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  • It's almost kind of like a blank canvas with some, like some texture.


  • I do see a white dot there, but that's... I don't know if that's supposed to be there.

    我看到了一些白點,但是... 我不知道這些白點是不是本來就是作品的一部分。

  • It looks like something I would cook on, like a baking sheet.


  • Could be a lot of flies stuck to a bit of paper.


  • Yeah, 'cause I would put this down on my floor. My floor tiles.


  • These people are describing Robert Ryman's painting "Bridge."

    這些人口中描述的是 Robert Ryman 的繪畫作品《橋梁》。

  • It sold for $20.6 million at a Christie's auction in 2015.

    這幅畫在 2015 年時於一場佳士得拍賣會上以兩億零六百萬美元的價格賣出。

  • How is an all-white painting considered art, and why would anyone shell out millions for something like this?


  • There are a lot of these "white paintings."


  • Many people trace them back to Kazimir Malevich's 1918 work "White on White."

    許多人認為 Kazimir Malevich 在 1918 年所創作的《白上加白》是一切的濫觴。

  • But there are many artists who created these kinds of paintings: Agnes Martin, Jo Baer, Josef Albers.

    但還有許多其他的藝術家們也創作了這樣的畫作:Agnes Martin、Jo Baer、Josef Albers。

  • Most of these artists were associated with an art movement called Minimalism, which emerged in the late 1950s.

    其中大多數的藝術家都與一個在 1950 年代末興起,叫做極簡主義的藝術運動有關。

  • When I say the Minimalists I mean Minimalism with a capital M, not a lowercase.


  • This is Elisabeth Sherman, she's an assistant curator at the Whitney Museum in New York.

    這位是 Elisabeth Sherman,他是紐約惠特尼美術館的助理策展人。

  • It's tempting to look at one of these paintings and think that some jerk just took a tube of white paint and spread it on a canvasbut it's not actually that easy.


  • I mean mine rules, obviously, because I'm a f****** genius, but there's usually a lot more than meets the eye.

    對我而言顯然是輕輕鬆鬆啦,畢竟我可是個他 O 的天才,不過這樣的作品其實潛藏著比看起來更多的意涵。

  • White isn't really a pure thing. White is always tinted in some way. Paint is made up of a variety of pigments.


  • If you've ever painted the walls of your house, you know how many different whites there are to choose from.


  • And maybe if you only look at one it looks like pure white, but when you hold them up in an array you can see the subtle differences.


  • It's blue, it's green, it's purple, it's warm, it's cold.


  • And when you get close


  • Hey!


  • Not too close. There's a lot going on here.


  • Lines, texture, patterns, even color.


  • There are a lot of subtle intricacies that make it more than "just a white canvas."


  • Minimalist artists wanted their work to embody order, simplicity, and harmony.


  • These artists began with these ideas as a rejection of abstract expressionism.


  • Abstract expressionism was a movement of artists in the 1940s and 50s, who thought that art should be gestural, expressive, and emotional, evoking the unconscious mind through movement and color.

    抽象表現主義是一群藝術家在 1940 到 1950 年代時發起的藝術風格,他們認為藝術應該要飽含動作、表現自我且情感豐沛,藉此以行動與色彩激發出潛意識中的想法。

  • So if we think about Jackson Pollock as being kind of the abstract expressionist that many people think of,

    例如 Jackson Pollock 這位許多人講到抽象表現主義便會想到的藝術家,

  • you can take that picture of him with the canvas on the floor of his studio, spilling paints everywhere,


  • and it's his gesture, it's his physical body, it's his arm, it's who he is as a person that's creating that canvas, that painting.


  • Minimalists weren't about that.


  • All that paint splashing everywhere?


  • No thanks.


  • And there was a lot of desire to get away from that sensibility where the individual's expression was put into the canvas.


  • The idea was that the art objectbe it sculpture or painting or installationshould kind of be as far removed from the author as possible.


  • You can see what she means when you compare the two schools of art. Abstract expressionism. Minimalism.


  • Okay, you get it.


  • Minimalist artists stripped art of the burden of being about "something else."


  • They presented art not as an imitation of reality, but as an object unto itself.


  • Artist Frank Stella summed it up nicely when he said, "What you see is what you see."

    藝術家 Frank Stella 用了一種很棒的方法作結:「見山便是山。」

  • One of my favorite things about modern art is the rage that it seems to provoke in some people.


  • Cue videos of men freaking out:


  • I'm not gonna sit there and try to find a meaning in a red circle on a blank white canvas, 'cause I'm not gonna find any meaning!


  • I may not understand art but I do understand the English language, and that's pretentious nonsense.


  • Did you see the painting that was just a white painting that had nothing on it?


  • It's like super pretentious meets uber pretentious.


  • Modern art sets people off, and believe me when I say that I am here for it.


  • But with modern art, by definition every interpretation is genuine and legitimate and okay.


  • Or not! How about not?


  • I love it.


  • There's even an entire play about a group of lifelong friends who are torn apart when one of them buys an all-white painting for $200,000.


  • With a very kind of absent blank painting, you have to do a lot more work in some ways than maybe you have to do with, let's say, pop art that has tons of obvious references,


  • and you see the Coca-Cola or the American flag and you can say, I have all of these relationships with these objects with these brands with these things.


  • Um, when you're looking at simply a square of white paint, you have to do a lot more work, but sometimes there maybe is something more rewarding in the end.


  • Another common reaction to modern art, specifically minimalist pieces like white paintings is, c'mon, say it with me now,


  • "I could do that!". Good.


  • Almost no matter what show I've worked on in my career, somebody has said that.


  • While there is a lot of skill in a lot of modern and contemporary art, there's also a lot of art that is more about the idea than it is about skill.


  • And so yes, you could do it, but you didn't.


  • Damn, Elisabeth.


  • And that may sound obnoxious or flip, but the reality is is that once art begins to live just as much in the mind as it does in the eye,


  • you have to bring your ideas as well as your physical construction of the work.


  • White paintings are a fascinating kind of Rorschach test.


  • They offer viewers an ambiguous, I'm so sorry, but, canvas to project their own interpretations, emotions, beliefs, and stories onto.

    他們提供觀眾一種曖昧的畫布 (我很抱歉),讓它們將自己的詮釋、情感、信仰與故事投射出來。

  • So if looking at a white painting makes you feel angry or excited or soothed, those are all valid responses.


  • But take a moment to think about why that was your response.


  • It's very easy to be dismissive of things that we're not immediately attracted to.


  • So if you have a kind of negative gut reaction, one of defensiveness or fear or anxiety or rejection, maybe try to move past that and see what's available afterwards.


  • And it doesn't have to change your mind, but it's sometimes the process of working through that reaction that you learn the most both about the work, but also about yourself.


It's almost kind of like a blank canvas with some, like some texture.


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