I don't I don't know.

我不知道，我不知道。

Just, you know, typically, when you go and you see teams that made it there in a gym packed with all their fans and everybody is celebrating, you got the mascot, got a lot of different things going on, and just it felt a little still.

只是，你知道，通常情況下，當你去，你看到球隊，使它在那裡的健身房擠滿了所有的球迷和每個人都在慶祝，你得到了吉祥物，得到了很多不同的事情，只是它感覺有點靜。

It fell a little bit anti climatic.

它落得有點反氣候。

And even when the brackets came out, I was like, Oh, the West, the East, the south And he just kept saying Indianapolis and I was like, March madness.

甚至當比賽名單出來的時候，我就想，哦，西部，東部，南部 他一直在說印第安納波利斯，我就想，三月的瘋狂。

Can we not get creative like we named the region something different?

我們能不能別出心裁，比如給這個地區取個不同的名字？

Maybe, you know, for John Wooden, maybe for John Thompson, maybe for somebody something different to kind of put a twist on it.

也許，你知道，對於約翰-伍登，也許對於約翰-湯普森，也許對於某個不同的人... ... ... ........

And I know they have a lot of their play other than just the marketing collateral around the tournament.

而我知道他們除了圍繞賽事的營銷宣傳外，還有很多他們的玩法。

But it still felt weird to me.

但我還是覺得很奇怪。

I wouldn't I wouldn't know because I agree with you and I feel like you're right.

我不會我不知道，因為我同意你的觀點，我覺得你是對的。

How much time did you have to prepare for this?

你有多少時間來準備？

We've known they were going in the bubble for?

我們已經知道他們要進入保麗龍期了？

Yeah, And you're gonna tell me that now we're going to think, Why didn't we just get sponsors for each of these regionals?

是啊，你會告訴我，現在我們會想，為什麼我們不為每個地區的比賽找贊助商呢？

Why are we just calling them East, West and Midwest?

為什麼我們只叫他們東、西、中西部？

And maybe they tried and the numbers just didn't work to the point where it made sense, and they just kept it.

也許他們試過了，但這些數字並沒有達到合理的程度，於是他們就保留了下來。

They want to send them, like if you're gonna start after coaches now, you're gonna offend some players, like people know you.

他們想派他們去，就像如果你現在要開始追殺教練，你會得罪一些球員，就像人們認識你一樣。

We didn't have March madness.

我們沒有三月的瘋狂。

Not last year.

去年沒有。

Do you know how much brands would love to be a part of this?

你知道有多少品牌想成為其中的一員嗎？

Because the amount of people that are going to be at home watching this doesn't that open.

因為要在家裡看這個的人的數量並沒有那麼多開。

We will see, I get that.

我們拭目以待，我明白了。

But doesn't it also open you up for a little more criticism?

但這不也讓你多了些責備的機會嗎？

What do we always say?

我們總是說什麼？

It's already happening though, Allen.

不過已經發生了，艾倫。

I mean, we're talking about the Michigan State sponsored by Rocket Mortgage.

我的意思是，我們正在談論的密歇根州由火箭抵押貸款贊助。

It's already happening.

它已經發生了。

They're already getting that money, so why not get?

他們已經得到了這些錢，為什麼不得到呢？

But I'm just saying sometimes in these situations, as you know, Jay, the numbers, you know how it is in negotiations.

但我只是說，有時在這種情況下，你知道，傑伊，數字，你知道它是如何在談判。

It's like, Okay, we're trying to get this number This is what it's worth to us, and they can't get that number.

這就像，好吧，我們試圖得到這個數字 這是什麼，它是值得我們， 他們不能得到這個數字。

So ultimately, in the end, they're like, Well, it's better we don't give it up, We may do something else And then I don't know, Maybe throughout the course of of the tournament they switched.

所以最後，他們說，我們最好不要放棄，我們可能會做別的事情，然後我不知道，也許在整個比賽過程中，他們就換了。

They hit the switch and they do something different.

他們按下開關，就會做一些不同的事情。

I mean, I don't I mean, I guess for me, it's just like it's in Indy.

我的意思是，我不... ...我的意思是，我想對我來說， 它只是喜歡它在印地安。

Maybe they're doing that to remind everyone it's an indie.

也許他們這樣做是為了提醒大家這是一部獨立電影。

Or maybe there's a deal in place with the City of of Indie.

或者是和印城有協議。

To be able to say, Maybe you have to do it this way.

能夠說，也許你必須這樣做。

I love watching Patrick Ewing succeed.

我喜歡看帕特里克-尤因的成功。

I didn't think he was actually going to be able to do this.

沒想到他居然能做到這一點。

When we first got the job three years ago, I was like, Well, you know, how does an NBA coach going to transition lifestyle, get into the trenches, recruit and and look, winning The Big East tournament has extended the runway for him in a massive way because I mean, his first year he was five and 13.

當我們第一次得到這份工作三年前，我很喜歡，好吧，你知道，如何做一個NBA教練去過渡生活方式，進入戰壕，招聘和看，贏得大東賽已經延長了他的跑道在一個巨大的方式，因為我的意思是，他的第一年，他是五和13。

Next year he bounced back.

明年他又反彈了。

There were 19 and 14, Um, but last year in conference.

有19個和14個，嗯，但去年在會議。

They were five and 13, 15 and 17, right?

他們是5歲和13歲，15歲和17歲，對嗎？

So they were under 500 this year to exactly exactly, Um, so this year the fact that they finished a little bit, you know, not great in the conference, but they put together a magical run, and they have a top recruiting class coming in next year like this is propels Patrick Ewing into a different state of mind.

所以他們今年的成績在500分以下，所以今年的事實是，他們完成了一點，你知道，在會議上不是很好，但他們把一個神奇的運行，他們有一個頂級的招募班來在明年像這樣是推動帕特里克-尤因進入一個不同的心態。

These guys, you know, you say to yourself like J just said they didn't register, that he would try to have some Mao.

這些人，你知道，你對自己說，就像J剛說他們沒有登記，他會嘗試有一些Mao。

He would have some mild success in Georgetown when you think about not only him and Juwan Howard, these are two guys that are NBA lifers, whether it's playing or coaching.

他在喬治城會有一些輕微的成功，當你想到不僅是他和朱萬-霍華德，這兩個人都是NBA的命根子，不管是打球還是執教。

But they've been able to see young guys come from college and make the transformation to the N B A.

但他們已經能夠看到年輕人從大學裡走出來，向N B A轉型。

So there's always a natural thought that goes through the minds of people.

所以，人們心中總有一種自然的想法。

How can they make that jump because they've been in the NBA.

他們怎麼能因為一直在NBA就跳槽呢。

But when you got young guys that that you drafted you in training camp with, you see them and you get an understanding.

但是，當你得到了年輕的傢伙， 你起草你在訓練營， 你看到他們，你得到一個瞭解。

Basketball is so much different than football when coaches go from one level to the next.

籃球與足球相比，教練員從一個級別到另一個級別，有很大的不同。

He's got to also be around au circuits.

他還得在AU電路附近。

He sees all of those sort of things, how people reacted, how to, uh, push the buttons of young individuals to succeed and how successful they want to be.

他看到了所有這些事情，人們的反應，如何，呃，推動年輕個體成功的按鈕，以及他們想成為多麼成功的人。

They were successful in college.

他們在大學裡很成功。

They had coaches that led them.

他們有教練帶領他們。

John Thompson recruited him.

約翰-湯普森招募了他。

He saw he saw Matombo.

他看到了，他看到了Matombo。

He saw, uh, Alonzo Mourning Iverson.

他看到了阿隆索-莫寧-艾弗森 He saw, uh, Alonzo Mourning Iverson.

He saw all those things.

他看到了所有這些事情。

So you can take a little bit from John Thompson and imply that in your brain to the next level.

所以你可以從約翰-湯普森那裡學到一點東西，並在你的大腦中暗示到下一個層次。

Now, all of a sudden you are the guy who's coaching.

現在，突然間你成了教練的人。

You take those same principles and you bring them forward in the modern day and these kids that are playing basketball right now, you can resonate with him.

你把這些同樣的原則，帶到現代來，這些現在打籃球的孩子，你可以和他產生共鳴。

He's not even though he's a but you say that it's are to a degree, but he's not oblivious to what's going on in the world.

他不是即使他是一個，但你說這是在一定程度上，但他不是無視世界上發生的事情。

But you say that right?

但你說的對嗎？

And there's also a style of coaching, and I know J with your connection to college basketball.

而且還有一種執教風格，我知道J與你與大學籃球的關係。

I'm curious what you think about this, because there is this sense now in all of sports where there's this generation of athletes that don't want the John Thompson kind of coaching where he's tough on you, where he's going to be in your face where he might like, remember that it was a great, um, miked up moment in the huddle where one of Patrick's players, early in his first couple of years coaching, took like some kind of step back shot.

我很好奇你對這件事有什麼看法，因為現在所有的體育界都有這種感覺，有這一代運動員不希望約翰-湯普森那種教練，他對你很強硬，他要在你的臉上，他可能會喜歡，記得這是一個偉大的，嗯，在圍觀的時刻，帕特里克的一個球員，在他執教的頭幾年早期，採取了像某種後退的鏡頭。

It was a bad shot in the huddle.

這是在圍觀中的一個糟糕的鏡頭。

They haven't miked up, and he's like, You practice that shot.

他們還沒有麥克風，他就說，你練習一下那個鏡頭。

Did you ever take that shot?

你拍過那張照片嗎？

Just completely embarrasses the kid.

就完全讓孩子尷尬了。

It was great, though.

不過，這很好。

Now, you know.

現在，你知道了。

But I bet you, in the end, he probably put his arms around him.

但我敢打賭，到最後，他可能會用手臂抱住他。

When he walked in the tunnel, we might not saw right.

當他在隧道里走的時候，我們可能沒有看到正確的。

We didn't see that, but it's.

我們沒有看到，但它的。

But that moment went viral.

但那一瞬間，病毒式的傳播。

And everybody, of course, now looks at the kid he's yelling at.

而每個人，當然，現在看著他吼的孩子。

But But, you know, can.

但是，但是，你知道，可以。

I had a great quote from Pat Riley, who coached Patrick Ewing with the Knicks, obviously, and he said, if I was a high school player and I was really good, I'd want to go with somebody who is not going to kiss my butt.

我有一個偉大的報價帕特-萊利，誰執教帕特里克-尤因與尼克斯，很明顯，他說，如果我是一個高中球員，我真的很好，我想去與某人誰是不會吻我的屁股。

He used another word who coached the hell out of me and made me better.

他用了另一個詞，他指導了我，讓我變得更好。

I guarantee I'd want to play for Patrick Ewing is that style is his style.

我保證我會想為帕特里克-尤因打球，因為那是他的風格。

Can you still coach that way?

你還能這樣做教練嗎？

I'll tell you this, as as the father of a teenage athlete, I say it's parents more than it is because I think kids would respond if they weren't always told is the coach's fault.

我會告訴你，作為一個十幾歲的運動員的父親，我說這是父母比它更多，因為我認為孩子們會迴應，如果他們不總是告訴是教練的錯。

Do you think the way Patrick coaches young players, that his style now that he's had some success, he's shown, I brought Georgetown back that he will start attracting the top players because they're like, I want to play for a coach like that who will get in my face and get the best out of me?

你認為帕特里克執教年輕球員的方式，他的風格，現在他已經取得了一些成功，他已經表明，我把喬治城帶回來了，他將開始吸引頂級球員，因為他們喜歡，我想為這樣的教練打球，他會在我的臉上得到最好的表現？

Well, you're not only coach the players, you have to coach the parents to.

好吧，你不僅要指導球員，還要指導家長。

Now, you know this about being a college coach.

現在，你知道了這個關於做大學教練的問題。

Everybody thinks so.

每個人都這麼認為。

It's only what you do on the floor and what kind of skills you put the kids through.

只看你在場上做什麼，讓孩子們掌握什麼樣的技能。

No, you're coaching the parents on how to be supportive and how to allow you to leeway to actually coach your son and understand or your daughter that I have to push certain buttons to see how they respond to constantly mold them like wet clay.

不，你是在指導父母如何支持，如何讓你有餘地去實際指導你的兒子和理解或你的女兒，我必須按下某些按鈕，看看他們如何迴應，不斷塑造他們像溼泥。

I will say I will also say this key You talked about this one time you're you're giving example of being on the field and you you do the box around your face joking around like you know my face, right to a degree.

我還會說我還會說這個關鍵你說到這一次你你在場上舉例，你你在你的臉周圍做方框開玩笑，就像你知道我的臉，對的程度。

Think about this for guys like got Patrick Ewing or Juwan Howard.

想想看，像得到帕特里克-尤因或朱萬-霍華德這樣的人。

When they walk into a room, it's different.

當他們走進房間，就不一樣了。

You know who they are.

你知道他們是誰。

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