Gentlemen.

先生們

First incompletions.

第一次未完成。

First in completion percentage in second in past TDs.

完成率第一，過去傳球第二。

I mean, really tops.

我的意思是，真正的上衣。

And these imperative category.

而這些必須的範疇。

So, Max, I'll ask you this.

所以，麥克斯，我會問你這個問題。

Does he belong in the top tier of best quarterbacks of all time?

他是否屬於史上最佳四分衛的第一梯隊？

Don't do this to me this morning.

今天早上不要這樣對我。

You're gonna make me this guy this morning, Molly.

你要讓我這個傢伙今天早上，莫利。

Have to.

必須這樣做

He just retired.

他剛剛退休。

His kids are there.

他的孩子在那裡。

And I admit he's a Hall of Famer and an all time great.

我承認他是名人堂成員，也是歷史上最偉大的人。

I interpret that question to mean is among the greats all time.

我對這個問題的理解是，是在所有時間的偉大人物中。

Is he in the inner sanctum of those grates?

他是在那些柵欄的內部聖地嗎？

My answer is no.

我的答案是否定的。

Again.

再來一次

I take no pleasure in saying that this morning because he just retired and I have a lot of admiration for, and I love to watch him.

今天早上我不高興說這句話，因為他剛退役，我很佩服他，我很喜歡看他。

My answer is no.

我的答案是否定的。

The inner sanctum.

內殿。

Look, guys, you should be a top.

你看，夥計們，你應該是一個頂部。

Sometimes the best quarterback in the league certainly like one of the two best quarterbacks in your era and always in the top three.

有時候聯盟中最好的四分衛當然像你們那個時代最好的兩個四分衛之一，而且總是在前三名。

It simply hasn't been the case for Drew Brees.

德魯-布里斯根本就沒有這樣的情況。

You can pretend to be shocked by that, Dan, But the fact of the matter you get to that.

你可以裝作被嚇到了，丹，但事實是，你到了那。

How do you get to that?

你是怎麼做到的？

Well, when Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, we're all in the league.

好吧，當湯姆・布雷迪和佩頓・曼寧 還有德魯・布里斯和阿倫・羅傑斯，我們都在聯盟中。

Drew Brees was fourth and among that group.

德魯-佈雷斯排在第四位，也是這群人中的一員。

And then now there's Patrick Mahomes instead of Peyton Manning, but it remains the same.

然後現在有帕特里克-馬霍姆斯代替了佩頓-曼寧，但還是一樣。

Drew Brees is an all time great love them.

德魯-布里斯是一個所有時間偉大的愛他們。

But when you talk about the very greatest of all time, he's probably in the top 10.

但當你談論有史以來最偉大的人時，他可能是前十名。

I think there's a good argument that he's right around nine or 10, But you could even argue a little bit lower.

我認為有一個很好的說法，他是正確的9或10左右， 但你甚至可以認為一點點低。

You could argue a little higher, but certainly not top five.

你可以說高一點，但肯定不是前五名。

He was never the best player in the league, almost never really the second best player in the league.

他從來都不是聯盟中最好的球員，幾乎從來都不是真正的聯盟第二好球員。

And so if you're talking about the absolute, like, who are the greatest of the greatest?

所以，如果你說的是絕對的，比如，誰是最偉大的人？

There was Brady and Peyton, and then and then Rodgers.

有布雷迪和佩頓，然後還有羅傑斯。

Brees was not quite there.

佈雷斯還沒有完全做到。

There was Montana, and if you want to talk about other guys who you might compare to Breeze and who maybe I was a little more impressed with when they were at their very best Marino, John Elway, Brett Farve, and he fits in there with those guys.

有蒙塔納，如果你想談談其他的人，你可能會與Breeze比較，也許我對他們在最好的Marino，John Elway，Brett Farve的印象更深刻一些，他適合在那裡和這些人一起。

But maybe it's not at the top of that list.

但也許它並不在這個名單的前列。

So an all time great first ballot Hall of Famer among my favorites.

所以，一個歷史上偉大的第一票名人堂成員在我的最愛中。

If you're asking me, is he in the top here of the all time, then you're forcing me to say, no, you're out of your mind.

如果你問我，他是不是在這裡的所有時間的頂部，那麼你逼著我說，不，你是瘋了。

You're out of your mind.

你瘋了嗎？

I love you.

我愛你

You're out of your mind.

你瘋了嗎？

We just rattled.

我們只是響了一下。

He's first in a bunch of statistical categories.

他是一堆統計類的第一名。

The one he's second in is behind Tom Brady.

他第二的是湯姆-布雷迪之後。

He never had a consistent defense the way that Aaron Rodgers did, or the way that Tom Brady did, or the way that Peyton Manning did.

他從來沒有像阿倫-羅傑斯那樣擁有穩定的防守，或者像湯姆-布雷迪那樣，或者像佩頓-曼寧那樣。

And you're allowing a freak play, the Minnesota miracle or horrific officiating situation against the Rams to Jade your view because he's got a ton of statistical rankings.

而你允許一個畸形的遊戲，明尼蘇達奇蹟或可怕的裁判情況對公羊隊進行玉你的觀點，因為他有大量的統計排名。

He's one of the greatest ever.

他是有史以來最偉大的人之一。

When it comes all that stuff, he's got his Super Bowl trophy.

說到這些東西，他有他的超級碗獎盃。

He revitalized the city like what else would he have needed to do to say that he's in the top tier?

他振興了這座城市，就像他還需要做什麼才能說他是第一梯隊？

That's like saying Phil Mickelson isn't in the top tier of greatest golfers ever.

這就好比說菲爾-米克爾森不在史上最偉大的高爾夫球手之列。

He is.

他是。

He just happened to do it in the same era as Tiger Woods like you can't knock Drew Brees for playing in the same era as the greatest quarterback ever.

他只是碰巧和泰格-伍茲在同一個時代打球，就像你不能因為德魯-布里斯和史上最偉大的四分衛在同一個時代打球而指責他。

But who was the fourth best golfer of the Tiger Woods era?

但誰是老虎伍茲時代的第四位最佳高爾夫球手呢？

That's the point.

這就是問題的關鍵。

What Drew Brees was usually around the fourth best quarterback in the league, sometimes the third, usually around the fourth, then.

什麼德魯-布里斯通常是聯盟第四好四分衛左右，有時是第三，通常是第四左右，然後。

So you're gonna knock them for playing in the same timeframe as are inarguably the greatest quarterback ever and arguably probably a top 23 quarterback ever in Peyton Manning.

所以你要去敲打他們在同一時間段，因為是無可爭議的最偉大的四分衛，也可以說是有史以來排名前23的四分衛佩頓-曼寧。

So you're gonna take those guys around and what, And I love Aaron and Aaron's up there for me.

所以你要帶著這些人到處走走，我愛亞倫，亞倫也在那裡等著我。

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Why is Aaron ahead of him?

為什麼亞倫在他前面？

Because he's more talented because they have the same amount of Super Bowl trophies.

因為他更有天賦，因為他們擁有同樣數量的超級碗獎盃。

Drew Brees has more Rogers.

德魯-布里斯有更多的羅傑斯。

But why?

但為什麼呢？

Why, Why?

為什麼，為什麼？

Because we're here.

因為我們在這裡。

Aaron Rodgers presence on his team means the odds makers make the Packers among the favorites with the Super Bowl.

阿倫-羅傑斯在他的球隊中的存在意味著賠率制定者讓包裝工成為超級碗的熱門之一。

They have Aaron Rodgers, Max because Rodgers Aaron Rodgers consistently had better defenses than Drew Brees consent.

他們有阿倫-羅傑斯、馬克斯，因為羅傑斯阿倫-羅傑斯的防守一直比德魯-佈雷斯同意好。

Drew Brees played half his games in a dome where he put up great numbers like I don't want to like.

德魯-布里斯在球館裡打了一半的比賽，他在那裡打出了很棒的數據，就像我不想喜歡一樣。

He's an all time great.

他是一個偉大的時代。

But when we're talking about the uppermost crust, the guy should have probably multiple M V P awards usually be considered the best, or maybe the second best quarterback in the league.

但當我們談論最上層的地殼時，這個傢伙應該可能有多個M V P獎通常被認為是最好的，或者可能是聯盟中第二好的四分衛。

Not usually fourth, or maybe sometimes third like.

通常不是第四種，也許有時是第三種喜歡。

And by the way, passing stats in this era have gone through the roof.

順便說一句，這個時代的傳球數據已經到了頂點。

Of course, the numbers are going to look better for the quarterbacks of this era.

當然，這個時代的四分衛的數據會更好看。

First of all, I think it's important that both of you just calm down.

首先，我認為重要的是，你們兩個都要冷靜下來。

There's no need to be this emotion of this early.

沒有必要這麼早的這種情緒。

I mean, you really, really need to just calm it down just dollar than just a little bit there.

我的意思是，你真的，真的需要 只是平靜下來，只是美元 比只是一點點有。

That's number one number two.

這是一號二號。

Here's the one thing that I will say Dan Orlovsky.

這是我要說的一件事，丹-奧洛夫斯基。

I do not have Drew Brees, um, as as a top five quarterback of all time because of that second Super Bowl championship that escaped him.

我沒有把德魯-布里斯，嗯，作為所有時間的前五名四分衛，因為那第二個超級碗冠軍，逃過了他。

Me personally, I definitely have from top 10 all time.

我個人認為，我絕對有從前十名的所有時間。

I definitely have him as a future first ballot Hall of Famer.

我絕對認為他是未來的第一選票名人堂成員。

He's one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, and I don't think there's anything that's needs that to be considered top 10 all time.

他是NFL歷史上最偉大的四分衛之一，我不認為有什麼是需要被認為是歷史前十的。

Okay, when we talk about top five, I think it's debatable.

好吧，當我們談論前五名的時候，我認為這是值得商榷的。

But I think when it comes to Drew Brees, that is the only thing that's available.

但我認為當談到德魯-布里斯時，這是唯一可用的東西。

That that's debatable.

這一點值得商榷。

I don't think there's anything else about him that's debatable.

我不認為他還有什麼值得商榷的地方。

Based on his resume.

根據他的履歷。

When you're number one in passing yards, when you're number one in touchdowns or completions as well, when you're number one of those categories when you've got a Super Bowl championship, when your career level of accuracy equates it around 67% When you spent the vast majority of the of the last decade completing over 70% of your passes, Uh, in history, I'm sorry every season.

當你的傳球碼數是第一，當你的達陣或完成率也是第一，當你是這些類別中的第一，當你拿到超級碗冠軍，當你的職業生涯準確率水準相當於67%左右的時候，當你在過去十年的絕大多數時間裡完成了超過70%的傳球，呃，在歷史上，對不起，每個賽季都是如此。

I just look at it from the standpoint that he's definitely one of the all time greats, his lack of mobility and what have you.

我只是從他絕對是歷史上最偉大的球員之一的角度來看，他的行動力不足什麼的。

Of course, Dan Marino had that same issue along with Dan Falls and others.

當然，丹-馬裡諾和丹-福爾斯等人也有同樣的問題。

We get that, but I think that in today's era, you can hold that against Drew Brees to some degree, but again only as it pertains to Super Bowl championships or lack there of the fact is, if you're a man Rogers, and you're watching some place you need to look at look, Drew Brees career, because we might be saying the same thing about you.

我們得到了，但我認為，在今天的時代，你可以在一定程度上對德魯-布里斯舉行，但再次只有當它涉及到超級碗冠軍或缺乏的事實是，如果你是一個人羅傑斯，你正在看一些地方，你需要看看看看，德魯-布里斯的職業生涯，因為我們可能會對你說同樣的事情。

If Aaron Rodgers has another Super Bowl title or two, we might call him the greatest quarterback ever.

如果阿倫-羅傑斯再拿一兩個超級碗冠軍，我們可能會稱他為史上最偉大的四分衛。

From a talent perspective, a lot of us feel that way already, but we might be talking about that.

從人才的角度來說，我們很多人已經有這樣的感覺了，但是我們可能說的是。

But the reason why it's not something that we even discuss is because one Super Bowl championship, the last one coming in 2000 and 10, is just not good enough for somebody of his caliber.

但為什麼這不是我們甚至討論的東西，因為一個超級碗冠軍，最後一個是在2000年和10年，對於他這種級別的人來說，是不夠好的。

Well, Drew Brees got the Super Bowl championship the year before, and that was his only Super Bowl championship.

好吧，德魯-布里斯在前一年拿到了超級碗冠軍，那是他唯一的超級碗冠軍。

Even though there was some flute plays that happened, there were no fault of his own that prevented him from getting a second.

雖然發生了一些笛子戲，但並沒有因為自己的過錯而無法得到第二次。

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