So Dan Graziano, we just sort of set that as the baseline beginning of the conversation.

所以Dan Graziano，我們只是把它設定為對話的基線開始。

What is the latest as far as Russell Wilson and Seattle?

拉塞爾-威爾遜和西雅圖的最新情況如何？

Yeah, checking in with as recently as yesterday with people in Seattle, nothing's changed on their end.

是啊，昨天和西雅圖的人聯繫了一下，他們那邊沒什麼變化。

They're still proceeding as if he's going to be their quarterback.

他們還在進行，好像他將成為他們的四分衛。

They're not interested in trading him, and they don't necessarily think it has or will reach a point where he will force their hand.

他們對交易他不感興趣，他們也不一定認為已經或者會達到他逼迫他們出手的地步。

This is not a Shawn Watson Houston Texans situation at this point, so it seems like much ado about nothing.

現在這不是肖恩-沃森休斯頓德州人隊的情況，所以這似乎是小題大做。

All letters not withstanding.

所有的字母都不存在。

I can't I can't say that everything is perfect or that there's no chance anything will happen this offseason.

我不能我不能說一切都很完美，也不能說這個休賽期沒有任何機會發生。

But I think the strong likelihood is that Russell Wilson is the Seahawks quarterback in 2021.

但我認為大概率是拉塞爾-威爾遜是2021年海鷹隊的四分衛。

The three remaining teams, for what it's worth from the list that the agent gave to Schefty that he'd be willing to be traded to are the Bears, the Raiders and the Saints.

剩下的三支球隊，從經紀人給謝夫蒂的名單來看，他願意被交易到的球隊是熊隊、突襲者隊和聖徒隊。

David Pollack, you're watching all this go on.

大衛-波拉克，你在看這一切的發生

What is your take on the Seahawks right now?

你對現在的海鷹隊有什麼看法？

And Russell Wilson?

Russell Wilson呢？

It feels really petty, doesn't it?

感覺真的很小氣，不是嗎？

Like it's It's interesting.

就像它的... ...它的有趣。

It's very soft right now, like it's hey, my offensive line in that good.

現在很軟，就像它的嘿，我的進攻線在那麼好。

I want to open it up and then, you know, we're not going to talk about you in this video.

我想打開它，然後，你知道，我們不會在這個視頻中談論你。

It just feels like it's gonna end poorly.

只是感覺結局會很糟糕。

Um, you know, we've we've we've seen Russell Wilson be the consummate Seahawk and, um, you know, be the guy that stands in front of everybody, be a great leader, make play after play after play.

你知道，我們已經... 我們已經看到拉塞爾・威爾遜是一個完美的海鷹... ...是一個站在大家面前的人，是一個偉大的領袖，打了一場又一場的比賽。

And now it seems like it's a little shots back and forth between them and ownership, and it appears like he's not happy, you know, he's got, he's got a fiance, but he's looking at other girls really, really intently, and I think that now it's, uh, it's something's going to happen.

現在看來，這是一個小鏡頭來回 他們之間的所有權， 它看起來像他不高興， 你知道，他有，他有一個未婚夫， 但他看著其他女孩 真的，真的很專注， 我認為，現在它的，呃，它的東西要發生。

I just I know that the money right now probably won't work for it to happen this year, but it doesn't feel like it did before.

我只是我知道，現在的錢可能今年就不行了，但感覺不像以前那樣了。

All this started where I knew Russell Wilson like this dude's a Seahawk and he's all in, and he's won a Super Bowl and he loves the Seahawks.

所有這些都是從我認識拉塞爾-威爾遜開始的... ...就像這傢伙是個海鷹，他全身心投入，他贏得了超級碗，他愛海鷹隊。

Go Hawks every interview.

去老鷹隊每次採訪。

Now it feels like, Man, I don't really care for them anymore.

現在感覺，天，我真的不關心他們了。

And the love is kind of gone.

而愛情也是一種消失。

Yeah, I agree with that.

是的，我同意這一點。

And so, Burger, let me come to you.

伯格，讓我來找你。

You send out a letter to your season ticket holders.

你給你的季票持有者發一封信。

It mentions all these other players.

它提到了所有這些其他球員。

It doesn't mention Russell Wilson.

它沒有提到Russell Wilson。

We don't know what the intent of that is, but it's certainly under these circumstances.

我們不知道這樣做的用意是什麼，但在這種情況下，肯定是。

Feels worthy, at least of mentioning in the discussion.

覺得值得，至少在討論中值得一提。

How big a deal do you make of that?

你覺得這有多大問題？

Really, I don't make a huge deal of it.

真的，我沒有大驚小怪。

I I think that there's definitely some some some disingenuous feelings between both sides.

我覺得雙方之間肯定有一些一些不真實的感情。

I think Russell has let those be be known.

我想羅素已經讓這些人知道了。

I think Pete Carroll and his side have got to figure out how much they want Russell being involved, going forward, and to me, this is an easy man.

我認為皮特-卡羅爾和他的團隊必須弄清楚他們有多想讓拉塞爾參與，前進，對我來說，這是一個簡單的人。

Also.

還有：

Green.

綠色。

I'm old enough to remember when I was on this show and there was a cowboy height video that didn't have back in it, and we all made a huge deal out of it.

我年紀大了，記得我上這個節目的時候，有一個牛仔身高的視頻，裡面沒有背影，我們都大肆宣傳。

And here we are, $160 million later.

而我們在這裡，1.6億美元后。

Everything is Kumbaya, so let's not Let's not blow this out of proportion.

一切都是康巴亞，所以我們不要把這件事吹得天花亂墜。

It was it was a single letter.

它是它是一個單一的字母。

Everyone in the Great Northwest knows that Russell Wilson is the face of the franchise, so I wouldn't put too much stock in the letter now to make a height video stop the presses.

大西北的人都知道，拉塞爾-威爾遜是加盟的代言人，所以我不會對現在的信太過重視，讓身高視頻停壓。

But the letter.

但信。

I wouldn't go that far.

我不會走那麼遠。

Let me give you a different way of looking at this thing here.

我在這裡給大家換個角度看這個事情。

And Dominique brought this up yesterday, I think.

多米尼克昨天提出了這個問題，我想。

And it was an interesting one.

而這是一個有趣的。

David Pollock that that maybe, on some level, Russell Wilson feels as though he was skipped like we went from the Brady Peyton Manning era.

大衛-波洛克說，也許，在某種程度上，拉塞爾-威爾遜覺得自己被跳過了，就像我們從布雷迪-佩頓-曼寧時代開始。

And we went right to the Patrick Mahomes to Shawn Watson era, and Russell Wilson is saying, Wait a minute.

我們直接進入了帕特里克-馬霍姆斯到肖恩-沃森的時代 拉塞爾-威爾遜說，等一下。

I was supposed to be the face of the league and the best player in the sport, and because of the team, I play on it because of the style of offense that our team believes in.

我本來就是聯盟的代言人，也是這項運動中最好的球員，因為球隊的原因，我在上面打球，因為我們球隊信奉的進攻風格。

I'm not capable of being that guy when I should be that guy.

我沒有能力成為那個人，而我應該成為那個人。

It's an interesting way of looking at it, and it's not an unreasonable way to feel.

這是個有趣的方式，也不是不合理的感覺。

If you're a guy like Russell Wilson, David Pollock, what do you think?

如果你是羅素-威爾遜、大衛-波洛克這樣的人，你怎麼看？

No, I I I don't disagree with that at all.

不，我我我一點也不反對。

And I think the team you play for more importantly, like, Listen, how do we get to this point in Russell Wilson's career?

我覺得你所效力的球隊更重要，比如說，聽著，我們怎麼能在拉塞爾-威爾遜的職業生涯中走到這一步？

And we haven't had the debate of whether he's an M V p.

而且我們還沒有爭論過他是否是M V P。

He plays for the Seahawks, right?

他在海鷹隊打球，對吧？

I mean that that's been part of it.

我的意思是，這一直是它的一部分。

He's not in a wide open offense.

他不在大開大合的進攻中。

Last year, you saw it a little bit, and then it kind of got a little bit tough and they said, No, no, no, we don't trust you were gonna bring it back in.

去年，你看到了一點點， 然後它有點得到了一個有點困難， 他們說，不，不，不，我們不相信你 會把它帶回來。

So I think that, you know, Russell Wilson should feel that way.

所以我覺得，你知道，拉塞爾-威爾遜應該有這種感覺。

But I tell you what.

但我告訴你

If you watch Russell Wilson for a whole game and you watch what he can do, there's very few people on the planet that can do it.

如果你看了拉塞爾-威爾遜一整場比賽，你看他能做什麼，這個星球上很少有人能做到。

So if he went somewhere else and and and they opened it up, you know, good and well, he'd have a ton of success.

所以，如果他去別的地方，他們打開它， 你知道，好，好，他將有一噸的成功。

So I get where Nick's coming from with that, and I get it because West Coast, with the Seahawks and the offense that has been in I mean, I think you kind of feel I feel bad for him.

所以我明白尼克的來歷，我也明白這一點，因為西海岸，海鷹隊的進攻，一直在我的意思是，我想你有點覺得我為他感到難過。

The dude said at one MBPs.

那位老兄說，在一個MBP。

At this point in his career, and I will just say this booger, I mean just to push back on you.

在他職業生涯的這個階段，我只想說這個鼻涕蟲，我的意思是，只是想回擊你。

I only have a second here, but on on that Indianapolis Colts team you want a Super Bowl with, they would under no circumstances have sent a letter to their season ticket holders.

我只有一秒鐘的時間，但在你想和那個印第安納波利斯小馬隊一起打超級碗的時候，他們在任何情況下都不會給他們的季票持有者發信。

That didn't mention Peyton Manning, right?

那沒有提到佩頓-曼寧吧？

There are no circumstances in which that would happen, right?

沒有任何情況下會出現這種情況吧？

Yeah, Greeny, I I think you make a good point there.

是啊，格林，我覺得你說的很有道理。

But that's also yonder.

但那也是那邊。

Years ago, like this is a new age.

幾年前，好像這是一個新時代。

Now that they're trying to promote some of the other players.

現在，他們正在努力提升其他一些球員。

I'm not gonna make that big of a deal out of the whole letter, by the way.

順便說一下，我不會把整封信的內容說得那麼大。

I mean, Russell Wilson and Seattle may have a new contract coming up pretty soon.

我的意思是，拉塞爾-威爾遜和西雅圖可能很快就會有一份新合同。

The way back in the Cowboys did.

在牛仔隊的路上做到了。

Who knows?

誰知道呢？

Well, see, I'm gonna make a big deal of it because nothing else I understand having that ego.

好吧，看吧，我要做一個大的交易，因為沒有別的，我明白有那個自我。

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