LATE SHOW."

晚間秀。"

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS AN EMMY AWARD-WINNING ACTOR AND RAPPER

我今晚的嘉賓是艾美獎獲獎演員和說唱歌手。

YOU KNOW FROM "NIGHTCRAWLER," "ROGUE ONE," AND "THE NIGHT OF."

你從 "夜魔俠"、"羅格一號 "和 "黑夜 "中認識的。

HE NOW STARS IN THE FILM "SOUND OF METAL."

他現在出演電影 "金屬之聲"。

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW," RIZ AHMED.

歡迎回到 "深夜秀"，RIZ AHMED。

RIZ, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

RIZ，謝謝你來這裡。

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, MAN.

>> 謝謝你請我來，夥計。

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

很高興再次見到你。

>> Stephen: RIZ, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BAFTA

>> Stephen:RIZ，首先，恭喜你獲得英國電影學院獎。

NOMINATION.

提名：

THAT WAS JUST THIS MORNING, RIGHT?

那是今天早上的事，對吧？

>> YEAH, YEAH, IT WAS.

>> 是的，是的，是這樣的。

THANK YOU, THANKS A LOT.

謝謝你，非常感謝。

WE GOT A COUPLE OF NOMINATIONS FOR "SOUND OF METAL" AND "MOOGLE

我們獲得了 "金屬之聲 "和 "MOOGLE "的多項提名。

MOGLI" THAT ISN'T OUT IN THE U.S. BUT CAME OUT IN THE U.K. SO

"MOGLI "沒有在美國出現，但在英國出現了。

IT WAS COOL.

它是很酷的。

>> Stephen: I LIKE HEARING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE HEARD THEY GOT

>> 史蒂芬：我喜歡聽人說他們是如何得到的。

THE NOMINATION?

提名？

WERE YOU EXPECTING IT?

你期待它嗎？

WERE YOU WAITING TO FIND OUT, OR IT WAS A TOTAL SURPRISE AND YOU

你是在等待發現，還是完全的驚喜，你？

DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS WAS HAPPENING TODAY?

沒想到今天會發生這樣的事嗎？

>> I MEAN, YOU CAN'T REALLY BE EXPECTING IT.

>> 我的意思是，你不可能真的期待它。

THERE ARE NO PROMISES IN LIFE ANYMORE, RIGHT.

生活中再也沒有承諾了，對吧。

EVERYTHING IS SO UNPREDICTABLE.

一切都是那麼的難以預料。

BUT IT'S-- YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE ON LONDON TIME, AND I'M OUT ON

但是... ... 你知道，這就像在倫敦時間，而我在外面。

THE WEST COAST, SO IT HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

西海岸，所以它發生在半夜。

SO IT WAS KIND OF GOOD IN A WAY.

所以在某種程度上，它是一種好的。

YOU CAN SLEEP THROUGH ANY OF THE ANXIETY, AND YOU WAKE UP AND SEE

你可以在任何焦慮中入睡，而你醒來後就能看到。

IF THERE'S A BUNCH OF TEXT MESSAGES ON YOUR PHONE.

如果你的手機上有一大堆的簡訊，

>> Stephen: SO YOU LOOK AT YOUR PHONE, AND IT'S JUST

>> 所以你看你的手機，它只是。

STACKED WITH MESSAGES AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING GOOD MUST HAVE

充滿了資訊，你知道一些好的東西必須要有。

HAPPENED?

發生了什麼？

>> SOMETHING GOOD OR SOMETHING REALLY BAD.

>> 好事或壞事。

THAT'S THE ISSUE, RIGHT?

這就是問題所在，對吧？

LOOKING AT YOUR PHONE YOU SEE ALL THESE NOTIFICATIONS AND

看著你的手機，你會看到所有這些通知，並。

YOU'RE LIKE, "I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THAT.

你就像，"我不知道我是否要去看那個。

IT COULD GO EITHER WAY."

它可以走兩種方式。"

>> Stephen: THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH YEAR.

>> 史蒂芬：今年是艱難的一年。

I WAS JUST SAYING EARLIER TODAY, THIS FRIDAY WILL BE A YEAR SINCE

我今天早些時候還在說，這個星期五將是一年前的事了。

WE HAD TO LEAVE OUR THEATER BECAUSE OF COVID INFECTIONS HERE

因為這裡的病毒感染，我們不得不離開我們的劇院。

IN THE UNITED STATES.

在美國，

AND THIS YEAR HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT FOR SO

今年是一個異常艱難的一年，所以。

MANY PEOPLE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BROUGHT YOU AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT

很多人，但它實際上已經給你帶來了巨大的財富。

OF SUCCESS AND GOOD NEWS.

的成功和好消息。

YOU RELEASED A NEW ALBUM, TWO FILMS, YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE

你發行了一張新專輯，兩部電影，你還和美國人合作。

OBAMAS ON A FILM ADAPTATION.

奧巴馬的電影改編。

YOU SIGNED AN AMAZON PRODUCTION DEAL, AND, BEST OF ALL, YOU GOT

你簽署了亞馬遜生產協議，而且，最重要的是，你獲得了

MARRIED.

結婚：

HOW DID YOU MAKE SENSE OF-- OF THE MANY UPS AND THE DOWNS OF

你是如何理解... ... 眾多的上上下下。

THIS YEAR FOR YOU?

今年對你來說？

>> IT'S CRAZY, ISN'T IT?

>> 這很瘋狂，不是嗎？

BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND, YEAH, IT HAS BEEN A REALLY DIFFICULT

因為一方面，是的，這是一個非常困難的。

YEAR.

年。

AS YOU CAN TELL, I'M A BIT OF A WORKAHOLIC.

你可以告訴我，我是一個有點工作狂的人。

I HAVE TROUBLE SITTING STILL.

我有問題坐著不動。

I ALWAYS WANT TO BE DOING SOMETHING.

我總是想做一些事情。

THE TOUGHEST THING FOR ME THIS YEAR WAS SITTING BY MYSELF AND

對我來說，今年最困難的事情就是坐在自己身邊。

KIND OF BEING FORCED TO DO SOMETHING, WHICH IS IN SOME WAYS

一種被迫做某事，這在某種程度上是

A PRIVILEGE THAT I'M NOT OUT THERE LIKE THESE DOCTORS AND

我不像這些醫生和護士一樣在外面，這是一種特權。

NURSES SAVING LIVES, SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

護士救人，所以我很感激。

ONE OF THE THINGS THE QUIET BROUGHT ME IS THE CLARITY ON

寧靜帶給我的東西之一，就是清晰的感覺。

WHERE WE SPEND OUR TIME AND ENERGY.

我們把時間和精力花在哪裡？

I THINK A LOT OF US HAD THE REALIZATION THAT WE SPEND A LOT

我想我們很多人都意識到，我們花了很多錢。

OF TIME CHASING STUFF WHICH IN THE END DOESN'T MATTER.

的時間追逐的東西，其中在最後並不重要。

WHAT MATTERS IS YOUR WELL-BEING, YOUR HEALTH, AND YOUR CONNECTION

最重要的是你的健康，你的健康，和你的聯繫。

TORGS AND IT HAS GIVEN ME MORE CLARITY ON THE KIND OF WORK I

這讓我更加明確了我的工作類型。

WANT TO BE DOING.

想做。

EVEN THOUGH IT STOPPED ME IN MY TRACTION, IT GAVE ME A LOT OF

儘管它阻止了我的行動，但它卻給了我很多東西

CLARITY AND I FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THAT AND MAKE A BUNCH OF WORK

清晰和我遵循了這一點，做了大量的工作。

THAT REPRESENTS WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

這代表了我現在的處境。

>> Stephen: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GREAT ABOUT MUSIC IS YOU

>> 史蒂芬：音樂最棒的地方之一就是你。

CAN DO IT ANYWHERE.

可以在任何地方做。

YOU CAN DO IT BY YOURSELF.

你可以自己做。

YOU CAN DO IT IN COLLABORATION, BY SENDING FILES TO EACH OTHER.

你可以通過合作，通過發送文件給對方來完成。

WERE YOU ABLE TO PUT SOME OF YOUR FOCUS INTO THAT BECAUSE

你能把你的一些重點放在這上面，是因為... ...

NORMAL TELEVISION OR FILM PRODUCTION WAS SO CURTAILED?

正常的電視劇或電影製作都被如此限制？

>> THAT WAS A PART OF IT, YEAH.

>> 這也是其中的一部分，是的。

ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO DO WAS TOUR MY ALBUM, "THE LONG

我打算做的其中一件事就是巡演我的專輯《長長的》。

GOOD-BYE."

再見。"

OBVIOUSLY, COVID SHUT THAT DOWN.

很明顯，科維德把它關了。

WE DID A LIVE STREAM PERFORMANCE FROM AN ABANDONED THEATER IN SAN

我們在舊金山一個廢棄的劇院進行了現場直播表演。

FRANCISCO AND I FILMED IT MYSELF.

弗朗西斯科和我自己拍的。

WE ENDED UP-- SOMETIMES THE LIMITATIONS MAKE YOU INNOVATIVE.

我們最後... 有時候限制會讓你變得有創新力。

I MADE A ONE-MAN SHOW, KIND OF A GIG, KIND OF LIKE A SHORT FILM,

我做了一個人的表演，有點像一場演出，有點像一部短片。

BECAUSE WE FILMED IT.

因為我們拍攝了它。

SO, YEAH, IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.

所以，是的，它是一種有趣的。

BUT FOR ME, THE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR KEPT BRINGING ME

但對我來說，這一年帶給我的，你知道的，一直是

BACK TO IS LIKE, REALLY, WHAT'S POINT?

回到是喜歡，真的，什麼是重點？

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE BIG PICTURE THAT'S SO SCARY RIGHT

你知道嗎，有一個很大的圖片 這是非常可怕的，對不對？

NOW.

現在。

LIKE, YOU BETTER BE MAKING WORK THAT YOU THINK MAKES SOME KIND

就像，你最好做的工作，你認為有一定的意義。

OF DIFFERENCE OR MEANS SOMETHING TO YOU.

對你來說是不同的或意味著什麼。

AND FOR ME, YOU KNOW, BOTH "SOUND OF METAL" OR "LONG

而對我來說，你知道，無論是 "金屬之聲 "還是 "長"。

GOOD-BYE" THEY'RE TRYING TO REMIND US THERE'S NO SUCH THING

"再見"，他們想提醒我們沒有這樣的事情。

AS "US" AND "THEM," WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO HOLD ON TO IN SUCH

作為 "我們 "和 "他們"，這是很重要的保持在這樣的。

A DIVIDED TIME.

一個分裂的時代。

IT'S JUST US.

這只是我們。

THAT'S WHAT ALL STORIES REMIND YOU, YOU START OFF WATCHING A

這就是所有的故事提醒你，你開始看一個

CHARACTER THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T RELATE TO AND IS SO

你覺得自己無法親近的角色，而且是如此。

DIFFERENT FROM YOU, AND AT THE END OF IT, YOU REALIZE THERE'S A

和你不一樣，最後，你會意識到有一個

KIND OF CORE OF EMOTION AND HUMANITY THAT WE ALL SHARE.

一種我們共同的情感和人性的核心。

AND SO, I GUESS I FEEL REALLY CLEAR THAT I WANT TO BE MAKING

所以，我想我覺得我很清楚，我想做的

WORK LIKE THAT THAT REMINDS US WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER.

像這樣的工作，讓我們想起我們是在一起的。

>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT "SOUND OF METAL."

>> 讓我們來談談 "金屬之聲"。

YOUR PERFORMANCE, AS I SAID, THE BAFTA NOMINATION THIS MORNING,

你的表現，就像我說的，今天早上的BAFTA提名。

IS GETTING GREAT PRAISE.

是得到了巨大的讚譽。

WHO DO YOU PLAY?

你要和誰玩？

AND WHAT'S IT ABOUT?

那是什麼意思？

>> YEAH, IT WAS A PROJECT SO CLOSE TO MY HEART, SO LUCKY TO

>> 是的，這是個離我心很近的項目，很幸運地找到了。

BE A PART OF.

成為其中的一員。

IT'S BY A FIRST-TIME DIRECTOR CALLED DARIUS MARDER, WHO IS A

是由一個叫DARIUS MARDER的導演第一次執導的，他是一個。

LEGIT GENIUS.

合法的天才。

AND THE MOVIE IS THE STORY OF RUBEN WHO IS KIND OF A PUNK

這部電影是關於魯本的故事，他是個小混混。

METAL DRUMMER WHO SUDDENLY LOSES HIS HEARING.

偶然失去聽力的金屬鼓手。

AND WHEN HE LOSES HIS HEARING, HE LOSE HIS IDENTITY, HIS JOB,

而當他失去聽力時，他就失去了身份，失去了工作。

AND HIS RELATIONSHIP, BECAUSE HIS BANDMATE IS HIS GIRLFRIEND.

和他的關係， 因為他的隊友是他的女朋友。

THEY LIVE TOGETHER IN A MOBILE STUDIO RV.

他們一起住在移動工作室的房車裡。

HIS WORLD FALLS APART.

他的世界崩潰了。

AND KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN GOOG THROUGH WITH COVID, THE

和我們已經GOOG通過與COVID，的那種。

HEALTH CRISIS FORCES HIM INTO A KIND OF LOCKDOWN AND GOES TO A

健康危機迫使他陷入了一種鎖定狀態，並去了一個。

REHAB CENTER AND FORCES HIM TO REASSESS WHAT MATTER S.

康復中心，並迫使他重新評估什麼重要的S。

>> Stephen: WE HAVE A CLIP HERE.

>> 我們有一個片段在這裡。

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON GEE YEAH, SO THIS IS THE POINT

你能告訴我們發生了什麼事嗎？ 是的，所以這是重點。

IN THE MOVIE WHERE RUBEN IS TRYING TO GET A COCHLEAR IMPLANT

在電影中，魯本試圖得到一個耳蝸植入物。

SURGERY, WHICH STIMULATES YOUR BRAIN AND HE PUT A LOT ON THE

手術，其中刺激你的大腦，他把很多的。

LINE TO TRY TO GET HIS HEARING BACK.

線試圖讓他的聽力恢復。

>> Stephen: JIM.

>> 史蒂芬：JIM。

>> Stephen: YOU-- YOU SPENT SEVEN MONTHS PREPARING FOR THIS

>> 你... 你花了7個月的時間來準備這一切。

FILM, LEARNING AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE.

電影，學習美國手語。

WHAT WAS THAT PROCESS LIKE?

這個過程是怎樣的？

AND WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU LEARNED ABOUT THE DEAF

你從大夫身上學到的最重要的東西是什麼？

COMMUNITY?

社區？

>> IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST ENRICHING AND MIND-BLOWING

>> 這是最充實和震撼人心的一次。

EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE.

我的人生經歷。

I'M SO GRATEFUL TO MY SIGN INSTRUCTOR, JEREMY LEE STONE,

我非常感謝我的簽名導師JEREMY LEE STONE。

WHO WAS MY MENTOR AND INTRODUCING ME TO DEAF CULTURE.

誰是我的導師，並把我介紹給了荒誕文化。

THE BIG TAKEAWAY FOR ME IS DEAFNESS ISN'T A DISABILITY.

對我來說，最大的啟示是殘疾不是一種殘疾。

IT'S A CULTURE.

這是一種文化。

IT'S A WAY OF BEING IN THE WORLD.

這是一種存在於世界的方式。

YOU KNOW, DEAF PEOPLE AREN'T HEARING IMPAIRED.

你知道，聾人沒有聽力障礙。

WE'RE IMPAIRED BECAUSE WE DON'T SPEAK SIGN LANGUAGE.

我們是殘障人士，因為我們不會說手語。

SIGN LANGUAGE IS SUCH A-- SUCH A RICH FORM OF EXPRESSION.

手語是一種... 一種豐富的表達方式。

I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE THE DEAF COMMUNITY TAUGHT ME THE TRUE

我真的覺得像 DEAF 社區教我真正的。

MEANING OF LISTENING.

傾聽的含義。

LISTENING ISN'TI ISN'T SOMETHING WITH YOUR EARS YOU DO IT WITH

聽力不是用耳朵來聽，而是用耳朵來做。

YOUR ENERGY AND HOLDING SPACE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S ENERGY.

你的能量，為別人的能量留出空間。

JEREMY TAUGHT ME THERE'S A SAYING IN THE DEAF COMMUNITY,

傑里米告訴我，有一個說法 在DEF社區。

HEARING PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONALLY REPRESSED BECAUSE WE HIND BEHIND

聽得見的人在情感上受到壓抑，因為我們在後面。

WORDS.

詞：

WE USE WORDS TO HIDE OUR FEELINGS.

我們用語言來掩飾我們的感情。

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT UNTIL I BECAME MORE FLUENT

我不知道這意味著什麼，直到我變得更加流暢

IN SIGN LANGUAGE, AND I TEARED UP WITH SIGN LANGUAGE.

用手語，而我卻用手語淚流滿面。

WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING IN SIGN IT'S SO MUCH MORE CONNECTED AND

當你用手語說話的時候，會更有聯繫，更有感覺

VISCERAL, AND YOU EMBODY WHAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING.

有血有肉，你體現了你所傳達的東西。

I LEARNED SIGN LANGUAGE, BUT I ALSO LEARNED WHAT REAL

我學會了手語，但我也學會了什麼是真正的。

COMMUNICATION IS WHAT REAL LISTENING IS FROM THE DEAF

溝通才是真正的聽覺，才是真正的恐懼。

COMMUNITY, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

社區，我很感激。

>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FACILITY YOU HAVE FOR

>> 斯蒂芬：我不知道你有多大的能力，你有什麼好的建議？

LANGUAGES, BUT TAKING UP ANOTHER LANGUAGE, ESPECIALLY THAT HAS A

語言，但採取另一種語言，特別是有一個。

DIFFERENT FORM OF VOCABULARY THAN THOSE