Name: 蝙蝠俠對超人：根本性的缺陷 (Batman v Superman: The Fundamental Flaw)
Uploaded: 2022-05-18T03:15:31.000Z
Duration: 6 min 59 s

I'm putting together a team, but with special abilities, you see, I believe enemies are coming, stop right there.

我正在組建一支隊伍，但要有特殊的能力，你看，我相信敵人要來了，就停在那裡。

情態副詞

I'm in, you are now that the Justice League trailer is out and it has jokes, there's a lot of talk about DCs course correction as if the overly grim tone of batman V.

我在，你也在，現在《正義聯盟》的預告片出來了，而且有笑話，有很多關於DCs路線修正的討論，好像《蝙蝠俠5》的過於嚴峻的基調。

Superman was the key to why it wasn't that good of a movie.

超人是為什麼它不是那麼好的一部電影的關鍵。

But from my point of view, Zack Snyder could make Justice League an out and out comedy and it still wouldn't fix.

但在我看來，扎克-施奈德可以把《正義聯盟》拍成一部徹頭徹尾的喜劇，它仍然不能解決問題。

What I see is a more fundamental problem in his film making.

我看到的是他的電影製作中一個更根本的問題。

Something that's really apparent in batman versus Superman, his preoccupation, his obsession with moments, the expense of scenes.

在《蝙蝠俠與超人》中，有些東西真的很明顯，他的專注，他對瞬間的迷戀，對場景的犧牲。

Well, let me start by saying this movie moments are awesome.

好吧，讓我先說說這部電影的時刻是令人敬畏的。

A really great moment can be transcendent.

一個真正偉大的時刻可以是超越性的。

They can leave deep, lifelong visual impressions on a filmgoer.

它們可以給電影觀眾留下深刻的、終生的視覺印象。

They can come to represent a whole new category of feeling.

它們可以來代表一個全新的感覺類別。

That's why film geeks like me referenced them so much in conversation with friends when you're a film student, at least when I was a film student, that's what makes things exciting.

這就是為什麼像我這樣的電影極客在與朋友的談話中經常提到它們，當你是一個電影學生時，至少當我是一個電影學生時，這就是讓人興奮的原因。

Most of the student films I directed revolved around a few moments that I thought were going to blow people away.

我導演的大多數學生電影都圍繞著幾個我認為會讓人大吃一驚的時刻。

If I could just navigate the story there, that would be enough.

如果我可以在那裡為故事導航，那就足夠了。

The moment would do all the work, then I just navigate to the next one.

這一刻會做所有的工作，然後我只是導航到下一個。

For this reason my student films weren't that good Batman V.

由於這個原因，我的學生電影並不是那麼好的《蝙蝠俠五號》。

Superman, Dawn of Justice I think suffers from a similar problem.

超人，正義的黎明》我認為也存在著類似的問題。

Zack Snyder is obviously obsessed with moments.

The movie is chock full of the moments when time is slowed down and the composition is just right.

這部電影充滿了時間被放慢、構圖恰到好處的時刻。

Moments when the score swells in the film tries to broadcast a single message be off.

當電影中分數膨脹的時刻，試圖廣播一個單一的資訊是不可能的。

A lot of people talk about Snyder as a great visual stylist.

很多人都在談論斯奈德是一個偉大的視覺造型師。

That's where all the focus goes toward crafting moments.

這就是所有的焦點都朝向精心製作的時刻。

Of course they do, because all character motivations are subservient to the film's own motivation to reach the next moment.

當然，他們會這樣做，因為所有角色的動機都服從於電影本身的動機，以達到下一個時刻。

It makes sense then that Snyder puts extraordinary care into montages Twice in this film, the opening credits featuring Batman's origin story and at the 44 minute mark, spotlighting Superman's more impressive heroics.

是以，斯奈德在本片中兩次對蒙太奇進行了精心設計，開場字幕介紹了蝙蝠俠的起源故事，在44分鐘的時候，重點介紹了超人更令人印象深刻的英雄事蹟。

There's something like 40 shots in these montages together and they all came to be iconic.

這些蒙太奇中有大約40個鏡頭，它們都成為了標誌性的作品。

I think if Snyder could make a whole movie like this, he would, oh wait, he already did.

我想如果斯奈德能拍一整部這樣的電影，他會的，哦等等，他已經拍了。

It's also why he favors dream sequences and flashbacks.

這也是他為什麼偏愛夢境序列和倒敘的原因。

更多的藉口來展示更多的時刻。

Superman really lacks is Sean's actual scenes not just filler between moments.

超人真正缺乏的是肖恩的實際場景，而不僅僅是時刻之間的填充物。

The scenes are hard to define, since they're so malleable.

場景是很難定義的，因為它們是如此具有可塑性。

It's hard to say what one is, but what a good scene does is dissolved.

很難說一個人是什麼，但一個好的場景所做的是解散。

The actors in the soundstage and the costumes and makeup and camera angle into a living and breathing reality, there should be a strong sense of place, a feeling of possibility that the characters who inhabit the space could go anywhere within it.

音響舞臺上的演員和服裝、化妝和攝影機的角度變成了一個活生生的現實，應該有一種強烈的地方感，一種居住在這個空間裡的人物可以去任何地方的可能性。

Even if they don't, even if you know that the technicalities of lighting and blocking wouldn't let them.

即使他們不這樣做，即使你知道燈光和遮擋的技術問題不會讓他們這樣做。

In other words, the discrete elements that make up a good scene should not feel like they're in service to something else even though they are too often in batman V.

換句話說，構成一個好場景的離散元素不應該讓人覺得它們是為其他東西服務的，儘管它們在《蝙蝠俠5》中太常見了。

Superman, the characters feel awkwardly placed in their scenes.

超人，人物在場景中的位置感覺很突兀。

I mean, does anyone get the sense that Clark, Kent, Lois Lane or Perry White actually spend time as the daily planet.

我的意思是，有沒有人覺得克拉克、肯特、露易絲-萊恩或佩裡-懷特實際上是在花時間做每日行星。

We visit the daily planet eight times in the movie, but the longest scene there is only a minute and 11 seconds.

我們在電影中八次訪問了日常星球，但那裡最長的場景只有1分11秒。

The rest are under a minute and half are under 30 seconds.

其餘的都在1分鐘以內，一半在30秒以內。

It feels like a fraction of a location where people say things like this.

感覺就像人們說這種話的地方的一小部分。

When the planet was founded, it stood for something.

當這個星球成立時，它代表著什麼。

Perry the bat cave, Lewis and Clark's apartment, lex luthor's office, the Kryptonian ship all have the same issue.

佩裡的蝙蝠洞、劉易斯和克拉克的公寓、萊克斯-路德的辦公室、氪星的飛船都有同樣的問題。

And that's just about the extent of the settings that we visit more than once in the film.

而這只是我們在影片中不止一次訪問的環境的範圍。

What's more these scenes are filmed largely in medium shots, close ups or extreme close ups, which makes it even harder to ground the scenes or for the audience to ground itself within them.

更重要的是，這些場景主要是用中景、特寫或極度特寫拍攝的，這使得場景更難接地氣，也使觀眾更難在其中接地氣。

And in all these places we spend an awful lot of time looking at screens, there's also very little distinction between metropolis and Gotham the two cities that sculpted their respective heroes.

而在所有這些我們花了大量時間看螢幕的地方，大都市和哥譚這兩個雕塑了各自英雄的城市之間也沒有什麼區別。

If you're looking for a metaphor for the whole film.

如果你想為整部影片尋找一個隱喻。

Note the fact that one of the longest scenes takes place on an abandoned island between the two cities that the heroes completely destroyed.

請注意，其中一個最長的場景發生在英雄們完全摧毀的兩個城市之間的一個廢棄的小島上。

Building a good scene isn't only about location, it's about fitting the dialogue, the tone and the characters into that location and endowing it with a sense of duration Avengers, age of Ultron from last year, it isn't a perfect movie, but there's a great story about how josh Sweden fought to keep the hawkeye farmhouse scene in the film That slow paced confidence seen runs for a full 16 minutes, right in the middle of the action when you're there, you're not waiting to go somewhere else.

構建一個好的場景不僅僅是關於位置，它是關於將對話、語氣和人物融入那個位置，並賦予它一種持續時間的感覺 復仇者聯盟，去年的奧創時代，它不是一部完美的電影，但有一個偉大的故事，關於喬什-瑞典如何爭取將鷹眼農舍的場景保留在電影中 那個慢節奏的信心看到了整整16分鐘，就在行動的中間，當你在那裡，你不會等待去別的地方。

You're they're learning about the characters and when those characters have their moments later in the film, they land with poignancy.

你是他們在瞭解這些人物，當這些人物在影片中後來有他們的時刻時，他們的落腳點是淒涼的。

Almost all films, especially superhero blockbusters are going to have exposition al scenes and scenes that set up future action and in great movies, all the scenes often work together to participate in an overarching tone or a complex message.

幾乎所有的電影，尤其是超級英雄大片，都會有闡述性的場景和為未來行動做準備的場景，在偉大的電影中，所有的場景往往共同參與到一個總的基調或一個複雜的資訊中。

But great scenes function as their own little universes within a film.

但偉大的場景在電影中發揮著自己的小宇宙的作用。

And good movies should have plenty of them.

而好的電影應該有很多這樣的內容。

Batman V Superman runs for 2.5 hours with a heaping helping of big moments and yet I don't quite feel like I've been anywhere.

蝙蝠俠V超人》持續了2.5個小時，有大量的重要時刻，但我並不覺得我已經到了任何地方。

The scene is where aw is loaded into the chamber firing the gun without loading can only result in empty noise, a bang, but no impact.

現場是將aw裝入槍膛，在沒有裝彈的情況下開槍，只能造成空響，一聲巨響，但沒有影響。

I'm always hopeful about new superman movies because superman is so important to me, but I won't let some batman jokes and upbeat rock music fool me.

我對新的超人電影總是充滿希望，因為超人對我來說是如此重要，但我不會被一些蝙蝠俠的笑話和歡快的搖滾樂所欺騙。

Lightheartedness isn't the basic problem that needs to be fixed here.

輕鬆愉快並不是這裡需要解決的基本問題。

The overused and unearned moment is DCs greatest foe.

過度使用和不值錢的時刻是DC最大的敵人。

Hey guys, you know, I couldn't resist doing a video on Superman.

嘿，夥計們，你們知道，我忍不住要做一個關於超人的視頻。

Um there's a new nerd writer video every Wednesday.

嗯，每週三有一個新的書呆子作家視頻。

So if you go right there and click that and subscribe to this channel, you'll get all of them.

是以，如果你去那裡，點擊它並訂閱這個頻道，你會得到所有的內容。

I got to thank squarespace for helping to sponsor this video.

我得感謝squarespace幫助贊助這個視頻。

They helped to fund the channel without interfering in the content, which is just so awesome.

他們幫助資助該頻道而不干涉其內容，這實在是太了不起了。

Um They make sleek, intuitive websites, you don't have to know coding.

嗯 他們製作光滑、直觀的網站，你不需要知道編碼。

 If you sign up for a year, you can get a free domain name and if you use the offer code nerd writer at squarespace dot com, you can get 10% off your first purchase, which is cool if you want to make a website. 

如果你註冊一年，你可以得到一個免費的域名，如果你使用優惠代碼nerd writer at squarespace dot com，你可以得到首次購買的10%折扣，如果你想做一個網站，這很酷。