So you're in kind of a sitcom world.

所以你是在一種情景喜劇的世界裡。

Kind of what?

什麼類型的？

You're also in a doing full on sketch comedy and playing characters.

你也是在做完整的小品喜劇，扮演角色。

So I think I was thinking about this today.

所以我想我今天是在想這個問題。

Of all the people I know that have been on Saturday Night Live and I've known so many of them, you've been on the longest on Sun Out Live.

在我認識的所有上過《週六夜現場》的人中，我認識了這麼多的人，你在《陽光出擊》現場的時間最長。

But also, you probably had the most years of sketch comedy experience before you even got the show of anybody I know.

但同時，你可能是我認識的人中，在你上節目之前，就有最多年的小品喜劇經驗。

Yeah, I mean, that's interesting.

是啊，我的意思是，這很有趣。

I mean, it was like five seasons of all that.

我的意思是，這就像五季的所有。

So yeah, we looked at it.

所以，是的，我們看著它。

I mean, we used to call ourselves, like the SNL for kids and stuff like that, but I thought we would ever really make it, you know, even to like auditioning for it, for real, for real, just because, you know, it just seemed very, you know, it's just such a different world, like we were in Florida.

我的意思是，我們曾經給自己打電話， 像SNL的孩子和類似的東西， 但我認為我們會永遠真正做到這一點， 你知道，甚至像試鏡， 真正的，真正的，只是因為，你知道， 它只是似乎很，你知道，

Then we went to L.

然後我們去了L。

A.

A.

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

So I didn't have that like New York Chicago comedy scene Hustle knowing that s n l is at 30 Rock.

所以，我沒有像紐約芝加哥喜劇現場喧囂知道，S N L是在30搖滾。

Like I didn't know what 30 Rock was, you know, until I went for an audition.

就像我不知道什麼是30搖滾， 你知道，直到我去試鏡。

Basically.

基本上是這樣

So it was very far fetched kind of idea for all of us, Pretty much.

所以這對我們所有人來說都是非常牽強的一種想法，相當多。

And then, you know, as I stayed kind of diligent, pressing the issue of letting me audition or whatever, I finally got the chance.

然後，你知道，因為我一直在那種勤奮，按問題 讓我試鏡或什麼的，我終於得到了機會。

And then, yeah, I don't know if I'll ever give that job up, you know?

然後，是的，我不知道 如果我永遠不會放棄這份工作，你知道嗎？

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah, Well, I don't see a reason why I think it used to be this feeling like, Well, I've done signed out live.

是啊，我不明白為什麼我認為它曾經是這種感覺，好吧，我已經做了簽出現場。

And now I need to move on and and and and put that down and do something else.

現在，我需要繼續前進，並和和放下，做別的事情。

And it's occurred to me that the world we live in now that's not really necessary.

而且我想到，我們現在生活的世界，其實沒有必要。

You can do start out live.

你可以做開始的直播。

You can do it If you had to.

你可以做到這一點，如果你不得不這樣做。

Part of the time.

部分時間。

Do your sitcom make a movie?

你的情景喜劇能拍成電影嗎？

It's not an either or world anymore.

這不是一個非此即彼的世界了。

So and you're so great on that show.

所以，你是如此偉大的節目。

I just don't see why there's any reason to say, Well, your time's up, you've got to leave high school.

我只是不明白為什麼有任何理由說， 好了，你的時間到了，你必須離開高中。

It's not that way anymore.

現在不是這樣的了。

Thank you for saying that.

謝謝你這麼說。

I mean, that's exactly how I see it, too, you know, like it was a time like you said, it was a platform in type of situation.

我的意思是，這正是我如何看待它，太， 你知道，像它是一個時間像你說， 這是一個平臺在類型的情況。

But for me, it was always kind of different because I came into the show with people knowing who I was and want to see me mature or whatever.

但對我來說，總是有點不一樣，因為我進劇組的時候，大家都知道我是誰，想看我成熟什麼的。

And now I'm to the point where a lot of people don't really know the show without me being on it, you know?

現在我已經到了一個地步，很多人都不知道這個節目，沒有我在裡面，你知道嗎？

So it's like a weird kind of do I want to leave and just go do whatever else without it, like Not really.

所以，它就像一個奇怪的一種 我想離開，只是去做什麼 其他沒有它，像不盡然。

You know, I think it's a very special place.

你知道，我認為這是一個非常特殊的地方。

It's a very special tool to keep sharp, you know, just being on top of things week after week.

這是一個非常特殊的工具，以保持鋒利， 你知道，只是在頂部的事情一週又一週。

And, well, there's Yeah, there's a There's a type of comedy that you can do on Sign Out Live that you can't do other places.

是啊，有一個有類型的喜劇，你可以做 在簽出現場，你不能做其他地方。

I remember when I was there.

我記得我在那裡的時候。

Phil Hartman, one of the great sketch performers of all time.

菲爾-哈特曼，史上最偉大的小品演員之一。

He was on the show and then he had been there with at the time, seemed like a long time and then he was said, Well, I guess I need to move on now and do my other stuff.

他是在節目中，然後他一直在那裡與當時，似乎很長一段時間，然後他是說，好吧，我想我需要繼續前進，現在做我的其他事情。

And I thought, no show is going to use Phil Hartman as well as turnout live.

我還以為，沒有哪個節目會用菲爾-哈特曼以及轉場直播。

They're gonna He's and And he went on to do other things, and then sadly, uh, you know, was gone.

他們會... ...他又去做了其他的事情，然後很不幸的是，呃，你知道的，他走了。

But, um, like one at a time, Yes.

但是，嗯，像一個在一個時間，是的。

Years in between.

幾年之間。

Incredible field hardman performance.

不可思議的現場哈德曼表現。

Because wait on the project.

因為等項目上。

Basically, exactly.

基本上，正是如此。

You're in the hands of other people, whereas on sign out live, there's so much you can do and which brings up the question of Lorne Lorne Michaels.

你是在別人的手裡，而在簽出去的直播上，你可以做的事情太多了，這就有了洛恩-洛恩-麥克爾斯的問題。

Obviously, uh, famous creator producer signed out live huge influence on me.

很明顯，呃，著名的創作者製作人簽約直播對我影響巨大。

Um, pretty much gave me my career, so I'm indebted to him like so many of us are.

嗯，幾乎給了我我的職業生涯， 所以我欠他像我們很多人。

He produces, uh, he produces Keenan.

他生產，呃，他生產基南。

He produces your show.

他製作你的節目。

And I'm wondering, is he and I know Lauren from the world of, uh, being my producer on Start live and being the producer on my late night show.

我想知道，他和我認識Lauren的世界，呃，是我在 "開始 "現場的製片人，也是我深夜節目的製片人。

What's he like on a sitcom?

他在情景喜劇裡是什麼樣子？

Is he still the same guy?

他還是那個人嗎？

The kind of doesn't say much, but when he says something, it cuts like a knife.

那種話不多，但他一說出來，就像刀子一樣切人。

Oh man, it cuts like a machete like you do.

哦，夥計，它像你一樣像一把彎刀一樣切割。

So you know, like there's a lot on the line as it is, like the show is, you know, self titled at this point, you know, it was steaming Larry at one point, which I felt much more, you know, distant from and, you know, like just an actor coming to do a show.

所以，你知道，像有很多的線，因為它是，像節目是，你知道，自稱在這一點上，你知道，它是蒸拉里在一個點上，我覺得更多，你知道，距離，你知道，像只是一個演員來做一個節目。

But now this is called Keenan, you know what I mean?

但是現在這個叫基南，你知道我的意思嗎？

And it's all about me and like, you know, the phrase you said Keenan Lauren produces Keenan like That's kind of like really the overall kind of statement for my life.

這一切都與我有關，就像，你知道，這句話你說基南勞倫產生基南一樣，這是一種像真正的整體樣的聲明我的生活。

For the last 18 years, he's just been that guy.

在過去的18年裡，他就是那個人。

So the fact that there's so much weighing on it and we do so much thinking and back and forth and before he chimes in when he does chime in and that's something we haven't thought of, It's like shit, man.

所以，事實上，有這麼多的權衡就可以了，我們做了這麼多的思考，來回和之前，他報時，當他做報時，這是我們沒有想到的東西，這就像狗屎，男人。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Like, why aren't you just around all the time?

就像，你為什麼不只是在所有的時間？

But you know, he can't be everywhere at all times, but you know, it's nice when he does chime in because it's usually pretty on point.

但你知道，他不可能隨時隨地都在， 但你知道，這是很好的，當他確實中綴 因為它通常是相當到位。

Yeah, he can sort of just put his He can shine a light on something and you realize immediately Oh, okay, Yeah, I'm sure he's watched, you know, watches rehearsals of your show.

是啊，他可以那種只是把他的 他可以照亮的東西，你意識到立即 哦，好吧，是啊，我敢肯定，他看，你知道， 手錶排練你的節目。

And if there's something that doesn't seem right, he'll say to you like he used to say to me that my manners were very important.

如果有什麼不對的地方，他會像以前對我說的那樣對你說，我的禮貌非常重要。

You have good manners and I thought, What does that matter?

你很有禮貌，我想，這有什麼關係？

It's about.

這是關於。

It's about being funny and he would say, No, it's funny is one thing, but you have to have this other component, which is part of you, which is to be nice to people and to be well mannered and housing percent.

這是關於有趣的，他會說，不，這很有趣是一回事，但你必須有這另一個組成部分，這是你的一部分，這是對人好，要有禮貌和住房％。

He has a way of making it feel a lot less cooler than you think it is.

他有辦法讓人覺得比你想象中的酷多了。

But your approach to how you present that cool is pinnacle, and that's why he makes kind of lock in on.

但你的方法你如何呈現，酷是巔峰，這就是為什麼他使種鎖定在。

It's like you want to be nice and you want people to like you.

就像你想做個好人，你想讓別人喜歡你一樣。

Yes, lean into that lean into the night, Keenan lean into the nice.

是的，靠到那靠到夜裡，基南靠到不錯。

I didn't realize it had a different title.

我不知道它有一個不同的標題。

I thought there was a show called Keenan and you auditioned for it and you got it?

我以為有一個節目叫《基南》，你去試鏡了，然後得到了它？

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

Lucky world like that.

這樣的幸運世界。

I think it was like made by Keenen Ivory Wayans.

我想這就像基恩象牙韋恩斯做的。

We had Keenen Ivory Wayans in mind.

我們想到了基恩-艾弗裡-韋恩斯。

Who the is this guy?

這傢伙是誰？