I was the hand double for Meryl Streep in this film.

在這部影片中，我是梅麗爾-斯特里普的替身。

So in the black and white segments, those are actually my hands.

所以在黑白片段中，那些其實是我的手。

I had on Meryl Streep swatch and her shirt and that's me sewing up the duck.

我穿的是梅麗爾-斯特里普的樣衣和她的襯衫，那是我在縫製鴨子。

Hey, Vanity fair.

嘿，《名利場》。

I'm Susan sponge in today.

我是蘇珊-海綿在今天。

I'll be reviewing food styling in tv and film.

我將回顧電視和電影中的食品造型。

Mhm.

嗯。

This next clip is from The Princess Diaries.

接下來的這個片段來自《公主日記》。

Very exciting.

非常令人興奮。

Thank you.

謝謝你。

In any situation, ice cream is definitely the hardest thing to shoot whether or not this is real ice cream or sorbet is is an open question because they're eating.

在任何情況下，冰淇淋絕對是最難拍攝的東西，無論這是否是真正的冰淇淋或冰糕是一個開放的問題，因為他們正在吃。

You would have to make something that looks like sorbet but doesn't melt.

你必須做一些看起來像冰糕但不融化的東西。

You also could just keep resetting the scene.

你也可以只是不斷地重設場景。

But it would be ideal to have something that that doesn't melt because by the time you started shooting it could be melting.

但最理想的是有一種不會融化的東西，因為當你開始拍攝時，它可能已經融化了。

She didn't realize it was frozen.

她沒有意識到它被凍結了。

If it was me, I would do everything in my power to create something that looked like what they wanted it to look like.

如果是我，我會盡我所能，創造出像他們希望的那樣的東西。

But also could be edible for the actors and you know, it can't be like Crisco which is a common way to make fake ice cream because they're eating it.

但也可以讓演員們食用，你知道，它不能像Crisco那樣是製作假冰激凌的常見方法，因為他們在吃。

It's very possible.

這是很有可能的。

It's actual story bay because I did see a little bit of melt around the edge in the bull like monkeys.

這是實際的故事灣，因為我確實看到在公牛的邊緣有一點融化，像猴子一樣。

This scene is from Matilda.

這個場景來自《瑪蒂爾達》。

Mhm This cake really had to have a lot of screen presence smells chocolatey a in one way that they did, that was just by making it huge.

這個蛋糕真的必須有大量的螢幕存在感，有巧克力的味道，他們做到了，那就是把它做得很大。

It's a really, really big cake.

這是一個非常、非常大的蛋糕。

I don't want any thank you.

我不想要任何感謝。

It looks to me like it was just made in giant wedding cake pans and also they're using camera angles to make it look even bigger and scary actually.

在我看來，它只是用巨大的婚禮蛋糕盤做的，而且他們還用攝影機的角度使它看起來更大，實際上很可怕。

It's hard to make something like chocolate look unappealing or unappetizing part of what's helping that is that you can see that the actor doesn't want to eat it.

要讓巧克力這樣的東西看起來不討人喜歡或沒有胃口，有一部分原因是你可以看到演員不想吃它。

But they've also tried to make the cake just look um kind of just really messy and sloppy and then the cook is wiping her nose so it just seems kind of disgusting and very like kind of sloppily made when you see an actor on screen eating or seeming to eat a lot.

但他們也試圖讓蛋糕看起來嗯，真的很亂，很邋遢，然後廚師在擦她的鼻子，所以當你看到螢幕上的演員在吃東西或似乎吃了很多東西時，它看起來有點噁心，非常像一種馬虎的製作。

You'll know that they cut away a lot and there are plenty of opportunities for the actor to spit out the food, which is often what they have to do.

你會知道他們切掉了很多，有很多機會讓演員把食物吐出來，這往往是他們不得不做的。

I can't usually you want the actors to eat as little as possible unless they want to eat it.

我不能通常你希望演員儘可能少吃，除非他們想吃。

This next film is eat, pray love.

接下來的這部電影是《吃，祈禱愛》。

Working on eat, pray love was definitely an adventure.

在 "吃，祈禱愛 "方面的工作絕對是一次冒險。

We did not have a set kitchen and we were really shooting on location in Rome and if you've ever been to Rome, you know the streets are small and only a couple of trucks were allowed to get near the set and a food truck was not one of them.

我們沒有一個固定的廚房，我們真的是在羅馬拍攝的，如果你去過羅馬，你知道街道很小，只有幾輛卡車被允許接近拍攝現場，而餐車不是其中之一。

In this case the pasta would have been pretty warm because the doors that you see behind her, that's where the kitchen was and I was right inside.

在這種情況下，意大利麵應該是很溫暖的，因為你在她身後看到的門，那是廚房，我就在裡面。

And so I would have tried to plate this as freshly as possible for this scene.

是以，我本來想在這個場景中儘可能地把這個盤子裝得很新鮮。

I don't believe that they specified the kind of pasta and I just wanted something simple and iconic because this scene was all about her deciding to give into her impulses and just live life.

我不相信他們指定了麵食的種類，我只是想要一些簡單和標誌性的東西，因為這一幕是關於她決定屈服於她的衝動，只是生活。

But I didn't really understand how important this scene was going to be until I saw the final edit and I think we did it with one plate of pasta and then they said, okay, we're done.

但我並沒有真正理解這場戲有多重要，直到我看到最後的剪輯，我想我們用一盤意大利麵就完成了，然後他們說，好了，我們完成了。

We're rapper, moving on to the next location.

我們是說唱歌手，正在向下一個地點前進。

Company moved, they say, so you clean up and you throw everything away and they were like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

公司搬家了，他們說，所以你打掃衛生，把所有東西都扔掉，他們就說，等一下，等一下。

We need to shoot um an insert.

我們需要拍攝嗯一個插件。

It just was the parmesan cheese falling on the pasta as much as I hated taking it out of the trash.

只是帕爾馬乾酪掉在了意大利麵上，就像我討厭把它從垃圾桶裡拿出來一樣。

I took it out of the trash.

我把它從垃圾桶裡拿出來。

I re plated it and we did the parmesan cheese falling on the pasta.

我把它重新裝盤，我們做了帕爾馬乾酪落在意大利麵上。

But don't worry, I didn't feed Julia roberts pasta that had been in the trash.

但別擔心，我沒有給朱莉婭-羅伯茨餵食垃圾桶裡的意大利麵。

This is Sex in the city.

這就是 "城市中的性"。

The truth is, you wouldn't prep any differently for this scene as you would for sushi that was sitting on a table.

事實是，你為這個場景所做的準備與你為坐在桌子上的壽司所做的準備沒有任何區別。

It looks like it's real sushi on a real body.

它看起來是真正的壽司在一個真正的身體上。

She probably also had certain modesty garments on underneath the sushi more likely than not the prop team ordered sushi from a restaurant and they probably wouldn't have brought a sushi chef on set because it's pretty easy thing to source.

她可能還在壽司下面穿了某些謙虛的衣服，更有可能的是，道具組從一家餐館訂購了壽司，他們可能不會把壽司廚師帶到片場，因為這是很容易找到的東西。

They probably had trays and trays of it in the refrigerator because it might have taken multiple takes to get the shots that they needed.

他們可能在冰箱裡放了一盤又一盤，因為可能需要多次拍攝才能得到他們需要的鏡頭。

Yeah, 40 minutes later, Sushi Samantha still no smith.

是的，40分鐘後，Sushi Samantha仍然沒有鐵匠。

If they have to eat, what do they want to eat?

如果他們不得不吃，他們想吃什麼？

That becomes almost the most important part of a scene like this.

這幾乎成為這樣一個場景中最重要的部分。

I got Wasabi in places where one should never get Wasabi.

我在不應該得到Wasabi的地方得到了Wasabi。

This next scene is from julie and Julia.

接下來的這一幕來自《朱莉和朱莉婭》。

You may think that boning a duck is an impossible feat.

你可能認為給鴨子剔骨是一項不可能的壯舉。

I was the food stylist on julie and Julia.

我是《朱莉與朱莉婭》的食品造型師。

Don't be afraid no fear Julia.

不要害怕沒有恐懼朱莉婭。

We had a sort of makeshift kitchen right on the stage.

我們在舞臺上有一個臨時的廚房。

It was actually a little bit difficult because we couldn't make any noise while the cameras were rolling down the buck of the bird all the way from the neck to expose the back pole.

這實際上有點困難，因為當攝影機從鳥的頸部一路滾動到露出後杆時，我們不能發出任何聲音。

Is it hard to bone a duck?

給鴨子接骨很難嗎？

Well, it isn't the easiest thing in the world.

嗯，這並不是世界上最容易的事情。

You disgusting.

你真讓人噁心。

Oh, maybe the eggs aren't fresh Julia says the eggs have to be fresh.

哦，也許雞蛋不新鮮，茱莉亞說雞蛋必須是新鮮的。

They are fresh.

它們是新鮮的。

If you watch the film closely, you'll realize that amy Adams is actually doing most of the cooking.

如果你仔細看這部電影，你會發現，其實大部分的烹飪工作都是由艾米-亞當斯來完成的。

I teach her some basic knife skills, chopping and peeling onions and cracking eggs just to kind of get her more comfortable in the kitchen.

我教她一些基本的刀法，切洋蔥、剝洋蔥和打雞蛋，只是為了讓她在廚房裡更舒服。

We had live lobsters because there was a scene where she had to actually pick up live lobsters.

我們有活的龍蝦，因為有一場戲，她必須真的拿起活龍蝦。

And yes, they were real live lobsters.

是的，他們是真正的活龍蝦。

It looks just like yours.

它看起來就像你的。

I was the hand double for Meryl Streep in this film.

在這部影片中，我是梅麗爾-斯特里普的替身。

So in the black and white segments, those are actually my hands I had on Meryl Streep swatch and her shirt and that's me sewing up the duck in the wide shots.

是以，在黑白片段中，那些實際上是我的手，我在梅麗爾-斯特里普的拭子和她的襯衫上，那是我在廣角鏡頭中縫製的鴨子。

Merrill is doing a few things but you don't see the more intricate parts.

梅里爾正在做一些事情，但你沒有看到更復雜的部分。

And then I was trusting the O.

然後我在信任O。

T.

T.

Allen Armand and it fell on the floor.

艾倫-阿曼德和它掉在了地上。

You always have to have a lot of backups for resetting.

你總是要有大量的備份來進行重置。

I think we had eight of those actual finished ducks for the dinner party.

我想我們有八隻這樣的實際成品鴨子參加晚宴。

I mean it's not like a super expensive items, believe it or not, that would affect how many you get.

我的意思是它不像一個超級昂貴的物品，信不信由你，這將影響你得到多少。

If it's something that's kind of cheap, you might just get 10 just to have them.

如果是那種很便宜的東西，你可能就會為了擁有它們而買10個。

But if it becomes expensive, I mean you do always have a budget that you're working with so you don't want to be wasting money.

但是，如果它變得昂貴，我的意思是你總是有一個預算，你正在工作，所以你不想浪費錢。

I have to bone a whole duck when at some point this next scene is from Emily in paris oh this steak isn't cooked at all.

我必須給一整隻鴨子剔骨，當在某些時候，這下一個場景是在巴黎的艾米麗哦，這個牛排根本就沒有熟。

Um mm Excuse me, pardon, monsieur in this scene.

呃......對不起，請原諒，先生在這個場景中。

We are to believe that Emily has received a steak that is very rare but you never see the steak, you barely see the food.

我們要相信，艾米麗收到了一份非常罕見的牛排，但你從來沒有看到過牛排，你幾乎沒有看到過食物。

So it's it's totally the actors reactions and the dialogue that is giving context to the food and we're just kind of buying it.

是以，完全是演員的反應和對話在為食物提供背景，而我們只是有點相信它。

Is there a problem?

有問題嗎？

No, no, I love it.

不，不，我喜歡它。

Everything is perfect.

一切都很完美。

You haven't touched it.

你沒有碰過它。

The fact that there's no real close up of the food in the scene tells you that they're not really so concerned about the food.

場景中沒有真正的食物特寫，這告訴你，他們對食物並不那麼關心。

I'd be happy to burn it for you.

我很樂意為你燒掉它。

But promise me you'll try it first.

但答應我你會先試一試。

Yeah, try his.

是的，試試他的。

Meet Emily.

認識艾米麗。

It's much more about the dialogue and the characters and even the humor of the scene.

它更多的是關於對話和人物，甚至是場景的幽默感。

Nothing is real.

沒有什麼是真實的。

I mean, the way that this chef, it comes out of a small little bistro kitchen perfectly clean and his sleeves are rolled up on his biceps.

我的意思是，這個廚師的方式，它從一個小的小酒館廚房出來，非常乾淨，他的袖子卷在二頭肌上。

I mean, it's just it's definitely not real.

我的意思是，這只是它肯定不是真實的。

It's all there to serve the story and it's not about the food.

這一切都為故事服務，與食物無關。

I knew you'd like it if you give it a chance.

我知道如果你給它一個機會，你會喜歡它。

Next up eat, drink, man, woman, this is probably one of the best cooking scenes ever shot.

接下來是吃、喝、男人、女人，這可能是有史以來拍攝的最佳烹飪場景之一。

You see so much real, real food here.

你在這裡看到這麼多真實的、真正的食物。

This is an expert chef.

這是一個專家級的廚師。

It's the very beginning of the film.

這是影片的最開始。

So it's the introduction to the character and the story and this this is how it all starts and you are immediately just drawn into the rhythmic cooking that's going on.

是以，這是人物和故事的介紹，這就是一切的開始，你立即被吸引到正在進行的有節奏的烹飪中。

There are so many different actions in this scene and any action is more difficult to shoot because you only get one chance and then if you didn't get it you have to just reset and do it again.

這場戲有很多不同的動作，任何動作都比較難拍，因為你只有一次機會，然後如果你沒有拍到，你就必須重新設置，再拍一次。

Mhm.

嗯。

A scene like this would have taken a long time to shoot.

像這樣的場景會花很長時間來拍攝。

It would all be charted out on a shooting schedule.

這一切都會在拍攝時間表上標明。

So the person doing the food would know what to have prepared and when all of those kind of things would kind of dictate how you would source your ingredients and how to basically prep your job is the food style is to be ready.

是以，做食物的人會知道要準備什麼，什麼時候準備，所有這些事情都會決定你如何採購你的成分，以及如何基本上準備你的工作，就是食物的風格是要準備好。

I never want to keep this very huge and expensive crew waiting.

我從來不想讓這個非常龐大和昂貴的工作人員等待。

This next scene is from inglorious bastards and I stopped our only like them.

接下來的這一幕是來自不光彩的混蛋，我停止了我們只喜歡他們。

This scene is very interesting.

這個場景非常有趣。

It's part of this long, uncomfortable conversation between these two characters and they go to the trouble of showing you how beautiful and delicious this apple strudel is.

這是這兩個人物之間漫長的、不舒服的對話的一部分，他們不厭其煩地向你展示這個蘋果餡餅是多麼美麗和美味。

Mhm mhm, upgrade the whole point of kind of building the strudel up was to show how menacing a character he is because in the end he thinks nothing of putting out his cigarette on the strudel.

Mhm mhm, 升級的整個要點是要表明他是一個多麼有威脅性的人物，因為最後他想都沒想就把他的煙滅在了餡餅上。

That's a swell.

那是一種膨脹。

This is a really good example of food sort of playing a character in a scene because you know, it was there to really tell you something, it was no accident that you saw these loving close ups of the struggle and the cream just so they could show you a close up of the cigarette at the end.

這是食物在場景中扮演角色的一個非常好的例子，因為你知道，它在那裡是為了真正告訴你一些東西，你看到這些充滿愛意的掙扎和奶油的特寫並不是偶然的，只是為了讓他們在最後給你看一個香菸的特寫。

This next scene is from Marie Antoinette.

接下來的這個場景來自《瑪麗-安託瓦內特》。

The Asparagus tower is very central visually in the scene and in the 18th century food was both of decoration and something to eat.

蘆筍塔在視覺上是非常中心的場景，在18世紀，食物既是裝飾，也是吃的東西。

It just sort of really helps set the scene and it sort of adds to like the absurdity of what we think of as Marie Antoinette let them eat cake.

它只是有點真正幫助設置場景，它有點像我們認為的瑪麗-安託瓦內特讓他們吃蛋糕的荒謬性。

The idea is to sort of find this sweet spot between historical correctness and theatricality to help tell the story and paint a picture.

我們的想法是在歷史正確性和戲劇性之間找到這個甜蜜點，以幫助講述故事和描繪畫面。

Everything is just kind of pretty and flouncy and roughly and and so are the clothes.

所有的東西都是那種漂亮的、飄逸的、粗糙的，而且衣服也是如此。

So it's all of a piece.

所以這都是一個整體。

This next scene is from the grand Budapest hotel.

接下來的這個場景來自布達佩斯大飯店。

This was also when I met Agatha from what I understand about the way wes Anderson works, there sort of elements of reality and fantasy kind of interwoven together.

這也是我認識阿加莎的時候，據我對韋斯-安德森作品的理解，現實和幻想的元素交織在一起。

And I think these pastries are kind of a perfect example of that when trying to figure out what exactly a pastry like this might look like in the film.

而我認為這些糕點是一種完美的例子，當試圖弄清楚像這樣的糕點在電影中到底會是什麼樣子。

Most likely you might start with sketches, they would have auditioned different versions of the pastry since it's so important.

最有可能的是，你可能會從草圖開始，他們會對不同版本的糕點進行試鏡，因為它是如此重要。

It's really like almost like a character in these scenes.

在這些場景中，它真的就像幾乎是一個角色。

Not only was Agatha immensely skilled with a palette knife and a buttercream flourish, she was also very brave in a case like this where the pastries are just set dressing, I would do whatever I had to do to make these indestructible and last as long as possible out of this boil.

阿加莎不僅對調色刀和奶油蛋糕的技巧無比嫻熟，而且在這樣的情況下，她還非常勇敢，因為在這種情況下，糕點只是設定好的敷料，我會不惜一切代價使這些東西堅不可摧，並儘可能地在這種沸騰中持續。

Mendel's is the best.

孟德爾的是最好的。

This next scene is from crazy rich asians forget about these girls camp out here in order room service.

接下來的這一幕來自《瘋狂的亞洲富豪》，忘記了這些女孩在這裡露營，訂購客房服務。

It's highly likely that these two shots were shot at different times.

這兩個鏡頭極有可能是在不同時間拍攝的。

If there's no reason to have the actors in the room with this probably smelly fish, why would you, I would think even for the film crew, they would have tried to keep the smells to a minimum.

如果沒有理由讓演員在房間裡和這種可能很臭的魚在一起，你為什麼要這樣做，我想即使是電影攝製組，他們也會盡量把氣味降到最低。

You wouldn't really want like smelly rotten fish in the room with the crew.

你不會真的想讓像發臭的爛魚一樣的船員在房間裡。

This definitely looks like a real fish and this scene to me, the guts and blood are probably fake, but you never know it could be anything, it could be paper towels soaked in fake blood.

在我看來，這絕對是一條真正的魚，這個場景，內臟和血液可能是假的，但你永遠不知道它可能是任何東西，它可能是紙巾浸泡在假血中。

This is sometimes where the special effects department would actually get involved.

這有時是特效部門真正參與的地方。

Usually they can create like fake gross stuff that isn't as gross as it looks.

通常他們可以創造出像假的噁心的東西，並不像看起來那樣噁心。

Next up is Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory hurry up.

接下來是《威利-旺卡和巧克力工廠》，快點。

Violet, Wait grandpa, each of those props that you see all of the supposed candy in the garden and they're going crazy over it.

紫羅蘭，等等爺爺，每個人的道具，你看到的都是花園裡的所謂糖果，他們為之瘋狂。

If you look at it, it really, it just looks like plastic and vinyl.

如果你看它，它真的，它只是看起來像塑膠和乙烯基。

It more creates this fantasy world and if you look closely at what they're doing, they just opened up one of these plastic mushrooms and put something inside and even the chocolate waterfall doesn't really look like chocolate.

它更多地創造了這個幻想的世界，如果你仔細看看他們在做什麼，他們只是打開了這些塑膠蘑菇中的一個，在裡面放了一些東西，甚至巧克力瀑布看起來也不是真的巧克力。

It just looks like brown water, You've ruined your watershed one cup.

它只是看起來像棕色的水，你已經毀了你的分水嶺的一個杯子。

It's polluted is chocolate.

它的汙染是巧克力。

None of it really looks like food or really like anything but you kind of buy it.

這些東西看起來都不像食物，也不像任何東西，但你有點買賬。

And again, the actors reactions are having a big effect on how you interpret the scene.

而且，演員的反應對你如何解釋這個場景有很大影響。

Next up is the founder robbery speed.

接下來是創始人的搶劫速度。

That's the name of the game.

這就是遊戲的名稱。

The first stop for every Mcdonald's hamburger is the grill.

每個麥當勞漢堡包的第一站都是烤架。

I feel like this scene is very successful because I really did feel like I was in that kitchen back in the first Mcdonald's because it really showed you a lot of detail behind the scenes berger crossing.

我覺得這個場景非常成功，因為我真的感覺到我是在第一個麥當勞的那個廚房裡，因為它真的向你展示了很多幕後的細節berger crossing。

You see hamburgers that were clearly made by hand.

你看到的漢堡包顯然是由手工製作的。

That is probably how they were made in the beginning before they became a huge conglomerate that lends a real air of reality to the scene because if they showed burgers the way they look now at Mcdonald's, these sort of perfect circles, I would have a harder time believing that that it was real to me.

這可能是在他們成為一個巨大的企業集團之前，他們一開始就是這樣做的，這給現場帶來了真實的空氣，因為如果他們把漢堡顯示成現在麥當勞的樣子，這些完美的圓圈，我就很難相信這對我來說是真的。

Just the shape of the burgers really is the one thing here that tells me that, oh wow, this is like the first Mcdonald's next time you see a plate of food in a movie, think about all that went into it and remember that nothing is accidental when you see it on the screen.

只是漢堡的形狀真的是這裡的一件事，它告訴我，哦，哇，這就像第一個麥當勞下次你在電影中看到一盤食物時，想想所有的東西都在裡面，記住，當你在螢幕上看到它時，沒有什麼是偶然的。