I was like, she has favorites, it's not me, but it was in that moment.

我當時想，她有喜歡的人，這不是我，但就在那一刻。

Okay.

好的。

Oh.

哦。

Mhm.

嗯。

Hi.

你好。

Hi, how are you?

嗨，你好嗎？

Nice to see you, see you.

很高興見到你，見到你。

I'm so excited.

我太興奮了。

Thank you so much for having me.

非常感謝你邀請我。

Oh my gosh, thanks for coming.

哦，我的天哪，謝謝你的到來。

I love it.

我喜歡它。

That we both like the same sort of food.

我們都喜歡同樣的食物。

Are you vegan predominantly?

你是以素食為主嗎？

This is one of my favorite restaurants.

這是我最喜歡的餐廳之一。

Crossroads, which is all begin.

十字路口，這都是開始。

I haven't tried all of these things, so we're trying things for the first time.

我還沒有嘗試過所有這些東西，所以我們是第一次嘗試東西。

Well what is this supposed to be?

那麼這應該是什麼呢？

I have no idea.

我不知道。

So good.

如此之好。

The best thing.

最好的事情。

I love it.

我喜歡它。

I was just dipping it right into the sauce.

我只是把它直接浸入醬汁。

I should probably, honestly, I exactly like you.

我也許應該，說實話，我完全喜歡你。

Like I will use my fingers and dip right into the sauce.

比如我會用我的手指，直接蘸上醬汁。

My husband has really great table manners.

我丈夫的餐桌禮儀真的很好。

Actually, the first time I met him I had a bite of food off his plate and he was like oh hell is that how you met?

事實上，我第一次見到他時，我從他的盤子裡咬了一口食物，他就說，哦，地獄，你們就是這樣認識的？

So we met in new york um At the moment in 2014 it was an event for Louis Vuitton and he was sat next to me, he was seated together, was sitting next to each other.

是以，我們在紐約相遇，嗯，在2014年的時候，那是路易威登的一個活動，他坐在我旁邊，他坐在一起，坐在彼此旁邊。

Yeah and he was sitting on my right and on my left Glenda Bailey was sitting next to me and she said oh my goodness you guys are gonna get married.

是的，他坐在我的右邊，在我的左邊，格倫達-貝利坐在我旁邊，她說，哦，我的天，你們要結婚了。

I was like whoa wait a minute!

我當時想，哇，等一下!

I've been separated from Orlando for a year.

我已經和奧蘭多分開一年了。

That was the last thing in my mind.

這是我腦海中的最後一件事。

And I was like, what did you tell her?

我當時想，你跟她說什麼了？

I mean she obviously knows she knows not married.

我的意思是她顯然知道她知道沒有結婚。

I remember when he proposed to me, she was one of the first people I told, I was like, oh my God, you are right.

我記得當他向我求婚時，她是我第一個告訴的人之一，我當時想，哦，我的上帝，你是對的。

Like that is crazy.

就像那是瘋狂的。

Crazy.

瘋了。

Am I getting you?

我是否得到了你？

What are we trying?

我們在嘗試什麼？

Let me trying.

讓我試試。

Did you try the pizza?

你試過披薩嗎？

I did.

我做到了。

Okay.

好的。

It's yummy.

它很美味。

Did you try it?

你試過了嗎？

I'm gonna have a try now.

我現在要試一試。

Do you eat, you eat pizza with a fork and knife?

你吃，你用叉子和刀子吃披薩嗎？

I'm just gonna pick it.

我只是要選它。

Hey, I should be using a different place now.

嘿，我現在應該用一個不同的地方。

I don't know.

我不知道。

I don't know what's like the rules on the plates either.

我也不知道盤子上的規則是什麼樣子的。

We need Evan.

我們需要埃文。

I just switched when I felt like it was time.

我只是在我覺得是時候的時候換了。

Well, we met over food as well.

好吧，我們也是在食物上認識的。

We did.

我們做到了。

We met, we had dinner, our girls dinner at Nobu.

我們見了面，吃了晚飯，我們的女孩在諾布的晚餐。

Yeah.

是的。

And I remember we took a selfie in the bathroom, the four of us and then we just started talking on our own.

我記得我們在浴室裡拍了一張自拍，我們四個人，然後我們就開始自言自語。

Yeah, exactly.

是的，沒錯。

Because we have a similar interest.

因為我們有類似的興趣。

Yes, insulting wellness.

是的，侮辱性的健康。

Clean beauty and clean eating and fitness Fitness.

清潔美容和清潔飲食和健身健身。

We didn't pull it together.

我們沒有把它拉到一起。

Hmm.

嗯。

I want to try the pasta.

我想試試意大利麵。

Oh my God.

哦，我的上帝。

What is wrong with me?

我有什麼問題嗎？

Sorry.

對不起。

Okay.

好的。

Tell me if you want more.

如果你想要更多，請告訴我。

Thank you.

謝謝你。

Next time actually, I'm gonna have you over to my house because I actually love to cook.

實際上，下一次，我要請你到我家去，因為我實際上喜歡做飯。

You do.

你會的。

I love to cook.

我喜歡做飯。

So I don't love to cook.

所以我不愛做飯。

I know you told me, but I would like to cook more so I can teach you.

我知道你告訴過我，但我想多做飯，這樣我就可以教你。

I would love to.

我很願意。

My grandma told me how to cook really?

我的祖母告訴我如何做飯，真的嗎？

And she told me about health and wellness.

她還告訴我關於健康和保健的問題。

So like at a young age like 13.

所以像在13歲這樣年輕的時候。

Oh my gosh, yeah, I got into it.

哦，我的天哪，是的，我進入了它。

I didn't know anything really about health and wellness.

我對健康和養生真的一無所知。

I mean, I did work out and starting like in high school with kIM and I used to work out what kind of workouts did you do?

我的意思是，我確實在鍛鍊，從高中開始就和KIM一起，我曾經鍛鍊過，你做過什麼樣的鍛鍊？

Do you know what billy blanks is?

你知道Billy Blanks是什麼嗎？

Type o?

類型o?

Oh yes.

哦，是的。

Oh my gosh, we're the DVD test.

哦，我的天啊，我們是DVD測試。

Yeah, but we to, the class was here in L.

是的，但我們到了，班級就在這裡，在L。

A.

A.

I did the Dvds.

我做了Dvds。

I made my grandma do 11 made.

我讓我的祖母做了11次。

No way it's the best workout.

沒辦法，這是最好的鍛鍊。

Especially for like your obliques and your halves.

特別是對於像你的斜方肌和你的半身。

I need to get back on that and we would do back to back classes, two classes in a row.

我需要重新開始，我們會做背靠背的課程，連續兩節課。

I felt like through college I would work out and try to eat healthy.

我覺得通過大學的學習，我會鍛鍊身體，努力吃得健康。

I just didn't really know what it meant.

我只是沒有真正瞭解它的含義。

Like I remember it was like so many trends like Atkins diet and like so many different things.

我記得當時有那麼多的趨勢，比如阿特金斯飲食，還有那麼多不同的東西。

But when I had mason remember Nicole richie was like, you have to read this book, It was called Super Baby Food.

但是，當我有梅森的時候，我記得妮可-裡奇說過，你必須讀這本書，它叫《超級嬰兒食品》。

Did you have that?

你有這個嗎？

Yeah.

是的。

So like when I read that it was all about like organic fruits and vegetables and like really giving them like no processed foods and everything from everything fresh.

是以，當我讀到它是所有關於有機水果和蔬菜，以及像真的給他們像沒有加工的食物和一切從一切新鮮。

Yeah, so it kind of snowballed and I think my journey was so much a part of our show from like me learning about organic stuff.

是的，所以它有點像滾雪球，我認為我的旅程是我們節目的一部分，從我學習有機的東西。

I used to go to my sister's refrigerators and clean them out and like everyone thought I was crazy and I would clean out their pantries and be like, because none of us grew up that way.

我曾經去我姐姐的冰箱，把它們清理出來，就像每個人都認為我瘋了一樣，我會清理他們的儲藏室，就像，因為我們都不是這樣長大的。

Like to wait, how long have you been eating bacon for health reasons?

喜歡等待，為了健康，你吃培根有多久了？

So I don't know honestly, I just decided to do it.

所以我不知道，說實話，我只是決定去做。

I mean it's definitely better for our planet, definitely my blood type, I'm a positive.

我的意思是，這對我們的星球肯定更好，肯定是我的血型，我是一個積極的人。

Me too.

我也是。

You are positive.

你是積極的。

We're like twins.

我們就像一對雙胞胎。

We basically are, but my blood type is a positive, so it's better for it's better not to have red meat.

我們基本上是這樣，但我的血型是陽性，所以最好是不要吃紅肉。

I have first thing in the morning, celery juice.

我早上的第一件事是喝芹菜汁。

32 ounces.

32盎司。

Oh my gosh.

哦，我的天啊。

Sometimes before that I'll have lemon water.

有時在這之前我會喝檸檬水。

Um, but that's about it.

嗯，但也就這樣了。

Do you notice like benefits from it?

你是否注意到像它的好處？

Yeah, energy, digestion, vitality.

是的，能量，消化，活力。

I love it.

我喜歡它。

So I think I'm gonna do that.

所以我想我要這麼做。

Even Evan has it and the boys Flynn's being pretty good.

甚至埃文也有，男孩弗林的表現也很好。

I mean sometimes he's like, really mom.

我的意思是有時他就像，真的是媽媽。

I'm like, yes, do you like your parents at all?

我想，是的，你根本不喜歡你的父母嗎？

I feel like I have so many similarities to my mom and I feel like all my sisters like we all kind of do we have just so many similarities between us, but then we're all so different.

我覺得我和我媽媽有很多相似之處，我覺得我所有的姐妹都是這樣，我們之間有很多相似之處，但我們又都是如此不同。

Why?

為什麼？

So you posted something she wrote to you on your birthday saying like, happy birthday.

所以你張貼了她在你生日時寫給你的東西，說像，生日快樂。

My favorite daughter.

我最喜歡的女兒。

I was like, what are the other ones?

我當時想，其他的是什麼？

She said first?

她先說的？

It was so funny because she said the best day or you changed my heart forever because I go, what time was I born?

這很有趣，因為她說最好的一天還是你永遠改變了我的心，因為我去，我是什麼時候出生的？

You know those random things that people send you to fill out for astrology stuff?

你知道那些人們寄給你的隨機的東西，讓你填寫占星的東西嗎？

So I was like, mom, I need my birth time.

所以我就說，媽媽，我需要我的出生時間。

And then when I posted it, Khloe wrote me back.

然後當我發佈時，克洛伊給我回信。

She was like, I've been asking mom my birth time for years and I've never gotten a response.

她說，我多年來一直在問媽媽我的出生時間，但從未得到過迴應。

And so we just like, always joke that she has favorites, it's not me, but it was in that moment.

所以我們就像，總是開玩笑說她有最喜歡的人，不是我，但就是在那一刻。

So I decided to take it.

所以我決定接受它。

You're like, okay, I'm gonna run with this.

你會覺得，好吧，我就用這個來跑。

What about you?

你呢？

I have my dad sent a few months and we have like, the similar heart, Similar to my grandma.

我有我的父親送了幾個月，我們有像，類似的心臟，類似我的奶奶。

So that was his mother and your grandma who just passed away?

所以那是他的母親和你剛剛去世的奶奶？

Yeah.

是的。

Both my grandparents passed away within 20 days of each other.

我的兩位祖父母都在20天內相繼離世。

No way.

不可能。

Yeah, they were very in love and my grandpa used to kiss my grandma's bingo every morning, every one of her fingers and say like, thank God that we have each other.

是的，他們非常相愛，我爺爺每天早上都會親吻我奶奶的賓果，她的每一根手指，並說，感謝上帝，我們擁有彼此。

That is the cutest thing.

這是最可愛的事情。

Yeah, I'm just thinking about that pizza, you want more and I feel like the middle one looks yummy, but I don't know.

是的，我只是在想那個披薩，你想要更多，我覺得中間的那個看起來很好吃，但我不知道。

Yeah, it does actually.

是的，實際上是這樣。

Do you let your kids have social media Evan is very strict about screen time because he grew up without a tv and his mom said to him because he was like, mom, I want a computer when he was like older, like a, like a late teen or something or mid teens.

你讓你的孩子擁有社交媒體嗎？埃文對螢幕時間的要求非常嚴格，因為他在沒有電視的情況下長大，他的媽媽對他說，因為他喜歡，媽媽，我想有一臺電腦，當他像大一點，像一個，像一個晚期的青少年或十幾歲。

And she said, well if you want a computer then you have to make it.

她說，好吧，如果你想要一臺電腦，那麼你就必須製造它。

So he made a computer.

所以他做了一臺電腦。

We definitely have like our limits like our times of stuff and I've noticed different kids react differently to it.

我們肯定有像我們的限制，比如我們的東西的時間，我注意到不同的孩子對它的反應不同。

Like mason started some secret like accounts during quarantine, like Tic tac and instagram and those were quickly shut down.

像梅森在隔離期間開始了一些祕密的像賬戶，像Tic tac和instagram，這些都很快被關閉了。

Yeah.

是的。

It's one thing to communicate with your friends with roadblocks, right?

與有路障的朋友溝通是一回事，對嗎？

Or like chat with them whatever, but it's a whole different thing to be on social media and I really do feel like he should be 18 and then he can decide what he wants to do or what you want to share what he wants to share because that is true.

或者像與他們哈拉什麼的，但在社交媒體上是完全不同的事情，我真的覺得他應該是18歲，然後他可以決定他想做什麼或你想分享什麼，因為那是真的。

Like what kids share today, it's and it's out there, it's there forever.

像今天孩子們分享的東西，它和它在那裡，它永遠在那裡。

Yeah, I felt like quarantine was a big lesson too because I felt like it was hard for kids.

是的，我覺得隔離也是一個很大的教訓，因為我覺得這對孩子們來說很困難。

Did you feel that way?

你有這種感覺嗎？

Like I mean my kids, like I loved it because I loved being home and being with them and not feeling guilty or feel like I was missing out.

我是說我的孩子們，我喜歡這樣，因為我喜歡在家和他們在一起，不感到內疚，也不覺得我錯過了什麼。

Like it was a good time for like bonding, but then I felt like for their social interaction it was really hard for them.

就像這是一個很好的時間，可以增進感情，但我覺得對於他們的社會交往來說，這對他們來說真的很難。

Yeah, mom guilt is real.

是的，媽媽的內疚是真實的。

Mom goes right, it's so real and it never goes away.

媽媽走得對，它是如此真實，而且永遠不會消失。

Even when I'm in therapy, I'll talk about parenting advice to my therapist, which I feel like is so helpful sometimes went just to get a second opinion talking is healing for sure.

甚至當我在接受治療時，我也會向我的治療師談論育兒建議，我覺得這有時很有幫助，只是為了獲得第二種意見，談話肯定是有療效的。

That's something I learned from a young age.

這是我從小就學到的東西。

Like yeah, I like I'm big on therapy so I'll do like a weekly therapy even if I feel like nothing's going on.

是的，我喜歡我對治療很重視，所以我每週都會做一次治療，即使我覺得什麼都沒有發生。

She's like, yeah, that's sometimes I feel like the moments when you have like deeper realizations or like take that pulls to check in.

她說，是的，有時候我覺得這就是你有更深的領悟的時候，或者說是採取這種拉動方式來檢查的時候。

So what do you do for mental health like for your own?

那麼，你為心理健康像為自己做什麼呢？

I've actually recently been doing the Wim hof breathing technique but it's not, is that the thing you told me about, it's like you do a series of breaths and you guide you through it.

實際上，我最近一直在做Wim hof的呼吸技術，但它不是，是你告訴我的那個東西，它就像你做一系列的呼吸，你引導你完成它。

So it's like a little app, the Wim Hof method of like breathing and it just floods your body with oxygen and it helps supposedly with mental health and physical health and energy and stamina and endurance.

是以，這就像一個小應用程序，Wim Hof的呼吸方法，它只是用氧氣淹沒你的身體，它有助於所謂的心理健康和身體健康以及能量和耐力。

Do you do that with your kids?

你對你的孩子也這樣做嗎？

But Flynn does meditate?

但弗林確實在打坐？

How do you balance being a mom and working?

你是如何平衡做母親和工作的？

Yeah, it's something I'm constantly Working on.

是的，這是我一直在努力的事情。

Like my kids don't wake up until around 637 And so I have between 5:30-6, I do my work out and get myself already before they wake up because otherwise I feel like too guilty to leave them to go and do a workout because I think that it's important for them to see that work is a part of life and my mom and dad were both busy working parents and that taught me the importance of work ethic and that taught me a lot.

像我的孩子們直到637左右才醒來，所以我在5:30-6之間，我做我的工作，並在他們醒來之前讓自己已經做了，因為否則我覺得離開他們去做鍛鍊太內疚了，因為我認為讓他們看到工作是生活的一部分很重要，我的媽媽和爸爸都是忙碌的工作父母，這讓我知道了職業道德的重要性，這教會了我很多。

But then she was so busy, she wasn't able to be there for like, you know, special things that the school had on.

但後來她太忙了，她沒能去參加學校的特別活動，你知道，學校的特別活動。

So I'm very sensitive to that and I make sure that I'm like always there whenever the school things when Flynn needs me to be there, I'm the same way and the only way I remember when I first had mason, I only didn't feel guilty when I was working and it's hard still even like seeing friends unless friends come over to my house and then there with my kids.

所以我對這一點非常敏感，我確保每當學校的事情弗林需要我去的時候，我都會在那裡，我也是這樣，我記得我剛有梅森的時候，只有在工作的時候才不會感到內疚，甚至還很難見到朋友，除非朋友來我家，然後和我的孩子在那裡。

Like I just, I want to be with my kids if I'm not working.

就像我一樣，如果我不工作，我想和我的孩子在一起。

Yeah.

是的。

Including my kids and myself care is really helpful because as a mom like I just feel guilty if I was like guys I'm gonna close my door and I'm gonna get a massage you know?

包括我的孩子和我自己的護理真的很有幫助，因為作為一個母親，我只是感到內疚，如果我是喜歡的人，我要關閉我的門，我要去按摩，你知道嗎？

But my kids actually like they love getting massages too.

但我的孩子們實際上也喜歡接受按摩。

So I we put on a good movie, we all go in my bedroom, turn on the fireplace like and take turns getting massages like Penelope and north love to get their nails done.

所以我我們放一部好電影，我們都去我的臥室，打開壁爐一樣，輪流做按摩，像佩內洛普和北愛做指甲。

So even my boys will get their nails done.

是以，即使是我的男孩也會去做指甲。

So it just makes it like nice family time together instead of just me feeling guilty and going and doing it on my own when I take the kids for a walk it's the best.

是以，這只是使它成為美好的家庭相處時間，而不是讓我感到內疚，當我帶孩子們散步時，我自己去做，這是最好的。

Put the 2 to 1 thing the program and flint with me and Evan and we just all go on, go on, we welcome.

把2比1的事情的程序和火石與我和埃文，我們只是都去，去，我們歡迎。

They love it.

他們喜歡這樣。

We did that on my birthday.

我們在我的生日那天做了這個。

It's like, you guys have no choice.

這就像，你們沒有選擇。

We're going on a walk, going on a walk.

我們要去散步了，去散步了。

It's my birthday.

今天是我的生日。

And of course it was like the one day that it was so windy and dust was flying like in all of our eyes, we had to stop after like two minutes.

當然，就像有一天，風很大，灰塵飛揚，像在我們所有的眼睛裡，我們不得不在兩分鐘後停下來。

It's good to be able to incorporate them into that.

能夠將他們納入其中是件好事。

Yeah, I agree with the same again, again twinning and we're so twinning.

是的，我同意同樣的再次，再次結對，我們是如此結對。

This is delicious, so delicious.

這很好吃，太好吃了。

I'm so excited that they tried it.

我很高興他們嘗試了這個方法。

Thank you so much for having me and keep for coming, enjoying this delicious meal together.

非常感謝你們邀請我，並繼續來，一起享受這頓美味的晚餐。

I know I can't wait to come to your house and learn how to cook and then I'll be back here for Pilates to yes, we have to do that facial again, Wednesday.

我知道我迫不及待地想去你家，學習如何做飯，然後我會回到這裡做普拉提，對，我們必須再做一次面部護理，星期三。