I want to talk about all sports.

我想談談所有的運動。

These are Stephen A in Max's list.

這些是麥克斯名單中的斯蒂芬-A。

I'm sure yours will be a little bit different.

我相信你的會有一點不同。

But, Kimberly, let's start with you.

但是，金佰利，讓我們從你開始。

Who's on your top five goat list in all sports?

在所有運動項目中，誰是你的五大山羊名單？

Okay, here we go.

好了，我們開始吧。

MJ like that for me.

MJ這樣的我。

Number one.

第一。

And I'm that girl who had the dunk, the John starts poster on her wall growing up.

而我就是那個從小就在牆上貼著扣籃、約翰開始的海報的女孩。

And I still loved MJ.

而我還是喜歡MJ。

Um, just because even if you hated him, even if you hated your team having a plan, you had to respect his game, right?

嗯，只是因為即使你討厭他，即使你討厭你的球隊有計劃，你也不得不尊重他的比賽，對嗎？

Next.

下一個

Uh, not This is not any particular order.

呃，不，這不是任何特定的順序。

So don't come at me on Twitter.

所以，不要在微博上來找我。

Next, Tom Brady.

下一個，湯姆-布雷迪。

Because even as all this Tom Brady is, he still walks around like he's that sixth round pick.

因為即便是這樣的湯姆-布雷迪，他走起路來還是像那個第六輪選秀權一樣。

This man just came off a Super Bowl win, and you know what he's thinking about.

這個人剛贏了超級碗，你知道他在想什麼。

How am I going to get another one?

我怎麼再去買一個？

And that's why he's the goat.

這就是為什麼他是山羊。

Serena Williams.

Serena Williams

What more do I need to say?

我還需要說什麼？

Now?

現在？

Here's where it gets interesting.

這就是有趣的地方了。

I think China will find this interesting.

我想中國會覺得這很有趣。

I have Babe Ruth.

我有貝比魯斯。

You know why?

你知道為什麼嗎？

Because what other athlete has a curse named after him?

因為還有哪個運動員是以他的名字命名的詛咒？

You know what I'm saying?

你知道我在說什麼嗎？

Like if you are that good, that an entire franchise and a fan base is saying like Red Sox fans was like, We're cursed because we traded that week.

就像如果你是那麼好， 整個特許經營權和球迷基礎 是說像紅襪隊的球迷一樣，我們被詛咒 因為我們交易的那個星期。

Paid for that man to go play for the Yankees.

花錢讓那個人去洋基隊打球。

Then you gotta be all type.

那你得是所有類型的。

Go right.

向右走

And the last one, Wayne Gretzky.

還有最後一個，韋恩-格雷茨基。

Now I've covered some hockey in my day.

現在，我已經覆蓋了一些冰球在我的一天。

It might not look like I have, but I have.

它可能看起來不像我，但我有。

And if your nickname is the great one, you damn sure better be on the Mount Rushmore of athletes.

如果你的綽號是偉大的，你他媽的最好是在拉什莫爾山的運動員。

So, Wayne Gretzky, that dude, he was the man when he was nine years old, and he grew up to become the greatest hockey player of all time.

所以，韋恩-格雷茨基，那個傢伙，他九歲的時候就是男人，他長大後成為了最偉大的冰球運動員。

So that's my list.

所以這就是我的名單。

Well, you guys today, all right?

好了，你們今天，好嗎？

That's a pretty solid list.

這是一個相當可靠的名單。

That's a pretty good list.

這是一個相當不錯的名單。

And, you know, being great is awesome, and I'm going to switch it up for mine a little bit.

而且，你知道，偉大的是真棒，我要把它換成我的一點。

I'm gonna start where you started, Kimberly.

我要從你開始的地方開始，金佰利。

Obviously.

很明顯

Michael Jordan.

邁克爾-喬丹。

The same way I gave props to Lisa Leslie, not too long ago when we talked about our goats in the women's game.

就像不久前我們談論我們的山羊在女子比賽中的表現一樣，我也給麗莎-萊斯利點贊。

You know, being at the intersection of the game, transitioning That's MJ.

你知道，是在遊戲的交叉點，過渡 那是MJ。

So you have to be happy for that again.

所以你又要為之高興。

Six Finals and LeBron James is chasing that standard, which has made this whole conversation super fun.

六次總決賽，勒布朗-詹姆斯正在追逐這個標準，這讓整個對話變得超級有趣。

I am the greatest Mohammed Ali.

我是最偉大的穆罕默德-阿里。

I mean, the only three time final heavyweight champion in boxing history.

我是說，拳擊史上唯一的三次重量級決賽冠軍。

Not just for what he did, you know, with his time as an athlete, but what he stood for and meant to our culture in a time that really needed him the most.

不只是因為他做了什麼，你知道， 與他的時間作為一個運動員， 但他代表什麼，意味著我們的文化 在一個時間，真正需要他最。

And then, of course, I got to agree with you on Tom Brady there.

當然，我也同意你對湯姆・布雷迪的看法。

So this is, you know, you guys know I'm on Tarango junior for Eastern on ESPN Radio.

所以，這是，你們知道，你們知道我在ESPN電臺的東方塔蘭戈少年。

You guys join me here all the time, Marcus Spirits coming through with it with the truth.

你們和我一起在這裡所有的時間，馬庫斯精神來通過它與真理。

Kimberly and Martin joining in.

金佰利和馬丁加入。

And so you guys know I have been all in on football this year, you know, I'm from Texas, so it's sort of in my blood and the fact that Tom Brady, at age 43 has already seven Super Bowls and I'm looking at the way the NFC is set up, he can make a run again next year, which is wild.

所以你們知道，今年我一直都在關注橄欖球，你們知道，我來自德克薩斯，所以它算是融入了我的血液，事實上，湯姆-布雷迪，在43歲的時候已經拿到了7個超級碗，我看NFC的設置方式，他明年還能再來一次，這很瘋狂。

He's on the list.

他在名單上

I have Tiger Woods, and I know and soon Serena Williams are sort of the same type of argument for what they sort of did transforming the sport.

我有老虎伍茲，我知道，很快塞雷娜-威廉姆斯是那種相同類型的論點，他們的排序做了改造運動。

I mean, obviously it was a scary time not too long ago, about two weeks ago dealing with the car crash.

我的意思是，顯然這是一個可怕的時間 不久前，大約兩個星期前 處理車禍。

But we all were able to, you know, celebrate and rally behind what he has meant to the sport, knowing that we may not see much more, you know, in the future.

但我們都能夠，你知道，慶祝並團結在他對這項運動的意義背後，知道我們可能不會看到更多，你知道，在未來。

But we're still rooting for him in his recovery and the way he has been able to win from the child prodigy and then delivering very similar in a way that we talk about LeBron James being that young kid from Akron that sort of has delivered and still is going.

但我們仍然支持他的康復，他已經能夠從兒童神童中獲勝，然後提供非常類似的方式，我們談論勒布朗-詹姆斯是那個來自阿克倫的年輕孩子，那種已經交付，仍然是去。

What Tiger Woods has done, you know, for the game of golf has just inspired so many.

泰格-伍茲為高爾夫運動所做的一切，你知道的，只是激勵了很多人。

And then I think Serena was last on my list, right, and she did the same thing for tennis but men in a dominant fashion and she sort of changed.

然後我想塞雷娜是我名單上的最後一個，對吧，她為網球做了同樣的事情，但男人以一種主導的方式，她有點改變。

Not just how we perceive, you know, athletes overall, but women, allowing them to be fierce and female and competitive.

不僅僅是我們如何看待，你知道，運動員總體上，而是女性，讓她們變得凶猛，女性和競爭。

And she's still going as well, which is really fun.

她也還在走，真的很有意思。

So rare that we get to see Tom Brady and Serena Williams still compete to this day.

所以難得我們能看到湯姆-布雷迪和塞雷娜-威廉姆斯至今還在競爭。

So we really have to appreciate that.

所以我們真的要好好珍惜。

Yeah, I love both of y'all.

是啊，我愛你們兩個。

Listen, we trended in the same direction.

聽著，我們的趨勢是一致的。

I have Ali, who I believe is the greatest of all time in any sport.

我有阿里，我相信他是所有運動中最偉大的。

So that's actually a separation for me when we have a goat conversation.

所以，這其實是我和山羊對話時的一種分離。

To me, Ali is the goat of goats, all right, and then I have Serena.

對我來說，阿里是山羊中的山羊，好吧，然後我還有Serena。

Obviously you guys have pointed it out.

顯然你們已經指出了。

But I know like like the most impressive thing that I've seen Serena Williams do is continue to have a level of consistency in her play, even when she didn't win the championships or win the majors in the in in what she competed in.

但我知道像像最令人印象深刻的事情，我已經看到塞雷娜-威廉姆斯做的是繼續有一個水準的一致性，在她的發揮，即使當她沒有贏得冠軍或贏得大滿貫的在在她競爭的。

And then let's not even get started about coming back from giving birth and ball in the way she bawled on the court and then Tom Brady and Tom Brady is simple for me.

然後讓我們甚至沒有開始關於從分娩和球回來的方式，她在球場上嚎啕大哭，然後湯姆布雷迪和湯姆布雷迪對我來說很簡單。

Tom Brady forces his way into this conversation.

湯姆-布雷迪強行進入了這個話題。

He's 17 Super Bowls.

他是17個超級碗。

That's the hardest thing to do than any other person on my list.

這是我名單上最難做的事情，比其他任何人都難。

I'm telling y'all, and it's not because I'm a football guy is so many moving parts in order for you to win that many championships and have your type of imprint on it.

我告訴你們，這並不是因為我是個橄欖球人，而是為了讓你們贏得那麼多的冠軍，並在上面留下你們的印記，有那麼多的活動部件。

Next.

下一個

LeBron James for me, like if we encompassing everything LeBron James.

勒布朗-詹姆斯對我來說，就像如果我們囊括了勒布朗-詹姆斯的一切。

Obviously, we know what he is on the court and then no particular order because I don't feel like arguing with people over this.

很明顯，我們知道他在法庭上是什麼，然後沒有特別的順序，因為我不喜歡與人爭論這個問題。

But LeBron James has a school right now where kids are going.

但勒布朗-詹姆斯現在有一所學校，孩子們都在那裡上學。

There's a school.

有一所學校。

There's a college in Akron where they are going to school for free.

在阿克倫有一所大學，他們是免費上學的。

We know about his athletic feats and accomplishments, and we really don't have a great appreciation for it because he's still in the middle of writing that story.

我們知道他的運動功績和成就，我們真的沒有很好的體會，因為他還在寫那個故事的過程中。

And then MJ MJ changed the landscape of how we view athletes.

而後MJ MJ改變了我們對運動員的看法。

He was the first guy that crossed to me to popularity in in in a generation just before man, but old enough to understand where it was more than just basketball.

他是第一個越過我在在人前的一代人中流行的傢伙，但老到明白它不只是籃球的地方。

When you talked about Michael Jordan, it had it had so much more to do than six championships and what he had accomplished.

當你談到邁克爾-喬丹時，它有它有這麼多的事情比六個冠軍和他所取得的成就。

Jordan is a thing of himself.

喬丹是自己的東西。

So he that's my all time ghost list.

所以，他這是我的所有時間的鬼名單。

Look at you putting both of them on the same list.

你看你把他們兩個放在同一個名單上。

LeBron and Michael Jordan.

勒布朗和邁克爾-喬丹。

You don't want to smoke.

你不想抽菸。

He doesn't want to smoke.

他不想抽菸。

He doesn't.

他沒有

He doesn't want to hear from anybody.

他不想從任何人那裡聽到。

He already said it.

他已經說了。

Do not come at Marcus today.

今天不要來馬庫斯。

He is not here for it.

他不是為這個來的。

I think all of you had really goodness, but I think I personally If I have to side with one person on here, it's all love everybody.

我覺得大家都有真的好，但我覺得我個人如果要在這裡站在一個人這邊，那就是愛大家。

China, You got my vote.

中國，我投你一票。

Best goat list.

最佳山羊名單。

Best go list.

最佳走單。

That's right.

是的

That's right.

是的

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