you know him if you're watching this channel,

你知道他，如果你看這個頻道。

he needs no introduction.

他不需要介紹。

Please welcome Andy Richter.

請歡迎安迪-裡希特。

Hi, Moses.

嗨，摩西

Thank you for having me.

謝謝你邀請我。

We were taping, so I'm in the courtyard of Largo.

我們在錄影，所以我在拉哥的院子裡。

So you will hear some traffic noise.

所以你會聽到一些交通噪音。

I hear a lot of traffic.

我聽到很多交通。

It sounds very-

聽起來很...

I feel like the man on the street.

我覺得自己就像大街上的人。

The last time we talked

上次我們談的時候

was when we were still doing the show for audiences,

是當我們還在為觀眾做節目的時候。

and you were telling me that, on the old stages,

你告訴我，在老舞臺上。

you had a place where you could just go and disappear.

你有一個地方，你可以只是去和消失。

Have you found a place there at the Largo,

你在拉格找到地方了嗎？

where you could just completely disappear?

在那裡你可以完全消失？

Well, this courtyard is nice.

嗯，這個院子不錯。

(car engine rumbling)

（汽車發動機隆隆聲）

It's noisy, but it's nice.

雖然很吵，但很好。

And I come out here when Conan is doing interviews,

柯南接受採訪的時候，我就來這裡。

the Zoom interviews, because I just don't want to make...

縮放採訪， 因為我只是不想讓... ...

I'm certainly not going to listen to the interview because-

我當然不會聽採訪，因為... ...

No, it's a speaker phone conversation.

不，這是一個免提電話對話。

Yeah, he talked to Colin Quinn today,

是的，他今天和科林-奎恩談過了。

and I heard everything that guy had to say in 1995.

我聽到了那傢伙在1995年說的一切。

Enough with the Colin Quinn.

夠了，科林-奎恩。

I'm just kidding. (laughing)

我只是在開玩笑。（笑）

Do you know there's different races of people in New York

你知道紐約有很多不同種族的人嗎？

and they came over at different times?

他們在不同的時間過來？

No, I love him, but honestly,

不，我愛他，但說實話。

no, I stay out of there just so I don't have to worry about

不，我呆在那裡只是為了讓我不必擔心。

if I get up, or that the old seats in the theater will clank

如果我站起來，或者說劇院裡的舊座位會哐當哐當地響起來

or something.

或什麼的。

'Cause when I first started here with them,

因為我剛開始和他們在一起的時候，

I was in there for one of them,

我在那裡的其中之一。

and I just was like, "I'm too clumsy,

我只是想，"我太笨拙。

"I should be out here just so I don't interrupt."

"我應該在外面，只是為了不打擾你們。"

But yeah, but also too, this place,

但也是，但也是，這個地方。

I've known this place for a million years.

我認識這個地方一百萬年了。

I mean, and I've known everybody here for 20 plus years.

我是說，我認識這裡的每個人都有20多年了。

So I was always very comfortable in this place,

所以我在這個地方一直很舒服。

even before we started doing "The Conan Show" here.

甚至在我們開始做 "柯南秀 "之前就開始了

Yeah, because for people who don't know,

是啊，因為對於不知道的人來說。

this is the hub of essentially all comedy,

這是基本上所有喜劇的中心。

where you can really work out stuff

在那裡你可以真正解決的東西

before it becomes a special,

在它成為一種特殊的。

people have taped their specials there.

人們在那裡錄製了他們的特別節目。

So it is a cool spot.

所以這是一個很酷的地方。

So the place that you've found to disappear to

所以，你找到了消失的地方。

is the Central Courtyard?

是中央庭院？

(laughing) Yes, yes.

（笑）是的，是的。

Although, you know what?

雖然，你知道嗎？

I mean, it's a different thing.

我的意思是，這是一個不同的事情。

'Cause I'm not here.

因為我不在這裡。

If I need to hide in the hour that I'm here,

如果我在這裡的一小時內需要躲藏的話。

I got real problems.

我有真正的問題。

I shouldn't be on television if I'm that-

我不應該上電視，如果我是那樣的...

Right.

好吧，我知道了

(laughing) If I'm, yeah.

(笑)如果我，是的。

If I need to hide that much.

如果我需要隱藏那麼多。

Yeah, yeah.

是啊，是啊。

But this is how you got roped into this show.

但這就是你被捲入這個節目的原因。

You were just too central.

你只是太中心化了。

You were outside, you were not smoking.

你在外面，你沒有抽菸。

And they're like, "Hey, there's this kid

他們就像，"嘿，有這個孩子。

"that did stand up once."

"這確實站起來一次。"

They asked me, and then when I found out what time it was,

他們問我，然後當我知道現在是什麼時間。

it was like, I just did it here.

這就像，我只是在這裡做了。

Rather than, normally I would be at home,

而不是，平時我在家裡。

in my sad, dark little box that I live in.

在我的悲傷，黑暗的小盒子裡，我住在。

But here it's, like I said, I feel like a man on the street.

但在這裡，就像我說的，我覺得自己就像一個在街上的人。

That is something I've noticed.

這是我注意到的。

I think people, when they do the show for the first time

我覺得人們第一次做節目的時候

they're like, "Oh, I hope Conan likes me."

他們就像，"哦，我希望柯南喜歡我。"

Immediately I was like, I hope Andy doesn't scowl at me.

我立刻就想，希望安迪不要對我眉來眼去。

'Cause I think, and please tell me if I'm wrong,

因為我認為，如果我錯了，請告訴我。

I feel like you watch stand up

我覺得你看站立

like comedians watch stand up.

就像喜劇演員看脫口秀一樣。

Conan's very gracious and like,

柯南很親切，很喜歡。

"Let's keep the show on the rails,

"讓我們把節目繼續下去吧。

"even if you're bombing."

"即使你是轟炸。"

But you, you feel like you know the mechanics of it,

但你，你覺得你知道其中的機理。

of like, "Uh-huh, yeah, that happened, sure."

的喜歡，"嗯，是的，發生了，當然。"

On "The Conan Show,"

在 "柯南秀 "上

and Conan has said this, and and God bless him.

和柯南說過這句話，而且和上帝保佑他。

He never wanted me to be any different,

他從來不希望我有什麼不同。

but you know I will sort of laugh

但你知道我會笑的

as a conversational lubricant.

作為對話的潤滑劑。

Yeah.

是啊。

But most of the time,

但大多數時候。

I laugh when I think something's funny,

我覺得好笑的時候就會笑。

which I guess is unusual.

我想這是不尋常的。

And I definitely felt when I went from New York to LA

當我從紐約到洛杉磯的時候，我絕對感覺到了。

and came out here and had to go through the sitcom process

並來到這裡，不得不通過情景喜劇的進程

of the table read and then the rehearsals and everything

桌讀，然後排練，一切。

where everyone laughs real hard at everything

在那裡，每個人都笑得很開心

over and over again.

一遍又一遍。

Way too hard.

太難了

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah, and I just feel like you're crying wolf.

是啊，我只是覺得你在哭狼。

Like you're ultimately going to not be able

就像你最終將無法。

to tell the difference between

辨別

that's really funny and that's just okay.

這真的很有趣，這只是好的。

And I would have other writers say things to me like,

我還會讓其他作家對我說這樣的話。

"You're not a big laugher, are you?"

"你不是很愛笑吧？"

(laughing) And I say, "Well, yeah, actually,

(笑)我說，"嗯，是的，其實。

"when things are funny."

"當事情是有趣的。"

When things are funny,

當事情很有趣的時候。

when you're not looking at a math equation.

當你不看數學公式的時候。

Yeah, and I'm not trying to be a dick

是啊，我不是想當個混蛋

I'm not trying to be a dick.

我不是想成為一個傢伙。

But I just think I'm trying to be honest

但我覺得我只是想說實話而已。

about that one part of it.

關於這一個部分。

And because I always have felt that this kind of job,

因為我一直覺得，這種工作。

doing a late night talk show like this,

做一個深夜的談話節目這樣。

you have to be yourself.

你必須做你自己。

You can't, you're yourself when company's over,

你不能，公司結束後你就是你自己了。

but you gotta be yourself.

但你得做你自己。

If you're going to be fake laughing, fake re-reacting,

如果你要假笑，就要假重演。

it's going to suck.

這將是吸。

You know?

你知道嗎？

And I just also just don't want to do that.

而我也只是不想這樣做。

I think that's what I was nervous about

我想這就是我緊張的地方

the second time I did the show.

我第二次做節目的時候。

'Cause you guys are more front face-ting on stools there

"因為你們更多的是在凳子上打臉

is you can see,

是你可以看到。

and you know that you know all the mechanics,

你知道你知道所有的機械。

you know the punchline before it's coming,

你知道它的到來之前的笑點。

you know that you were not

你知道你不是

on a bus in Australia this morning.

今天早上在澳洲的一輛公車上。

And also (laughing) to be fair to the stand-ups,

也是（笑）為了對得起站臺的人。

a lot of times, that's the end of our day pretty much.

很多時候，這就是我們一天的結束，幾乎。

And it's easy to zone out.

而且很容易區隔。

Yeah.

是啊。

It sounds really shitty,

這聽起來真的很糟糕。

and it probably is kind of shitty, but I guess I'm shitty.

它可能是一種低劣的， 但我想我是低劣的。

No, I think it takes some of the mystery out of it,

不，我認為這需要一些神祕感。

and I think it makes people less nervous to do the show,

而且我覺得這樣做會讓人不那麼緊張。

to know that everyone's there doing a job.

知道每個人都在那裡做工作。

Just do your thing.

做你的事吧

Table reads that you brought up are something else,

你提出的表讀是另一回事。

where it is way too hot of an audience,

在那裡，它是太熱的觀眾。

where it feels like they got bullied into laughing.

在那裡，感覺他們被欺負得笑不出來。

Yes.

是的，我知道

Because it's like network people there,

因為那裡就像網絡人一樣。

so everyone's like, "Haha, that's the joke that I wrote.

所以每個人都喜歡，"哈哈，這是我寫的笑話。

"Everyone likes that."

"大家都喜歡這樣。"

Have you ever bombed a table read?

你有沒有轟動過一桌讀物？

I have not, but I have been involved in table reads

我沒有，但我參與了表讀。

where someone gets cocky and thinks,

在那裡，有人變得自大，認為。

"Oh, this is just a table read,

"哦，這只是一個表讀。

"so I don't need to perform at my top abilities here.

"所以我不需要在這裡發揮我的最高能力。

"I can save it," or something, I don't know.

"我可以救它 "什麼的，我不知道。

Yeah.

是啊。

And they get fired.

然後他們就被解僱了。

You can get fired at any time.

你隨時都可能被解僱。

And so it's like every time

所以它像每一次

they want to hear you say a line,

他們想聽你說一句話。

you better say it the money way to say it.

你最好用錢的方式說出來。

Yes.

是的，我知道

You better have all the coffee

你最好把所有的咖啡都喝了

or whatever drugs making you funny.

或者什麼讓你覺得好笑的藥物。

Do that because yeah,

這樣做，因為是的。

because it's the second to last audition.

因為這是第二次到最後一次試鏡。

Yes.

是的，我知道

And I always cringe

而我總是畏懼

when actors will post the deadline article

演員什麼時候發稿截止

in "The Hollywood Reporter" of like, "Booked it!"

在 "好萊塢報道 "的喜歡，"預訂吧！"

And it's like, you are so close to getting...

它就像，你是如此接近得到... ...

You could be gone.

你可能會離開。

(laughing) Yes.

（笑）是的。

You could be gone tomorrow,

你可能明天就走了。

and everyone's going to be asking, "What happened to that?"

每個人都會問，"發生了什麼事？"

Right, right.

對，對。

"I didn't see you on CW's "The Arrow.""

"我在CW的 "綠箭俠 "裡沒看到你"

That's the same reason

這也是同樣的道理

that they recommend that you don't tell people

他們建議你不要告訴別人。

that you're going to have a baby

你要有孩子了

until the end of the first trimester.

直到頭三個月結束。

Yes.

是的，我知道

Because you might not be having a baby.

因為你可能不會有孩子。

It's just because odds are-

這只是因為機率是 -

Equally sad things, losing a human being and a pilot.

同樣悲傷的事情，失去了一個人和一個飛行員。

(laughing)

（笑）

It's right up there together.

就在一起了。

In my mind, it's the same.

在我看來，這是一樣的。

There is a table read pressure on you now

現在有一個表讀壓力在你身上

because essentially every night on "The Conan Show,"

因為基本上每天晚上在 "柯南秀 "上，

you are the only audience member.

你是唯一的觀眾。

Yeah.

是啊。

Besides the crew, you're really the only one in the seats.

除了機組人員，你是唯一一個在座位上的人。

What is that like?

那是什麼樣子？

I mean, does it feel like you're Mark Ruffalo's character

我的意思是，是否覺得你是馬克-魯法洛的角色？

in "Shutter Island,"

在 "快門島 "中

where you're just helping this man process that

在那裡你只是幫助這個人的處理，

you have a TV show,

你有一個電視節目。

(laughing)

（笑）

Whatever trauma you can process.

無論你能處理什麼創傷。

I mean, no, honestly, this has just been so

我的意思是，不，說實話，這只是一直如此。

from starting in quarantine

從隔離開始

for months and months and months,

幾個月，幾個月，幾個月。

and then doing the show from home,

然後在家裡做節目。

and it being completely strange,

而它是完全陌生的。

and getting an email, and then shooting a bit myself,

並收到一封郵件，然後自己拍了一下。

getting my own props.

得到我自己的道具。

And I always did it immediately when I got the email

而我收到郵件後，總是馬上就做了。

because I had nothing else to do.

因為我無事可做。

Yeah.

是啊。

And I'd do the bit and send it off,

而我就會做位，然後把它送走。

and then I'd sit there and wait for the next email

然後我就會坐在那裡等著下一封郵件。

where somebody thought of a bit for me to do.

在那裡，有人想到了一個位讓我做。

So coming here was like, "Oh, God, I get out of the house."

所以來到這裡就像，"哦，上帝，我離開了房子。"

Honestly, one of the best things about doing this

老實說，做這件事最好的一件事就是

is that you're around funny people

是你身邊有趣的人

and that you get to spend lots of time with funny people.

而且你可以花很多時間和有趣的人在一起。

And in fact, in your personal life

而事實上，在你的個人生活中

you can spend all so much of your day with funny people

你可以花這麼多的時間和有趣的人在一起

and then you go home and you're used up all your funny

然後你回家，你用完了你所有的有趣的。

and the people in your house are like,

和人們在你的房子都喜歡，

"Hey, where's the funny guy?"

"嘿，那個有趣的傢伙在哪裡？"

And you're like, "Oh, man, I'm tired of being funny.

你就會說："哦，夥計，我已經厭倦了搞笑。

(laughing) "Leave me alone."

(笑) "別管我"。

Yeah, it is hard to talk to...

是啊，很難說清...

People that are not in comedy are the same way.

不是搞喜劇的人也是這樣。

Yeah.

是啊。

'Cause I think people in comedy

因為我覺得喜劇界的人

say the meanest things to each other.

互相說著最刻薄的話。

Absolutely.

絕對的

The way that we get to be funny around here is mostly mean.

我們在這裡得到的搞笑方式大多是刻薄。

And I mean, it's the kind of mean

我的意思是，它是那種刻薄的。

that comes from a group of people that are safe,

那來自於一群安全的人。

that feel safe with each other.

彼此感到安全的。

So you can really (laughing) you can be a jerk.

所以你真的可以（笑）你可以是一個混蛋。

And it can be so much fun, and there's such funny stuff,

而且它可以很有趣，有這樣有趣的東西。

and it's all stuff

都是些什麼東西

that could never be on television just because-

這永遠不會在電視上只是因為 -

It is all cancelable material.

都是可以取消的材料。

Yes, it's all either awful, awful, dark things

是的，都是一些可怕的，可怕的，黑暗的東西。

or it's about somebody that could sue.

或者是關於某個可以起訴的人。

I mean, it's just-

我的意思是，它只是 -

Yeah.

是啊。

It's truly one of my favorite things

這確實是我最喜歡的事情之一

about doing this for a living.

關於做這個為生。

And it's people that are paid to be funny.

而且是人都是拿錢來搞笑的。

They're funny. (laughing)

他們很有趣。（笑）

Yeah, which makes the roasting hurt extra hard.

是啊，這讓烤得特別疼。

Yeah.

是啊。