Do you like love or hate?

你喜歡愛還是恨？

LeBron's rebuttal to Latin?

勒布朗對拉丁文的反駁？

I like it.

我喜歡它。

I don't love it.

我不愛它。

And the reason why I don't love it is that I thought LeBron should have one of them harder.

而我之所以不愛，是因為我覺得勒布朗應該有一個更難的。

I love the fact that LeBron pointed out his part.

我喜歡勒布朗指出他的部分。

His hypocrisy, how this was the same guy who who did speak about his name and and, you know, and racist connotations that came along with it and how, uh, he was being, uh, prejudiced against in the past.

他的虛偽，如何這是同一個人 誰誰做了發言 關於他的名字，而且，你知道， 和種族主義的內涵，來了 沿著它和如何，呃，他是被，呃， 偏見反對在過去。

But yet when it came to LeBron James and others, he's speaking about how you know folks need to speak to sports.

但是，然而當談到勒布朗-詹姆斯等人時，他卻在說，你知道鄉親們需要對體育說話。

I think that what he would say, he should have been more specific.

我想他會說的話，應該說得更具體。

He was basically trying to say the black athletes should stick to sports.

他基本上是想說黑人運動員應該堅持運動。

That's how I took it.

我就是這麼認為的。

And essentially, what are you meaning by that?

而本質上，你這話是什麼意思？

Because you have a lot of people in this world who look at black men and believe instead of showing them the deference and respect that they've earned and they deserve and giving them major major props for that as opposed to doing that.

因為你有很多人在這個世界上誰看黑人，相信而不是向他們展示他們贏得的尊重和尊重，他們應該得到，並給予他們主要的主要道具，而不是這樣做。

They feel like these athletes should be appreciative and be and should and should never feel entitled because of what they've earned.

他們覺得這些運動員應該被欣賞，應該，也不應該因為自己的收入而覺得自己有權利。

So you do have a lot of folks out in this world that look at black men who are particularly influential and incredibly powerful, and they feel they should stay in a certain place.

所以你在這個世界上確實有很多人，看著黑人特別有影響力，非常有力量，他們覺得自己應該呆在某個地方。

They should be more appreciative, as opposed to feeling deserving and things of that nature.

他們應該更多的是欣賞，而不是覺得自己理所應當之類的東西。

And I think this shows that you know, the kind of prejudice that we're accustomed to experiencing, as as black men.

我認為這表明，你知道，那種偏見 我們習慣於經歷，作為黑人男子。

It doesn't just exist in America.

它不只存在於美國。

I've had the fortune of, particularly with Stephen A's world, of interviewing several people on my show from different from different other parts of this world.

我有幸，特別是在Stephen A的世界裡，在我的節目中採訪了幾個來自這個世界不同其他地方的人。

And they talk about how the black experience itself is the black experience.

而他們談到黑人的經歷本身就是黑人的經歷。

It ain't just and and it ain't just in America, it's the world over.

這不只是... ...也不只是在美國，而是在全世界。

And so to me, this is the latest example of that, and and I loved how LeBron came back and responded.

所以對我來說，這是最新的例子，而且我很喜歡勒布朗如何回來並做出迴應。

But I also thought that LeBron was very classy and far too nice compared to what he could have been by an individual that was basically not only telling him to just shut up and play basketball.

但我也認為，勒布朗非常有風度，比起個人的可能，他的態度好太多了，基本上不僅是叫他閉嘴打籃球。

But he was also an individual that was telling him you shouldn't be the one doing it.

但他也是個人在告訴他，你不應該是一個人在做。

But evidently I could, because when I had an issue, I certainly brought it up and it didn't have anything to do with the feel the place.

但顯然我可以，因為當我有問題的時候，我肯定會提出來，而且和這個地方的感覺沒有任何關係。

So it's okay for me to speak on things, but you you should know your place.

所以，我講事情沒關係，但你你應該知道自己的位置。

That's how I took it.

我就是這麼認為的。

I think that's how LeBron James took it, and LeBron handled it with the difference.

我想這就是勒布朗-詹姆斯的做法，勒布朗處理得與眾不同。

The class, the decorum that obviously nobody can argue with.

階級、禮節，顯然沒有人可以辯駁。

I'm just saying If it was me, I'd have been a hell of a lot harsher.

我只是說，如果是我的話，我會更加嚴厲。

I love LeBron James response.

我喜歡勒布朗-詹姆斯的迴應。

You like it, Steven, because you think he could have gone harder as Latin.

你喜歡它，史蒂文，因為你認為他可以去更難作為拉丁。

I love LeBron's response precisely because he didn't because I look a lot of times entitled to his opinion.

我喜歡勒布朗的迴應，正是因為他沒有因為我看起來很多時候有資格發表自己的意見。

Even if we think it's wrong headed now, Stephen, if you read into and say what are you really saying?

即使我們現在認為這是錯誤的，斯蒂芬，如果你讀到並說你到底在說什麼？

I get it.

我明白了。

But actually LeBron's measured response just stating the facts, I think was the most effective possible response and look what he said.

但其實勒布朗只是陳述事實的有分寸的迴應，我認為是最有效的迴應，看看他說了什麼。

It's on the bottom of screen there's no way I would ever just stick to sports the operative words because I understand this platform and how powerful my voices.

這是在螢幕的底部有沒有辦法，我永遠不會只堅持體育的操作詞，因為我明白這個平臺，我的聲音是多麼強大。

In other words, if you want to talk about a moral responsibility, if you are a member of an oppressed group historically, then LeBron feels it.

換句話說，如果你要談一個道德責任，如果你是歷史上被壓迫群體的一員，那麼勒布朗就會感覺到。

That's great.

那太好了

That's that's great that he responded the way he did.

他能有這樣的反應，真是太好了。

He is not making ad hominem attacks at Slaton, although he points out, Hey, look, you were saying kind of similar stuff where you're from, right?

他並沒有對斯拉頓進行攻擊，雖然他指出，嘿，聽著，你在你的家鄉說過類似的話，對嗎？

Like you.

像你一樣

You were saying, Hey, you know my last name, whatever else lead to behavior toward me that that I didn't like and what's curious by the way LeBron could have gone on?

你當時說，嘿，你知道我姓什麼，不管其他什麼導致對我的行為，我都不喜歡，勒布朗可以繼續下去，有什麼好奇怪的？

I've heard interviews where one interview in particular, whereas Latin was asked about Muhammad Ali and immediately he's like playing word association immediately, he says, the best, the greatest my idol and Zlatan is, you know, loud, and he and he celebrates himself the way Ali did.

我聽過的採訪中，有一次特別的採訪，而拉丁被問到穆罕默德-阿里，他馬上就像馬上玩文字聯想，他說，最好的，最偉大的我的偶像，而茲拉坦是，你知道，大聲的，他和他慶祝自己的方式阿里。

But if Ali's your idol, it's not just because he bragged a lot, it's because Ali stood up for what he believed in and stood for his people and and oppression and oppressed groups everywhere, really, by the end of his career.

但如果阿里是你的偶像，這不僅僅是因為他吹噓了很多，而是因為阿里在他的職業生涯結束前，站在了他所信仰的東西上，站在了他的人民和壓迫以及各地被壓迫的群體，真的。

So it is curious that slot on has that point of view about Muhammad.

所以很奇怪，槽上對穆罕默德有這種觀點。

Ali had that point of view about himself in Europe, but then has this point of view about LeBron and LeBron's response to me is pitch perfect.

阿里在歐洲對自己有這樣的觀點，但對勒布朗又有這樣的觀點，勒布朗對我的迴應是完美的。

I don't think it could be any better.

我想這是再好不過的了。

No ad hominem attack points out Hypocrisy says, Hey, wait a minute.

無廣告攻擊指出虛偽說，嘿，等一下。

Why is that OK for you, but not okay for me and, most importantly, reinforces the idea that he feels a responsibility to do it, not just the weather.

為什麼對你可以，對我卻不行，最重要的是，強化了他覺得自己有責任去做，而不僅僅是天氣。

Well, I can do it or I should just stay in my lane.

好吧，我可以做到這一點，或者我應該只是留在我的車道。

No, LeBron saying I have a responsibility given my platform pitch perfect, I have to say, as usual by LeBron No, Max.

不，勒布朗說我有責任鑑於我的平臺投稿完美的，我不得不說，照舊由勒布朗不，最大。

I have to disagree, and that's nonsense.

我得不同意，那是胡說八道。

Ain't nothing.

什麼都不是

Was pitch perfect about that response.

是球場上完美的迴應。

A matter of fact, I hated the response that LeBron James game, and here's why he should have addressed, like Zatanna or whatever.

事實上，我很討厭勒布朗-詹姆斯那場比賽的迴應，他應該在這裡解決，比如扎坦納什麼的。

His name is like the numbers on the house and should have made him smell his cologne in that response and by me saying that because it's not about politics.

他的名字就像房子上的數字一樣，應該讓他聞到他的古龍水的味道，在這種反應中，由我說，因為這不是關於政治。

It's not that LeBron James speaks out about politics.

不是勒布朗-詹姆斯講政治。

He's speaking out about humanity.

他說的是人性。

All right, this is what we're talking about.

好吧，這就是我們要談的。

Humanity.

人類。

What's going on in the black community these days?

最近黑人社區發生了什麼？

That's what LeBron James stand for growing up in Akron, Ohio.

這就是勒布朗-詹姆斯在俄亥俄州阿克倫市成長的代表。

Uh, you know, coming up really, without a father figure in his life, knowing why the purpose why he opened up, I promise school and and and wanted to provide such such such great people to help these kids in these in these black communities so they could get knowledge so they could get up either those communities and be something in life because, you know, we go through so much that it gets overlooked, okay?

呃，你知道，來了真的， 沒有父親的身影在他的生活中，知道為什麼目的 為什麼他打開了，我保證學校和和 想提供這樣的這樣的偉大的人 幫助這些孩子在這些 在這些黑人社區，所以他們可以得到知識 所以他們可以起床 無論是這些社區，並在生活中的東西 因為，你知道，我們經歷了這麼多 它被忽視，好嗎？

And, well, what I'm not about to sit up here and stand for is no athlete or no other person, especially from another country.

而且，我不打算坐在這裡，站在這裡的是沒有運動員或其他人，特別是來自其他國家的運動員。

Tell one of our powerful, iconic figures how to speak up and how to be a black man in America and be a leader in America.

告訴我們一個強大的，標誌性的人物如何說話，如何成為美國的黑人，成為美國的領導者。

I'm not about to tolerate it.

我不打算容忍它。

And Braun should address him like the numbers on the house, like I said before, because look, we deal with so much oppression.

而Braun應該像對待房子上的數字一樣對待他，就像我之前說的那樣，因為你看，我們面對的壓迫太多了。

For over 400 plus years.

400多年來，。

You talk about you talk about things to nature.

你說說你說說大自然的事情。

Were for other figures, are were in.

是為其他數字，是在。

Cars, are incarcerated for whatever reason, and getting football numbers where they're not.

車，被關押起來，不管什麼原因，在沒有的地方得到足球號碼。

They're in their kid in their Children's lives.

他們在他們的孩子在他們的孩子的生活。

Nine days and now they need powerful, iconic figures like LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, Dwyane Wade, uh, Maya Moore, all these beautiful athletes that have been standing on the front line to make sure that these kids get the best opportunity that others are getting around the world.

九天，現在他們需要強大的、標誌性的人物，比如勒布朗-詹姆斯、拉塞爾-威斯布魯克、德懷恩-韋德，呃，瑪雅-摩爾，所有這些美麗的運動員，一直站在第一線，以確保這些孩子得到最好的機會，其他人在世界各地得到的機會。

So I don't want to hear that man.

所以，我不想聽那個人說。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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訂閱ESPN，加。