And here's what's interesting.

有意思的是

You have made a big point of not participating much in social media, you know, and not getting that involved in it and your massive on tiktok.

你已經做了一個很大的點，不參與太多的社交媒體，你知道，並沒有得到它的參與，你的大規模的tiktok。

And it's nothing that you intended.

而且這不是你想的那樣。

It's something that you did.

這是你做的事情。

Did it start with your role on one Division One division?

是不是從你在一個甲級師的角色開始？

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah, The crazy thing was before the pandemic, I was on social media and I was like, You know, I was active on it and I was enjoying it.

是啊，瘋狂的事情是在大流行之前， 我在社交媒體上，我很喜歡，你知道，我是活躍在它，我很享受它。

But then during the pandemic, I read this book by this brilliant computer scientist named Jaren Lanier.

但在大流行期間，我讀到了這本書，作者是這位名叫賈倫-拉尼爾的天才計算機科學家。

Have you heard of him?

你聽說過他嗎？

And I'm starting my head, but no.

而我開始我的頭，但沒有。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

But he talks about, like, just the dangers of social media and how it's destroying our democracy, how it's making people angrier and meaner and more susceptible to to lies and conspiracy theories.

但他談到，像， 只是社交媒體的危險 它是如何破壞我們的民主， 它是如何讓人們憤怒和刻薄 更容易受到謊言和陰謀論。

And I was reading this Sounds like Oh my gosh, this stuff is really dangerous.

我讀了這個，聽起來像哦，我的天哪，這東西真的很危險。

So I deleted all my social media and and I felt fine, right?

所以我刪掉了我所有的社交媒體，然後我覺得很好，對嗎？

And then Yeah.

然後是啊。

You know, just a few weeks ago, I hear from friends that I'm blowing up on tiktok and, uh, and that, you know, people are like, uh, just, you know, honoring like all the work I've done over the years and and showing a lot of love.

你知道，就在幾個星期前，我聽到朋友們說我在tiktok上吹起來，呃，而且，你知道，人們就像，呃，只是，你知道，紀念像所有的工作，我已經做了這麼多年，並表現出很多的愛。

And it's like now I'm like, Social media is amazing, you know, like, I gotta get back on it.

就像現在我想，社交媒體是驚人的， 你知道，喜歡，我得回去吧。

Screw democracy.

去他媽的民主。

Yeah.

是啊。

What's more important, our democratic process or you getting some love for the work you've done?

什麼是更重要的，我們的民主進程 或你得到一些愛 你所做的工作？

Think that's the most important thing?

認為這是最重要的事情？

I don't think it's without a doubt.

我想這不是毫無疑問的。

Yeah, you know, it's so funny because what what people have been doing is you've been a working actor for a long time, and you've shown up whether it's a small part or medium sized part.

是的，你知道，這太有趣了，因為人們一直在做的是你已經做了很長時間的工作演員，不管是小角色還是中型角色，你都會出現。

You show you've shown up in a lot of places to what people have done is they've they've gone and found.

你顯示你已經出現在很多地方的人所做的是他們他們已經去發現。

I mean, even the smallest roles that you've done and they post them and they mashed them together on tiktok and it's become a thing.

我的意思是，即使是最小的角色，你已經做了，他們發佈他們，他們搗毀他們一起在tiktok和它成為一個東西。

I mean, millions and millions and millions of hits, views, whatever you call it, have happened in the last couple of months, which is nuts.

我的意思是，數以百萬計，數以百萬計的點擊率，瀏覽量，不管你怎麼稱呼它，已經發生在過去的幾個月，這是堅果。

It's insane.

這是瘋狂的。

Like what they found You did a role on the office, and when I heard about this, I thought, Okay, well, maybe you had an arc on the office.

就像他們發現了什麼 你在辦公室裡做了一個角色， 當我聽到這個，我想， 好吧，也許你有一個弧度 在辦公室裡。

It wasn't an arc.

這不是一個弧度。

You were barely in the office and they found that character tell us about I mean, I did, uh, So, uh, this was, like, many years ago.

你剛進辦公室，他們就發現了那個角色... ...告訴我們，我的意思是，我做了，呃，所以，呃，這是一樣，很多年前。

It was the final season of the office.

這是辦公室的最後一季。

I I got the chance to play a character named Asian Jim and like in, like, one scene during the final season.

我有機會扮演一個角色 名為亞洲吉姆和喜歡，喜歡，一個場景 在最後一個賽季。

And at that point, the, you know, the popularity of the show had been waning.

而在這一點上，你知道， 該節目的知名度已經減弱。

And and, uh, you know, I was in and out in an hour and I thought that was really fun.

而且，呃，你知道，我在一個小時內進出，我認為這是非常有趣的。

And then I just kind of I completely forgot about it.

然後我只是一種... ...我完全忘記了它。

And then, um, several years later, I'm like, walking down the street and this car drives behind a guy yells like Asian Jim and drives off.

然後，嗯，幾年後，我喜歡，走在大街上，這車開在後面，一個傢伙大喊大叫像亞洲吉姆，然後開走了。

And I'm like, I'm thinking, like, Is this some like, racist thing?

我很喜歡，我在想，喜歡， 這是一些像，種族主義的事情嗎？

I don't know about either.

我也不知道。

You either a fan just saw you or it's a hate crime.

你要麼是粉絲看到了你，要麼就是仇恨犯罪。

I thought it was a hate crime because I had forgotten about my appearance on the office.

我以為這是仇恨犯罪，因為我忘記了我在辦公室的外表。

And, you know, people would be walking up to me like What's up, Asian Jim?

而且，你知道，人們會走到我身邊 像什麼，亞洲吉姆？

I'd be like you.

我也會像你一樣。

What are you, you know?

你是什麼人，你知道嗎？

And and then, by the way, I want to apologize for greeting you.

然後，順便說一句，我想為問候你而道歉。

When you came here to the studio and you went like that, Yeah, I did that and whatever.

當你來到這裡的工作室，你就這樣走了，是的，我做了那個什麼的。