No one ever was as dominant if they got the ball download than Shaquille O'Neal.

從來沒有人比沙奎爾-奧尼爾拿到球下載就有統治力。

But embodied in this NBA in particular is also impossible.

但體現在這個NBA特別是也是不可能的。

He's a legit seven footer, Stephen A to 50.

他是個合法的七尺男兒，斯蒂芬-A到50。

He's a he's a seven footer and a wide body, and he's in shape now.

他的身高有七尺，身體寬大，他現在的身材。

So the down low skills are there and he's shooting fewer threes, and he's more down in the paint than before, and as a result, he's at the line more than ever before.

所以，低位技術有了，他的三分球投得少了，他在油漆區的下場也比以前多了，結果，他在底線的次數也比以前多了。

He's shooting 86% free throws, much better than Shaquille O'Neal ever did.

他的罰球命中率達到86%，比沙奎爾-奧尼爾的表現好得多。

And even though he's shooting fewer threes like two or three a game 2.5, 3 threes a game, he's hitting him at, like 40% or a little better, even right now, and beat the difference primarily between shock and embodied in terms of all around skill is Embiid can shoot.

而且即使他的三分球投得少了，比如一場比賽2.5、3個三分球，但他的命中率，比如40%或者更好一點，即使現在，打衝擊和體現的區別主要是恩比德會投籃。

In fact, there's never been in the history of the NBA, a seven footer who's a big 7 ft or not a power forward, a center who can play with us back to the basket with the all around skills of Embiid you know I'm cheating a little bit there because Duncan and Elijah want more like a little shorter.

事實上，在NBA的歷史上，從來沒有出現過一個七尺大漢或者不是大前鋒的中鋒，一個能和我們一起背靠籃筐打球的中鋒，擁有恩比德這樣的全能技術的中鋒，你知道我在那裡有點作弊，因為鄧肯和伊萊傑想要更多的像矮一點。

Embiid can do everything you want a center to do.

恩比德可以做到你想要一箇中鋒做的一切。

He is.

他是。

He's the most skilled, legit 7 ft wide body ever.

他是有史以來最熟練的，合法的7英尺寬體。

My response to that is Joe Oil and Beat can shoot the ball better away from the basket.

我的回答是喬油和比特可以在離籃筐較遠的地方投籃。

Um, he's clearly a better free throw shooter.

嗯，他顯然是一個更好的自由投籃手。

And so, if you want to look at it from a skilled perspective, meaning they're both over 7 ft tall and and be could do a little bit more.

所以，如果你想從熟練的角度來看，也就是說他們都超過了7英尺高，而且和可以做得更多一些。

Well, I argue with you when you made the points that you make.

好吧，當你提出你的觀點時，我和你爭論。

No, not at all.

不，一點也不。

Here's my retort to it.

這是我對它的反駁。

However.

然而，

I don't give a damn.

我才不管呢

It means nothing because it ain't about what you can do.

這毫無意義，因為這與你的能力無關。

It's about what you actually do.

這關係到你的實際行動。

And Shaquille O'Neal was 71 £320 was a man amongst boys and played like it every night For the vast majority of his career.

而沙奎爾-奧尼爾71歲，320英鎊是一個男人中的男孩，每天晚上打喜歡他的職業生涯的絕大部分。

He treated you like the child.

他把你當成孩子一樣對待。

Do you work compared to him?

你的工作跟他比嗎？

He wants some pretty boy with a curly Afro pulling up from 20 or 23.

他想要一些漂亮的男孩，有一個捲曲的Afro，從20或23歲拉起。

He wasn't sitting up there trying to dance and dribble the ball on the perimeter and and and and had to and had to wait until the coach got fired and they got tired of getting swept in the playoffs to learn that you're supposed to have your big butt download and be a man amongst voice.

他不是坐在那裡試圖在外圍跳舞和運球，並且和和不得不和不得不等到教練被解僱，他們厭倦了在季後賽中被橫掃，才知道你應該有你的大屁股下載，在聲音中做一個人。

I recall Joe L and B going on national television and saying Shacks right, get your big behind band down in the post and be a man and man handle these young boys because compared to you, they are boys.

我記得喬-L和B在國家電視臺上說沙克斯是吧，讓你的大後方樂隊在崗位上，做一個男人，男人處理這些年輕的男孩，因為和你相比，他們是男孩。

You're making them look like men because you're not playing as hard as you can't play.

你把他們弄得像男人一樣，因為你玩得不如你不會玩。

You are not dominating them.

你不是在支配他們。

Which was why shock at the time.

這也是為什麼當時震驚。

About a year, year and a half ago, Max, if you recalled, sat up there and said if he had to take off his Superman cake and give it to somebody, it would have been the Greek freak Yonas after the Cooper, because he goes in the hole and treats boys like they are boys.

大約一年半前，麥克斯，如果你還記得的話，坐在那裡說，如果他必須脫下他的超人蛋糕，並把它給某人，那將是希臘怪胎約納斯後的庫珀，因為他去的洞和對待男孩像他們是男孩。

What we're seeing from Joe L and B.

我們從Joe L和B身上看到了什麼？

Now you applaud them for it, Max, and I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it.

現在你為他們鼓掌了 Max 我也沒說他不配得上這個稱號

because I love Joe L and B.

因為我愛Joe L和B。

What I'm saying is that it also illuminates what he hasn't done.

我想說的是，這也說明了他沒有做什麼。

But he could have done it all along.

但他可以一直這樣做。

Did he gain extra pounds?

他是不是增加了額外的體重？

Did all of a sudden he acquired skills?

難道他突然就獲得了技能？

He didn't have these things that you're seeing from Joe L and B right now.

他沒有你現在看到的喬L和B的這些東西。

Our skills he had last year, skills he had the year before, skills he had the year before that and when healthy, he's still in use them.

我們的技能他去年有，前年有，前年有，健康的時候，他還在用這些技能。

So when you sit up here and you talk about Joe L and B and what he's doing, what you're missing is that the ultimate indictment against them is that he didn't learn and acquire something new.

所以，當你坐在這裡，你談論Joe L和B以及他所做的事情時，你所忽略的是，對他們的最終控訴是，他沒有學習和獲得新的東西。

Doc Rivers came to the Philadelphia 76 ers and say, Yo, what the hell are you doing?

裡弗斯醫生來到費城76人隊說："喲，你到底在幹什麼？

Get the ball and do what you're supposed You're talking What Doc said.

拿到球，做你應該做的事，你在說什麼，醫生說的。

Look, that's the difference.

看，這就是區別。

I respect because you talk about an attitude.

我尊重你，是因為你談的是一種態度。

I'm not comparing their attitude.

我不是在比較他們的態度。

I'm talking about saying, Hold on, hold on.

我說的是說，等一下，等一下。

I'm not saying that you're comparing the attitude I'm saying you must.

我不是說你在比較態度我是說你必須。

I'm saying you're omitting it and just talking about his skills.

我是說你省略了，只說他的技術。

If you have a question that's like somebody learning from Max Kellerman.

如果你有一個問題，就像有人向Max Kellerman學習一樣。

Max Kellerman.

Max Kellerman.

You're teaching them boxing.

你在教他們打拳

You're teaching them oratorical skills and what have you and you even invite them to Colombia with you?

你在教他們演講技巧，還有什麼，你甚至邀請他們和你一起去哥倫比亞？

And then they get on the air and they start mumbling like shock.

然後，他們得到的空氣，他們開始喃喃自語像震驚。

You'd have a problem with that because you know they know better, but you know, they know better.

你會有一個問題，因為你知道他們知道更好，但你知道，他們知道更好。

I understand your point, but I am just talking about skills.

我明白你的意思，但我只是在說技能。

I'm making a specific point about skills at his size.

我是針對他這個體型的技能進行具體說明。

There's never been anyone like Embiid, and in this NBA, Stephen A.

從來沒有人像恩比德這樣，在這個NBA，斯蒂芬?

The offensive skills are just half of it.

進攻技巧只是其中的一半。

He's the best defender in the league, probably this year.

他是聯盟中最好的後衛，可能是今年。

And think of how versatile you have to be defensively now, compared to back in the day as a big today, I didn't think it was possible for a back to the basket type guy, which embodied can do to be an M V p.

而且想想現在的防守要多麼的全面，相比於當年作為一個大個子的今天，我覺得一個背靠籃筐型的人是不可能的，這體現了可以做一個M V P。

But right now I think he is.

但現在我認為他是。

I saw him put him where I brought this up yesterday.

我看到他把他放在我昨天提出來的地方。

I saw him put a move on Cleveland over the weekend, a step back, mid range jump shot, and I didn't know it was and beat.

週末我看到他對克利夫蘭放了一招，一個後撤步，中距離跳投，我不知道這是和打。

At first I thought it was a guard or forward And what?

起初我以為是後衛或前鋒，然後呢？

That's Joel Embiid.

那是喬爾-恩比德。

His skills.

他的技能。

We've never seen anything like it in a in a package like this and the fact that he can apply it in the modern NBA, both ends of the floor.

我們從來沒有在這樣的包夾中看到過這樣的東西，事實上，他可以在現代NBA中應用它，兩端的地板。

All I'm saying is, we're seeing something that new, Mac.

我只是說，我們看到的是新的東西，麥克。

Fine, fine.

很好，很好。

And here's my retort today.

這是我今天的反駁。

Max Kellerman, Joe Oil and Beat is shooting 52% from the field this year.

麥克斯-凱勒曼，喬油和拍子今年的投籃命中率是52%。

Do you realize that's the first time in his career he shot better than 50% on the season?

你知道這是他職業生涯中第一次投籃命中率超過50%嗎？

Has moved inside Shaq?

已經在沙克內部動了手腳？

Shaquille O'Neal shot better than 52 or 50% from the field the 1st 17 years of his career.

沙奎爾-奧尼爾職業生涯前17年的投籃命中率都在52%或50%以上。

Yeah, 17% So but what I'm saying is knowing who you are and dominated from that perspective you got.

是的，17%所以，但我想說的是，知道自己是誰，並從你得到的那個角度來主導。

When you look at the skill, I'm saying you can applaud it.

當你看到這個技能的時候，我說你可以為它鼓掌。

I'm saying it's an indictment against me because the skills have been there.

我說這是對我的控訴，因為技術一直在那裡。

You could have been doing this for you want to beat him up over what he was 20 years.

你可以一直這樣做，因為你想打他的什麼，他是20年。

He might have been to the Finals two years ago.

兩年前，他可能已經進入了總決賽。

You wanna give me flowers for what he is now or you want to beat him up for what he was.

你是想為他現在的樣子給我送花，還是想為他以前的樣子打他。

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訂閱ESPN，加。