BBC Learning English. I'm Neil.

BBC學習英語。我是尼爾。

And I'm Sam.

而我是山姆。

When you were a teenager did your

當你還是個少年時，你是否

parents worry that you were watching

父母擔心你在看

too much television, Sam?

看太多電視了嗎，山姆？

They used to tell me that watching

他們曾經告訴我，看

too much TV would turn my eyes

太多的電視會使我的眼睛

square - but they were only joking.

正方形 - 但他們只是在開玩笑。

When I was growing up there were only

在我成長的過程中，只有

three or four television channels.

三個或四個電視頻道。

For parents today, there are

對於今天的父母來說，有

hundreds of TV channels to worry

數以百計的電視頻道讓人擔心

about, not to mention the internet,

關於，更不用說互聯網了。

video games and social media - and

視頻遊戲和社交媒體--以及

all of it is accessible through

所有這些都可以通過

a smart phone. No wonder parents

一部智能電話。難怪父母

are worried about the impact

擔心影響

of technology on young people!

技術對年輕人的影響!

I don t think it's all bad news,

我不認為這都是壞消息。

Neil. In fact, in this programme,

尼爾。事實上，在這個節目中。

we'll be taking a look at a new

我們將看一下一個新的

report which finds little

的報告，其中發現幾乎沒有

evidence to link technology with

證據表明，將技術與

mental health problems in

精神病患者的精神健康問題

adolescents - that's young people

青少年--也就是年輕人

who are in the process of

的人正在進行的

developing from children

來自兒童的發展

into adults.

成年人。

I'm not convinced, Sam. Think

我不相信，山姆。思考

about how much time youngsters

關於年輕人有多少時間

spend staring at

花時間盯著

screens every day.

每天都有螢幕。

True, but unlike passively

誠然，但與被動的不同

watching television today's

今天看電視的人

technology is interactive,

技術是互動的。

connecting teenagers to their

將青少年與他們的

friends around the world.

世界各地的朋友。

Well, maybe my quiz question

好吧，也許我的測驗問題

will change your mind. Are you

將改變你的想法。你是否

ready? On average how many

準備好了嗎？平均有多少

hours per day do British

英國人每天做多少小時？

teenagers spend on their

青少年花在他們的

screens? Is it:

螢幕？是的。

a) 5 and a half hours?

a) 5個半小時？

b) 6 and a half hours? or

b) 6個半小時？ 或

c) 7 and a half hours?

c) 7個半小時？

I'll say it's b) 6 and

我就說是b) 6和

a half hours.

一個半小時。

That sounds a lot to me!

對我來說，這聽起來很重要!

Well, whatever Neil thinks, a new

好吧，不管尼爾怎麼想，一個新的

study from the Oxford Internet

牛津大學互聯網研究中心的研究報告

Institute paints a more hopeful

研究所描繪了一個更有希望的

picture. The study analysed data

圖片。該研究分析了數據

from over 400,000 British and

來自400,000多名英國和

American teenagers and found little

美國青少年，發現幾乎沒有

or no link between adolescents'

或與青少年之間沒有聯繫

tech use and mental health problems.

技術使用和心理健康問題。

Listen to Gareth Mitchell and Ghislaine

聆聽加雷思-米切爾和吉斯萊恩的講話

Boddington, co-presenters of BBC World

英國廣播公司世界頻道的聯合主持人博丁頓

Service's, Digital Planet, as

服務的，數字星球，作為

they discuss the report's findings:

他們討論了該報告的調查結果。

Ghislaine Boddington - you've been

Ghislaine Boddington - 你已經被

looking at some of the findings

看看一些調查結果

yourself, haven't you? So, what's

你自己，不是嗎？那麼，什麼是

your response so far? Were you

你到目前為止的反應是什麼？你是否

expecting, Ghislaine, to see

期待著，吉斯萊恩，看到

some kind of smoking gun?

某種吸菸槍？

Some kind of link that would

某種聯繫，將

say, Here we are.

說，我們來了。

Here are the harms?

這裡的危害是什麼？

Not really, because I think

並非如此，因為我認為

we're at a point where teenagers

我們正處在一個青少年

are much more savvy than many

比許多人更精明

adults think, so we are at risk,

成人認為，所以我們有風險。

all of us as journalists and

我們所有的新聞工作者和

research community to assume,

研究界承擔。

maybe, this is a more a terrible

也許，這更像是一個可怕的

terrible problem than we understand

比我們瞭解的更可怕的問題

because I know the teenagers

因為我認識那些青少年

around me and one thing that

在我周圍，有一件事

they do all have is app blockers

他們確實都有應用程序阻止器

on their sites and they are

在他們的網站上，他們是

actually quite aware of the

其實很清楚

addiction problem - the

成癮問題------。

design - you know, designed

設計 - 你知道，設計

for addiction.

為成癮。

Many people assume that social

許多人認為，社會

media harms teenagers, so

媒體傷害了青少年，所以

Gareth asks Ghislaine whether

Gareth問Ghislaine是否

she was expecting to find a

她期望能找到一個

smoking gun in the report.

報告中的吸菸槍。

The expression a smoking gun

表達方式是一把煙槍

means evidence that proves

是指能證明的證據

something is true, for example,

比如說，有些事情是真的。

evidence proving that technology

證明技術的證據

is harmful to young people.

是對年輕人有害的。

But Ghislaine doesn't think

但吉斯萊恩不認為

this is true. Actually, she

這是真的。實際上，她

calls teenagers savvy, meaning

稱青少年為精明的人，意思是

that they have practical

他們有實際的

knowledge of technology and

技術知識和

a good understanding of

很瞭解

how to use it.

如何使用它。

One example of teenagers

青少年的一個例子

being technologically savvy is

精通技術是

their use of app blockers - software

他們使用的應用程序阻止者--軟件

that prevents unwanted apps

防止不需要的應用程序

and websites from popping up

和網站的彈出

and allows users to set

並允許用戶設置

timers which limit screen time.

限制螢幕時間的定時器。

And reducing screen time is

而減少螢幕時間是

important because nowadays most

重要，因為現在大多數

video games and social media

視頻遊戲和社交媒體

are designed for addiction

是為成癮而設計的

intended to manipulate human

旨在操縱人類

psychology to make the user

心理學，使用戶

want to keep playing.

想繼續玩下去。

But it seems that today's

但似乎今天的

adolescents are savvy enough

青春期的孩子們足夠精明

to know how to use electronic

要知道如何使用電子

devices sensibly. How else

器件的合理性。否則如何

can we explain the fact

我們能不能解釋一下這個事實

that, according to this

據此

research, there's no clear

研究，沒有明確的

link between using tech

使用技術之間的聯繫

and mental health problems?

和精神健康問題？

Yes, that's certainly the view

是的，這當然是一種觀點

of the research team leader,

的研究小組組長。

Dr Matti Vuorre. Here he is

馬蒂-武爾雷博士。在這裡，他是

speaking with BBC World Service

在接受BBC世界頻道採訪時說

programme, Digital Planet, about

節目，數字星球，關於

an interesting and very modern

一個有趣的和非常現代的

term - see if you can hear it:

術語 - 看看你是否能聽到它。

We often hear the term, digital

我們經常聽到這樣的說法，數字

native, you know you grow up

本地人，你知道你長大了

with a device in your hand almost,

與你手中的設備幾乎。

and then it's not a surprise that

然後，這並不奇怪

you are skilled in using

你能熟練地使用

those technologies to your benefit.

這些技術對你有利。

Did you hear the expression

你有沒有聽到這樣的說法

Dr Vuorre used, Sam?

Vuorre醫生用過，Sam?

Yes. He called teenagers digital

是的，他叫青少年數字

natives, meaning someone who is

土著人，指的是那些屬於

very familiar and comfortable

非常熟悉和舒適

using computers and digital

使用計算機和數字

technology because they've

技術，因為他們已經

grown up with them.

和他們一起長大的。

So maybe there are benefits to

是以，也許有好處的是

spending hours looking at screens,

花幾個小時看螢幕。

after all. In my quiz question I

畢竟。在我的問答題中，我

asked Sam about the average daily

向薩姆詢問了每日平均

screen time for British teenagers.

英國青少年的螢幕時間。

I said it was b) 6 and a half hours.

我說是b）6個半小時。

Which was the correct answer!

這就是正確的答案!

Very savvy of you, Sam! OK,

你很精明，薩姆!好的。

let's recap the vocabulary from

讓我們來回顧一下來自的詞彙

this programme about the impact

這個節目的影響

of tech on adolescents - that's

對青少年的技術 - 這是

young people who are

的年輕人，他們

developing into adults.

發展成為成年人。

Today's adolescents are digital

今天的青少年是數字化的

natives people who are very

屬於非常有活力的本地人。

familiar with digital technology

熟悉數字技術

because they've grown up with it.

因為他們是在這種情況下長大的。

If you are savvy, you have a

如果你是精明的，你有一個

good practical

良好的實用性

understanding of something.

對某些事物的理解。

A smoking gun refers to information

冒煙的槍指的是資訊

or evidence that proves

或證明的證據

that something is true.

某種東西是真實的。

An app blocker is software that

應用程序阻止器是一種軟件，可以

blocks pop-up apps and websites

阻止彈出式應用程序和網站

and allows users to

並允許用戶

set screen time limits.

設置螢幕時間限制。

And designed for addiction

併為成癮而設計

describes immersive video games

描述沉浸式視頻遊戲

and social media which are

和社交媒體，這些都是

designed to manipulate human

旨在操縱人類

psychology and make it hard

心理，並使之成為難點

to stop playing.

來停止遊戲。

That's all for this programme

本節目到此結束

but if you're interested in the issues

但如果你對這些問題感興趣

around digital technology and want to

圍繞數字技術，希望

find out more, then why visit the

瞭解更多，那麼為什麼要訪問

BBC Digital Planet website or

BBC數字星球網站或

follow them on their Twitter

在他們的Twitter上關注他們

handle @digitalplanet?

handle @digitalplanet?

Bye for now!

暫時再見

Goodbye!

再見!