are double

    這個百分比的脂肪和蛋白質是雙倍的

  • what cow's milk yogurt is made of and can only be matched

    牛奶酸奶是由什麼組成的,只能與之匹配

  • by straining out the whey in cow's milk

    濾除牛奶中的乳清

  • to increase the volume of butterfat.

    以增加黃油脂肪的體積。

  • Straining means you need more milk,

    過濾意味著你需要更多的牛奶。

  • so more fat, to have the same volume of yogurt.

    所以更多的脂肪,才能有相同體積的酸奶。

  • Today's batch of milk gave Antonis 280 pots of yogurt.

    今天的一批牛奶給了安東尼斯280壺酸奶。

  • After resting at room temperature for one hour,

    在室溫下靜置一小時後。

  • they will have a 15-day shelf life

    它們將有15天的保質期

  • if stored in the fridge.

    如果儲存在冰箱裡。

  • Antonis: We had the milk. You see?

    安東尼。我們有牛奶。你看到了嗎?

  • Claudia: Ooh!

    克勞迪婭:哦!

  • Antonis: This is the final product.

    安東尼斯。這就是最終的產品。

  • Claudia: When the yogurt is cold,

    克勞迪婭:當酸奶是冷的。

  • the taste of the crust on top

    頂端皮層的味道

  • and the creamy part below it will be different.

    和它下面的奶油色部分將是不同的。

  • Antonis: This is real. All the butter.

    安東尼。這是真的。所有的黃油。

  • Claudia: And it's very tart, as well.

    克勞迪婭:它也非常酸澀。

  • Like, it's not sweet at all.

    比如,它一點都不甜。

  • And this is really --

    而這真的是...

  • Antonis: You understand the difference?

    安東尼斯:你明白其中的區別嗎?

  • Claudia: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

    克勞迪婭:是的,是的,是的,當然了。

  • And this is this kind of milk

    而這是這種牛奶

  • compared to cow's milk or, like, strained yogurt.

    與牛奶或像過濾後的酸奶相比。

  • This is much more tart. Antonis: Eat the inside.

    這是更多的酸味。安東尼斯。吃裡面的。

  • Mm.

    嗯。

  • Wow, it has a completely different taste, huh?

    哇,它的味道完全不同,是吧?

  • Antonis: You see it. Claudia: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    安東尼斯:你看到了。克勞迪婭:是的,是的,是的。

  • This is a little bit sweet, but not sugary.

    這有一點甜,但不含糖分。

  • To add an extra layer of sweetness,

    為了增加額外的甜味。

  • Antonis lets me try the yogurt

    安東尼讓我試喝酸奶

  • topped with some grape jam made by his mother.

    上面有他母親做的一些葡萄果醬。

  • We also tried it spread on bread.

    我們還試著把它塗在麵包上。

  • Mm.

    嗯。

  • You know what the doctors say?

    你知道醫生怎麼說嗎?

  • It's a full dinner.

    這是一個完整的晚餐。

  • Yeah, I'm going to send some pictures to my doctor.

    是的,我準備給我的醫生髮一些照片。

  • Bread and yogurt.

    麵包和酸奶。

  • We take the milk, any kind of milk they will give us.

    我們接受牛奶,他們願意給我們的任何種類的牛奶。

  • That's why sometimes the yogurt is

    這就是為什麼有時酸奶是

  • stronger, fatter, more proteins.

    更強壯、更胖、更多的蛋白質。

  • This is what mother nature give to us.

    這就是大自然給我們的東西。

  • We have to work with this,

    我們必須與此合作。

  • and we will make the product.

    而我們將製造產品。

  • Claudia: With whatever you have, yeah.

    克勞迪婭:用你擁有的任何東西,是的。

  • And we will see if it's strong or not.

    而我們將看到它是否強大。

Claudia: When it comes to Greek yogurt, we may think

克勞迪婭:說到希臘酸奶,我們可能認為

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