more often than not they think about sushi, but not me.

更多的時候，他們想到的是壽司，但不是我。

Whenever I leave Japan what I crave the most

每當我離開日本，我最渴望的是

is without a doubt unagi.

毋庸置疑的是unagi。

(lively hip hop music)

(生動的嘻哈音樂)

So please imagine my excitement

所以請想象我的興奮之情

now that we have traveled down to what I am calling

現在，我們已經走到了我所說的

the unagi capital of Japan, Nagoya.

日本的鰻魚之都，名古屋。

- If you ask anybody living in Japan

- 如果你問生活在日本的任何人

where the best eel is,

最好的鰻魚在哪裡。

they're absolutely gonna say Nagoya.

他們絕對會說名古屋。

And it's literally an hour and a half away by train.

而坐火車的話，簡直就是一個半小時的路程。

Every time we've come to Nagoya

我們每次來名古屋的時候

we've actually had Una Dong

我們實際上已經有了烏納東

and we've smashed their specialty Hitsumabushi.

而我們已經粉碎了他們的特色Hitsumabushi。

- Hitsumabushi! - And we've just never

- 霹靂游擊隊!- 而我們只是從未

ever shared it with you guys.

曾經與你們分享過它。

- We're gonna do this professionally

- 我們要專業地做這件事

because we're professionals-- - Yes, calm.

因為我們是專業人士 - 是的，冷靜。

- And I'm gonna contain my excitement as much as I can.

- 而我將盡可能地控制我的興奮。

(lively techno music)

(生動的技術音樂)

(lively upbeat music)

(活潑歡快的音樂)

- Okay, we just left Nagoya station

- 好的，我們剛剛離開名古屋站

and we're headed to a fishmonger called Nakasho

我們要去一個叫Nakasho的魚販子那裡。

and they've been in the business for over 90 years;

而且他們在這個行業已經有超過90年的歷史。

which is a crazy amount of time to be mongering things.

這是一個瘋狂的時間來製造事情。

And the question we have,

而我們的問題是。

the very professional foodie question we have

非常專業的美食家問題，我們有

is can you monger other things?

是你可以製造其他東西嗎？

Like can you be a octopus monger?

比如說你能不能成為一個章魚販子？

- Is there an apple monger?

- 有一個蘋果販子嗎？

- A berry monger? - How do I start

- 漿果販子？- 我如何開始

monging things? - Money monger.

搗鼓東西？- 賺錢的人。

- Like what does it mean to mong?

- 比如說mong是什麼意思？

- To monger-- - Have I ever monged

- 我是否曾經做過 "雜種"？

anything in my life?

我生活中的任何事情？

- Can now I mong?

- 現在可以了嗎？

These are the important questions, we'll contemplate them.

這些都是重要的問題，我們要思考這些問題。

(peaceful techno music)

(和平的技術音樂)

- My name is Higashl. (speaking in foreign language)

- 我的名字是Higashl。(用外語發言)

- Wow. - That's a big boy.

- 哇。- 這是個大男孩。

- Oh my gosh, wow. - Big boy.

- 哦，我的天哪，哇。- 大男孩。

(speaking in foreign language)

(用外語發言)

- Okay, are these the blue ones?

- 好的，這些是藍色的嗎？

- The blue ones are the good ones.

- 藍色的是好的。

(muffled talking)

（悶聲說話）

- Oh, yeah.

- 哦，是的。

Oh yeah, yeah.

哦，是的，是的。

Oh totally, moshi moshi, I got it, yeah.

哦，完全是，moshi moshi，我知道了，是的。

(peaceful techno music)

(和平的技術音樂)

(loud water splashing)

(響亮的水花)

(speaking in foreign language)

(用外語發言)

(peaceful techno music)

(和平的技術音樂)

- I'm feeling very happy.

- 我感到非常高興。

We right now are at Unagi Yondaime Kikukawa.

我們現在是在Unagi Yondaime Kikukawa。

And that's a very hard word for me to remember, but I did it

而這個詞對我來說是很難記住的，但我做到了

because, unagi. - Unagi.

因為，unagi。- 鰻魚。

10 points to Gryffindor if anybody knows what that's from.

如果有人知道那是什麼意思，格蘭芬多得10分。

Speaking of which, don't I look so Gryffindorian today?

說到這個，我今天看起來是不是很像格蘭芬多？

- You look like a very stern teacher.

- 你看起來像一個非常嚴厲的老師。

- I'm here to learn and teach

- 我是來學習和教學的

and to spread the word of unagi.

並傳播unagi的資訊。

- I feel like a little intimidated,

- 我覺得有點被嚇到了。

like you're gonna walk around with like a ruler stick

就像你要拿著尺子棍子到處走一樣

and I'm gonna get smacked if I get a fact incorrectly.

如果我把一個事實弄錯了，我就會被抽打。

- Well, I mean that could happen,

- 嗯，我的意思是這可能發生。

I could just start eating your unagi instead.

我可以直接開始吃你的鰻魚。

- I don't have to worry about it because I know so much

- 我不必擔心，因為我知道的太多了

about unagi now.

關於unagi現在。

I am the one that is hyper informed.

我是一個信息量很大的人。

- Okay, let me hear about this.

- 好吧，讓我聽聽這個。

- I read Kafka on the Shore.

- 我讀了《岸邊的卡夫卡》。

I don't remember that much about it,

我不記得那麼多了。

except for three things. - Okay.

除了三件事。- 好的。

- One, Johnny Walker kills a lot of cats.

- 第一，強尼-沃克殺了很多貓。

- Okay. - Two, they have to flip

- 好的 二，他們必須翻轉

a really heavy stone. - Okay.

一塊非常重的石頭。- 好的。

- And number three, the main character really likes to eat

- 第三，主角真的很喜歡吃東西

unagi once a month as a treat.

每月一次的unagi，作為一種待遇。

And that part resonated with me so much.

這一部分與我產生了很大的共鳴。

- 'Cause you wanted to have it once a month as a treat?

- 因為你想每個月吃一次，作為一種享受？

- The rest of the plot, I don't know what happens,

- 其餘的情節，我不知道發生了什麼。

how it ends, I don't remember.

它是如何結束的，我不記得了。

But the unagi I remember.

但我記得的是unagi。

- Excuse me, I thought I was suppose to be learning

- 對不起，我想我應該是在學習

facts about unagi but all I'm learning is that--

關於unagi的事實，但我所瞭解到的是 --

- Cultural references, cultural references.

- 文化參考，文化參考。

- Okay. - So this is the culture

- 好的 那麼這就是文化

first, you'll get the facts next.

首先，你接下來會得到事實。

Unagi facts. - Yes, you remember

鰻魚的事實。- 是的，你記得

at the beginning I was talking about,

在開始的時候，我說的是。

can you say it for me?

你能為我說嗎？

- Hitsumabushi. - It feels different

- は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は、は。- 感覺不同

when you say it somehow.

當你以某種方式說出來的時候。

- It's not hitsayobushi, it's Hitsumabushi.

- 這不是hotosayobushi，而是Hitsumabushi。

- So hitsumabushi is Nagoya's jam.

- 是以，hitumabushi是名古屋的特色。

And basically instead of just serving the eel

而且基本上不只是提供鰻魚，而是

on top of the rice with the sauce

在米飯上加上醬汁

and just like eating that,

而且就像吃那個一樣。

they serve it with all the little sides parts,

他們把它和所有的小零件一起供應。

so you can kind of enjoy it in four different ways;

所以你可以用四種不同的方式享受它。

which I really like because sometimes we talk about

我非常喜歡，因為有時我們會談論

how we get a little bit the same thing

我們如何得到一點相同的東西

over and over again.

一遍又一遍。

- For real, it's exciting

- 真的，這很令人興奮

because when you get, in Tokyo, eel,

因為當你得到，在東京，鰻魚。

then it'll just be sauce and rice, eat it.

然後就是醬油和米飯，吃吧。

When you're halfway through, you still know

當你走到一半時，你仍然知道

what the rest of the meal is gonna taste like,

這頓飯的其餘部分會是什麼味道。

but here they keep on changing things up

但在這裡，他們一直在改變事情

and keeping you so excited, like I am, for all the eel.

並讓你像我一樣，為所有的鰻魚感到興奮。

Unagi fact, another thing that makes Nagoya style unagi

鰻魚的事實，使名古屋式鰻魚的另一個特點是

unique is that they don't steam it before grilling.

獨特之處在於，他們在燒烤前不蒸煮它。

Usually in Tokyo, they will steam it first

通常在東京，他們會先將其蒸熟。

and then finish it on the grill, not here,

然後在烤架上完成，不是在這裡。

straight up grill, just like a pro.

直接進行燒烤，就像一個專業人員一樣。

Not that you're not a pro in Tokyo,

並不是說你在東京不是一個職業選手。

but this is...

但這是...

- I'm gonna let you keep circling your way out of this.

- 我會讓你繼續繞著你的方式離開這裡。

The other thing that I find exciting

另一件讓我感到興奮的事情是

is that every place has their own tare, their own sauce.

是，每個地方都有他們自己的塔雷，他們自己的醬。

The kind of way they go for yakitori

他們吃燒鳥的那種方式

and we have different sauce or salt to choose from,

而且我們有不同的醬汁或鹽可以選擇。

it's never the same in every place,

每個地方的情況都不一樣。

there is like a huge ginormous vat of sauce back there

後面有一個巨大的醬油桶

that's just kind of like gathering flavor

這只是一種類似於收集味道

and getting more delicious

並獲得更多的美味

as time goes on. - Oh my gosh.

隨著時間的推移。- 哦，我的天啊。

(lively funk music)

(生動的放克音樂)

It smells delicious.

它聞起來很香。

I gotta laugh.

我得笑。

One person laughed at my joke,

有一個人聽了我的笑話後大笑起來。

one person laughed at my joke.

有一個人聽了我的笑話後笑了起來。

I have a feeling I'm gonna be scolded by the teacher

我有一種感覺，我將會被老師責罵

for talking too much in class.

因為在課堂上說得太多。

Pick me, I have so much more to say.

選我吧，我還有很多話要說。

(smooth jazz techno music)

(流暢的爵士技術音樂)

Oh baby, I'm so ready.

哦，寶貝，我已經準備好了。

(speaking in foreign language)

(用外語發言)

Wow. - Yes, yeah.

哇。- 是的，是的。

- This is amazing. (speaking in foreign language)

- 這真是不可思議。(用外語發言)

- You know what we have to do, right?

- 你知道我們要做什麼，對嗎？

- Oh please. - We have to hold back.

- 哦，拜託。- 我們必須忍住。

And we have to take 1,000 sexy food porn shots of this.

而我們必須拍攝1000張性感的食物色情照片。

Brace yourself Simon, no bad Simon.

打起精神來，西蒙，不壞的西蒙。

(smooth jazz funk techno music)

(流暢的爵士樂，放克技術音樂)

- Oh my gosh, what a beautiful beautiful bowl.

- 哦，我的天哪，多麼漂亮的一個碗啊。

(speaking in foreign language)

(用外語發言)

So there's a specific way you're suppose to eat this.

所以你應該有一個特定的吃法。

You're suppose to divide it into four.

你應該把它抽成四份。

The first time, you're just suppose to try it on it's own

第一次，你只是想嘗試一下它自己。

to see what it tastes like.

看看它是什麼味道。

So you're gonna use your little tiny wooden paddle

所以你要用你的小木槳

to kinda scoop out a little bit of it.

舀出一點兒來。

And then the second time around

然後第二次的時候

is when you can kinda start changing the flavor

是你可以有點開始改變味道的時候。

a little bit, but we're gonna get there.

有一點，但我們會到達那裡。

First, we're just gonna try it in its purest form.

首先，我們只是要嘗試它的最純粹的形式。

- Just try it in its pure form.

- 只需嘗試它的純正形式。

(peaceful classic music)

(和平的經典音樂)

It's my favorite seafood in the world.

這是我在世界上最喜歡的海鮮。

- It's so so fluffy and nothing about this is fishy.

- 它是如此如此的蓬鬆，沒有任何關於這個的腥味。

I think that can be intimidating for people

我認為這對人們來說可能是一種威懾

because they feel like it's a type

因為他們覺得這是一個類型

of an ocean taste, it's not.

的海洋味道，它不是。

- No, this is the meatiest seafood.

- 不，這是最肉麻的海鮮。

It tastes more like meat than it does like seafood.

它的味道更像肉，而不是像海鮮。

- It does for sure.

- 這是肯定的。

- It's so soft, it's got a little bit of crisp on it,

- 它是如此柔軟，上面有一點脆皮。

kinda like a really good crispy chicken wing.

有點像一個非常好的脆皮雞翅。

- I think Nagoya has gt that down

- 我認為名古屋已經把這個問題解決了

because they've got the crispy chicken wing jam

因為他們有脆皮雞翅果醬

and they know how to keep it moist on the inside

他們知道如何在裡面保持溼潤

and crispy on the outside.

而且外面很脆。

That's the real tough part

這是真正困難的部分

because eel is such a thin piece of meat once you filet it.

因為一旦你把它切成片，鰻魚就是這麼薄的一塊肉。

Once you start grilling it on that high heat,

一旦你開始在那麼大的火上烤它。

you could just use up all the fat,

你可以用完所有的脂肪。

crisp it up and it could be nothing.

把它弄脆，可能什麼都不是。

But wow, its just got such a nice color to it.

但是，哇，它的顏色是如此的漂亮。

How do you feel about the tare as well?

你對皮重也有什麼看法？

- It's not over powering.

- 這並不是過分的力量。

- And not too sweet, right?

- 而且不會太甜，對嗎？

- Yeah, that's exactly it.

- 是的，這正是它。

You go to some places and it's just so very very sweet

你去一些地方，它只是如此非常非常甜蜜

and kind of like the stickiness of the crunch

並有點喜歡這種粘性的鬆脆感

kind of makes it taste like candy a bit.

這讓它有點像糖果的味道。

This does not have that, just so savory.

這個沒有，只是太鹹了。

And light, and so light.

而且很輕，而且很輕。

Like I'm just like, oops, I've already finished

就像我只是想，哎呀，我已經完成了

and you're behind me, oopsie.

而你在我身後，opsie。

My gosh Simon, you're moving so slowly,

我的天哪，西蒙，你的動作太慢了。

it's like you don't even like eel.

好像你根本不喜歡鰻魚。

It really seems to me like if you continue this way,

在我看來，如果你繼續這樣下去。

I'll just have to eat both of our meals.

我只能把我們兩個人的飯都吃了。

(loud bell ringing)

(響亮的鐘聲)

- Round two. - Round two.

- 第二輪。- 第二回合。

I'll be honest I put some wasabi on

老實說，我放了一些芥末在上面。

and then I lost it somewhere so we're gonna go for it.

然後我又把它弄丟了，所以我們要去找它。

- You're gonna get a wasabi bomb.

- 你會得到一個芥末炸彈。

So for the second dish,

是以，對於第二道菜。

first time you're suppose to have it pure.

第一次，你應該有它的純潔。

Second time, this is where you could add the toppings

第二遍，這時你可以加入配料

like the wasabi and the seaweed and the green onion.

如芥末、海帶和蔥。

It doesn't need it,

它不需要它。

but it just gives you a little bit of variety

但它只是給了你一點點的變化

if you want some.

如果你想要一些。

- I mean if you think about it,

- 我的意思是，如果你想一想。

it's not like you can go to a place in North America,

它不像你可以去北美的一個地方。

order a hamburger and ask for it four different ways,

點一個漢堡包，要求有四種不同的方式。

it's pretty unique, right.

這是相當獨特的，對吧。

- That is a very good analogy,

- 這是個非常好的比喻。

unless you get four different burgers.

除非你得到四個不同的漢堡。

- I actually think the seaweed is incredibly mashing

- 實際上，我認為海藻是令人難以置信的搗蛋。

with this right now.

現在就用這個。

The toasted nuttiness of the nori on the outside,

外面的紫菜的烘烤堅果味。

it's actually mega-enhancing all the flavors

它實際上是對所有的口味進行了巨大的加強。

of the eel right now.

的鰻魚，現在。

- I do feel like this is a very different bowl now.

- 我確實感覺到這是一個非常不同的碗了。

Before, I tasted a lot more of the smoke and the char.

之前，我嚐到了更多的煙和焦炭的味道。

Here, I have so many more things popping around.

在這裡，我還有很多東西冒出來。

- I felt like the sweetness was nearly muted.

- 我覺得甜味幾乎被削弱了。

The green onions and a little tiny kick of the wasabi;

蔥和一點點小的芥末的刺激。

which you could barely taste by the way, it wasn't hot.

順便說一句，你幾乎嘗不到，它並不熱。

- No. - And then for me,

- 不 然後對我來說。

like I said, I feel like the nori was the winner.

正如我所說，我覺得紫菜是贏家。

It just made all the crispy edges kinda pop out

它只是讓所有的脆皮邊緣有點跳出來。

and taste more nutty.

並且嚐起來更有堅果味。

Like when you have that kind of crispy nut flavor

比如說當你有那種脆皮堅果的味道時

rather than having like a sweet

而不是有像甜蜜的

saucy flavor. - Exactly.

醬油味。- 正是如此。

- Oh my gosh, and we still have a third way to try it.

- 哦，我的天哪，我們還有第三種方法可以嘗試。

And then we have whatever way we want after that.

然後我們有任何我們想要的方式。

- We're not even halfway done.

- 我們甚至沒有完成一半。

- I know, are you happy with our journey to Nagoya?

- 我知道，你對我們去名古屋的旅程滿意嗎？

For you to be trying your most favorite thing ever?

對於你要嘗試你最喜歡的東西？

- I'm happy with my journey to Japan,

- 我對我的日本之旅很滿意。

with my journey in life.

與我的人生旅程。

- Oh, I know what's happening right now.

- 哦，我知道現在正在發生什麼。

We all know what's happening right now.

我們都知道現在正在發生什麼。

So many times you can question yourself.

所以很多時候你可以質疑自己。

Have I made the right choices in life?

我在生活中做出了正確的選擇嗎？