And Scott, first and foremost.

而斯科特，首先是。

Thank you for joining us.

謝謝你的加入。

Your reaction when you heard this news this afternoon as always, listening that you talk to Ramona.

你下午聽到這個消息時的反應一如既往，聽你跟雷蒙娜說。

The Kobe thing just is so vivid and the moments that you're hearing about something happening and then as you so well put, you know, there's these aerial pictures and now we're looking at an automobile, and, um, it's just it's just jarring.

科比的事情就是這麼生動，你聽到的事情發生的瞬間，然後就像你說的那麼好，你知道，有這些航拍照片，現在我們看到的是一輛汽車，而且，嗯，這只是它只是令人震驚。

And your first thought is, I hope he's all right and I don't mean all right.

你首先想到的是，我希望他沒事，我不是說沒事。

As in like, Not injured, it's pretty clear he's injured.

就像，沒有受傷，很明顯他受傷了。

I hope he's with us.

我希望他和我們在一起。

You know, I hope he's still alive, and immediately I'm reaching out to people in the game and, um, it Z as you know you.

你知道，我希望他還活著，我馬上就會聯繫遊戲裡的人，嗯，它Z你知道你。

You you cover this sport very well for us as well and and have a great passion for the game.

你你覆蓋這項運動很好的為我們以及和有一個偉大的激情的遊戲。

It's a small, tight knit group, Um, and it's the people that play it, and it's the caddies and the club the club reps and, um, the media that cover it, the writers and all the rest.

這是一個小的，緊密的團體，嗯，它的人，玩它，它的球童和俱樂部俱樂部代表和，嗯，媒體，覆蓋它，作家和所有其他。

It's a very small group, Um, and it's really tight.

這是一個非常小的組，嗯，它真的很緊張。

And, um so I I was just immediately reaching out to see if anyone was able to tell me anything.

而且，嗯，所以我，我只是立即聯繫，看看是否有人能夠告訴我什麼。

And pretty, uh, pretty quickly, I got back the sense that he had been pretty badly injured, but that the thought was that, um he was not hadn't suffered life threatening injuries.

而且相當，呃，相當快， 我得到了回的感覺 他已經相當嚴重的傷害， 但認為是， 嗯，他是不是沒有遭受 生命危險的傷害。

Um, that's the sense of what I got back.

嗯，這就是我回來的感覺。

And then, you know, you just, uh you just hope for the best.

然後，你知道，你只是，呃... 你只是希望最好的。

I mean, um, this is someone that and he and I have joked my entire career that he's single handedly responsible for it.

我的意思是，嗯，這是一個人，他和我開玩笑我的整個職業生涯，他是單槍匹馬的責任。

And it's not a joke.

而且這不是一個笑話。

I met him when he was a freshman at Stanford, and he became this this rock star, and, uh, I was lucky enough to be close enough to cover him and came to ESPN because I covered him.

我認識他的時候，他是斯坦福大學的大一新生，他成為了這個這個搖滾明星，而且，呃，我很幸運，可以接近他，覆蓋他，來到ESPN，因為我覆蓋了他。

And, um, over time, you get to know each other as people and he becomes a dad.

而且，嗯，隨著時間的推移，你會了解對方的人，他成為一個父親。

And, um, you know, becomes an old guy with a bald spot in the fuse back as I've talked about so many times, it becomes so much more relatable is a human, uh, than he was when he was a 20 something year old Superman.

而且，嗯，你知道，成為一個老傢伙 與一個禿頭的斑點 在導火線回 我已經談到了這麼多次， 它變得如此之多 更可親的是一個人，呃，比他是 當他是一個20多歲的超人。

And was this this superhero version of off of us?

而這是這個超級英雄版的關我們嗎？

And so it's, um it's just it's odd.

所以它的，嗯，它只是它的怪異。

You know, Matt, when when you you feel so you know, personally connected this story because you just want so badly for this person you know to be okay.

你知道嗎，馬特，當你... ...當你感覺到... ...你知道的，個人連接這個故事... ...因為你只是太想讓這個人，你知道是好的。

I don't give a damn about the golf, you know, It couldn't matter less.

我才不管什麼高爾夫呢，你知道的，這不重要。

He gave.

他給。

He gave us more than just about any other athlete we've seen and our life's in terms of the moments that move you and make you feel.

他給了我們更多的比我們所見過的任何其他運動員和我們的生活的方面的時刻，讓你感動，讓你覺得。

And so at this moment, I don't find myself, uh, at all concerned about Augusta or anything else.

所以此時此刻，我覺得自己根本不關心奧古斯塔或者其他的事情。

I just think for him and for his Children, I hope he's all right, man.

我只是為他和他的孩子著想，希望他沒事，夥計。

That's that's really it.

就是這樣，就是這樣。

Yeah.

是啊。

And Scott, I think the point that you bring up for not only those of us who love the sport cover the sport, and it have long admired Tiger Woods of what he's been able to do with within the confines of the ropes.

和斯科特，我認為你帶來的點，不僅是我們這些誰愛這項運動覆蓋的運動，它有長期欽佩老虎伍茲的什麼，他已經能夠做到與繩索的限制內。

of a golf tournament.

的高爾夫比賽。

You could look at Tiger's career.

你可以看看老虎的職業生涯。

Maybe in three phases, tiger.

也許分三個階段，虎。

One point.

有一點。

Oh, the Phanom tiger two point.

呵呵，魅族虎二點。

Oh, the dominant golfer, Tiger.

哦，霸氣的高爾夫球手，老虎。

Three point.

三點。

Oh, after the scandal in the injuries to get back to the point where he wins the Masters in 2019.

哦，在傷病的醜聞之後，要回到2019年他贏得大師賽的地步。

As you've seen him, Scott developed as a person.

正如你所看到的那樣，斯科特發展成了一個人。

How has he changed in your eyes?

在你眼中，他有什麼變化？

From who we saw early 90 or late nineties?

從誰那裡我們看到了90年代初或90年代末？

Early two, thousands to who we've been accustomed to over the last few years?

初二，數千人對誰我們在過去的幾年裡已經習慣了？

Well, he, uh he had that look for so long, uh, that it was somewhat Zen, and it was somewhat boxer getting in the ducking under the ropes to get in the ring.

嗯，他，呃... ...他有這樣的表情這麼久了，呃，這有點像禪宗，它有點像拳擊手得到的... ...躲在繩索下進入環。

This that almost zombie like state that he didn't let a soul in.

這種近乎殭屍的狀態，他沒有讓一個人進來。

Um, and it was a means to an end, and it worked.

嗯，它是一種手段，它的工作。

I mean, he was devastating out there.

我的意思是，他是毀滅性的在那裡。

Um, but then after, uh, after the mess that he largely made of his own personal life and and then a comeback, there was there was a bit mawr of an access that he gave to people outside.

嗯，但之後，嗯，之後的混亂 他主要是做了他自己的個人生活 然後復出，有 是有一個有點Mawr的訪問 他給了外面的人。

He solicited that he, um and I remember telling him, You know it, It feels good to let people hug you.

他要求他，嗯... ...我記得告訴他，你知道的，讓別人擁抱你感覺很好。

You just gotta let him.

你只需要讓他。

And I met his peers and the people outside the ropes that adored him and what you saw him at in 19 when he won and he walked to the same spot where he hugged his father.

我見到了他的同齡人和繩索外的人，他們都很崇拜他，還有你在19年看到的他，當他贏了的時候，他走到同一個地方，在那裡他擁抱了他的父親。

And then he hugged his son and his daughter, um, and and the sound that the patrons made.

然後他抱著兒子和女兒，嗯，還有顧客發出的聲音。

I'll never forget it.

我永遠不會忘記。

Like Thio here, that golf tournament sound like LSU on a night games that, like Tiger Stadium there chanting, Tiger, Tiger, Tiger!

就像Thio在這裡，那高爾夫比賽的聲音就像LSU在晚上的比賽一樣，就像老虎體育場那裡的高呼，老虎，老虎，老虎!

And you saw his peers come line up just just to shake his hand and to see him connect to those people as he walked.

你看到他的同齡人來排隊，只是為了和他握手，看到他走的時候和這些人交流。

Um, it felt different.

嗯，感覺不一樣。

It felt like he understood that that they meant maybe more to him than he knew, and that he understood what he meant to them and that in that moment of connecting in a different way as a human, you know, as a dad, as a as a part up flawed version of us, in a way, right?

這感覺就像他明白 他們對他的意義也許比他自己知道的更多 他明白自己對他們的意義 在那一刻以一種不同的方式連接起來 作為一個人，你知道，作為一個父親，作為一個作為一個有缺陷的版本的我們，在某種程度上，對嗎？

Uh, back in that place, we never maybe thought we'd see him again.

呃，在那個地方，我們從來沒有也許認為我們會再次見到他。

I think that's how he changed.

我想他就是這樣改變的。

I think he he let he let his fans love him and acknowledged that it meant something to him.

我想他他讓他讓他的粉絲愛他，並承認這對他有意義。

Um, and And at that moment, helped frame it.

嗯，而在那一刻，幫助框架它。

All he really needed was Sam and Charlie.

他真正需要的是山姆和查理。

His kids, that's all he needed.

他的孩子，那是他所需要的。

But having those people, they're Thio to provide the soundtrack.

但有這些人，他們是Thio來提供背景音樂的。

You know, for that moment, I know what it meant to him.

你知道，那一刻，我知道這對他意味著什麼。

I mean, because he's expressed it to me.

我的意思是，因為他已經向我表達過了。

I know what it meant.

我知道那是什麼意思。

And there were a lot of times met that I think he took that for granted and couldn't have given a crap.

而且有很多時候遇到了，我覺得他認為那是理所當然的，不可能有什麼廢話。

Um, it just it was an inconvenience.

嗯，它只是它是一個不便。

It got to be so out of hand, you know, Whereas then it was, you know, when When when those roars died down, I think I think I know it meant something for him to hear him again.

它得到了如此失控，你知道的， 而當時它是，你知道，當 噹噹那些咆哮聲消失了， 我想我知道這意味著什麼 他再次聽到他。